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And here we are complaining about our illegal immigration problems. Poor France and Germany. They didn't even support the Iraq war and Spain has withdrawn all of its troops. Unlike what Lov of Allah seems to think, I guess you don't really need ta have any military presence in the Middle east to incur the wrath of the Jihadists. You just need to not be Muslim.

BERLIN - The threat of a terrorist attack on European soil by Islamic radicals has increased substantially in recent months, reaching its highest levels since the London transit attacks of July 2005, according to European counterterrorism officials. Adding to the anxiety: fresh threats against Britain and France delivered Wednesday by al-Qaeda's deputy leader.

In a new videotape, Ayman al-Zawahiri, the second-in-command to al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, singled out Britain as a historical enemy of Muslims, blaming it for the creation of the state of Israel and the downfall of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th century.

He also said al-Qaeda would continue to plan attacks on the United States and its "Crusader" allies in Europe as long as Western powers remain in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon. "The animosity of Britain toward Islam stretches over centuries," Zawahiri said, according to a translation of his remarks by the SITE Institute, a terrorism research organization. "Isn't it the one who used to occupy most Islamic lands?"

It was the 15th recorded speech released this year by Zawahiri, a 55-year-old Egyptian physician who has shown little fear of speaking out despite a $25 million reward for his capture posted by the U.S. government.

Frequently wagging a finger to make a point, he spoke with a rifle displayed in the background. "I tell both the Republicans and Democrats . . . you try to negotiate with certain parties to secure your departure, although the parties don't have a way out for you" from Iraq. "You shall come back -- Allah permitting -- with no other choice but to negotiate with the real powers," an apparent reference to al-Qaeda's wing in Iraq.

U.K.: 'Highly likely'
Zawahiri's remarks followed a raft of general warnings by authorities in Britain, France and Germany that major attacks might be coming. They have given no specifics.

Last week, British Home Secretary John Reid declared that an attempted terrorist strike in his country was "highly likely" over the Christmas and New Year's holidays. There has not been a major terrorist attack in Europe since the July 7, 2005, bombings in London. But European counterterrorism officials have disrupted dozens of attempts since then and have far more suspected radicals under surveillance now than at any point since the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackings in the United States.

In November, the director general of Britain's MI5 intelligence service, Eliza Manningham-Buller, said the agency was tracking more than 1,600 members of suspected terrorist cells, more than triple the number under surveillance three years ago. Manningham-Buller, who rarely speaks in public, said investigators were monitoring about 30 major terrorism plots in the planning stages.

"The threat has really proliferated," said M.J. Gohel, chief executive of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a London-based security research organization. "One of the reasons why Western intelligence and counterterrorism officials are so concerned is because they have unraveled so many plots involving so many different independent cells."

Other European countries have been on heightened alert. Spanish investigators broke up a cell of Islamic militants last week that was allegedly plotting attacks on an arms depot and a supermarket.

On Friday, Germany's chief federal prosecutor, Monika Harms, said that "the threat posed by Islamist terrorism must not be underestimated" in that country, citing an alleged plot to blow up regional trains with suitcase bombs in July and a separate scheme to smuggle explosives onto an Israeli airliner at the Frankfurt airport.

French worries
Intelligence officials and analysts said the number of European Muslims who have become radicalized has escalated in recent years, especially since the Iraq invasion and the wars in Lebanon and Afghanistan. But they also cited factors closer to home, including rising anger among immigrants and later-generation Muslims who feel marginalized in European society.

Zawahiri's recent remarks have particularly concerned French counterterrorism officials. They have warned of a heightened risk of attacks because of a newly declared alliance between al-Qaeda and an Algerian-based network, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat, which has developed an extensive collection of cells in France and elsewhere in Europe.

In September, Zawahiri announced the formation of the partnership and urged the Algerian network to become "a dagger in the hearts of the French traitors and apostates." On Wednesday, he repeated the command, predicting that the Algerians would soon defeat the "secularist sons of France."

