Heavy Metal Music: Is It A Negative Influence Or Not?
Personly I don't think heavy metal music is a negative influence on this countries youth. I'm actually a fan of Lamb of God, Slipknot, and Korn. And I am a well ajusted individual; I don't have fanatasies of walking into school one day and murdering everybody. The fact that I'm and atheist wasn't brought by the music, I just don't support christianity. So all the preists out there that say my music is bad and is the work of satan.
ahem... blow me!
Yaltabaoth
24-12-2006, 07:16
it's funny because i'm usually pretty calm while listening to metal, but play (say) Hanson and i get murderous real fast
ViolentBloodyRebellion
24-12-2006, 07:18
eh, this myth was pretty much solved in the early 2000's, no, it doesnt influence you at all really....
Chicken Kleptomaniacs
24-12-2006, 07:23
I do not know, but it does have rather interesting effects upon plant life, namely very, very healthy plants.
There is some music that gets my blood boiling. But thats what metal supposed to do, help you release your pent up anger and frustration.
New Stalinberg
24-12-2006, 07:27
Heavy metal sucks, and kids these days wouldn't know good music if it hit em square in the face.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:28
This whole post seems to strike me as a very "I cut myself to stop the pain" emoesq experience.
I think it is a good stress reliever, if you would like to hear some of my favorite band go to www.lamb-of-god.com, click on the lamb of god radio link and listen to either walk with me in hell or redneck.
here are the lyrics to my favorite song by lamb of god.
In The Absence Of The Sacred
Violence a natural reaction in a society whose advances are limited to its new technology;
different only in the current mode of destructive intent.
Date has replaced real life in this world, no hope for the stop of "progress."
Inevitable bio-link implant will replace the feel of human touch.
All memory surrogates downloaded bought & sold, no true sense
of self. Impending sensory death looming near.
A number, this is what you've become. Life digitized itemized commodified.
Ha, ha, ha, this is what you work for...
Mythotic Kelkia
24-12-2006, 07:32
Personly I don't think heavy metal music is a negative influence on this countries youth. I'm actually a fan of Lamb of God, Slipknot, and Korn.
I agree, metal is not a negative influence. Those bands however definately are. Listen to some real metal.
The fact that I'm and atheist wasn't brought by the music, I just don't support christianity.
I'm not going to point out the fallacy here, but just so long as you notice it.
Here is another one, I love this song!
an extra nail for your coffin
At a loss for something different to say,
I've said everything, we've said it all before.
An extra nail for your coffin.
I'm going to ride that horse we've beaten to death,
And deliver its stinking carcass to your doorstep.
A gift from all the dead children,
That are the progeny of your ballistic union.
Borrowing from Peter to rape Paul,
No news is good news, but I've got some news for you.
Fetch me a rope, lynch mob of one.
An extra nail for your coffin.
Certain blood has been shed for uncertain reasons.
You will never quiet this storm,
A cold wind to chill your bones.
I bring the hammer down.
Borrowing from Peter to rape Paul,
No news is good news, but I've got some news for you.
Fetch me a rope, lynch mob of one
go to their website to hear some of their music.
Personly I don't think heavy metal music is a negative influence on this countries youth. I'm actually a fan of Lamb of God, Slipknot, and Korn.
I think those particular bands are negative influences upon music, but not necessarily people.
;)
Akai Oni
24-12-2006, 07:39
Its far less of a negative influence than Shit-me to Tears (Britney Spears), or Xtina. Or most "rap" artists.
The kids listening to metal tend to be more socially aware and more mature than those who do not.
That being said, I personally can't stand listening to metal. I just can't. It hurts my ears.
I think those particular bands are negative influences upon music, but not necessarily people.
;)
and why exactly is that? those bands kick ass.
Heavy metal sucks, and kids these days wouldn't know good music if it hit em square in the face.
Evidently, you wouldn't either, if you can eliminate an extremely diverse genre just like that.
visit lamb of gods website and listen to some of the songs on lamb of god radio.
Its far less of a negative influence than Shit-me to Tears (Britney Spears), or Xtina. Or most "rap" artists.
The kids listening to metal tend to be more socially aware and more mature than those who do not.
I fucking hate rap, rap artists should be round up and shot!
