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Hardest videogame ever?

Zexaland
26-12-2006, 03:42
See thread title.

What is the hardest videogame (including PC and browser based games) ever?

Go ahead, say "NetHack" five thousand times. You know you want to.
Andaluciae
26-12-2006, 03:43
Metroid.
Colodia
26-12-2006, 03:43
Does trying to win a debate on NS count?
Saxnot
26-12-2006, 03:44
Contra: Hard Corps is about the hardest one I've played, myself.
Greater Valia
26-12-2006, 03:46
Battletoads.
Geppeto
26-12-2006, 03:47
The game in which you win by not thinking about the game :p
Kanabia
26-12-2006, 03:47
Go ahead, say "NetHack" five thousand times. You know you want to.

I find Dungeon Crawl and ADOM both a lot harder than Nethack.
Greater Valia
26-12-2006, 03:48
The game in which you win by not thinking about the game :p

FUCK! You just made me lose!
Kanabia
26-12-2006, 03:48
The game in which you win by not thinking about the game :p

Bastard. I just lost. :( :p
Intestinal fluids
26-12-2006, 03:51
World of Warcraft. Prolly less then 5% of the people that play it have the ability to get near or at the "end" of the current releases.
Nevered
26-12-2006, 03:52
I find Dungeon Crawl and ADOM both a lot harder than Nethack.

farthest in ADOM i've ever gotten was a few floors past the arena. I found the SI, and was on my way back to dwarftown to sell it when i triggered an explosive door trap and was slaughtered by an ice vortex. :headbang:

I usually play as gray or high elven archers.

what about you?
Neo-Erusea
26-12-2006, 03:52
Hardest game?

Tetris. I just can't win
Geppeto
26-12-2006, 03:54
FUCK! You just made me lose!

Bastard. I just lost. :( :p


My job here is done. -puts on sunglasses and jacket, hops on his Harley, and rides into sunset-
Nevered
26-12-2006, 03:54
World of Warcraft. Prolly less then 5% of the people that play it have the ability to get near or at the "end" of the current releases.

I tried the 12 day free trial, and got bored with it quickly.

the first few levels were interesting, and then it just turned into a squishie grind.

after that, I did what I normally do in MMORPG's: try to get as far as I can into a zone that is much too high for me to be in and/or try to fall off the edge of the map.
Wilgrove
26-12-2006, 03:55
That game with the mines.
Kyronea
26-12-2006, 03:55
Life.
Yootopia
26-12-2006, 03:57
Dogs of War. A true bitch of a game, complete with Craig Charles.
Geppeto
26-12-2006, 03:59
Life.

QFT
Kanabia
26-12-2006, 04:04
farthest in ADOM i've ever gotten was a few floors past the arena. I found the SI, and was on my way back to dwarftown to sell it when i triggered an explosive door trap and was slaughtered by an ice vortex. :headbang:

I usually play as gray or high elven archers.

what about you?

I generally choose wizard, and most of the time orc or human. The orc wizard combo is generally an easy mix of magic ability and melee prowess (a couple of rerolls might be necessary), and later in the game you can usually increase your stats to the point where you can remain at least competent at both. Once you get to the arena and have access to all of the cheap fast food, walking around with your burden level as "Strained!" is an effective way to train your strength up - you have the weapon skill handicap that wizards get, though, and neglecting your magic spells can make them a bit useless later...but in the early game, you'll do pretty well. I've also had fun with elven bards for the same reason.

Oh, and keep the SI. ;)

I've gotten a fair ways past that, but I haven't won it...yet...
Shotagon
26-12-2006, 04:16
Battletoads.That game is totally impossible.
Teh_pantless_hero
26-12-2006, 04:23
Battletoads.

Second.
Zexaland
26-12-2006, 04:24
Life.

Not a videogame, man.
Nevered
26-12-2006, 04:24
I generally choose wizard, and most of the time orc or human. The orc wizard combo is generally an easy mix of magic ability and melee prowess (a couple of rerolls might be necessary), and later in the game you can usually increase your stats to the point where you can remain at least competent at both. Once you get to the arena and have access to all of the cheap fast food, walking around with your burden level as "Strained!" is an effective way to train your strength up - you have the weapon skill handicap that wizards get, though, and neglecting your magic spells can make them a bit useless later...but in the early game, you'll do pretty well. I've also had fun with elven bards for the same reason.

