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Ok, so Tim Naveau and his son both suffer from allergies, for which they take Claritin-D. Unfortunately, Claritin-D has a precursor to meth in it so we need to be protected from this new Scourge by limiting access. No problems, right, we all have to make sacrifices and I'm sure sick people will still be able to get medicine...right?

Tim takes one 24-hour Claritin-D tablet just about every day. That puts him just under the legal limit of 75-hundred milligrams of pseudo ephedrine a month. The limit is part of a new law that Quad Cities authorities are beginning to strictly enforce.

The law limits the amount of pseudo ephedrine you can buy. Pseudo ephedrine is an ingredient in medicines like Sudafed and Claritin-D, and it's also a key ingredient in methamphetamines.

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The only problem is, Tim has a teenaged son who also suffers from allergies. And minors are not allowed to buy pseudo ephedrine.

"I bought some for my boy because he was going away to church camp and he needed it," he said.

That decision put Tim over the legal limit. Two months later, there was a warrant for his arrest.

Source: http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=5477392&nav=menu132_5

Ok, we get it. Drugs are bad, meth is the devil, America needs to respond, blah blah blah. Just tell me everything got sorted out...

Rene Sandoval, Director of the Quad Cities Metropolitan Enforcement Agency -- the agency that enforces the law -- says it's meant to catch meth makers, and does.

"We've seen a huge decline in methamphetamine labs," Sandoval said.

But even if you're not making meth, if you go over that limit -- of one maximum strength pill per day -- you will be arrested.

"Does it take drastic measures? Absolutely. Have we seen a positive result? Absolutely," Sandoval stressed.

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Sandoval says the law applies to everybody. So everybody needs to keep track of how much pseudo ephedrine is in the medicine they're buying.

Source: http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=5477392&nav=menu132_5

Well...fuck.

Ok, so Tim Naveau and his son both suffer from allergies, for which they take Claritin-D. Unfortunately, Claritin-D has a precursor to meth in it so we need to be protected from this new Scourge by limiting access. No problems, right, we all have to make sacrifices and I'm sure sick people will still be able to get medicine...right?



Ok, we get it. Drugs are bad, meth is the devil, America needs to respond, blah blah blah. Just tell me everything got sorted out...



Well...fuck.


:rolleyes: They're doing it here in North Carolina. It's beyond retarded.

Hmmm.... I only buy pseudoephedrin occasionally, I wonder if I can sell the rest of my quota to an entrepreneur.

Wow, now there's a black market. Congratulations. Just wait, soon I'll be buying the max amount I can and selling it to "Families with allergies in multiple family members". Well, I hope that's what they are. Yay for a tidy profit for doing sweet fanny adams.

You know what the worst part of it is? That stuff only works for so long before you start needing more and more to achieve the same affect. Crappy shit, really.

It's all big brother here in Oklahoma, I think we were one of the first with this type of law.

I was denied allergy meds twice last spring because it showed in the data base that I had already bought what they thought was "enough". :rolleyes:

I can take about 3 doses of an allergy med and then I have to switch brands because it quits working, so I guess that's suspicious.

these laws are SO stupid. i suppose its OK to put everyone on a meth registry but ffs some people NEED these drugs. sometimes everyone IN a family needs them.

cant they just consider having a stuff nose a red flag rather than a freaking crime?

Can't people get their doctors to write them a prescription, or is all Claritin now over the counter? If you're under a doctor's care and s/he prescribes it, are you still considered to be breaking the law?

Ridiculous.


Clearly his allergy is just a front for an on-going drug addiction, and now he's trying to rope his son into it as an excuse?

Lock him up and throw away the key!

Talk about Lawful Neutral.

<----- Spent last night playing D&D.

can you get high on pseudo-Ephedrine as is? or does it need to be turned into meth.

Talk about Lawful Neutral.

<----- Spent last night playing D&D.

I'd say Lawful Neutral Evil (Acheron for those that know the Manual of the Planes).

As Smunkee says, Oklahoma has that idiot law too. I just have my non-allergic roomies buy some for me.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I stayed up for a whole week on the stuff to finish my GCSE Graphics coursework.

It doesn't get you high, it keeps you awake. Plus I did have a blocked nose due to hayfever, which was horrible.

these laws are SO stupid. i suppose its OK to put everyone on a meth registry but ffs some people NEED these drugs. sometimes everyone IN a family needs them.

cant they just consider having a stuff nose a red flag rather than a freaking crime?

I'd make an argument about a slippery slope but it seems we're already at the bottom.

Really, lets be honest, these laws are just feel-good public order garbage. Trade a little bit of liberty for a little illusion of security. At best these laws might shot down the smallest of the small meth labs (provided, you know, that people knowingly manufacturing illegal drugs won't get their ingrediants from an illegal source). Thing is, meth still comes into the country, but instead of Jed cooking it up in his trailer you have it being imported from Mexico with all the fun that big time organized cartels bring to the table. In the mean time you harass average citizens who happen to have had the bad luck of developing an allergy.

Seriously, people, next year Christmas we need to dispense with the pretty lights and hang politicians from trees...

Can't people get their doctors to write them a prescription, or is all Claritin now over the counter? If you're under a doctor's care and s/he prescribes it, are you still considered to be breaking the law?

Yeah, probably not. And if you can that'll get cracked down on soon enough. Just take a gander at how doctors who specialize in pain management have been doing lately.

this is so goofy. I understand the whole meth thing, but it's still easy to get in mexico, and so they just buy it there and bring it here. So people with allergies get screwed.

Can't people get their doctors to write them a prescription, or is all Claritin now over the counter? If you're under a doctor's care and s/he prescribes it, are you still considered to be breaking the law?

It's all over the counter, now, to my knowledge. I haven't seen any in prescription bottles in years.

There's a drug store around here that still sells ephedrine, it's kinda funny because they have a 'Meth Watch' sign up in the front window.

Ephedrine is soo much better then caffeine for fighting off sleepiness. Although, the needing to pee every 20 minutes does keep you up...

Ok, so Tim Naveau and his son both suffer from allergies, for which they take Claritin-D. Unfortunately, Claritin-D has a precursor to meth in it so we need to be protected from this new Scourge by limiting access. No problems, right, we all have to make sacrifices and I'm sure sick people will still be able to get medicine...right?



Ok, we get it. Drugs are bad, meth is the devil, America needs to respond, blah blah blah. Just tell me everything got sorted out...



Well...fuck.

This goes to prove two longstanding theories I've held.

1) Conservatives are all retarded and evil.

2) Drugs should be legal.

This goes to prove two longstanding theories I've held.

1) Conservatives are all retarded and evil.

2) Drugs should be legal.

Switch conservatives with politicians and we might be able to agree. Theres more than enough blame to go on both sides of the table as far as the drug debate goes. Take a good look at most mainstream politicians and you'll find that craven, populist appeals to fight the war on drugs are nearly universal.

:headbang:

Hey a contact section... Is it illegal to call the attorney general an idiot over the internet?

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/methnet/contact.html