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:40
Its far less of a negative influence than Shit-me to Tears (Britney Spears), or Xtina. Or most "rap" artists.
I tend to think it's all pretty much crap.
The kids listening to metal tend to be more socially aware and more mature than those who do not.
Source? Sitting around the dorm smoking up, listening to old rage against the machine and talking about how "the man" is keeping everyone down doesn't make one "more socially aware and more mature"
thats the old shit, I listen to death metal , industrial metal and speed metal, totally different from that hippie crap!
this is directed to the above reply.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:42
Personly I don't think heavy metal music is a negative influence on this countries youth...And I am a well ajusted individual
So all the preists out there that say my music is bad and is the work of satan.
ahem... blow me!
I don't have fanatasies of walking into school one day and murdering everybody.
I fucking hate rap, rap artists should be round up and shot!
You know...you're not really helping your own cause here.
Mythotic Kelkia
24-12-2006, 07:43
Source? Sitting around the dorm smoking up, listening to old rage against the machine and talking about how "the man" is keeping everyone down doesn't make one "more socially aware and more mature"
neither does perpetuating stereotypes.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:44
neither does perpetuating stereotypes.
Oh don't get me wrong, I happen to quite enjoy rage against the machine. I have just noticed from personal experience that many who talk about how "insert their favorite genre or passtime" tends to favor more intelligent/mature/active/socially responsible individuals, it's usually a lot of hot air.
I would rather listen to metal and release my anger by punching a hole in a wall, then to not listen to it and put a bullet hole in the shithead who made me angry in the first place.
Heavy metal has good theraputic value.
Mythotic Kelkia
24-12-2006, 07:44
thats the old shit, I listen to death metal , industrial metal and speed metal, totally different from that hippie crap!
this is directed to the above reply.
dude listen to some black metal, or power metal, or symphonic metal. Way better than the nu-metal emo crap you listen to.
You know...you're not really helping your own cause here.
how am i hurting my own cause; I like metal. and the shitty church goers arn't going to change that. I dont fantasize about killing people which alot of people think metal induces. It doesn't.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:46
Personly I don't think heavy metal music is a negative influence on this countries youth...And I am a well ajusted individual
versus
I would rather listen to metal and release my anger by punching a hole in a wall
and
I don't have fanatasies of walking into school one day and murdering everybody.
juxtaposed with
then to not listen to it and put a bullet hole in the shithead who made me angry in the first place.
And we see some interesting comparisons being formed here.
Heavy metal has good theraputic value.
No, therapy has good theraputic value, and instead of allowing you to release your anger against the wall, not shooting someone, it MIGHT actually teach you not to be so damned angry that you go around putting holes in walls in the first place.
dude listen to some black metal, or power metal, or symphonic metal. Way better than the nu-metal emo crap you listen to.
give me some band names and i'll find them and take a listen. I'm open to all forms of metal.
New Stalinberg
24-12-2006, 07:48
Evidently, you wouldn't either, if you can eliminate an extremely diverse genre just like that.
Diverse? Are you kidding?
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:48
how am i hurting my own cause; I like metal. and the shitty church goers arn't going to change that. I dont fantasize about killing people which alot of people think metal induces. It doesn't.
You've talked about shooting people twice in four minutes. In the world of logic and rationality, saying "I listen to metal and I don't have violent fantasies" at the same time discussing killing people is what we call "hurting your cause"
versus
and
juxtaposed with
And we see some interesting comparisons being formed here.
No, therapy has good theraputic value, and instead of allowing you to release your anger against the wall, not shooting someone, it MIGHT actually teach you not to be so damned angry that you go around putting holes in walls in the first place.
you can oppose my views and listen to that conventional shit all you want, i dont give a fuck.
and why exactly is that? those bands kick ass.
I like to think of myself as pretty open minded when it comes to music. I actually like Korn's first album, and I can deal with a couple of Slipknot songs ("Skin Ticket" is pretty good from what I remember and I can smile at the title of "People=Shit") but on the whole most of the catalogue by those artists is terribly uninspired, demonstrating little or no talent. The biggest problem, however, is that they try to sound "aggressive" and mostly come across as laughable. In addition, Slipknot had a terrible live show when I saw them at a festival.
