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My New Country

Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:19
I am in the process of forming my new countries government, and I would like to hear you opinions of how I should form it; and what sort of laws should I pass.

There are also positions that need to be filled in my new government. I will give them to those who seem most intelligent and not full of shit.
Rhaomi
24-12-2006, 02:21
There are also positions that need to be filled in my new government. I will give them to those who seem most intelligent and not full of shit.
Well, that's a relief. :p
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 02:23
I am in the process of forming my new countries government, and I would like to hear you opinions of how I should form it; and what sort of laws should I pass.

There are also positions that need to be filled in my new government. I will give them to those who seem most intelligent and not full of shit.

I tihnk this belongs either here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1234) or here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1230).
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:23
I'm not really sure how I'm going to organize my government. But I do know that the economy of my country will most definently be government controlled. That way I can produce the things needed for my military effectivly
Zarakon
24-12-2006, 02:23
I volunteer for leapfrog.


Couldnt' resist.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:25
I'm being serious, I've already left the U.S. in search of land to start my new nation. I'm especially looking for a new Minister of Defence.
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 02:28
I'm being serious, I've already left the U.S. in search of land to start my new nation. I'm especially looking for a new Minister of Defence.

I think you'll find most of the world has already been claimed. If you want to create a new country then you're going to have to do it literally, as in physically make an island.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:31
Fuck that, the island nations of the world are weak if I can get enough support inside on of the island nations I can stage a coup.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 02:38
You will need a fairly large defence force, or America will take over the country as a peacekeeping mission. They will bring deocracy to you. Even if your system is already democratic with you as a temporary placeholder of power.
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 02:42
Fuck that, the island nations of the world are weak if I can get enough support inside on of the island nations I can stage a coup.

So you want to try and stage a coup within a nation outside the US? I suggest you start by getting a rather large army. A few million troops at least.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:43
I know, I fucking hate America. Fucking imperialist cocksuckers. And for the record I think Bush should burn in hell for sending our freinds and family into a war with Iraq with justifieable cause. Bringing democracy to the world is not their job.

Any suggestions on which island nation to take over?
Hamilay
24-12-2006, 02:45
for sending our freinds and family into a war with Iraq with justifieable cause
:confused:
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 02:45
I know, I fucking hate America. Fucking imperialist cocksuckers. And for the record I think Bush should burn in hell for sending our freinds and family into a war with Iraq with justifieable cause. Bringing democracy to the world is not their job.

Any suggestions on which island nation to take over?

Try something in Micronesia. Most of the world is rather apathetic towards them, you're not likely to incur international wrath.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:45
So you want to try and stage a coup within a nation outside the US? I suggest you start by getting a rather large army. A few million troops at least.

yes, but from where. America would quickly cut down an atempt for a bunch of would be troops from leaving America to set up their own country.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:46
Try something in Micronesia. Most of the world is rather apathetic towards them, you're not likely to incur international wrath.

where the fuck is micronesia, is it even a place or some shit on the net.
Jack of Diamondz
24-12-2006, 02:46
Fuck that, the island nations of the world are weak if I can get enough support inside on of the island nations I can stage a coup.

I dont think you're giving the islands enough credit. Imagining weakness in what seem to be unstable power structures-and "exploiting" those weaknesses for regime change *cough* will not always pass according to plan. Also, even where governments are weak, cultures can remain strong.
The Pacifist Womble
24-12-2006, 02:46
fuck you
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 02:46
yes, but from where. America would quickly cut down an atempt for a bunch of would be troops from leaving America to set up their own country.

Maybe tell those would be troops not to mention to the nice people at the customs desk that they're travelling to take over a soveriegn nation.
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 02:47
fuck you

There are no words for the awesomeness of your contribution to this thread. Perhaps because of the lack of contribution.......
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:51
Maybe tell those would be troops not to mention to the nice people at the customs desk that they're travelling to take over a soveriegn nation.

remind me to tell them that later.

I'll need to study the culture of my intended target first though, it would do my no good to take over the country then have its population turn on me.
The Love of Allah
24-12-2006, 02:52
I am in the process of forming my new countries government, and I would like to hear you opinions of how I should form it; and what sort of laws should I pass.

There are also positions that need to be filled in my new government. I will give them to those who seem most intelligent and not full of shit.

