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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378931-details/Don%27t+kick+the+robot%2C+it%27s+got+rights+as+well%2C+say+scientists/article.do

Everyone assumes humans will be able to achieve AI in the not too distant future.

Would we as the "creators" have the right to impose the Asimov Laws on robots with AI. Or should we allow them free will?

I think it would be kind of scary to have other intelligent sentient beings sharing the planet with us though. They just might not like us when they realise how s****y we as a race can be!

Do you think they'll demand the right to make more of themselves? If you kill a robot, is it murder? Are robots made for the express purposes of sex illegal? Can a robot have an abortion? What about gay robots?

This opens up so many moral questions.

It is in our interests to try and make sure AIs are law-abiding...

It is in our interests to try and make sure AIs are law-abiding...

Well, generally. Or at least ethical, I should say. Simply strictly law-abiding could lead to ... problems.

Well, generally. Or at least ethical, I should say. Simply strictly law-abiding could lead to ... problems.

It'd be interesting to see what loopholes they could find.

Possibly early on in the development of sentient/semi-sentient robots various unbreakable programmed laws may have to be built in, as these earlier robots will have, essentially no ethics, real creativity, or intellects, but hopefully later on, as (or if) robots become more sentient, more human-like, we can remove such restrictions and allow them 'robot rights' equivalent to human rights.

It'd be interesting to see what loopholes they could find.

Did you read "That Thou art Mindful of Him" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%94That_Thou_art_Mindful_of_Him) ;) ?

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378931-details/Don%27t+kick+the+robot%2C+it%27s+got+rights+as+well%2C+say+scientists/article.do

Everyone assumes humans will be able to achieve AI in the not too distant future.

Would we as the "creators" have the right to impose the Asimov Laws on robots with AI. Or should we allow them free will?

I think it would be kind of scary to have other intelligent sentient beings sharing the planet with us though. They just might not like us when they realise how s****y we as a race can be!
but how can robots/AI acheive free will while being programmed by humans.

now if they were self programming and self replicating...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378931-details/Don%27t+kick+the+robot%2C+it%27s+got+rights+as+well%2C+say+scientists/article.do

Everyone assumes humans will be able to achieve AI in the not too distant future.

Would we as the "creators" have the right to impose the Asimov Laws on robots with AI. Or should we allow them free will?

I think it would be kind of scary to have other intelligent sentient beings sharing the planet with us though. They just might not like us when they realise how s****y we as a race can be!

what happen's if we pull the plug

Wikipedia gave me another interesting link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_artificial_intelligence

In future studies, Friendly artificial intelligence, or FAI is a model for creating moral and "safe" artificial intelligence, in accordance with the principles of Friendliness theory, advanced by researcher Eliezer Yudkowsky and the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence. Friendliness is used as a term of art distinct from the everyday meaning of the term.

And of course the mind-twisting implications of lonely geeks falling for "Hot AIs".

Not to mention, would you want HAL watching your kids?

"I'm afraid I can't let you do that Davy."

fembots would solve all problems in the world

The question is, if you'll give robots the image of humans, and the characteristics of humans, would they logically assume that in form are humans?
Cause don't we categorize humanity by outward appearance among other things?

And of course the mind-twisting implications of lonely geeks falling for "Hot AIs".
A happiness-oriented AI would seek to provide fembots to lonely geeks, yes...

... this is one of the things that drives research.

fembots would solve all problems in the world

Well, rape would probably be mostly solverd. Whose gonna risk jail time when you can screw your idea of a perfect woman?

Well, rape would probably be mostly solverd. Whose gonna risk jail time when you can screw your idea of a perfect woman?

Rape is about power, not sex.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378931-details/Don%27t+kick+the+robot%2C+it%27s+got+rights+as+well%2C+say+scientists/article.do

Everyone assumes humans will be able to achieve AI in the not too distant future.

Would we as the "creators" have the right to impose the Asimov Laws on robots with AI. Or should we allow them free will?

I think it would be kind of scary to have other intelligent sentient beings sharing the planet with us though. They just might not like us when they realise how s****y we as a race can be!

It doesn't matter. As television has shown me, regardless of what safeguards we take, the robots will kill us all. :(

They should be entitled to all of the rights humans are, maybe more. If we can create a superior, robotic intelligence it should be allowed to exercise its capabilities to a high degree.

Just as long as robots don't try to marry each other, I think they should have most of the rights the rest of the human race has.

Just as long as robots don't try to marry each other, I think they should have most of the rights the rest of the human race has.

You are my new god.

You are my new god.

Slaughter a lamb in my name and if you can find a virgin, congratulate her on her chastity. Remember: Nothing says congratulations like a "I'm Number One" baseball cap.

There's no need to drastically program robots to remove any potential for Free Will. If it was me I would just program robots to be vapid consumerists, just like us, and culturally convince them that humans are needed to make the useless tat that they want to buy.

By making robots as human as possible, they will be much more absorbable into human society.

Slaughter a lamb in my name and if you can find a virgin, congratulate her on her chastity. Remember: Nothing says congratulations like a "I'm Number One" baseball cap.

What, are we trying to get her a few fetishes or something?

Firstly, I dislike the term robot, I prefer "synthetic being", secondly, I see no reason why us synthetic beings shouldn't have rights, after all we superior strength and mental prcoesses. If you cut us, do we not bleed? (well it's not actually blood, it hydraulic fluid but even so the same principle applies).

lol

Rape is about power, not sex.

Those people in BDSM mix power and sex. I don't see why rape can't be done by people who find power over a person very arousing. It makes the sex better for them, the rapist.

There's no need to drastically program robots to remove any potential for Free Will. If it was me I would just program robots to be vapid consumerists, just like us, and culturally convince them that humans are needed to make the useless tat that they want to buy.

By making robots as human as possible, they will be much more absorbable into human society.

You win.

You win.

I wish I had that picture of spock with the words "Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector"


That picture does exist.

Congratulations, this is the stupidest thread started today.

Congratulations, this is the stupidest thread started today.

More stupid than stupidest?

More stupid than stupidest?



:confused:

Congratulations, this is the stupidest thread started today.

There's your sign.

Those people in BDSM mix power and sex.

While this is true, be careful not to associate BDSM with rape. Most of us find the comparison rather offensive.

While this is true, be careful not to associate BDSM with rape. Most of us find the comparison rather offensive.

I used BDSM as an example that sex and power are not mutually exclusive. BDSM is consensual, and speaking from experience very fun. Rape is not either.

oh god damnit, no, we can't even handle human rights properly yet, we don't need this shit.