Oh, and keep the SI. ;)

I've gotten a fair ways past that, but I haven't won it...yet...

when you create characters, do you take random stats, or do you do the questionnaire?

Somewhere, I found a FAQ that lists all of the possible questions and what effects it has on your stats.

anyway, aside from the archers (which I'm usually most successful with), sometimes I also like playing as druids (it makes the puppy quest at the beginning possible to do in the four day time limit because you can walk right past the ants with no problem) and also as a troll beastfighter (it's hilarious: just walk around with nothing but some furs beating the snot out of everything you come across.)
Kisyla
26-12-2006, 04:24
Notpr0n.
Arthais101
26-12-2006, 04:27
what game are you all talking about?
A-pluses
26-12-2006, 04:28
Not a videogame, man.

It can be if you want it to... *Takes out M24* :sniper:
Nevered
26-12-2006, 04:33
what game are you all talking about?

they are talking about battletoads:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battletoads


we are talking about ADOM:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adom
http://www.adom.de/adom/download.php3
Kanabia
26-12-2006, 04:40
when you create characters, do you take random stats, or do you do the questionnaire?

Somewhere, I found a FAQ that lists all of the possible questions and what effects it has on your stats.

I take the questionnaire. I've read that FAQ, but for the most part, the effects of your answers are fairly easy to discern.

anyway, aside from the archers (which I'm usually most successful with), sometimes I also like playing as druids (it makes the puppy quest at the beginning possible to do in the four day time limit because you can walk right past the ants with no problem) and also as a troll beastfighter (it's hilarious: just walk around with nothing but some furs beating the snot out of everything you come across.)

I've never actually tried a druid, I don't think.

Trolls can be fun. The "cheat" class is a Troll healer, born in the month of the candle. Trolls already regenerate faster, troll healers even more so, and the month of the candle gives you a further bonus. You're almost unstoppable at the early stages of the game. :p
Arthais101
26-12-2006, 04:43
this RPG seems interesting...
Cannot think of a name
26-12-2006, 04:47
Hardest game?

Tetris. I just can't win

I'm about to go all old cogger, sitting on my porch with my quarters lined up on the railing to mark my spot in line...

That's it-the games from the golden age, the heyday of the arcade-those are the hardest games. You know why, you spoiled little whipper snappers with your home computers and sound cards and expansion sets and whatnot? Because there wasn't any "ending" to those games, there wasn't any "winning"-just delaying of the innevitable crushing death that would just keep pressing down on you until you couldn't take it anymore or you mom had to pick you up. You where never going to Defend(er) those people, you wheren't going to stop the Space Invasion, the Centipede was going to take the garden (whoever thought that a tiny laser firing ship was going to be better than pesticied was way off), and the only Missle Command that was going to be followed was destroy your cities. You're only input was how long it took.

You just kept doing the same futile task over and over again against worsening and worsening odds and if you approached anything close to success your reward was to do it again. To get that treatment the Greeks had to piss off a god, we paid our allowances for it in quarters.

Kids these days with their pansy ass 'endings' to video games...get offa my lawn!
Kanabia
26-12-2006, 04:48
this RPG seems interesting...

The download link is above...If you can get past the graphics and a bit of a learning curve, you'll find that it more than makes up for that in gameplay. :)
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Bodies Without Organs
26-12-2006, 04:57
Trolls can be fun. The "cheat" class is a Troll healer, born in the month of the candle. Trolls already regenerate faster, troll healers even more so, and the month of the candle gives you a further bonus. You're almost unstoppable at the early stages of the game. :p

Nooooo! Orc candle-born healer - you don't get hit as hard with xp requirements to level up, and are almost as tough as a troll (without needing to keep eating every few hundred turns).

A level 50 candle born orcish healer smacking balors in melee combat on D:50 is a wonderful sight to behold (although my orcish monk and thief were the most surprisingly effective down there...).