Install sharia law and give positions in your government not to the most intelligent, but to the most pious.
Swilatia
24-12-2006, 02:55
NSG is not about playing NS! *slaps with fish*
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 02:56
Install sharia law and give positions in your government not to the most intelligent, but to the most pious.

no no no, religon does nothing but cause trouble, nothing in any religious text can be proven, I fucking hate religion. I believe in God but i do not abide by christian doctrine.
I think taking over a country contradicts with thou shalt not kill.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 02:56
Micronesia is a fiar suggestion, they don't have many international allies do they?

The most important part of a foreign coup is that nobody will hurt you for doing it. Find a country with no friends, or one that's actively hated. Take over it, then set up a system to make other countries pleased about it. (If it's a country that all others hate, make peace and set up lucrative trade deals (Lucrative for them)). That way if there is a counter-revolution, other countries may support you.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 03:00
And another of my posts ruined by typing too fast.

The religion idea works. You don't have to believe in it btw. In fact, a lot of leaders who endorse a national religion aren't believers.
Setting up a small Monarchy is a good idea, if the people belive you took over because a God insisted, then they are more likely to leave you in power. Fake Democracy can work, if they feel that they actually picked you. Feudalism wont work too well in this day and age. You need a lot of forces to back you up. Communism no.

Go with Monarchy or an American style Democracy. You'll always stay in power, and there's a better chance it wont be taken from you by force.
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 03:00
Micronesia is a fiar suggestion, they don't have many international allies do they?

The most important part of a foreign coup is that nobody will hurt you for doing it. Find a country with no friends, or one that's actively hated. Take over it, then set up a system to make other countries pleased about it. (If it's a country that all others hate, make peace and set up lucrative trade deals (Lucrative for them)). That way if there is a counter-revolution, other countries may support you.

You might want to try a country that hasn't let people do explorations for valuable minerals. Take that over and then let(read:charge) companies come in and poke holes in the ground looking for oil or coal or things of that nature. No loss to you if they don't find anything, and plenty of benefit if they do.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:01
Micronesia is a fiar suggestion, they don't have many international allies do they?

The most important part of a foreign coup is that nobody will hurt you for doing it. Find a country with no friends, or one that's actively hated. Take over it, then set up a system to make other countries pleased about it. (If it's a country that all others hate, make peace and set up lucrative trade deals (Lucrative for them)). That way if there is a counter-revolution, other countries may support you.

good idea. I need someone with brains to help me with this though. My freinds take this as a joke. they dont recognize my seriousness.
Vittos the City Sacker
24-12-2006, 03:02
There are also positions that need to be filled in my new government. I will give them to those who seem most intelligent and not full of shit.

I am the most intelligent and the most full of shit, where do I fit in?
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:03
Monarchy, I like it. Should I have a parliment type system of law making or should I get medieval and make the laws up myself. I like making laws; but I want some opinions.
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 03:03
I am the most intelligent and the most full of shit, where do I fit in?

Minister of Truth.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:04
I am the most intelligent and the most full of shit, where do I fit in?

good, then you can be the Officer of Propaganda, you smart and full of shit. the people will love you.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 03:05
Monarchy, I like it. Should I have a parliment type system of law making or should I get medieval and make the laws up myself. I like making laws; but I want some opinions.

The populace are pleased if you pretend they had a say.

Either hold votes on a lot of laws at once to get started, and modify your choices based on what happens. Or do open polling for laws, and have people planted to make it look like your choices were a majority vote.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 03:08
I feel I have proven my worth as a minister.

If I'm minister of Education (Only if you haven't already decided one) I promise to - Firstly, put on pants - work with the minister of propaganda to subtly inflect bias into the education system. And Set up a system similar to the NCEA whereupon the most learned and intelligent people dont get posistions of power, rather people who know their limits and are loyal to the governmental system.

Edit: Despite being intelligent, my loyalty will be with you because you can put me in the highest position of power compared to any other possible ruler.

Also, start with a small government, and slowly enlarge it with people who (seemingly) are taken from the general populace, use propaganda to make them seem like "Genuine poeple of the Nation"
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:15
I feel I have proven my worth as a minister.

If I'm minister of Education (Only if you haven't already decided one) I promise to - Firstly, put on pants - work with the minister of propaganda to subtly inflect bias into the education system. And Set up a system similar to the NCEA whereupon the most learned and intelligent people dont get posistions of power, rather people who know their limits and are loyal to the governmental system.

Edit: Despite being intelligent, my loyalty will be with you because you can put me in the highest position of power compared to any other possible ruler.

