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This is an interesting twist to the whole Iranian situation. According to this report we may not need to jump the gun on military action. Even with the Iranians fighting a proxy war in Iraq with the US. Your thoughts?

This is an interesting twist to the whole Iranian situation. According to this report we may not need to jump the gun on military action. Even with the Iranians fighting a proxy war in Iraq with the US. Your thoughts?

Bullshit! We need to get in there and get that Oil before it all disappears! Times a wasting Mr. President! ;)

This is an interesting twist to the whole Iranian situation. According to this report we may not need to jump the gun on military action. Even with the Iranians fighting a proxy war in Iraq with the US. Your thoughts?
Why the hell would you be invading anyway?

Chrissakes...

Well thats why the want nuclear power. If their oil is gone, how else will they be able to operate their nation?

Well, that's to be expected. Iran's economy is on the brink of collapse because it is so inefficient and mismanaged that it can't even keep up oil production, nor can it attract the investment to maintain it or diversify it's economy away from oil. It's technologically backward and unable to compete in anything but oil...and that's not going to last long if the clerics remain in power.

It's also an unwise policy to subsidize gasoline, especially since it has a habit of making your entire population dependent on cars that get about 12 miles per gallon...in 2006. Ironically, Iran's gasoline subisidies cost it so much that it has to export oil in order to buy higher-cost gasoline and when the money runs out they have to ration it.

They're going down soon, and hard. Massive unemployment, poverty, inflation, and inequality are all going to bite the "Islamic republic" pretty damn soon.

*hides*

Let me know when it happens so I can move to the Moon or Mars.

This is an interesting twist to the whole Iranian situation. According to this report we may not need to jump the gun on military action. Even with the Iranians fighting a proxy war in Iraq with the US. Your thoughts?
umm..what report?


In other news, Iran's just moved over to using the Euro instead of the greenback for all it's international finances. Wonder how that's going to affect US policy towards Iran.

If its true then I retract any anti iranian statements I may have made in the past. Would make alot of sense though....

Oh and can we have a link to the report please?

In other news, Iran's just moved over to using the Euro instead of the greenback for all it's international finances. Wonder how that's going to affect US policy towards Iran.

I hope it does nothing, because when Iran starts to go down economically it will have to spend their foreign exchange to cover their costs, putting Euros in to the world market and depressing that currency's value. It'll hurt the Euro in the long run if nations that stand to lose a lot of money start stocking up on the currency to fund their current account.

Does that mean that now is the time for Iran to invest in developing nuclear energy?

Iran's got huge gas reserves, 2nd largest after Russia, IIRC.

Vetalia is right though, the frickin mullahs have totally ruined any chances of economic competitiveness in Iran. Due to the youth bulge, the regime is going to get more bellicose to divert attention from their non-performance.

Well, that's to be expected. Iran's economy is on the brink of collapse because it is so inefficient and mismanaged that it can't even keep up oil production, nor can it attract the investment to maintain it or diversify it's economy away from oil. It's technologically backward and unable to compete in anything but oil...and that's not going to last long if the clerics remain in power.

It's also an unwise policy to subsidize gasoline, especially since it has a habit of making your entire population dependent on cars that get about 12 miles per gallon...in 2006. Ironically, Iran's gasoline subisidies cost it so much that it has to export oil in order to buy higher-cost gasoline and when the money runs out they have to ration it.

They're going down soon, and hard. Massive unemployment, poverty, inflation, and inequality are all going to bite the "Islamic republic" pretty damn soon.

So you're hoping they'll achieve nuclear fission power generation, then?

So you're hoping they'll achieve nuclear fission power generation, then?

If it means saving their economy and sparing the people the hardship of an economic collapse, then yes. Plus, it would help destabilize the clerics by allowing the country to survive without state-controlled oil reserves.

If it means saving their economy and sparing the people the hardship of an economic collapse, then yes. Plus, it would help destabilize the clerics by allowing the country to survive without state-controlled oil reserves.
Thank you. I've been trying to convince many people of this very point but all they think is "Nuclear power=nukes=Evil Islam more powerful than ever=nuked U.S.A." :rolleyes:

What report? I dont see any report here.

umm..what report?