ADOM may very well be hard, but it is for the most part fair: provided you don't get ambushed by two jackelwere's as soon as you leave Terinyo there is a fine chance that given sensible and careful play you will be able to get far enough for your own stupidity, overconfidence or lack of knowledge of the game to beat you rather than a whim of the RNG.
Congo--Kinshasa
26-12-2006, 05:26
That I've played?

Probably Ghosts and Goblins for NES.
Bodies Without Organs
26-12-2006, 05:29
Game called SQIJ for the ZX Spectrum.

You need to manually hack the program before it responds to any of the key commands.

Amazing that it actually got a professional commercial release, althoug given the state of the videogame industry in the early '80's perhaps not as surprising as it should be.
Kyronea
26-12-2006, 05:38
Not a videogame, man.

Oh, it is most certainly a game. It has the most realistic graphics possible. It provides full immersion in a way no other game can. It controls so much more completely than any other control scheme every concived. You can do literally anything you can think of, rather than being limited. You can make your own story, set your own pace, be your own person, with no bonds to tie you down. It's just one where you can't save your game, and there is no reset button to save you if you lose.
The New Tundran Empire
26-12-2006, 05:40
E.T. the game...I JUST CANT GET OUT OF THAT DAMN PIT...that game blows so much ass
The New Tundran Empire
26-12-2006, 05:43
Or maybe Superman 64...that game is soooooooo hard:headbang:
Megaloria
26-12-2006, 06:05
Mega Man 1. THOSE FUCKING PLATFORMS.
White Separatists
26-12-2006, 06:58
I;d have to say that the arcade classic DEFENDER is among the hardest video games ever.
yet there are people who are masters at it.

Also 'Ghouls and Ghosts' is ridiculously hard, but the above comment still applies.
White Separatists
26-12-2006, 07:03
Probably Ghosts and Goblins for NES.

ahhh Ghouls and Ghosts is the sequel tho that title. Both were arcade games before console games.

Ghosts and Goblins is probably even harder than Ghouls and Ghosts, lots more unfair deaths and no-chance type scenarios. It amazing anyone could complete it. Still very fun though.
Lesser Twilight
26-12-2006, 07:07
Not a videogame, man.

Are you sure? I was pretty certain.... damnit you're right...
Now what do I do with my life?

My vote goes to... The second LoZ game was annoying as hell so I'll throw that.
Pompous world
26-12-2006, 17:20
I remember gradius on the nes being shit hard
Wallonochia
26-12-2006, 17:27
That game is totally impossible.

It's the damned jetbike levels that make it impossible.
The Vuhifellian States
26-12-2006, 17:39
The games that don't have an ending *Shakes fist at all MMORPGs*
Snafturi
26-12-2006, 20:00
That I've played?

Probably Ghosts and Goblins for NES.

Thank you for mentioning that, I couldn't remeber the name. Alter Beast was pretty hard too. As was Friday the 13th. (All NES games).
Desperate Measures
26-12-2006, 22:05
I remember Squoon being pretty difficult. Superman Returns was maybe the hardest game I ever played through for the PS2 but not because of the difficulty level but because of how much it made me cry and worry about where I had come to in life.

Edit: OH! And what was that NES game where you are a little fucking wizard and had to look around for keys and got speed boots and magic spells and made little kids everywhere turn to hard drinking? That was hard.
Khiraebana
26-12-2006, 22:14
Battletoads.

Completely true. I'd always play with someone else and we'd just kill eachother because we both wanted that damn stick. It was such a cruel cycle!
Vimeria III
26-12-2006, 22:20
Definitely Battletoads. Me and a friend of mine loved that game when we were kids, and we must have played it hundreds of times on NES. And we never ever got past level 3.

Recently another friend of mine claimed he once completed it on NES. My comment was "I'll believe it when I see it".
Portu Cale MK3
26-12-2006, 22:31
homeworld2... :>
Northern Borders
26-12-2006, 22:53
Oh yeah, damn those old NES and Genesis games. Those were hard. Battletoads was the hardest of all.

In the PC, I had a hard time playing Commandos I. I had a pirate version of it, and couldnt save. Which meant every mistake made me play it all over again.

In the past few years, Soldiers: Heroes of World War II. Sometimes you have to stop an entire army with three soldiers.
JuNii
26-12-2006, 23:09
hardest game?

