NationStates Jolt Archive


Stupid parents and the holidays

Dakini
22-12-2006, 00:29
two examples of retarded parenting were observed in the mall today.

First I was walking through the mall with my sister and there were two women pushing strollers, walking very slowly with another woman beside them and a couple small children running around them in circles. The group managed to take up the entire hallway and the children wandering around aimlessly made it nearly impossible to squeeze by.

Then we went to the pet store and some kids were there with their parents and they chose some very aggressive fish, four of them, because their children thought they looked neat. These are the sorts of fish you get one of or if you get a couple, you need a giant tank and lots of rocks to keep them from killing each other and these people bought four of them.

Why is it that some parents have no control over what their kids do or give their kids whatever they want rather than what makes sense to get. For instance, steer the kids away from the aggressive fish and toward the guppies, which are also pretty and colourful, or put your kid on one of those armband leashes so they can't wander everywhere.
Ultraviolent Radiation
22-12-2006, 00:43
If you only notice human stupidity during the holidays, consider yourself lucky.
Arinola
22-12-2006, 00:47
It's parental behaviour like that that leads to spoiled brats.Kids like that need a bit more control.
Greyenivol Colony
22-12-2006, 00:50
Well, you can't expect everyone to be a fish expert. In fact, you can't really expect anyone but the saddest of the sad to be fish experts.

I agree with you about people taking up the whole of a pathway... that's really frustrated.
Dakini
22-12-2006, 00:52
If you only notice human stupidity during the holidays, consider yourself lucky.
No, I notice human stupidity all year, but it's most frustrating when you're in a crowded mall.
The Holy Ekaj Monarchy
22-12-2006, 00:52
Parents who let their kids do whatever end up having kids who are spoiled and rude
Dakini
22-12-2006, 00:53
Well, you can't expect everyone to be a fish expert. In fact, you can't really expect anyone but the saddest of the sad to be fish experts.
I don't expect them to be experts, I expect them to take note of the sign that says "This is an aggressive fish" and "This fish grows up to 14 inches" that are stuck to the aquarium.
The Holy Ekaj Monarchy
22-12-2006, 00:53
Parents who let their kids do whatever end up having kids who are spoiled and rude. Don't get me wrong. Parents getting gifts or freedom isn't bad, there is just a place to draw the line.
Utracia
22-12-2006, 01:04
I am more annoyed by those mothers who go into a supermarket and let therir kids kick, run, scream and basically cause a total nuisance of themselves and she just ignores it. Or the kid will demand something and then start wailing if she refuses and so of course.... she gives the kid what they want. And these parents think they are doing something good for their kids by not enforcing a "no"?
Dakini
22-12-2006, 01:15
I am more annoyed by those mothers who go into a supermarket and let therir kids kick, run, scream and basically cause a total nuisance of themselves and she just ignores it. Or the kid will demand something and then start wailing if she refuses and so of course.... she gives the kid what they want. And these parents think they are doing something good for their kids by not enforcing a "no"?
It's the same problem we have with our dog. He'll jump on people, which he shouldn't do, but then my parents and sisters will pet him after he does that. Then when he jumps on me and I tell him no and refuse to pet him, they say that I'm being mean. I will not be a part of giving positive reinforcement for bad behaviour, dammit.
Sumamba Buwhan
22-12-2006, 01:20
I know exactly what you are on about Dakini.

Not only do I hate seeing parents ignoring their kids while they run rampant... I also hate seeing them talk down to their children by calling them stupid or whatnot and I see it all too often.

Rest assured that I will be one less bad parent in the world because I am fixed :D
Anti-Social Darwinism
22-12-2006, 02:16
Parents who let their kids do whatever end up having kids who are spoiled and rude. Don't get me wrong. Parents getting gifts or freedom isn't bad, there is just a place to draw the line.

Unfortunately, these unconscionable little monsters affect all of us and we are not allowed to do or say anything for fear of causing them and their incompetent mothers angst.
Smunkeeville
22-12-2006, 15:47
some people never learned how to teach their children to behave because they still have no self control.

I was at a restaurant last night for my birthday, when a kid kept screaming, not crying mind you, but screaming like in a horror movie, right behind my head.....hubby trying to be "the hero" <3 got up and politely asked the people behind me if they could "keep it down" as it was my birthday and their child was giving me a headache.

