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a quarter of a century........

Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 15:51
as of about 10 minutes ago I am officially a quarter of a century old.

nobody is home to tell my happy birthday :eek: everything is quiet here.

my dog did kill a bird this morning and left it on the deck as a present......stupid dog.


so, I am nowhere near where I thought I would be in life at 25, in fact we had an assignment in elementary school of "where will you be when you are 25?" and I found it last year in a box in my parent's garage and boy am I way off track (or I was really weird when I was 9.......either way)

so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?


my grade school assignment

When I am 25 I will still be in college, studying medicine. I will not be married and I will have no kids. I will have a cat named Murry and he will be a Maine Coon. I will live in a studio apartment and drive a classic car.

real life

I am 25 and I am about to start college again, studying social sciences. I am married, I have 2 kids. I have a dog named Buddy and he is a mutt. I live in a 3 bedroom ranch style house and drive an old beat up Jeep that I am currently trying to restore to it's former glory
Khadgar
21-12-2006, 15:53
Hell I figured you were atleast 30. You seem quite mature. I'm older than you! (26)

Oh yeah happy birthday. I don't go into the birthday hoopla, but congrats on out running the Reaper another year.
The Blaatschapen
21-12-2006, 15:54
Well, since I'm already 22 it means that it's just 3 years in the future :eek:

So I think I'll be: Finishing my masters, and well, um.. I can't think of anything else :( My future is ruined, noooo :eek: :p
Bodies Without Organs
21-12-2006, 15:54
nobody is home to tell my happy birthday :eek: everything is quiet here.

You're the birthday/you're the birthday/you're the birthday/girl or boy.
Andaluciae
21-12-2006, 15:55
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around being 21.
Bottle
21-12-2006, 15:56
as of about 10 minutes ago I am officially a quarter of a century old.

!!!!

Okay, I must admit I am surprised. I assumed you were a lot older than that, what with you having two kids and all.
Mogtaria
21-12-2006, 15:56
Whoa, Happy Birthday Smunkee. I hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me but from your posts I had pegged you as older than 25, but not ancient :) just closer to my age. Many Happy Returns and may the next year treat you well :).
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 15:56
Hell I figured you were atleast 30. You seem quite mature. I'm older than you! (26)

Oh yeah happy birthday. I don't go into the birthday hoopla, but congrats on out running the Reaper another year.

I started the grown up stuff at 15 when I got kicked out of my house and was homeless for a while......it always confuses people that I am only 25, IRL most people guess 30-35 only it confuses them that I look so young.
Khadgar
21-12-2006, 15:57
!!!!

Okay, I must admit I am surprised. I assumed you were a lot older than that, what with you having two kids and all.

She just seemed older than that, probably due to her method of her posts. I knew a guy who had three kids at 21, first at 15. Divorce by 22.
Bottle
21-12-2006, 15:58
so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't)

Hopefully I will still be in grad school, still plugging away at this &%$#ing thesis, and still living in a modest-yet-comfortable apartment with my lover. Hopefully I will not have a car or any children, and I will remain unmarried.

Oddly enough, I'm probably going to be exactly where I thought I would be. I've known that I was going to grad school since I was 18 months old (I'm not even exagerating here). I've known that I wouldn't even remotely consider having kids until finished with school, nor would I seriously consider marriage until my own life was fairly well established, so that pretty much took care of my life up until at least age 30.

The weird thing is that I've always felt like I lacked direction. I feel like I've never had a very clear idea of where I was headed, or what I wanted to be, or what I wanted to do with my life. But, as it turns out, I seem to have had a very good idea of what was in store for myself. At least up until age 25. :D
Imperial isa
21-12-2006, 15:59
next year 24 then 25 if i live that long
Czardas
21-12-2006, 15:59
YAY I'M THE FIRST PERSON SO FAR NOT TO BE SURPRISED!


