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What would the US and the world be like if Al Gore had won presidency in 2000? What kind of policies would have been implemented? How would he have responded to 9/11. Would we be at war with Iraq?

What would the US and the world be like if Al Gore had won presidency in 2000? What kind of policies would have been implemented? How would he have responded to 9/11. Would we be at war with Iraq?
Quite honestly I don't think we can really know this, apart from checking in with an alternate universe where Al Gore was elected. Many pundits on the "American left" would have you believe that Al Gore would have been an absolute genius, and somehow the mixed up intelligence that kept us from preventing the attack would have been implimented had he been President, which is just idiotic, since the same people would have been involved either way. Of course, people on the "American right" would have you believe that the country would be a nuclear/biological/chemical wasteland right now due to terrorists, which is just as idiotic as the previous notion.

I think the only thing we can safely say would be that we would not have gone to war in Iraq. We'd probably still be stabilizing Afghanistan, and presumeably we might be pursuing relations with Iraq to try and use Hussien as an ally in the Middle East. I presume we would also be pushing strong sactions against North Korea and Iran while persuing diplomatic options to limit terrorist funding. Hopefully we'd institute sanctions against Pakistand and Saudi Arabia as well for their continued efforts to aid Al-Queda.

In before Manbearpig jokes.

Quite honestly I don't think we can really know this, apart from checking in with an alternate universe where Al Gore was elected.

Al Gore: You fool! You foolish fool!
Fry: Eh, what's the worst that could happen?
[The universe is sucked inside itself into nothingness.]
...
Fry: Where are we?
Al Gore: I don't know, but I can darn well tell you where we're not: the universe.

Al Gore: You fool! You foolish fool!
Fry: Eh, what's the worst that could happen?
[The universe is sucked inside itself into nothingness.]
...
Fry: Where are we?
Al Gore: I don't know, but I can darn well tell you where we're not: the universe.

Tomorrow for the new thread? I'll start it when I get up.

Tomorrow for the new thread? I'll start it when I get up.That's a big 10-4, good buddy!
What's your niner, over?

;)
Seriously, it's about 11pm here. What time persay? :)

That's a big 10-4, good buddy!
What's your niner, over?

;)
Seriously, it's about 11pm here. What time persay? :)

right now, it is 3 AM. I'm thinking some time between 12-2. Unless you think we should drop now...could always do that.

right now, it is 3 AM. I'm thinking some time between 12-2. Unless you think we should drop now...could always do that.

One might be inclined to think you oughtta be knockin' a few back, after all that work? ;)

I'll kick off if you want.
:)

Al Gore: You fool! You foolish fool!
Fry: Eh, what's the worst that could happen?
[The universe is sucked inside itself into nothingness.]
...
Fry: Where are we?
Al Gore: I don't know, but I can darn well tell you where we're not: the universe.

I knew someone would quote that before too long.

I knew someone would quote that before too long.
I don't accomplish much in life ... but i do appreciate the extraordinary opportunities you provide for me. :)
Yes, plural.

One might be inclined to think you oughtta be knockin' a few back, after all that work? ;)

I'll kick off if you want.
:)

haha...one might be correct in saying that. However, the drinking commences tomorrow around 4. Christmas shall be spent drunk in my new hot tub.

And feel free. I got some stories to get us started.

[QUOTE=Santiagazo;12128168]What would the US and the world be like if Al Gore had won presidency in 2000?

lol,
LOL

haha...one might be correct in saying that. However, the drinking commences tomorrow around 4. Christmas shall be spent drunk in my new hot tub.

And feel free. I got some stories to get us started.

Hot tubs rock. That's where i was a few hours ago. Oh, yes!
*commences*

What would the US and the world be like if Al Gore had won presidency in 2000? What kind of policies would have been implemented? How would he have responded to 9/11. Would we be at war with Iraq?

Obviously, since Al Gore is the secret Czar of Russia, we would be living under a one-world communist government. This is why we cannot afford to let the liberals win.