Well, the mom got pissy (who wouldn't) and said "I don't know what the fuck to do with the kid, he does this all goddamn day, if you can get him to shut up I will buy you a brownie, fucker"

so I turned around in my chair and said "Cayden" (I knew his name because his dad had been screaming it for about 15 minutes) "why are you screaming?"

and he answered "bobo hurts"

and I looked at his mom........she said "that's his bottom"

"Cayden, does bobo hurt right now?" I asked in my preschool teacher voice

"uh-huh" he said with tears in his eyes

she took him to the bathroom and came back out about 30 minutes later and thanked me.............

now I ask you, if your kid screamed like that wouldn't you just ask them why?!

oh, and if you didn't figure it out yet, the kid had a rash :( poor kid, with a mom like that I bet he will never have a good day.
Cluichstan
22-12-2006, 15:50
Parents who let their kids do whatever end up having kids who end up in jail at some point

Fixed for accuracy.

Well, the mom got pissy (who wouldn't) and said "I don't know what the fuck to do with the kid, he does this all goddamn day, if you can get him to shut up I will buy you a brownie, fucker"

That's just lovely... :rolleyes:
Smunkeeville
22-12-2006, 15:57
That's just lovely... :rolleyes:
her husband did buy me the brownie, so that was nice.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 15:57
I am so lucky. My kids are so well behaved for the majority of the time.
They never cause a scene anywhere- people constantly comment on how well behaved they are. It usually becomes clear when they other people's kids are bouncing off the walls,running into doors and making a mess and a lot of noise.
My kids are happy and respectful and I'm always proud of them after whatever event-school, shopping,movies,scouts-whatever. These events always feature someone else's kid having a melt down or putting on a huge embarrasing display of being mean spirited and spoiled.

Whenever I see this, I realize how damn lucky I am. My wife's a great mother,though-I'll give her a lot of the credit.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 15:59
her husband did buy me the brownie, so that was nice.

Nice- a helpful birthday "fucker",rewarded with a brownie.

Happy birthday, fucker!!
Smunkeeville
22-12-2006, 15:59
I am so lucky. My kids are so well behaved for the majority of the time.
They never cause a scene anywhere- people constantly comment on how well behaved they are. It usually becomes clear when they other people's kids are bouncing off the walls,running into doors and making a mess and a lot of noise.
My kids are happy and respectful and I'm always proud of them after whatever event-school, shopping,movies,scouts-whatever. These events always feature someone else's kid having a melt down or putting on a huge embarrasing display of being mean spirited and spoiled.

Whenever I see this, I realize how damn lucky I am. My wife's a great mother,though-I'll give her a lot of the credit.

my kids are like your kids, I think it's because I treat them like people, expect them to behave their best, and I don't act like a bitch.

all of the 'bad kids' I see have bitchy parents who treat them like dogs and expect them to act like animals.
Cluichstan
22-12-2006, 16:00
her husband did buy me the brownie, so that was nice.

Wife sounds like a foul-mouthed skank. That kinda language in front of a child? Yeesh.
Smunkeeville
22-12-2006, 16:02
Wife sounds like a foul-mouthed skank. That kinda language in front of a child? Yeesh.

the husband seemed embarassed by it, I got the feeling while she was in the bathroom with the kid that he was relieved that she was gone.

poor guy
Cluichstan
22-12-2006, 16:05
the husband seemed embarassed by it, I got the feeling while she was in the bathroom with the kid that he was relieved that she was gone.

poor guy

Rightfully embarassed by it. She should've been embarassed by it as well, but alas, some people simply have no class whatsoever.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 16:06
my kids are like your kids, I think it's because I treat them like people, expect them to behave their best, and I don't act like a bitch.

all of the 'bad kids' I see have bitchy parents who treat them like dogs and expect them to act like animals.

I've always treated my children and wife with respect, but at the same time, always demanded it too.
Its just their nature now.

If they really want something and ask for it in the store-If I feel its within reason, they know I'll get it. If I say no, they leave it at that-there is no whining and now public show.

They know that I wont forget they want it as well as their behavior-and they can expect they may get it as a surprise soon-or when more appropriate.

My two boys just got excellent progress reports in school,so they were rewarded for their efforts.

In January, I bought a mid-week minivacation to an indoor waterpark. The day we go, they will get up and get ready for school like a normal day, not knowing we are headed there and spending the night too.

I love to surprise them.
Smunkeeville
22-12-2006, 16:13
I've always treated my children and wife with respect, but at the same time, always demanded it too.
Its just their nature now.

If they really want something and ask for it in the store-If I feel its within reason, they know I'll get it. If I say no, they leave it at that-there is no whining and now public show.

They know that I wont forget they want it as well as their behavior-and they can expect they may get it as a surprise soon-or when more appropriate.