French officials said this week that they have arrested 76 suspected members of the Algerian network since June 2005 in connection with three separate plots, including alleged plans to bomb the Paris subway and Orly airport.

Jean-Louis Bruguiere, France's chief anti-terrorism judge, said that France had become "the main target" of the Algerian group and that the risk of attacks had increased over the past six months. "We consider the threat level to be very high," he said in an interview published Wednesday by the International Herald Tribune. "What is new is that this organization has formally pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda."

In his statement, Zawahiri also criticized the radical Palestinian movement Hamas for taking part in elections in January and failing to insist on an Islamic constitution. In earlier messages, he has called on Islamic fighters to go to the Palestinian territories to fight alongside Hamas.

Yeah, I heard about this too, all of the western european intelligence agencies are on the fritz, probably with good reason too. I hope it's not on World Trade Center scale.

Don't worry, the vast majority of the followers of Islam are really peaceful people. I'm sure they will put a stop to any violent actions that their misguided brethren have in mind.

Yeah, this big fucker flies this un-airworthy vehicle at relativistic speeds, breaks in everywhere, and leaves hazardous, obesity-causing food and dangerous "toys" all over the shop to DESTROY OUR YOUTH!

I'm glad they're reminding people of this. It happens every year, but it still has to be said.

France has done plenty that Islamic Terrorists can complain about.
Namely, banning the wearing of headscarves in schools.

Yeah, this big fucker flies this un-airworthy vehicle at relativistic speeds, breaks in everywhere, and leaves hazardous, obesity-causing food and dangerous "toys" all over the shop to DESTROY OUR YOUTH!

I'm glad they're reminding people of this. It happens every year, but it still has to be said.

Thanks. I now have a mental image of Santa Clause and all his eight reindeer screaming "Allah Ahkbar!" as they fly an explosive toy laden sled into the Children's Cancer Ward of Cedars Sinai.

France has done plenty that Islamic Terrorists can complain about.
Namely, banning the wearing of headscarves in schools.

Oh, that's definitely worth killing people over.... :rolleyes:

France has done plenty that Islamic Terrorists can complain about.
Namely, banning the wearing of headscarves in schools.

You're right. We should slaughter french children to teach them a lesson. :)

Thanks. I now have a mental image of Santa Clause and all his eight reindeer screaming "Allah Ahkbar!" as they fly an explosive toy laden sled into the Children's Cancer Ward of Cedars Sinai.

Just doing m'job :)

Just doing m'job :)

The only thing to remember about reindeer is that you shouldn't stand underneath as they fly by.

The only thing to remember about reindeer is that you shouldn't stand underneath as they fly by.

What is the KE of reindeer droppings falling with a relativistic-speed vector, anyway?

What is the KE of reindeer droppings falling with a relativistic-speed vector, anyway?

Well, now that Santa has become an Islamist he may feed lead pellets to his reindeer to increase their mass so it would depend on the density he feeds them to his reindeer. If he force feeds them lead the KE will be a lot higher than if he just sprinkles their food with. Either way, expect a lot of ballistic reindeer shit to be dropping right through people's roofs this Christmas.

It seems that terrorist attacks never happen when there are warnings, and always happen when there are none.

Don't worry, the vast majority of the followers of Islam are really peaceful people. I'm sure they will put a stop to any violent actions that their misguided brethren have in mind.
The first sentence is true, the second is naively wishful.

I don't know if terrorist attacks are likely or not in western europe. I would however, suggest that it's probably not wise to push things there. Europe is, in many ways, a sleeping giant.

Europe is, in many ways, a sleeping giant.
Which I would prefer to keep asleep. It's not a giant known for particularly sensible conduct when awake.

As for the OP, here's my response: 'meh'.

The only people who should really spend time worrying about stories like this are the police and domestic intelligence agencies. And maybe the emergency services.

I'm sure they will put a stop to any violent actions that their misguided brethren have in mind.

