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What scares me is that is happened in my city, in fact, I can see the suburb which it happened in right now.

Not something you'd expect in ANY city

The bad: rape is bad.

The good: kiwi-granny musta been hawt.

You live in the Edinburgh of the South Pacific?:p

You live in the Edinburgh of the South Pacific?:p

I really don't know how to take that, so I'll go with the:

Whats it to you*old crabby look*

Hell, and I thought there was nothing to do in dunedin during the summer months..

The bad: rape is bad.

The good: kiwi-granny musta been hawt.

That's even too sick for me.

That's even too sick for me.

And yet you still lollercausted like the final solution was going out of style.

And yet you still lollercausted like the final solution was going out of style.

Actually, I didn't. I nearly threw up in my mouth.

I hope that when I am 85 an 18 year old girl rapes me.

I hope that when I am 85 an 18 year old girl rapes me.

I'll second that.
But,in all seriousness....ewwwww!

I just threw up in my mouth.

how can you be charged with burglary twice in one case:confused:

The bad: rape is bad.

The good: kiwi-granny musta been hawt.

Nope, rape is about violence and/or power, NOT predominantly sex

And the story doesn't say the guy went to prison.

And the story doesn't say the guy went to prison.

which means?

which means?

that the thread title is wrong?

I hope that when I am 85 an 18 year old girl rapes me.

Amen, Amen.

I hope that when I am 85 an 18 year old girl rapes me.

Then, by definition, wouldn't it not be rape?

Then, by definition, wouldn't it not be rape?

True. Can't rape the willing. :p

True. Can't rape the willing. :p

Well see I would be shouting NO NO NO!!! because I would be having a heartattack and I would know I would die, so I wouldn't want her to do it.... but I would still enjoy that final act before I died inside her.... :)

Well see I would be shouting NO NO NO!!! because I would be having a heartattack and I would know I would die, so I wouldn't want her to do it.... but I would still enjoy that final act before I died inside her.... :)

TMI

Let's bring back the rack for this asshole.

I thought the title implied more than one woman. But still, 85? I can sort of understand a guy that age raping a woman half that age, but at 85, eww. 85-year-old-women are frail and brittle... That'll be another reason for the elderly to be afraid of teenagers. That poor woman mustn't have known what hit her.

how can you be charged with burglary twice in one case:confused:

If the NZ legal system is like the UK one then there's lots of different crimes which are all called 'burglary' for short.
'Burglary with intent to steal' is the most obvious one.
Other examples are 'burglary with intent to commit rape', 'burglary with intent to do unlawful damage' and 'burglary with intent to commit grievous bodily harm'.
So, matey is on course to be charged with one or two of those. Or, he broke into another property at some point.

I thought the title implied more than one woman. But still, 85? I can sort of understand a guy that age raping a woman half that age...

Again: rape is more about power and violence than sex.

Again: rape is more about power and violence than sex.

Damn, here was I, gonna say that to show how smart I was, and you took that opportunity away from me. :p

Ain't sex with an 85 year old considered necrophilia? :confused:

Ain't sex with an 85 year old considered necrophilia? :confused:

I do wonder what happens if someone dies during... =S

Ain't sex with an 85 year old considered necrophilia? :confused:

It's pretty darn close.

Eww.... poor old lady :(

Eww.... poor old lady :(

My question is why the 18 year old did it.

The ewww rating is off the charts.

my aunty and uncle live in dunedin :eek: . neither are eighteen or 85 though, so i doubt they were involved.

Isn't there a law someone where about accidental murder? (if the old lady died...) or something like that? someone help me out here.

Isn't there a law someone where about accidental murder? (if the old lady died...) or something like that? someone help me out here.

I am sure it would fall in the manslaughter category in the USA

I am so glad the guy was 18, hopefully that means he can be tried to the full extent of the law. Given that he's pleaded guilty to the initial five charges I see no reason not to. Just the stress could have killed her, I don't think I have the words to express my disgust at what he did.

I don't think anyone needs to be ultra-conservative to want to throw the book at this guy. And the gavel, and the wig and anything else to hand. The spiked railing around the dock would be good if they still have that type of thing in NZ.

Isn't there a law someone where about accidental murder? (if the old lady died...) or something like that? someone help me out here.

Accidental murder would, according to my TV education, be something along the lines of negligent homicide or manslaughter.

People really shouldn't live past 60. So that's almost like necrophilia.

I am so glad the guy was 18, hopefully that means he can be tried to the full extent of the law

aren’t we nice :p

am I the only one who wants to know why an 18 year old (presumably healthy) couldn't just go to a nightclub/gimps dungeon (for the power feeling)

Let's bring back the rack for this asshole.

Why?

In my opinion, this actually is less traumatic then normal rape. Let's face it, raped when your twenty can seriously fuck up your life. In this case, you're views are pretty much cemented, and your life won't be as screwed up.

In my opinion, this actually is less traumatic then normal rape. Let's face it, raped when your twenty can seriously fuck up your life. In this case, you're views are pretty much cemented, and your life won't be as screwed up.

but she will burn all the gingerbread men laughing evilly as there gumdrop buttons disintegrate...

there is also less chance CTP will get cake :(

Why?

The fact that anyone can read the above story without hungering for this fucker's death sickens and saddens me. Mankind is on a downward spiral.

Isn't there a law someone where about accidental murder? (if the old lady died...) or something like that? someone help me out here.

I think raping someone to death qualifies as murder.

I think raping someone to death qualifies as murder.

In the UK, murder requires you to have set out with the intention of killing the victim, or of causing the victim serious harm, while being 'reckless that they would be killed'.

If there was no intent to kill, and no 'recklessness', it would be manslaughter. If the victim died in a case like this, much would probably depend on the condition granny was in when he left her.

I saw a similar case once, where the victim died a few weeks later. Very hard to prove there was any direct cause and effect, so in the end the bloke was jailed for rape, not for murder or manslaughter.

My question is why the 18 year old did it.

For POWER over another person. OR for violence. Or for both. Because although forced sex is involved, rape is NOT primarily about sex.

aren’t we nice :p

am I the only one who wants to know why an 18 year old (presumably healthy) couldn't just go to a nightclub/gimps dungeon (for the power feeling)

JUST??? Rape is traumatic whoever it happens to (with the possible extremely small exception of a handful of women who may enjoy it)

Why?

In my opinion, this actually is less traumatic then normal rape. Let's face it, raped when your twenty can seriously fuck up your life. In this case, you're views are pretty much cemented, and your life won't be as screwed up.

This is just as bad as any rape. The 'bad thing' about being raped is not that it fucks up your views. It's a horrifying experience, a disgusting violation of your body where you are reduced to the status of a worthless object by the rapist. Whatever age you are, being raped can still affect you in the ways in which it can affect young people - flashbacks, nightmares, being unable to sit near males (if you're female and raped by a male), paranoia, anxiety attacks, fear of leaving your house, and a whole load of other horrible stuff, including so much mental pain that it causes you to try to kill yourself.

The old in britain are already terrified of leaving there houses , and probably do ahev anxiety atatcks and no one seems to bother about them or care fot them (i'm talking those who work at places where they should)