and... happy birthday and stuff.
Mogtaria
21-12-2006, 15:59
Oh and I thought I'd be married with my degree done by 25. Todate I have missed that mark by 10 years. Though I got close on the married bit, was engaged and I have a wonderful 5 year old son who has lived with me for the last 4 years.
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:01
and to answer the other question... I honestly don't give a shit where I end up when I'm 25, as long as I'm not dead, mentally/physically incapacitated, or in a relationship. (Can anyone who doesn't already know guess how old I am now based on that? :p)
Isidoor
21-12-2006, 16:02
i'm eighteen years, and i just started studying medicine, i don't want to marry and have kids, i will probably live in a studio appartment when i'm 25, and if i'll have a car it will probably be a classic (and by classic i mean second hand ;)). i don't think i will have pets, but you never know.

so in short, i am everything you dreamed of as a nine years old girl (i'm male, but thats not really important)

happy birthday by the way.
Compulsive Depression
21-12-2006, 16:03
Happy Birthday, Kiddo ;)

I'm surprised so few people knew how young you were.
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 16:03
I'm 24 and started university about a year ago... and dude, being 25 and married with children... that's too much... better get married in my early 30s... first have a solid financial source

But than again, I had 3 years of my life spent on compulsory army service ~_~
Bodies Without Organs
21-12-2006, 16:04
Me at 25:

Living in a shared house with an assortment of other students, the terminally unemployed and other ne'erdowells. Finishing off my last year of my undergraduate degree. Unmarried, but in a relationship. No pets, but I have been adopted by one of the house cats as a thing to sleep on. Infrequent work doing sound for bands for nominal amounts of money. Primary form of transport: Converse baseball boots.

Me just about to hit 35:

Living alone. A BA and an MA under my belt. Single. Acquired a cat from somewhere who has adopted me as a thing to sleep on and next to. Frequent work doing sound for bands for slightly less nominal amounts of money. Primary forms of transport: ludicrously cheap Chinese made trainers and a car that has been loaned to me.

Ah, but am I happy? Yup.
Pompous world
21-12-2006, 16:05
wow thats me in uh 4 years!

whether what I will be in 4 years is determined or a computational outcome is a matter for conjecture. So I dont know what I will be doing or what I expect to be doing.
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:07
I'm 24 and started university about a year ago... and dude, being 25 and married with children... that's too much... better get married in my early 30s... first have a solid financial source

But than again, I had 3 years of my life spent on compulsory army service ~_~

when you find the one you want you tend to hang on to them;)

and both of the kids were........surprises, I did my part, he did his part, but apparently God or nature or whatever thought that I needed kids.

It hasn't been all bad.......they seem to like me. :p
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:08
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around being 21.
20 is more of a shock. I'm no longer a teen. :D :(

Bon anniversaire to the birthday girl... well, woman.
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:09
when you find the one you want you tend to hang on to them;)

Well, sure, but that doesn't mean you want to MARRY them!

I mean, I love him and all, but marriage would mean that he gets half of my stuff. MY STUFF. Do you even know how many videogames I've got?!
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:10
Well, sure, but that doesn't mean you want to MARRY them!

I mean, I love him and all, but marriage would mean that he gets half of my stuff. MY STUFF. Do you even know how many videogames I've got?!

ah, but this isn't the "I really love him" thing, this is the "I really love him and I want to spend the rest of my life with him" thing.
Imperial isa
21-12-2006, 16:10
Well, sure, but that doesn't mean you want to MARRY them!

I mean, I love him and all, but marriage would mean that he gets half of my stuff. MY STUFF. Do you even know how many videogames I've got?!

let me guess heaps
Compulsive Depression
21-12-2006, 16:11
Well, sure, but that doesn't mean you want to MARRY them!

I mean, I love him and all, but marriage would mean that he gets half of my stuff. MY STUFF. Do you even know how many videogames I've got?!