As we are all aware, Muslims communicate with each other telepathically. I just thought I'd clarify that point for you, Myrmidonisia, because it looks ludicrous without context.

And here we are complaining about our illegal immigration problems. Poor France and Germany. They didn't even support the Iraq war and Spain has withdrawn all of its troops. Unlike what Lov of Allah seems to think, I guess you don't really need ta have any military presence in the Middle east to incur the wrath of the Jihadists. You just need to not be Muslim.Germany and France don't have a military presence in the Middle East? Did Lebanon stop being part of the Middle East?

I say that the terrorists ideal target are either Israel or America but they have the entire West and Free People in their sites. If you are not like them, you are a target. They hate the West, they hate any other religion that's not theirs, they just hate everybody but the ones who hold their extremist views.

Germany and France don't have a military presence in the Middle East? Did Lebanon stop being part of the Middle East?

There is no such place as Lebanon. It sounds too much like Neverland to be real.

Don't worry, the vast majority of the followers of Islam are really peaceful people. I'm sure they will put a stop to any violent actions that their misguided brethren have in mind.That's why the would be train bombers in Germany turned themselves in, actually.

That's why the would be train bombers in Germany turned themselves in, actually.

Telepathy 1-0 Spoken Language

Yeah, this big fucker flies this un-airworthy vehicle at relativistic speeds, breaks in everywhere, and leaves hazardous, obesity-causing food and dangerous "toys" all over the shop to DESTROY OUR YOUTH!

I'm glad they're reminding people of this. It happens every year, but it still has to be said.
LEAVES?!?
he takes food from starving kids... they save their milk and cookies and he just pops in and gobbles them up!

That's why the would be train bombers in Germany turned themselves in, actually.

What? I didn't hear anything about that..........

What? I didn't hear anything about that..........It happened during the time when the capture of JonBennet's alleged murderer gobbled up headline space. Clearly that was more important than a bungled terror attack on the German rail system that lead to the successful apprehension of the suspects, one of whom turned himself in in Lebanon after his parents pushed him to do so.

Germany and France don't have a military presence in the Middle East? Did Lebanon stop being part of the Middle East?

Got me. Forgot about that. Is Germany there, though? I know France has a presence, but I didn't know Germany did.

Got me. Forgot about that. Is Germany there, though? I know France has a presence, but I didn't know Germany did.German Navy is leading the coastal patrols. Then again, Germany is also patrolling the Horn of Africa and is present in Afghanistan.

Germany and France don't have a military presence in the Middle East? Did Lebanon stop being part of the Middle East?

The muslims should be THANKFUL about that one, they would be getting their asses handed to them by Israel.

It happened during the time when the capture of JonBennet's alleged murderer gobbled up headline space. Clearly that was more important than a bungled terror attack on the German rail system that lead to the successful apprehension of the suspects, one of whom turned himself in in Lebanon after his parents pushed him to do so.

Okay, one of them did. What's the point, though? He still planned and tried to execute a mass murder.

German Navy is leading the coastal patrols. Then again, Germany is also patrolling the Horn of Africa and is present in Afghanistan.

Germany has a navy? Where do they park their boats? :confused:

Which I would prefer to keep asleep. It's not a giant known for particularly sensible conduct when awake.


That was sort of my point.

I would like europe to become more of a nation though.

Germany has a navy? Where do they park their boats? :confused:

North coast.

North coast.

But it's frozen! :confused:


(should use the kidding tags)

The muslims should be THANKFUL about that one, they would be getting their asses handed to them by Israel.Not according to the Israelis and Hezbollah. It's clear who came victorious out of that one. Besides, it's not just Muslims that live in Lebanon.
Okay, one of them did. What's the point, though? He still planned and tried to execute a mass murder.The point was that the moderate muslims made him turn himself in and condemned it. The father saying that if he had done that he would no longer be his son was a very powerful statement.
Germany has a navy? Where do they park their boats? :confused:For the Lebanon mission in Cyprus.