Let's see, the Republicans were in control of Congress at the time, so you know nothing was going to get done in that department. Gore would have been forced to invade Afghanistan whether he wanted to or not, but he would have bombed a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan just to be safe (Which begs the question, why would you want to buy prescription medicines made in the Sudan?) and we almost certainly wouldn't be in Iraq. I said before Bush was elected that he would invade Iraq if he won. Sr. sent Jr. in to finish the job he couldn't handle himself. Last but certainly not least, the military would continue to suffer cutback after cutback and the national debt would be slowly decreasing as opposed to its almost rampant increase.

Oh I almost forgot, the prospect of Hillary becoming President would be ever more real and scary.

Quite honestly I don't think we can really know this, apart from checking in with an alternate universe where Al Gore was elected.
An old video (http://algore.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=81) but exactly to the point.

Quite honestly I don't think we can really know this, apart from checking in with an alternate universe where Al Gore was elected. Many pundits on the "American left" would have you believe that Al Gore would have been an absolute genius, and somehow the mixed up intelligence that kept us from preventing the attack would have been implimented had he been President, which is just idiotic, since the same people would have been involved either way. Of course, people on the "American right" would have you believe that the country would be a nuclear/biological/chemical wasteland right now due to terrorists, which is just as idiotic as the previous notion.

I think the only thing we can safely say would be that we would not have gone to war in Iraq. We'd probably still be stabilizing Afghanistan, and presumeably we might be pursuing relations with Iraq to try and use Hussien as an ally in the Middle East. I presume we would also be pushing strong sactions against North Korea and Iran while persuing diplomatic options to limit terrorist funding. Hopefully we'd institute sanctions against Pakistand and Saudi Arabia as well for their continued efforts to aid Al-Queda.



We tried to have saddam as an ally before...didn't work out so well.

We tried to have saddam as an ally before...didn't work out so well.

Actually it worked wonderfully. He contained Iran, provided a counter weight to Arab Wahabbism, and was able to keep Soviets in check in the region.

If he had only checked again for permission to invade Kuwait.

Actually it worked wonderfully. He contained Iran, provided a counter weight to Arab Wahabbism, and was able to keep Soviets in check in the region.

If he had only checked again for permission to invade Kuwait.

...if only...
*ties dandelions with toes*

What would the US and the world be like if Al Gore had won presidency in 2000? What kind of policies would have been implemented? How would he have responded to 9/11. Would we be at war with Iraq?

Hmm...well there would be less influence in politics from evangelical Christians, so that's a plus.

We'd probably have about 40,000-60,000 troops in Afghanistan....and 0 in Iraq.

By not being stuck in Iraq, our military wouldn't be under so much strain, and we'd have the capability availiable to make Iran and North Korea think twice about some of the actions that they HAVE done.

Does NoKo test a nuke if we have 100,000 ready to kick ass, rather than stuck in the desert? I don't believe so.

Domestically, it's hard to say. We might not have new anti-terror legislation like the Patriot Act, or we still might, or it might just be a variation.

Environmental issues would likely be better off, and public interest in developing alternative energy might have been higher.

Hurricane Katrina?? I think FEMA was going to drop the ball no matter who was president, but that's just me.

Instead of a stupid plan from Bush to "privatize" Social Security, we'd probably have gotten a stupid plan from Gore to "nationalize" health care. I think Gore's would have had as much of a chance as Bush's did.

MOST importantly...I do not think Al Gore would have engaged in the kind of abrasive "diplomacy" that Bush has utilized...that has alienated our allies and emboldened our enemies.

I think we'd have been better off as a nation if Gore had won in 2000...it is hard to imagine anyone doing worse than Bush.

Well... We would have never wasted time in Iraq, we would have stabalized Afghanistan, rather than turning it into the Opium capital of the world, and we would probably actually have Osama bin Laden. Beyond that, we'd probably be better defended against Terrorists (see, Gore would actually do useful things, rather than wasteful posturing, like GWB and co. do), and we'd have more rights that we currently do.