More important: Half the computer hardware! Worst comes to the worst you can pirate the games, but hardware you have to buy!
Imperial isa
21-12-2006, 16:12
More important: Half the computer hardware! Worst comes to the worst you can pirate the games, but hardware you have to buy!

thats a good point
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:13
ah, but this isn't the "I really love him" thing, this is the "I really love him and I want to spend the rest of my life with him" thing.
I wouldn't want to spend my life with anybody who'd agree to marry me. That kind of sicko could be dangerous!
Extreme Ironing
21-12-2006, 16:13
Happy Birthday! I think a singsong is in order. *starts conducting, everyone fails to come in...*
Anti-Social Darwinism
21-12-2006, 16:14
as of about 10 minutes ago I am officially a quarter of a century old.

nobody is home to tell my happy birthday :eek: everything is quiet here.

my dog did kill a bird this morning and left it on the deck as a present......stupid dog.


so, I am nowhere near where I thought I would be in life at 25, in fact we had an assignment in elementary school of "where will you be when you are 25?" and I found it last year in a box in my parent's garage and boy am I way off track (or I was really weird when I was 9.......either way)

so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?


my grade school assignment



real life

Happy birthday. Congratulations on being where you are, it's not a bad place, especially if you have a good husband. And since, obviously, it's where you are supposed to be, make the most of it.

Very few, if any, people are where they thought they would be at any given time. When I was 25, I was married to a man whose whole life revolved around himself, I had two children, no car and no drivers license, a retarded calico cat named patches and I lived in a rented dump in Holtville, CA (flying cockroaches, locusts and a distinctive unpleasant smell of moldering stockyard and bad water) - certainly not where I had anticipated being at 25. I'm 59 now and still not where I had thought I would be - divorced, grown children, retired and living in a townhome in Colorado Springs.
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:15
I never saw the point of marriage. If you really want to go and live with somebody, do so -- why bother to sign a legally binding document and all that other stuff? What if you want to leave and don't have the money for a divorce? What if you want to leave but the other person doesn't agree to a divorce? And what's the point of getting married in the first place; aside from being able to file a single tax form, which I think you can do anyway if unmarried (Single Filing Jointly or something), there's not much of an advantage. If you want to hold a religious ceremony to celebrate getting together with someone, you don't have to sign legal documents to do that, either.
Vorlich
21-12-2006, 16:15
happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you haaappppieeee birthday dear Smunkeeville. happy birthday to you.

i'm 26 only just realised what exactly i want to do as a career (luckily i have the relevant qualifications), getting myself sorted with experience then it'll be go go go with the career sorted.

i have the man of my dreams (since i was 18 and a half) we don't live together yet, but that'll happen sometime soonish. maybe next year/year after.

although i didn't have a life plan when younger, i knoew i wouldn't be married or have kids until later in life. my mother installed that in me from a very young age.

25 is strange. you feel like you should have already achieved so much in comparison to what you have. but that's just silly. i've done a lot of travelling and learning and relationship building and i know who i am (now).

that in itself takes 25 years!.

have a fabby birthday
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:15
I wouldn't want to spend my life with anybody who'd agree to marry me. That kind of sicko could be dangerous!
If you're like me, you might be into slightly psychopathic guys, in which case such an arrangement would be perfect - on the precondition that he is goodlooking too. :)
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:15
I wouldn't want to spend my life with anybody who'd agree to marry me. That kind of sicko could be dangerous!

you know...I had that exact same thought about a third of the way through both pregnancies "he is either stupid or crazy to hang around with me, all I do is nag and puke and bitch and send him out for chocolate"

:p
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:18
ah, but this isn't the "I really love him" thing, this is the "I really love him and I want to spend the rest of my life with him" thing.

If you need to legally bind someone to yourself in order to get them to spend the rest of their life with you, it's a good sign that you're in the wrong kind of relationship.

As though there's a right kind, but I won't go into that here.
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:19
I never saw the point of marriage. If you really want to go and live with somebody, do so -- why bother to sign a legally binding document and all that other stuff? What if you want to leave and don't have the money for a divorce? What if you want to leave but the other person doesn't agree to a divorce? And what's the point of getting married in the first place; aside from being able to file a single tax form, which I think you can do anyway if unmarried (Single Filing Jointly or something), there's not much of an advantage. If you want to hold a religious ceremony to celebrate getting together with someone, you don't have to sign legal documents to do that, either.

other than the "I want to spend the rest of my life with him" stuff it makes more financial sense, especially now that we have kids, and a plus is I got to choose who my "pull the plug" person is.......I know there are other ways of getting that taken away from family, but then you don't get to wear a dress. ;)
Bodies Without Organs
21-12-2006, 16:19
you know...I had that exact same thought about a third of the way through both pregnancies "he is either stupid or crazy to hang around with me, all I do is nag and puke and bitch and send him out for chocolate"

:p

So whenever you're up the duff you turn into Groucho Marx*? Cool.