Not according to the Israelis and Hezbollah. It's clear who came victorious out of that one. Besides, it's not just Muslims that live in Lebanon.

Hehehe, BULLSHIT. Israel CHOSE to pull out. If they really wanted, Lebanon would be like Dresden 1945.

The point was that the moderate muslims made him turn himself in and condemned it. The father saying that if he had done that he would no longer be his son was a very powerful statement.


and there should be more stories like that published. It shows people that there are Muslims working to stop the extremists. :)

Hehehe, BULLSHIT. Israel CHOSE to pull out. If they really wanted, Lebanon would be like Dresden 1945.Did you live under a rock during the time?

/me is willing to bet 5€ that this is used to again demand something unconstitutional by our politicians :(

non compliance with Islam is usually a good reason for them.

Didn't think it warranted its own thread, but with all this German Navy talk, I'd just make a note that apparently the Luftwaffe is moving out again. Government is trying to do something about NATO bitching, so they're looking to bypass parliament to deploy Tornados into southern Afghanistan.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,456013,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,456068,00.html

Didn't think it warranted its own thread, but with all this German Navy talk, I'd just make a note that apparently the Luftwaffe is moving out again. Government is trying to do something about NATO bitching, so they're looking to bypass parliament to deploy a Tornados into southern Afghanistan.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,456013,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,456068,00.html
Wieso bereuhe ich immer die Tage an denen ich mal ausnahmsweise keine Nachrichten gucke... *kopfschüttel*

Didn't think it warranted its own thread, but with all this German Navy talk, I'd just make a note that apparently the Luftwaffe is moving out again. Government is trying to do something about NATO bitching, so they're looking to bypass parliament to deploy Tornados into southern Afghanistan.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,456013,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,456068,00.html

Heh. The Germans plus the UK. If they were fighting the french it would be like old times.

And here we are complaining about our illegal immigration problems. Poor France and Germany. They didn't even support the Iraq war and Spain has withdrawn all of its troops. Unlike what Lov of Allah seems to think, I guess you don't really need ta have any military presence in the Middle east to incur the wrath of the Jihadists. You just need to not be Muslim.

I think an HL Mencken quote is appropriate. "The entire aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and thus clamorous to be lead to safety), by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary."

France has done plenty that Islamic Terrorists can complain about.
Namely, banning the wearing of headscarves in schools.

Strangely we don't hear much from those Jewish and Sikh terrorists complaining about how they are banned from wearing skullcaps and turbans.:confused:

What is the KE of reindeer droppings falling with a relativistic-speed vector, anyway?

Well, now that Santa has become an Islamist he may feed lead pellets to his reindeer to increase their mass so it would depend on the density he feeds them to his reindeer. If he force feeds them lead the KE will be a lot higher than if he just sprinkles their food with. Either way, expect a lot of ballistic reindeer shit to be dropping right through people's roofs this Christmas.

Of course Islamist Santa would force feed them lead, what with westerners planning to drop cow shit laced with Psilocybe cubensis spores on "his" people (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511672)...

Thanks. I now have a mental image of Santa Clause and all his eight reindeer screaming "Allah Ahkbar!" as they fly an explosive toy laden sled into the Children's Cancer Ward of Cedars Sinai.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!:D

I haven't touched physics for a decade, but this is way too fun to resist:

ASSUMPTIONS:
Santa Claus is a fat but relatively fit, very merry religious radical with a mass of 80kg.

His 9 reindeer, the original 8 plus Rudolph, are Scandinavian in origin, with five males and four females, with a mean mass of 90kg.

His sleigh, fully loaded with toy giraffes, train sets, anthrax, etc, has the same mass as a
1996 Harley Davidson XL1200S Sportster (http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcharley/96_xl1200.html): approx 225 kg.