My two boys just got excellent progress reports in school,so they were rewarded for their efforts.

In January, I bought a mid-week minivacation to an indoor waterpark. The day we go, they will get up and get ready for school like a normal day, not knowing we are headed there and spending the night too.

I love to surprise them.

are you sure you are not my husband?

he used a personal business day last week (didn't tell the kids) and woke them up and took us all to the museum, best surprise ever, they were so happy.
IL Ruffino
22-12-2006, 16:18
In January, I bought a mid-week minivacation to an indoor waterpark. The day we go, they will get up and get ready for school like a normal day, not knowing we are headed there and spending the night too.

I love to surprise them.

*has an idea of where you're going*
*stalks*
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 16:31
*has an idea of where you're going*
*stalks*


You know it:

http://www.greatwolflodge.com/Locations/Poconos/


They love it there-We do the water slides,etc.. til 10pm,then we have a suite with a fireplace-we watch a movie or two, have some snacks.
Then do the waterpark again the next morning.

This time we may go snowtubing next door too.
IL Ruffino
22-12-2006, 16:36
You know it:

http://www.greatwolflodge.com/Locations/Poconos/


They love it there-We do the water slides,etc.. til 10pm,then we have a suite with a fireplace-we watch a movie or two, have some snacks.
Then do the waterpark again the next morning.

This time we may go snowtubing next door too.

I really want to go, take me!

http://www.livenirvana.com/forum/images/smilies/puppydog.gif
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 16:37
are you sure you are not my husband?

he used a personal business day last week (didn't tell the kids) and woke them up and took us all to the museum, best surprise ever, they were so happy.


If I am your husband, that would put you upstairs now, baking Christmas cookies for the neighborhood. Isat you?


I try to plan a special surprise for them often- it gives them something unknown to look foward to-it could happen at any time.

And like I said- they are very well behaved kids,doing very well in school.My 13 yr old is on the honor roll and my 8 yr old got all "outstandings" as well as additional praise from his teachers.
So-I feel they deserve a little reward and recognition.

I think this may help temper their behavior at other times.
Outcast Jesuits
22-12-2006, 16:43
I don't think I'm spoiled...I've actually stopped asking for stuff because I expect them to say no. Other people have giant Christmas lists, and I can barely come up with ten things I want and need. I'd rather talk to my parents than get stuff from them.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 16:46
I really want to go, take me!

http://www.livenirvana.com/forum/images/smilies/puppydog.gif

Its a really great place-I have as much fun as the kids do.

They have a wave pool that is calm til the wolves start howling about every ten minutes,then the waves start.

They have a few three story tube slides with corkscrew tunnels-that zig-zag in and out of the building. A 10,000 gallon water bucket that slowly fills and dumps all over a play area and a log flume that three people can ride in a raft on.
They serve beer & drinks if you want poolside,hot tubs, etc..

We get into it as much as the kids. And take a break for a good buffet dinner wit hprime rib, etc...
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 16:58
I don't think I'm spoiled...I've actually stopped asking for stuff because I expect them to say no. Other people have giant Christmas lists, and I can barely come up with ten things I want and need. I'd rather talk to my parents than get stuff from them.

You hit that nail right on the head.

Sometimes, as parents, we spend too much time struggling to make money so we can give our kids "the best of everything".

Mom & Dad work, sometimes more than one job. And by the time the family is together-the last thing you want to do is talk to kids.

Sometimes, all the kids want is uninterrupted caring and attention.

I stopped working early one day and called the two boys out into the back yard one day a few years ago and told them with a straight face it was time they learned how to spit.
For two or three hours,we spit and laughed our asses off. We were three friends, not two little boys and the big serious father. They still bring it up from time to time.

Kids need that more than they need a toy that will distract them from the fact their parents are too busy.
IL Ruffino
22-12-2006, 17:00
Its a really great place-I have as much fun as the kids do.

They have a wave pool that is calm til the wolves start howling about every ten minutes,then the waves start.

They have a few three story tube slides with corkscrew tunnels-that zig-zag in and out of the building. A 10,000 gallon water bucket that slowly fills and dumps all over a play area and a log flume that three people can ride in a raft on.
They serve beer & drinks if you want poolside,hot tubs, etc..

We get into it as much as the kids. And take a break for a good buffet dinner wit hprime rib, etc...

:eek:

Now I really really really want to go.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2006, 17:14
:eek:

Now I really really really want to go.

So-get some friends and plan to go-It aint far-its in ScotRun PA.


You can ski/snow tube across the street all day,then do the waterpark after dinner.