Cats and Eggs
24-12-2006, 07:49
how am i hurting my own cause; I like metal. and the shitty church goers arn't going to change that. I dont fantasize about killing people which alot of people think metal induces. It doesn't.
But you say metal influences you to punch holes in the wall?
I listen to quite a lot of metal myself, and always thought that those who get violent because of it are extremelly influenciable. By that I don't mean you can't use music to let go your anger sometimes, but, punching holes through the wall? Please, that's silly.
Chicken Kleptomaniacs
24-12-2006, 07:51
Black Sabbath is quite good, as is Judas Priest. Rainbow could be called metal, I suppose... Deep Purple? Scorpions? Foreigner? Old bands, I know, but quite good-sounding bands..
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:51
am a well ajusted individual
vs.
you can oppose my views and listen to that conventional shit all you want, i dont give a fuck.
Fuel to the fire kiddo, fuel to the fire.
You've talked about shooting people twice in four minutes. In the world of logic and rationality, saying "I listen to metal and I don't have violent fantasies" at the same time discussing killing people is what we call "hurting your cause"
I'm using it to get my point across, that metal helps in the release of pent of anger at people. take columbine for example, they lived in well devolped families, didnt listen to good metal music. got picked on, and bam went and killed people.
Cats and Eggs
24-12-2006, 07:51
Diverse? Are you kidding?
You can't even argue with that. The spawning of tags and more tags to describe
recent metal bands is the proof of diversity. Not to mention the genres that metal is spawning but is still considered metal just because it's "heavy".
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:53
I'm using it to get my point across
Most normal, well adjusted people don't talk about shooting people to get their point across.
that metal helps in the release of pent of anger at people.
Most people don't consider putting holes in walls a healthy, well adjusted method of venting anger.
Most people don't carry that much anger in the first place.
take columbine for example, they lived in well devolped families, didnt listen to good metal music. got picked on, and bam went and killed people.
I'm thinking a lack of good death metal was the least of those kids problems.
what do you think of these lyrics?
What I've Become
Blank stares from broken men
So withered from the poisons they can't remember when
There were once honest reasons. Pretending I'm still here
Justify what I've become, sanctify what I've become
Amazing disgrace.. (how) sweet the sound that saved a witch like me.
Better lost if this is found, best blinded never to see.
The race to save face, nothing now is what we meant it to be.
Pretending I'm still here.
It's a system now, intertwined.
Take your place in the line to be ground by the gears of the masterpiece.
Betrayal.
Suffered consequence
It's been so long any piece of this made any kind of sense.
You anoint the king, I'll burn everything down to ashes.
You giveth, I taketh away.
It's a system now, intertwined.
Take your place in the line to be ground by the gears of the masterpiece.
Betrayal.
( lamb of god lyrics )
Most normal, well adjusted people don't talk about shooting people to get their point across.
Most people don't consider putting holes in walls a healthy, well adjusted method of venting anger.
Most people don't carry that much anger in the first place.
I'm thinking a lack of good death metal was the least of those kids problems.
pent up anger, as i was saying.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:55
what do you think of these lyrics?
Emo.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 07:55
pent up anger, as i was saying.
yeah, well, as I was saying, most normal, healthy, well adjusted people don't carry that much pent up anger in the first place.
And as I recall, those columbine kids were pretty into maryln manson.
Mythotic Kelkia
24-12-2006, 07:55
give me some band names and i'll find them and take a listen. I'm open to all forms of metal.
well for example...: Bathory, Mayhem, Burzum, Ulver (their earlier stuff; their later stuff is still awesome, but it's not exactly metal), Celtic Frost, Wintersun, Dimmu Borgir, Therion, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody Of Fire, Stratovarius, Dragon Force, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Korpiklaani, Moonsorrow, Haggard, Nightwish, Tristania, After Forever, Epica, Lumsk, Magö De Oz, Orphaned Land...
Cats and Eggs
24-12-2006, 07:56
I'm using it to get my point across, that metal helps in the release of pent of anger at people. take columbine for example, they lived in well devolped families, didnt listen to good metal music. got picked on, and bam went and killed people.
So, everyone who doesn't listen to metal and gets picked on will go around shooting people?