Therefore, this gives a total mass of (80 + 810 + 225) = 1115Kg.
The maximum speed that his R8 sleigh can attain is Mach 5: 1700 m/s

KE = mv²/2
= 1115 x 1700² / 2
= 1,611,175,000 J
= approx 385,000kg of TNT


Suppose Santa has a pair of semi-automatic dart pistols that he can use to fire crack-loaded syringes into the butts of his reindeer, which gives him a sleigh-flattening speed boost of up to three quarters the speed of light.


At the relativistic level, KE is given by the formula:

KE = {mc²/²√[1-(v/c)²]} - mc²
= {mc²/²√[1-(9/16)]} - mc²
= {mc²/²√[7/16]} - mc²
= mc²{1/²√[7/16] - 1}
= 0.513mc²
= 0.513 x 1115 x 299,792,458²
= 51,408,346,846,156,600,599J
or 51 EJ (Exajoules)

Assuming that 1 Little Boy has the equivalent of 14.5 kilotons of TNT,
this approximates to about 840,000 Hiroshimas.

You guys crack me up. Happy holidays!

I certainly hope there are no attacks and that the holidays are peaceful.

It doesnt make any sense for tehm to attack anyone other than the US.

When they hit the US, the rest of the world shrugs and says we deserve it and we had it coming.

If they hit France or Germany-that might serve to put those countries back on our side.

They are much better off trying to keep the US isolated.

European countries have been subjected to terrorist attacks for many many years from one group or another - The Red Brigade, ETA etc.

In the UK we were subjected to routine attacks by the IRA for years (thanks to the citizens of the Good Ol' US of A for funding the IRA by the way - not so "romantic" when you are on the receiving end of terrorism is it? But, that's for a different thread). Why should the current threats of terrorism be any different? It won't stop us doing what we normally do in the UK - Besides all the hysteria is being drummed up by the media and politicians looking for a chance to make political capital out of it all.

Don't worry, the vast majority of the followers of Islam are really peaceful people. I'm sure they will put a stop to any violent actions that their misguided brethren have in mind.

Thats really nice. In fact, its sickeningly so. Not to mention its being as far off the mark as possible. Frankly, in the event of another Islamic attack upon Britain, I'd deport as many Muslims as possible, shoot every associate of the bombers, and generally get nasty.

Thats really nice. In fact, its sickeningly so. Not to mention its being as far off the mark as possible. Frankly, in the event of another Islamic attack upon Britain, I'd deport as many Muslims as possible, shoot every associate of the bombers, and generally get nasty.
Completely impractical, even if it were at all justifiable.

Highly likely that a terrorist attack will happen? Hmm... I'll be taking bets that a terrorist attack happens. 10-1 let's say?

If a terrorist attack does happen and it's not a suicide attack then you will have to wait until the police have drawn up a list of suspects. If are among those on the suspect list then you may not collect your winnings.

Completely impractical, even if it were at all justifiable.

But damn amusing, and desirable.

Highly likely that a terrorist attack will happen? Hmm... I'll be taking bets that a terrorist attack happens. 10-1 let's say?

If a terrorist attack does happen and it's not a suicide attack then you will have to wait until the police have drawn up a list of suspects. If are among those on the suspect list then you may not collect your winnings.

Any other odds on casualty figures?

Any other odds on casualty figures?Hey, I only just thought of the idea. Gimme a break. I dunno, maybe a 1000 to 1 if the casualty figures exceed that of July 12th?

edit: odds that the government uses the holiday season and the terror alert to brush a scandal under the carpet - 6 to 7

Completely impractical, even if it were at all justifiable.

How's it impractical?

Apart from the mosques closing, would anyone really notice? (Well except the penine towns wouldn't be so shitty anymore).

How's it impractical?
Muslims with British nationality? You can't just herd them onto aeroplanes and dump them in Bangladesh, Pakistan or Jordan and strip them of British nationality.

