NationStates Jolt Archive


Anarchy for the world

Curtinstan
24-12-2006, 09:05
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.
MrMopar
24-12-2006, 09:06
I disagree. Also, hurr first post.
The PeoplesFreedom
24-12-2006, 09:06
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.

If you say so...

I'm sure someone else will explain the flaws, I however, am too tired.
Ginnoria
24-12-2006, 09:09
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.

I dissagree. I think the world just needs one government that would oppress everyone.
Tech-gnosis
24-12-2006, 09:20
I dissagree. I think the world just needs one government that would oppress everyone.

I think everyone should oppress everyone else. :D
Ginnoria
24-12-2006, 09:21
I think everyone should oppress everyone else. :D

That lacks the awesomeness of police squads with tear gas rounding up civilians for no reason.
Markreich
24-12-2006, 14:39
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.

Move to Iraq for two years and then come back. If you're still holding that POV, I'll listen.
[NS]Trilby63
24-12-2006, 14:41
But Iraq has a government. It's just not doing a good job.
Markreich
24-12-2006, 14:45
Trilby63;12128849']But Iraq has a government. It's just not doing a good job.

It's the closest thing to anarchy around though.
[NS]Trilby63
24-12-2006, 15:06
It's the closest thing to anarchy around though.

No, it's the closest thing to a chaotic break down of law and order.

Despite what your opinion is on the feasibility of an anarchist society, anarchy is not the absence of order, merely the absence of authority. Iraq has authority, be it the government or the militias and terrorists.

Sorry for being pedantic.
Greyenivol Colony
24-12-2006, 15:15
It's the closest thing to anarchy around though.

Ahem, I believe that honour is held by Somalia. Although this current war will probably see the end of that.
Markreich
24-12-2006, 15:16
Trilby63;12128886']No, it's the closest thing to a chaotic break down of law and order.

Despite what your opinion is on the feasibility of an anarchist society, anarchy is not the absence of order, merely the absence of authority. Iraq has authority, be it the government or the militias and terrorists.

Sorry for being pedantic.

http://www.webster.com/dictionary/anarchy
1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order

You're talking 1, I'm talking 2. Both definitions are valid. :)
Hydesland
24-12-2006, 15:25
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.

The strong may be better off, while they opress the weak (most of the world).

Out of anarchy comes opression, as there is nothing to stop them.
Northern Borders
24-12-2006, 16:11
Anarchy doesnt work in real life. As long as someone has more power than someone else, he will desire to be the leader, either through weapons or through politics.

Anarchy would only work in very small comunities where everyone of its members has a way to achieve power without the need to become a leader.
[NS]Trilby63
24-12-2006, 16:13
http://www.webster.com/dictionary/anarchy
1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order

You're talking 1, I'm talking 2. Both definitions are valid. :)

Because we all know how politically savvy dictionaries are..:rolleyes:
Markreich
24-12-2006, 16:14
Trilby63;12129024']Because we all know how politically savvy dictionaries are..:rolleyes:

Or how yours is the only correct definition? :rolleyes:

C'mon now. If you can't accept a common term as a common term, what's the point?
[NS]Trilby63
24-12-2006, 16:20
Or how yours is the only correct definition? :rolleyes:

C'mon now. If you can't accept a common term as a common term, what's the point?

The point is that this is a political discussion in which anarchy has a specific meaning. Like the word "theory", when discussing science.
Ultraviolent Radiation
24-12-2006, 16:26
Trilby63;12129024']Because we all know how politically savvy dictionaries are..:rolleyes:

Being politically minded doesn't give you the right to redefine words - we have enough of that from governments.

I think what you mean to say is that you are talking about anarchy in the political theory sense, rather than a general sense, not that the dictionary is wrong.
[NS]Trilby63
24-12-2006, 16:42
Being politically minded doesn't give you the right to redefine words - we have enough of that from governments.

I think what you mean to say is that you are talking about anarchy in the political theory sense, rather than a general sense, not that the dictionary is wrong.

I'm not redefining the word. I'm not saying the dictionary is wrong. I'm saying that in a political discussion about anarchism you use the political definition.
Markreich
25-12-2006, 04:06
Trilby63;12129100']I'm not redefining the word. I'm not saying the dictionary is wrong. I'm saying that in a political discussion about anarchism you use the political definition.

2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order


okay! So please explain how the absence or denial of any authority or established order is apolitical.
UnHoly Smite
25-12-2006, 04:08
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.



ROTFLMFAO!!!! Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.
Darknovae
25-12-2006, 04:20
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.

Errr... no.

There has to be some type of governemtn in order for society to prosper... unless you're talking anarchy in the sense of the people taking over and being equal (meaning nobody in a higher position) and not nihilistic chaos...
New Genoa
25-12-2006, 04:37
The world doesn't need government. I wish all the worlds governments would dissappear. The world would be better off.

Dude, I have just the place for you.

Enjoy your visit! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia)
Free Soviets
25-12-2006, 06:29
C'mon now. If you can't accept a common term as a common term, what's the point?

trying to apply 'common term' usage in a technical context is just stupid.