Chicken Kleptomaniacs
24-12-2006, 07:56
I'm using it to get my point across, that metal helps in the release of pent of anger at people. take columbine for example, they lived in well devolped families, didnt listen to good metal music. got picked on, and bam went and killed people.
People kill people whether they listen to metal or not. One example is not proof that heavy metal prevents murder. Music in and of itself releases tension in the body, or at least that's how I've experienced it--from classical to rock and roll, or metal.
I fucking hate rap, rap artists should be round up and shot!
Ugh.
Diverse? Are you kidding?
No, i'm not. Your own ignorance doesn't make my statement incorrect. What is commonly defined as "metal" encompasses a vast range of influences and stylistic approaches. Nobody could seriously compare, for example, Black Sabbath to any given death metal band and state that they both sound the same and therefore that metal is not diverse.
I wrote these lyrics to my girlfreind after she broke up with me, it describes how i felt about her at the time.
More Time To Kill
I just got the news today you were dying,
Hot Damn! We're already partying.
But please, before you have to leave,
Let me tell you a few last things.
Suffer, unto me.
Indulge, my every need.
I don't want to meet you halfway,
I've always despised that fucking place.
I'm not offering you my way,
I'm kicking you down the fucking highway.
Get one thing straight from the get go,
I truly don't give a fuck about you.
I never have and I never will,
Each day you breathe is more time to kill.
Fuck your world up.
Your last breath,
I'll take it now.
Your last breath,
I'll rip it away.
And haunt your dreams in your final sleep.
Get one thing straight from the get go,
I truly don't give a fuck about you.
I never have and I never will,
Each day you breathe is more time to kill.
I never have and I never will
Lamb Of God Lyrics
Cats and Eggs
24-12-2006, 07:58
well for example...: Bathory, Mayhem, Burzum, Ulver (their earlier stuff; their later stuff is still awesome, but it's not exactly metal), Celtic Frost, Wintersun, Dimmu Borgir, Therion, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody Of Fire, Stratovarius, Dragon Force, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Korpiklaani, Moonsorrow, Haggard, Nightwish, Tristania, After Forever, Epica, Lumsk, Magö De Oz, Orphaned Land...
Great choice there. Even though I myself am not much into black metal (Bathory, Mayhem), there are a lot of good bands there (I'm listening to Ensiferum as we speak).
Chicken Kleptomaniacs
24-12-2006, 07:58
what do you think of these lyrics?
What I've Become
Blank stares from broken men
So withered from the poisons they can't remember when
There were once honest reasons. Pretending I'm still here
Justify what I've become, sanctify what I've become
Amazing disgrace.. (how) sweet the sound that saved a witch like me.
Better lost if this is found, best blinded never to see.
The race to save face, nothing now is what we meant it to be.
Pretending I'm still here.
It's a system now, intertwined.
Take your place in the line to be ground by the gears of the masterpiece.
Betrayal.
Suffered consequence
It's been so long any piece of this made any kind of sense.
You anoint the king, I'll burn everything down to ashes.
You giveth, I taketh away.
It's a system now, intertwined.
Take your place in the line to be ground by the gears of the masterpiece.
Betrayal.
( lamb of god lyrics )
If you want philosophy, Pink Floyd is one of the best, although they are not, by any means, heavy metal, but rather progressive rock.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 08:00
I wrote these lyrics to my girlfreind after she broke up with me, it describes how i felt about her at the time.
Oh yeah, you're healthy and well adjusted.
Now don't get me wrong. Music can be entertaining. Music can be moving. Music can be uplifting. Music, at times, can be damned transcendental. And people like different music, that's fine, you have the right to like whatever you like, but going around screaming
"hey, nothing's wrong with metal, all those who say people who like metal are violent are fucking assholes man, I listen to metal and I'm perfectly normal! I'm not violent, fuck you! I mean, if it wasn't for metal I'd...I'd...I'd fucking kill someone!".