Apart from the mosques closing, would anyone really notice? (Well except the penine towns wouldn't be so shitty anymore).
Well, a few of my mates would disappear. (Including one at Oxford university.) My doctor would disappear. A few teachers at my 6th Form would disappear. My previous dentist would disappear. I assume plenty of behind the scenes low wage jobs would disappear.

Good enough?

Well, a few of my mates would disappear. (Including one at Oxford university.) My doctor would disappear. A few teachers at my 6th Form would disappear. My previous dentist would disappear. I assume plenty of behind the scenes low wage jobs would disappear.


How do you know your doctor's a muslim? Do you sit there and chinwag about the koran?

Anyway, you could give people a chance to renounce islam. It wouldn't be the first time for religious persectution in England.

How do you know your doctor's a muslim? Do you sit there and chinwag about the koran?

Anyway, you could give people a chance to renounce islam. It wouldn't be the first time for religious persectution in England.

Need I mention the HUAC?

Anyway, youd see a very sudden and MASSIVE population drop around here. Most of the small shops are hindu-owned but they'd be fucked with no muslims around to use 'em.

Plus you'd end up deporting my old English teacher and she had it bad enough with my class without chucking her out of the country to go with it...

cant deport them there wiould be no one really to run my town hospital

How do you know your doctor's a muslim? Do you sit there and chinwag about the koran?
Since they all are from predominantly Muslim countries, It's a safe bet. Apart from one, who told my dad while chatting.

Anyway, you could give people a chance to renounce islam. It wouldn't be the first time for religious persectution in England.
Does that make it right?

Highly likely that a terrorist attack will happen? Hmm... I'll be taking bets that a terrorist attack happens. 10-1 let's say?


Not taking bets, but we'll see and hope for the best.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/12/london_braces_f.html
British intelligence and law enforcement officials have passed on a grim assessment to their U.S. counterparts, "It will be a miracle if there isn't a terror attack over the holidays in London," a senior American law enforcement official tells ABCNews.com.

British police have been quietly carrying out a series of key arrests as they continue to track at least six active "plots" tied to what they call "al Qaeda of England."

Not taking bets, but we'll see and hope for the best.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/12/london_braces_f.html

Oh, and look, it's Xmas, a time of miracles. Excuse my pessimism/optomism.

When they hit the US, the rest of the world shrugs and says we deserve it and we had it coming.
Well, that's never happened before.

If they hit France or Germany-that might serve to put those countries back on our side.
That didn't work for Spain because, basically, America is doing the wrong thing.

Anyway, you could give people a chance to renounce islam. It wouldn't be the first time for religious persectution in England.
You can't (effectively) make people renounce their religion. They would continue in secret.

I certainly hope there are no attacks and that the holidays are peaceful.Me too.
When they hit the US, the rest of the world shrugs and says we deserve it and we had it coming.It saddens me that my fellow Americans forget so quickly :(
If they hit France or Germany-that might serve to put those countries back on our side.Funny. Are Germany and France opposed to the United States? Why are they fighting the war on terror then?

I hope its France.:D

That didn't work for Spain because, basically, America is doing the wrong thing.

Spain had a way to appease the muslims; pulling out of Iraq. France and Germany haven't done anything wrong, so they'll either appease hardcore, or they'll turn to the US.

Spain had a way to appease the muslims; pulling out of Iraq.
:rolleyes:

Okay, here is the deal. A bomb explodes at Flinders Station. 300 people die.

Howard comes out the same day and says it was Muslim Extremists. During the investigations it turns out it was actually, say, Aum Shinrikyo.

It also happens to be the week of the elections, and people vote for Rudd rather than Howard.

Did the Australian people appease Aum Shinrikyo?

And don't bring Iraq into this, it was always the policy of the opposition to pull out of there, they were against it even before the war started.

Did the Australian people appease Aum Shinrikyo?

No, they appeased the muslims. They thought they did, anyway.

And don't bring Iraq into this, it was always the policy of the opposition to pull out of there, they were against it even before the war started.