Try this one:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/25/iran.oil.ap/


In other news, Iran's just moved over to using the Euro instead of the greenback for all it's international finances. Wonder how that's going to affect US policy towards Iran.

Well I don't know, what was the last middle eastern country to do that?

Oh that's right : Iraq
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/30/iraq.un.euro.reut/

This is an interesting twist to the whole Iranian situation. According to this report we may not need to jump the gun on military action. Even with the Iranians fighting a proxy war in Iraq with the US. Your thoughts?

It was reported in 2005 that most fighters in Iraq were Iraqi's with
about 10% (or 3,000) of the total being from other countries
with a breakdown roughly as follows
Algerians (20 percent), Syrians (18 percent), Yemenis (17 percent), Sudanese (15 percent) and Egyptians (13 percent)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602519.html

In this article published in November 2005
Maj. Gen Rick Lynch, speaking of October 2005 said at a news conference that 376 foreigners had been detained in Iraq this year, including 78 Egyptians, 66 Syrians, 41 Sudanese and 32 Saudis. One American and one Briton also were captured.

These Iranians are darned good at this proxy stuff, heck they make it
look like the British or even the Americans are more likely to be involved
in the resistance than themselves. What damnably clever and devious
people they are while at the same time of course being completely rubbish
at managing things.


Despite this they even have the military in Iraq fooled sheesh
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031401083.html

Try this one:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/25/iran.oil.ap/



Well I don't know, what was the last middle eastern country to do that?

Oh that's right : Iraq
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/30/iraq.un.euro.reut/



It was reported in 2005 that most fighters in Iraq were Iraqi's with
about 10% (or 3,000) of the total being from other countries
with a breakdown roughly as follows
Algerians (20 percent), Syrians (18 percent), Yemenis (17 percent), Sudanese (15 percent) and Egyptians (13 percent)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602519.html

In this article published in November 2005
Maj. Gen Rick Lynch, speaking of October 2005 said at a news conference that 376 foreigners had been detained in Iraq this year, including 78 Egyptians, 66 Syrians, 41 Sudanese and 32 Saudis. One American and one Briton also were captured.

These Iranians are darned good at this proxy stuff, heck they make it
look like the British or even the Americans are more likely to be involved
in the resistance than themselves. What damnably clever and devious
people they are while at the same time of course being completely rubbish
at managing things.


Despite this they even have the military in Iraq fooled sheesh
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031401083.html

You're using stories more than a year old to back your comments up? And anything by Rummy is automatically disqualified as he was basically fired by the country for being so damned stupid. I am not arguing that those things aren't correct, simply that they aren't likely to be accepted by the linknazi's in here...

You're using stories more than a year old to back your comments up? And anything by Rummy is automatically disqualified as he was basically fired by the country for being so damned stupid. I am not arguing that those things aren't correct, simply that they aren't likely to be accepted by the linknazi's in here...

They'll be accepted alright. They are from CNN and the Washington Post. Just because Rummy is in them does not invalidate the post.

They'll be accepted alright. They are from CNN and the Washington Post. Just because Rummy is in them does not invalidate the post.

and they are a year old. A lot could have changed in the past year, And Rummy's comments seem to have been invalidated by his being fired...When you run an entire article based on an interview with him, I would say its weak. Why the heck am I even pointing this out? I HATE posting linkage.:D

I heard a comment once that Iraq was to Muslim youth as Woodstock was to the hippies. You HAD to be there :D

I dunno. 2015 seems a little soon. Weren't some people saying the whole world would be running nigh dry by the mid-90's? I know there ain't an infinite supply but we don't know where all of what we have is and we're still finding new wells, albeit not at quite the same rate as others are depleted.

I don't trust the current administration in Iran enough to allow them the power of nuclear reactions. Not with the Persian prez denying the holocaust while scheming his own.