There...there's a disconnect there. Something's not all adding up. You like metal, fine, your right. But to on one hand hold yourself out there as the happy well adjusted metal fan while at the same time talking about killing people and how metal helps you "control your anger" so all you do is punch holes in walls and not shoot people...something doesn't quite fit.
well for example...: Bathory, Mayhem, Burzum, Ulver (their earlier stuff; their later stuff is still awesome, but it's not exactly metal), Celtic Frost, Wintersun, Dimmu Borgir, Therion, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody Of Fire, Stratovarius, Dragon Force, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Korpiklaani, Moonsorrow, Haggard, Nightwish, Tristania, After Forever, Epica, Lumsk, Magö De Oz, Orphaned Land...
You would list tripe like Demon Burger and ignore Emperor? :p
Yaltabaoth
24-12-2006, 08:02
you can oppose my views and listen to that conventional shit all you want, i dont give a fuck.
uh... then why'd you start a forum on the subject?
Mythotic Kelkia
24-12-2006, 08:02
Great choice there. Even though I myself am not much into black metal (Bathory, Mayhem), there are a lot of good bands there (I'm listening to Ensiferum as we speak).
tbh I'm not much of a black metal fan myself either, but I included them for completeness' sake. Anyway Bathory's latest albums are more Viking/Power metal, much more listenable. I quite like Burzum's ambient electronica stuff too, despite the fact that Vark Vikerness is a murderer and an arsonist with nazi sympathies... not that that had anything to do with his music, I hasten to add :p
I think its more the Death Metalists Christians worry about, considering their songs are always about, suprise suprise, death. Plus, most death metalists are Satanists and so try to use music to convert others.
Plus, most death metalists are Satanists and so try to use music to convert others.
Ugh.
New Stalinberg
24-12-2006, 08:04
Sinatra owns all.
another good song. I listen to this just because i like it.
Requiem
Down, chemical sacrament,
Blasphemous prayer.
Deliver me from this
so serene apocalypse.
Just make me fucking numb,
Deaf, blind and fucking dumb.
Return to sacred sleep.
This could be my requiem,
And I'll feel no pain.
This could be my requiem,
But don't bury me too deep.
Drain infected brine,
Sickened cesspool shell of mine.
Strap up the hands of time,
And push the soul into the vein.
Just make me fucking numb,
Deaf, blind and fucking dumb.
Return to sacred sleep.
This could be my requiem,
And I'll feel no pain.
This could be my requiem,
But don't bury me too deep.
Sink, suffer, self destruct.
Rise, stronger, reconstruct.
Dispose, Discard, Deny.
And I will feel no pain
Lamb Of God Lyrics
Gaelic Greater Scotia
24-12-2006, 08:05
i think it's pretty obvious that angry people would listen to angry music. the media will twist that and pretend that the music made them angry, but anybody with any sense of awareness could see through that.
korn and slipknot are metal now? christ. say that around a metalhead and they'll rip your head off.
I think its more the Death Metalists Christians worry about, considering their songs are always about, suprise suprise, death. Plus, most death metalists are Satanists and so try to use music to convert others.
hahahahaha every time i see stuff like this i can't help but laugh. while 'christian' bands go off singing about getting laid and jesus in the same song as if somehow that works, death metal bands often have quite profound philosophical lyrics, but, of course, anybody who's not christian is a mindless atheist scumbag, right?
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 08:06
I'm beginning to think this is a shitty ass viral marketing campaign for an upcoming lamb of god album.
A Devil In God's Country
Returning to solace
So sweet like honeysuckle on the tongue
The sound of silence blesses my ears
Enveloping like the earth I will one day lie in
Metropolis is bad to wither the soul
Roaring concrete and steel washes you in blood.
So let you point and laugh
Provincial ain't so bad.
Take me back down to where I belong
To rust in rivers.
I do not covet any man's life
I know my place all to well
One man's paradise is another man's living hell.
To each their own
Generations ago made this place my own
The roots are deep and strong
Carry them wherever I go.
Never wanted your approval
Never wanted your acceptance
Never wanted to be anything but me
Never wanted to be anywhere but here.
Carry me Southeast bound home
To speak in defense of our good name
Lay me to rest with my kin
In the ground of God's country.
Lash out at any who would smear you with hate
Deify no one, Never crawl ashamed
The past screams injustice on Southern night wind
Whips Manacles Chains Musket balls
A dark history never forgotten
Only misconception remains.
Speak in defense of our good name
The blood of kin grants absolution
I'll join them soon enough kin the ground of God's country.