And who VOTED for the opposition?

Very likely, I would say. And legitimate, given the ongoing state of occupation and oppression under which Moslems suffer.

Allahu Akhbar

Very likely, I would say. And legitimate, given the ongoing state of occupation and oppression under which Moslems suffer.

Allahu Akhbar

Oppression? In Germany and France? Where?

There is no such thing as a legitimate terror attack. You wanna fight? Fucking come fight.

Why does everybody think that an attack will happen during the holidays? Put it like this. If you were a terrorist, would you attack when everybody expects it and the security is bigger than normal or when noone sees it coming?

No, they appeased the muslims. They thought they did, anyway.
Excuse me, I thought I posted something there. But you must have overlooked it.

Terror attack occured, government lied to the people about who did it. People didn't think that was particularly flash by the government, and kicked it out of office.

Not that hard to understand, is it?

And who VOTED for the opposition?
Well, there obviously was the majority of Spaniards who hated the idea of being in Iraq in the first place.

Then there's the people who preferred the Social Democrats' domestic policies, of course.

And then there's the whole lot of people who didn't like the idea of the government lying about who attacked the Madrid subway.

Very likely, I would say. And legitimate, given the ongoing state of occupation and oppression under which Moslems suffer.



Much of the oppression inflicted by muslim rulers dont forget

Scene: Nameless Islamic country
<Lackey> Mr. President, Saddam is slaughtering hundreds of our fellow muslims!
<President> Ok this calls for some radical action............. Instruct the TV stations to play "Death to Israel and the west" for an extra 10 minutes tonight

Satire mode off

In europe 'minor' terrorist attacks (eg 7-7 bombings ) or the Xmas market bombing attempt in 2000, without really a lot of notice, some politicians would come out and say platitudes, the population would slowly fall back asleep,
However an attack that kills more than say 2500 people would start driving the population to the right :( , repeated attacks would drive the population further right and muslims would start to flee europe, more attacks would raise the spectre of a far right party getting hold of power :eek:
As finally the terrorists who follow a twisted and evil version of Islam would get their way of war between "The West" and Islamic countries.
And we have large numbers of nukes:D

Oh, cool, so this means that when nothing of the sort happens, we can be utterly loyal to our states.

Yes! Get in there!

Why does everybody think that an attack will happen during the holidays? Put it like this. If you were a terrorist, would you attack when everybody expects it and the security is bigger than normal or when noone sees it coming?

When everybody expects it. Right in your infidel faces.

When everybody expects it. Right in your infidel faces.
http://www.schildersmilies.de/noschild/laughoutloud.gif

Look, the appeal of a good troll puppet is that they propose ridiculous viewpoints in a convincing fashion. Work on that, and you could have a future.

When everybody expects it. Right in your infidel faces.

Christ.

An actual original troll that has such possibilities.

And you waste it like this.

It's a goddamn tragedy, is what it is...

Spain had a way to appease the muslims; pulling out of Iraq. France and Germany haven't done anything wrong, so they'll either appease hardcore, or they'll turn to the US.
Stop talking out of your ass. You live in Australia. You know jack shit about what people in Europe think.

Fact is, Spanish people were always against the Iraq war and wanted nothing to do with it. Aznar's downfall was his own fault.

Very likely, I would say. And legitimate, given the ongoing state of occupation and oppression under which Moslems suffer.
"Moslems" in the west are not oppressed. Muslims in the Middle East are mostly oppressed by other Muslims.

Oh, that's definitely worth killing people over.... :rolleyes:


Well obviously! We've fought wars for more worse crap than this, this only makes headlines because it's not the worst reason to fight a war, it's the stupidest.

wrath of the Jihadists. You just need to not be Muslim.

Bullshit. They blow up plenty of muslims. The only thing they do is "We no like you, you die"

Just like the neocons, actually.

Anyone wanna bet that LoA is Soviestan? Or is meant to be a parody of soviestan?