Also, start with a small government, and slowly enlarge it with people who (seemingly) are taken from the general populace, use propaganda to make them seem like "Genuine poeple of the Nation"


You are here by appointed to Minister of Education, and Secretary of City Defence.
Basicly you control where schools are built and you control the protection of governmental interests in the major cities. The people I appoint to lower positions will most likely be blindly obiediant. But I would like an educated man to be my secretary of war. No dumbasses please.
Call to power
24-12-2006, 03:16
Ahem *gets 13 year old dictionary* “How old R u” and “u av neva had a Gfreind av u lol”

needless to say I say since you don't know about Micronesia maybe you should go through middle school first then maybe go for some shithole in Africa
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:19
Ahem *gets 13 year old dictionary* “How old R u” and “u av neva had a Gfreind av u lol”

needless to say I say since you don't know about Micronesia maybe you should go through middle school first then maybe go for some shithole in Africa

what the fuck do you mean by this.
MariVelasca
24-12-2006, 03:21
He can always take over Nigeria...but I'll only allow it if he changes the name of Lagos to "Legoland." He can spam the world with 4-1-9 Scams, too...

I've won the international lottery five times now...
Call to power
24-12-2006, 03:22
what the fuck do you mean by this.

quick without using Google:

Q) why do most coups fail?

and yes I am saying your a child who should stop fapping over taking over the world and maybe go outside so the big people can talk about where all the socks go
Ifreann
24-12-2006, 03:24
quick without using Google:

Q) why do most coups fail?

and yes I am saying your a child who should stop fapping over taking over the world and maybe go outside so the big people can talk about where all the socks go

My theory is that washing machines are actually powered by black holes. Socks are the only article of clothing that can slip through the various layers of protection into the black holes.
MariVelasca
24-12-2006, 03:26
No, no...it's the sock Gnomes. Although they don't honestly disappear, they're bartered for. Hence the copious amounts of pocket change one finds in the Dryer.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:27
quick without using Google:

Q) why do most coups fail?

and yes I am saying your a child who should stop fapping over taking over the world and maybe go outside so the big people can talk about where all the socks go

KISS MY ASS, most coups fail because they are poorly planned and sudden. And most are done for fucked up reasons. I've been planning this for a litte over 12 years now. I just came here for some other options and opinions.
Call to power
24-12-2006, 03:27
My theory is that washing machines are actually powered by black holes. Socks are the only article of clothing that can slip through the various layers of protection into the black holes.

don't be silly they go to odeworld (sp?) where the population always finds socks but loses coat hangers!
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 03:28
Ahem *gets 13 year old dictionary* “How old R u” and “u av neva had a Gfreind av u lol”

needless to say I say since you don't know about Micronesia maybe you should go through middle school first then maybe go for some shithole in Africa

A shithole in africa would me larger, but much harder to defend, and less previous public services.

What I like about the Micronesia idea (Even if ti was suggested in jest) is it's 700 km^2 of land would be much easier to defend with planted defenses, whereas a larger area would require mobile defnses which could always be used against us.

Water would be more plentiful due to a system I would encourage the government to take up, based off other countries stormwater systems and masses of purifiers, much more water than a shithole in africa would have.

We would reinforce buildings to stand up to the stroms, which would make the populace happy with us, for lowering the casualty rate.

Export cheap phosphate to other countries in exchange for any possible future support.

108K people will not be too hard to control, even spanning 607 islands, in fact that may help.

I Will encourage other Ministers to put these plans of mine into action (With changes that they see fit, from their better viewpoint). And encourage fishing to be taken place slightly further from the shores.

I will ecourage the Ministry of Health to improve hospitals, especially maternity wards, so that the death rate will decrease, and birth rate increases, and child mortality rate decreases, eventually bringing the population growth up to a positive number.

Education is very good, done in English, and will require only small, most likely not noticed, changes to ecourage servitude.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 03:30
I sincerely hope this goes through, as I believe with the right people it would work.

Unfotunately the more bloodless the coup is, the more chance of it working out. To this end I suggest very careful planning, possibly a defamation campaign up to a year before carrying out the coup. Make it look like it's performed by citizens of Micronesia and it will gain much more support.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:30
A shithole in africa would me larger, but much harder to defend, and less previous public services.

What I like about the Micronesia idea (Even if ti was suggested in jest) is it's 700 km^2 of land would be much easier to defend with planted defenses, whereas a larger area would require mobile defnses which could always be used against us.