Never wanted your acceptance
Never wanted your approval
Never wanted to be anything but me
Never wanted to be anywhere but here.
Lamb Of God Lyrics
Mythotic Kelkia
24-12-2006, 08:07
can I show off by quoting lyrics for no reason too? no? Well I'm going to anyway:
Kirki - Korpiklaani
Öitsilöissä karkeilossa
Karkeilossa mielesissa
Juhlasissa köyrysissä
Nyt miehyt olla tahon!
Jalka tahtoo tanssahella
Toine vähä vähtäskellä,
Kolmas kovin koukkaella,
Mie nyt miehyt valmis!
Kun on nännät näppysissä,
Kyrvän kuuman nivuksessa,
Nouse liekki riehuman!
Kohoa kirki kiimalle!
Naikkoseni, verevämi
Eukkoni miun valittuin'.
Lie'on lämmön sulattavi
Lemmen, kiihkon liekuttavi
Kuuma on yöhyt, kesä lämmin,
Kirki kuumempi sitäki
Nouse liekki riehumahan!
Kohoa kirki kiimalle!
:cool: so awesomez.
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 08:08
Aruba, jamaica ooo I wanna take you
Bermuda, bahama come on pretty mama
Key largo, montego baby why dont we go
Jamaica
Off the florida keys
Theres a place called kokomo
Thats where you wanna go to get away from it all
Bodies in the sand
Tropical drink melting in your hand
Well be falling in love
To the rhythm of a steel drum band
Down in kokomo
Aruba, jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To bermuda, bahama come on pretty mama
Key largo, montego baby why dont we go
Ooo I wanna take you down to kokomo
Well get there fast
And then well take it slow
Thats where we wanna go
Way down to kokomo
To martinique, that monserrat mystique
Well put out to sea
And well perfect our chemistry
By and by well defy a little bit of gravity
Afternoon delight
Cocktails and moonlit nights
That dreamy look in your eye
Give me a tropical contact high
Way down in kokomo
Aruba, jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To bermuda, bahama come on pretty mama
Key largo, montego baby why dont we go
Ooo I wanna take you down to kokomo
Well get there fast
And then well take it slow
Thats where we wanna go
Way down to kokomo
Port au prince I wanna catch a glimpse
Everybody knows
A little place like kokomo
Now if you wanna go
And get away from it all
Go down to kokomo
Aruba, jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To bermuda, bahama come on pretty mama
Key largo, montego baby why dont we go
Ooo I wanna take you down to kokomo
Well get there fast
And then well take it slow
Thats where we wanna go
Way down to kokomo
Aruba, jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To bermuda, bahama come on pretty mama
Key largo, montego baby why dont we go
Ooo I wanna take you down to kokomo
New Stalinberg
24-12-2006, 08:08
LAWL!!!!11 P0STING TEH LYRICS IZ SO KEWL!!!!111ONE
I'm gonna sit right down
And write myself a letter,
And make believe it came from you.
I'm gonna write words oh, so sweet
They're gonna knock me off of my feet,
A lot of kisses on the bottom,
I'll be glad I got 'em.
I'm gonna smile and say,
"I hope you're feeling better,"
And close with love, the way that you do.
I'm gonna sit right down
And write myself a letter,
And make believe it came from you.
I'm gonna sit right down
And write myself a letter,
And make believe that it came from you.
I'm gonna write words oh, so sweet, yeah!
Lotta kisses on the bottom,
I'll be glad I got 'em.
I'm gonna smile and say,
"I hope you're feeling better,"
And close with love, the way that you do.
I'm gonna sit right down
And write myself a letter,
And make believe it came from you...
I'm gonna sit right down
And write myself a letter,
And make believe it came,
Make believe that it came from you!
Come on everyone, hop on the bandwagon! It's the best bandwagon of all time, I swear.
Cats and Eggs
24-12-2006, 08:08
tbh I'm not much of a black metal fan myself either, but I included them for completeness' sake. Anyway Bathory's latest albums are more Viking/Power metal, much more listenable. I quite like Burzum's ambient electronica stuff too, despite the fact that Vark Vikerness is a murderer and an arsonist with nazi sympathies... not that that had anything to do with his music, I hasten to add :p
Ahah, yeah. I didn't mentioned Burzum because I like 'em (him) quite a lot, in musical terms that is, because Varg is definitly a sick person. I only heard early Bathory albums, and while they're not bad, I consider them the "regular" black metal, which I'm not much into, maybe I should give a listen to the older ones.