* "I wouldn't want to join any club...."
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:20
If you need to legally bind someone to yourself in order to get them to spend the rest of their life with you, it's a good sign that you're in the wrong kind of relationship.

As though there's a right kind, but I won't go into that here.

need to and want to are two different things.
Imperial isa
21-12-2006, 16:20
by 25 i hope i don't see Iraq if i get in the army
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-12-2006, 16:20
What if you want to leave and don't have the money for a divorce? What if you want to leave but the other person doesn't agree to a divorce?

I would hope (but not actually expect) that people getting married don't create contingency plans for when they've had enough. Seems to be rather against the point.
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:20
If you need to legally bind someone to yourself in order to get them to spend the rest of their life with you, it's a good sign that you're in the wrong kind of relationship.

I always thought it was supposed to work the other way around; first you find somebody who you want to spend your life with, and who is prepared to spend their life with you, and then once you've got that you are in the position to start thinking about whether or not you want to get married.

For me, the "wanting to spend lives together" is just one of the most fundamental requirements to start the conversation about marriage. It's necessary but not sufficient, in other words.

That's why I knew I wouldn't be married by 25. I knew that I wouldn't even have figured out if I was going to want to spend my life with ANYBODY by the age of 25, so I couldn't honestly promise that sort of thing to any partner I might have. No matter how terrific he/she might be.
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 16:20
Damn kids... :p

Happy birthday, Smunk!
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:21
If you need to legally bind someone to yourself in order to get them to spend the rest of their life with you, it's a good sign that you're in the wrong kind of relationship.
How cynical. :confused:
Chandelier
21-12-2006, 16:22
so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?


Happy birthday.:)

When I'm 25 (still a long time from now; I'll turn 25 in 8 years, 1 month, and 1 day), I will probably be in grad school studying some sort of science (probably chemistry, but possibly something else.) I won't be married and I won't have any kids, and I'll be driving my Dad's old Toyota Camry (if it doesn't break between now and then).:)

When I was maybe three years old, my dream was to drive an ice-cream truck.:)
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:22
How cynical. :confused:
How so?
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:23
How so?
I am very demanding in what I want from a guy - if I were to find the right one, it'd be unlikely that I'd simply want to let him go. The only thing that puts me off the whole idea is that eventually you both get old, as shallow as that may be... So although I do question most such unions in general, I'm not against the idea of it.
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:24
Happy birthday.:)

When I'm 25 (still a long time from now; I'll turn 25 in 8 years, 1 month, and 1 day), I will probably be in grad school studying some sort of science (probably chemistry, but possibly something else.) I won't be married and I won't have any kids, and I'll be driving my Dad's old Toyota Camry (if it doesn't break between now and then).:)

When I was maybe three years old, my dream was to drive an ice-cream truck.:)
Yay for physical science grad students!!!

But I advise you to avoid Chemistry. Bunch of stuck up jerks, always lording it over me with their smug grasp of electron orbits and nomenclature...
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:26
I am very demanding in what I want from a guy - if I were to find the right one, it'd be unlikely that I'd simply want to let him go. The only thing that puts me off the whole idea is that eventually you both get old, as shallow as that may be... So although I do question most such unions in general, I'm not against the idea of it.

on the bright side it's free sex in your 80's, your spouse already likes you enough, you don't have to try to make it on your good looks (which most of us won't have when we are 80 anyway.)
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:26
I am very demanding in what I want from a guy - if I were to find the right one, it'd be unlikely that I'd simply want to let him go.

But (I think) Czardas' point was that you shouldn't have to choose between "get married" and "let him go."