Water would be more plentiful due to a system I would encourage the government to take up, based off other countries stormwater systems and masses of purifiers, much more water than a shithole in africa would have.

We would reinforce buildings to stand up to the stroms, which would make the populace happy with us, for lowering the casualty rate.

Export cheap phosphate to other countries in exchange for any possible future support.

108K people will not be too hard to control, even spanning 607 islands, in fact that may help.

I Will encourage other Ministers to put these plans of mine into action (With changes that they see fit, from their better viewpoint). And encourage fishing to be taken place slightly further from the shores.

I will ecourage the Ministry of Health to improve hospitals, especially maternity wards, so that the death rate will decrease, and birth rate increases, and child mortality rate decreases, eventually bringing the population growth up to a positive number.

Education is very good, done in English, and will require only small, most likely not noticed, changes to ecourage servitude.

you have just earned the right to pick any position you want for the govenment. except of course leader, but go ahead pick you place. Me and you are going to get along just fine.
Call to power
24-12-2006, 03:32
KISS MY ASS,

what an inspired result I dread to hear what comes next!

most coups fail because they are poorly planned and sudden.

no because they don't have popular support you haven’t even touched on the Weimar republic yet have you?

I've been planning this for a litte over 12 years now. I just came here for some other options and opinions.

so how old are you again? And if you come for seriousness you might want to do some research and you’ know come back with a better response than “fuck you”
MariVelasca
24-12-2006, 03:34
What about me? I could begin the underground movement. We'll begin with freeing the oppressed and disenfranchised Garden Gnomes...get them on your side and the People will follow.
Bolysica
24-12-2006, 03:35
I'm 26. but seeing as I apparently wont be taken seriouly here either. I'm done with this thread, and will move on to richer provinces.
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 03:35
you have just earned the right to pick any position you want for the govenment. except of course leader, but go ahead pick you place. Me and you are going to get along just fine.

Official position? Minister of Education and Secretary of City Defense sounds good to me. I think I can do the most good (For us th at is) in those positions. Would I be able to modify that right into having greater resources, and more freedom of operation? Improving said positions rather than creating new ones with the powers I want these to have.
Call to power
24-12-2006, 03:37
I'm 26. but seeing as I apparently wont be taken seriouly here either. I'm done with this thread, and will move on to richer provinces.

go ahead it should be fun to see a 12 year old being carried home by airport security screaming "I want an island in Icrowkneeze"
MariVelasca
24-12-2006, 03:37
I think you should reconsider what you say...NSG is the most vibrant and beautiful forum you will find that caters to Governance and Politics.

Come on man, think of the Garden Gnomes you turn your back on!
Vittos the City Sacker
24-12-2006, 03:41
Minister of Truthiness.

Fixed.
Rhaomi
24-12-2006, 03:41
I will give them to those who seem most intelligent and not full of shit.

Fuck that, the island nations of the world are weak if I can get enough support inside on of the island nations I can stage a coup.

I know, I fucking hate America. Fucking imperialist cocksuckers. And for the record I think Bush should burn in hell for sending our freinds and family into a war with Iraq with justifieable cause. Bringing democracy to the world is not their job.

Any suggestions on which island nation to take over?

where the fuck is micronesia, is it even a place or some shit on the net.

I fucking hate religion. I believe in God but i do not abide by christian doctrine.
I think taking over a country contradicts with thou shalt not kill.

The people I appoint to lower positions will most likely be blindly obiediant. But I would like an educated man to be my secretary of war. No dumbasses please.

what the fuck do you mean by this.

KISS MY ASS, most coups fail because they are poorly planned and sudden. And most are done for fucked up reasons.

Well, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.
Vittos the City Sacker
24-12-2006, 03:44
good, then you can be the Officer of Propaganda, you smart and full of shit. the people will love you.

They should, since I am the voice of the workers.
Call to power
24-12-2006, 03:44
Well, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

someone needs to get laid IMHO
New Zealandium
24-12-2006, 04:15
No thread, no die.
Buristan
24-12-2006, 04:36
I'm being serious, I've already left the U.S. in search of land to start my new nation. I'm especially looking for a new Minister of Defence.

Well, lucky for you, the world is full of fixer-uppers, and quite a few of them are buy one get one nuke. Good luck to you.
The Pacifist Womble
24-12-2006, 13:35
There are no words for the awesomeness of your contribution to this thread. Perhaps because of the lack of contribution.......
I like to surprise!