We tried to have saddam as an ally before...didn't work out so well.
Doesn't mean that it's impossible a second time around.

If Al Gore had won, there would be world peace.

If Al Gore had won, the Daily Show would be canceled and John Stewart would be out of work. Al Gore just doesn't bring enough to the table; there are only so many "he's boring" jokes you can make. George W. Bush was the best thing that ever happened to political comedy. :p

If Al Gore had won, the Daily Show would be canceled and John Stewart would be out of work. Al Gore just doesn't bring enough to the table; there are only so many "he's boring" jokes you can make. George W. Bush was the best thing that ever happened to political comedy. :p

But.... but..... but he invents things. Like pants. And the internet.:p

In before Manbearpig jokes.

I wasn't going to reply to this but that just made me laugh. So now I'm going to.

If Al Gore were the president of the United States of America I believe it would be just a little bit less fucked up than it is now. George Bush makes it seem like nobody could do a worse job.

And I'm super cereal, you guys.


-the Kate Vegas
love&.

If Al Gore had won, the Daily Show would be canceled and John Stewart would be out of work. Al Gore just doesn't bring enough to the table; there are only so many "he's boring" jokes you can make. George W. Bush was the best thing that ever happened to political comedy. :p

Haha. George Bush leaves himself open for public humiliation. I can make a joke about him in an everyday normal conversation. I hate him very much and I think he's killing this country...but he's something to laugh at.


-the Kate Vegas
love&.

Well... We would have never wasted time in Iraq, we would have stabalized Afghanistan, rather than turning it into the Opium capital of the world, and we would probably actually have Osama bin Laden. Beyond that, we'd probably be better defended against Terrorists (see, Gore would actually do useful things, rather than wasteful posturing, like GWB and co. do), and we'd have more rights that we currently do.



....This is true.

But.... but..... but he invents things. Like pants. And the internet.:p

Sorry, not enough material. :(

If Al Gore had won, the Daily Show would be canceled and John Stewart would be out of work. Al Gore just doesn't bring enough to the table; there are only so many "he's boring" jokes you can make. George W. Bush was the best thing that ever happened to political comedy. :p

No, no, no. I assure you, there would have been plenty of political comedy bits to use for the Daily Show to stick around.

...

At least I hope, anyway.

America would be a lot better. Trans-Atlantic relations would be a lot better. Kyoto still wouldn't have been passed, but more would have been done for Global Warming. Tony Blair would still be a golden boy. North Korea, Iraq and Syria would all be on the verge of nuclear capability. And there would be a lot more dead Kurds.

Does NoKo test a nuke if we have 100,000 ready to kick ass, rather than stuck in the desert? I don't believe so.

They did it with 2 million Chinese troops ready to poor over the Korean border in their aid. When your enemy has more troops than you have bullets your options are rather limited. Bush can't be blamed for North Korea aquiring Nukes since America (under the Clinton Administration) backed out of the deal we made with North Korea to build two light-water reactors for them, it actually turns out that decision was the correct one to make though because North Korea never did halt work on their own nuke programs.

North Korea, Iraq and Syria would all be on the verge of nuclear capability. And there would be a lot more dead Kurds.

Somebody REALLY hasn't been paying attention. :p

If Al Gore had won, the Daily Show would be canceled and John Stewart would be out of work. Al Gore just doesn't bring enough to the table; there are only so many "he's boring" jokes you can make. George W. Bush was the best thing that ever happened to political comedy. :p
But.... but..... but he invents things. Like pants. And the internet.:p

Sorry, not enough material. :(

If LG can't find material in it, it's doomed to failure.

What would the US and the world be like if Al Gore had won presidency in 2000? What kind of policies would have been implemented? How would he have responded to 9/11. Would we be at war with Iraq?

My response:

Who gives a shit?

Al gore would have educated the public in the use of the english subjunctive and would have established guantanamo for people like the OP.

Al gore would have educated the public in the use of the english subjunctive and would have established guantanamo for people like the OP.

Wicked burn, man. That's classic.