The only thing that puts me off the whole idea is that eventually you both get old, as shallow as that may be... So although I do question most such unions in general, I'm not against the idea of it.
You're gonna get old no matter what, so you might as well do it in good company! :D
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:26
Well, I'm sure all of you have your own reasons, I just don't see it as making any sense. It seems kind of redundant.

Personally, if I were ever in a position in which I would want to spend the rest of my life with someone, which won't happen but that's beside the point, I likely wouldn't get married anyway, simply because there isn't really a point to it, in my view.
How cynical. :confused:

Yes, because I never act cynical at any other time.
Mogtaria
21-12-2006, 16:28
Hey come on :) let's not spoil Smunkee's birthday thread with arguments over the "meaning of marriage", start a new one if its going to be a good debate :).
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:29
Hey come on :) let's not spoil Smunkee's birthday thread with arguments over the "meaning of marriage", start a new one if its going to be a good debate :).

*dances*


oh, and it's not a thread about my birthday.........well, not only, it's about uh......wondering where you guys think you should be or where you were or something, this whole 25 thing is irking me.
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:31
Yay for physical science grad students!!!

But I advise you to avoid Chemistry. Bunch of stuck up jerks, always lording it over me with their smug grasp of electron orbits and nomenclature...

Agreed, particle/theoretical physics >>>>> chemistry. I like the idea of discovering fundamental particles, but maybe that's just me. I suppose biochemical and bioneural research could also be interesting though. I'll likely either go into one of those, or acoustic technology, in university (or both).

You're gonna get old no matter what, so you might as well do it in good company! :D
So if you're living with someone you really do want to spend the rest of your life with, including old age, you will anyway. Why bother with marriage? If you weren't married it wouldn't make a bit of difference, and if you were and wanted to divorce you'd continue through old age alone. :confused:
Ashmoria
21-12-2006, 16:31
happy birthday! many happy returns! (whatever that means)

what a great illustration of why its better to give than to receivie...

the dog was probably very excited about your present.
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:32
Hey come on :) let's not spoil Smunkee's birthday thread with arguments over the "meaning of marriage", start a new one if its going to be a good debate :).

Aww, you're no fun. :(
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:32
Hey come on :) let's not spoil Smunkee's birthday thread with arguments over the "meaning of marriage", start a new one if its going to be a good debate :).
I dunno, I think it kind of fits with the theme of the thread.

I see it as a discussion on people's expectations for their future, and marriage is an important part of the future for many people.

I mean, Smunkee asked people to post where they hope they'd be at 25 (if they aren't there yet), so I immediately start wondering about WHY people want to end up where they say they do.

Some people say, "Boy, I sure hope I'm not married by then!" Other people say, "Boy, I hope I'm married by then!" I think it's cool to talk about both perspectives.
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:32
on the bright side it's free sex in your 80's, your spouse already likes you enough, you don't have to try to make it on your good looks (which most of us won't have when we are 80 anyway.)
Provided you're even functioning at that age. :)

But (I think) Czardas' point was that you shouldn't have to choose between "get married" and "let him go."
Well, to be honest civil unions in general are financial arrangements more than anything else. It seemed to me as though it was the concept of such a long relationship Czardas was against.

You're gonna get old no matter what, so you might as well do it in good company! :D
True - I am just hoping anti-ageing technology has evolved by leaps and bounds by then.


Personally, if I were ever in a position in which I would want to spend the rest of my life with someone, which won't happen but that's beside the point, I likely wouldn't get married anyway, simply because there isn't really a point to it, in my view.
Well, its main role is primarily as a financial arrangement I suppose, a form of insurance should the relationship falter. It's useful in that context.