Also, to the OP, give a listen to Opeth, Between the Buried and Me, Darkest Hour, Children of Bodom, From a Second Story Window, Necrophagist, The Mars Volta (these are not really metal, but they rule). Some of those don't fit much into the "real" metal cathegory as they go into the 'cores (much like Lamb of God anyway.)
Yaltabaoth
24-12-2006, 08:10
I think its more the Death Metalists Christians worry about, considering their songs are always about, suprise suprise, death. Plus, most death metalists are Satanists and so try to use music to convert others.
anton lavey's third book 'the satanic witch' is hilarious!
basically he just encourages women to dress and act like sluts to get men to do what they want them to
don't write off satanism - there are some great laughs to be found there
Akai Oni
24-12-2006, 08:15
Source? Sitting around the dorm smoking up, listening to old rage against the machine and talking about how "the man" is keeping everyone down doesn't make one "more socially aware and more mature"
I really just have anecdotal experience from the kids I teach. The Xtina clones and gangsta wannabes tend to be the immature ones, while those that listen to more alternative forms of music tend to be slightly more responsible and mature.
Yaltabaoth
24-12-2006, 08:17
(ponders "Questions for a Satanist" thread...)
Yaltabaoth
24-12-2006, 08:21
I wrote these lyrics to my girlfreind after she broke up with me, it describes how i felt about her at the time.
-snip-
Lamb Of God Lyrics
so did you write them or did Lamb of God?
or are you IN Lamb of God, and this really is a viral marketing exercise after all?
Arthais101
24-12-2006, 08:21
(ponders "Questions for a Satanist" thread...)
I'm so considering "questions for a guy" thread.
Akai Oni
24-12-2006, 08:24
I'm so considering "questions for a guy" thread.
please do, I'll make it a single-handed success!
Yaltabaoth
24-12-2006, 08:26
I'm so considering "questions for a guy" thread.
be sure to get Buristan's permission first ;)
(ducks)
Sylvontis
24-12-2006, 08:45
I'm a huge fan of metal, personally. But that's only because of Dream Theater (Progessive Metal), Dragon Force (Speed Metal, I think) and Nightwish (Symphonic Metal).
You can keep your death metal.
Ahah, yeah. I didn't mentioned Burzum because I like 'em (him) quite a lot, in musical terms that is, because Varg is definitly a sick person. I only heard early Bathory albums, and while they're not bad, I consider them the "regular" black metal, which I'm not much into, maybe I should give a listen to the older ones.
Also, to the OP, give a listen to Opeth, Between the Buried and Me, Darkest Hour, Children of Bodom, From a Second Story Window, Necrophagist, The Mars Volta (these are not really metal, but they rule). Some of those don't fit much into the "real" metal cathegory as they go into the 'cores (much like Lamb of God anyway.)
What do you think of death metal, and more specifically, melodic death metal? Bands like In Flames and Arch Enemy, to use two bands I love and are (as far as I've seen) the most cited bands of this genre.
As for full-on death metal like Entombed or Unleashed, the gigs are fun, but the music is like a wall of brutality :p
Neo Undelia
24-12-2006, 12:58
It’s not a negative influence. It’s just stupid.
PedroTheDonkey
24-12-2006, 13:16
Heavy metal sucks, and kids these days wouldn't know good music if it hit em square in the face.
Kids these days wouldn't know metal if hit them square in the face either.:)
HC Eredivisie
24-12-2006, 13:36
I think its more the Death Metalists Christians worry about, considering their songs are always about, suprise suprise, death. Plus, most death metalists are Satanists and so try to use music to convert others.
That's not true, I worship Cthulhu.
Swilatia
24-12-2006, 13:54
it's just music. how is that suppose to be any influence.
[NS]Trilby63
24-12-2006, 14:07
it's just music. how is that suppose to be any influence.
Well you only have to look at how emo is weakening future generations with them tight pants they wear..