Space Invaders... you not only have to fight the aliens, but Boredom as well.

others would be...
D2 once you got the rifle to do some hunting, the rest of the game became meaningless.

No One Lives Forever. (PS2) Impossible. one mission, you're required to pick up a coin and use that to distract the guards... only in the PS2 version, the COIN IS MISSING!!!
Rejistania
26-12-2006, 23:15
See thread title.

What is the hardest videogame (including PC and browser based games) ever?

Go ahead, say "NetHack" five thousand times. You know you want to.
nethack! And the 'adventure' with the most points...
Nodinia
26-12-2006, 23:16
I'm about to go all old cogger, sitting on my porch with my quarters lined up on the railing to mark my spot in line...

That's it-the games from the golden age, the heyday of the arcade-those are the hardest games. You know why, you spoiled little whipper snappers with your home computers and sound cards and expansion sets and whatnot? Because there wasn't any "ending" to those games, there wasn't any "winning"-just delaying of the innevitable crushing death that would just keep pressing down on you until you couldn't take it anymore or you mom had to pick you up. You where never going to Defend(er) those people, you wheren't going to stop the Space Invasion, the Centipede was going to take the garden (whoever thought that a tiny laser firing ship was going to be better than pesticied was way off), and the only Missle Command that was going to be followed was destroy your cities. You're only input was how long it took.

You just kept doing the same futile task over and over again against worsening and worsening odds and if you approached anything close to success your reward was to do it again. To get that treatment the Greeks had to piss off a god, we paid our allowances for it in quarters.

Kids these days with their pansy ass 'endings' to video games...get offa my lawn!


I remember "Paperboy" when it was state of the art graphics...and 20p a go too....
Arizona Nova
27-12-2006, 00:01
Nationstates.
Imperial isa
27-12-2006, 00:04
for me on my XBOX Myst 3 Exile
Secluded Islands
27-12-2006, 00:06
Battletoads.

oh......my.........god! i broke my controllers because of that freakin game. it still pisses me off thinking about it...
Secluded Islands
27-12-2006, 00:08
It's the damned jetbike levels that make it impossible.

yes. i never beat them...
Ibramia
27-12-2006, 00:10
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

It was actually designed to cheat you out and be almost completely unbeatable.
Grape-eaters
27-12-2006, 00:12
THe most difficult game I have ever played was the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy text adventure game. Not quite a video game I suppose...

THe hardest "Videogame" I have ever played...well...I really couldn't tell you. I think I must have subconciously repressed all my memories of whatever game it was because I sucked so hard at it.
CthulhuFhtagn
27-12-2006, 00:58
There's this one game on Freecell, I forget the number, that is literally unwinnable.

Aside from that, Nethack. I fucking hate Yeenhogu.
Gataway_Driver
27-12-2006, 01:11
Life
Lacadaemon
27-12-2006, 02:00
Wizardore. If they tried that bullshit today there would be lawsuits.
Rejistania
27-12-2006, 02:05
There's this one game on Freecell, I forget the number, that is literally unwinnable.

-1?
Yootopia
27-12-2006, 02:32
homeworld2... :>
I thought that was pretty easy myself...



Oh and just thought of another tricky game:

X-COM : Terror From The Deep.

Unless you play it on 'easy', it's a true bitch of a game.
Mogtaria
27-12-2006, 02:38
Jet Set Willy II on the Spectrum 128.

Infinite lives poke anyone?
Irceris
27-12-2006, 02:48
Hardest game?

Tetris. I just can't win
You beat me to it, the thing about the game that you win by not thinking about it had me thinking along the lines of impossible (hence tetris) and then I see this...Great minds think alike.
Zexaland
27-12-2006, 10:31
Oh and just thought of another tricky game:

X-COM : Terror From The Deep.

Unless you play it on 'easy', it's a true bitch of a game.

What made it so difficult?
Dobbsworld
27-12-2006, 10:37
Does trying to win a debate on NS count?

I laughed.
Rainbowwws
27-12-2006, 12:22
That game with the mines.

Land mines. I remember that game would always freeze the computers of the early 90s.
PedroTheDonkey
27-12-2006, 14:08
Pong.





Someone had to say it.