Yes, because I never act cynical at any other time.
I wouldn't know. :)
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 16:33
When I'll be 25 (which will be in about half a year) I know that I'll be in the same situation now...
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:35
Hey come on :) let's not spoil Smunkee's birthday thread with arguments over the "meaning of marriage", start a new one if its going to be a good debate :).
She can consider the debate a birthday present in her honour. :D
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:35
Provided you're even functioning at that age. :)

:eek: of course I will be.............:( don't ruin my birthday with lies of what happens when you get old:mad:
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:36
So if you're living with someone you really do want to spend the rest of your life with, including old age, you will anyway. Why bother with marriage? If you weren't married it wouldn't make a bit of difference, and if you were and wanted to divorce you'd continue through old age alone. :confused:
In my country, legal marriage carries a lot of important rights and responsibilities. It's actually pretty complex, even though the process of becoming legally married is almost absurdly easy (for heterosexual couples).

At 25, my life will already be very complicated and distracting. I think it would be irresponsible of me to enter into a legal union when I know damn well that I won't have the time or energy to devote an appropriate amount of attention to figuring out said legal union.

But then, I'm a nerd. I am compelled to do extensive research on all important subjects in my life. I will need to have a comprehensive understanding of both federal and state laws regarding marriage before I sign any marriage license. And, at 25, I'm pretty sure that I will prefer to spend my time playing videogames, so that research is gonna get put off for a while. :D
Mogtaria
21-12-2006, 16:36
*dances*


oh, and it's not a thread about my birthday.........well, not only, it's about uh......wondering where you guys think you should be or where you were or something, this whole 25 thing is irking me.

If you're happy then I'm happy :). My plans are based on hitting 40 now. I don't think I'll have my degree because due to personal circumstances I have to start again from year one and this time I have to do it part time distance learning rather than at a university. I still hope to achieve the getting married bit one day.
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 16:36
She can consider the debate a birthday present in her honour. :D

Wouldn't she prefer something tangible?
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-12-2006, 16:36
So if you're living with someone you really do want to spend the rest of your life with, including old age, you will anyway. Why bother with marriage? If you weren't married it wouldn't make a bit of difference, and if you were and wanted to divorce you'd continue through old age alone. :confused:

I suppose it's just a formal indicator of that commitment. The ceremony and the rings and the name changes and all that stuff are a way of telling the world what you already know.

I expect I'll be married by 25 (19 now). No kids, although my wife might be pregnant.
Myrmidonisia
21-12-2006, 16:37
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around being 21.

It's damned hard until you get sober.
Go Bucks!
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 16:37
I suppose it's just a formal indicator of that commitment. The ceremony and the rings and the name changes and all that stuff are a way of telling the world what you already know.

I expect I'll be married by 25 (19 now). No kids, although my wife might be pregnant.


Assuming you're not shooting blanks. :p
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:37
Wouldn't she prefer something tangible?
Such as?
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:38
Well, to be honest civil unions in general are financial arrangements more than anything else. It seemed to me as though it was the concept of such a long relationship Czardas was against.

My partner came across a little tidbit of information that made us both chuckle:

If he and I continue to live together for another 9 years, we will become common-law married according to the laws of our state.

I would get such a kick out of that, because I'd throw a reception for all my friends and family to announce that, "It turns out we're married. Whoops!"

:D
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:38
Wouldn't she prefer something tangible?

like chocolate!:D
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 16:38
Well.... What 25 years old married women want? Spa?
Czardas
21-12-2006, 16:39
Well, to be honest civil unions in general are financial arrangements more than anything else. It seemed to me as though it was the concept of such a long relationship Czardas was against.
I'm not arguing against that, I can see why people would want one; my own personal view that all relationships are doomed and ultimately pointless is not relevant to the conversation at hand, and likely more to my own problems (come on, I'm allowed to have my own little post-adolescence crisis and try to figure out who I am, aren't I?).


Well, its main role is primarily as a financial arrangement I suppose, a form of insurance should the relationship falter. It's useful in that context.
... whatever... don't make much sense to me, but ignore me, I'm only an untrained padawan and have much to learn before I can become a full-fledged Jedi Master.


I wouldn't know. :)
n00b. :p
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-12-2006, 16:39
Assuming you're not shooting blanks. :p

Gee, thanks for that :p
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:39
Well.... What 25 years old married women want? Spa?
Woman want food. Go hunt mammoth.
Extreme Ironing
21-12-2006, 16:41
When I'm 25, I don't expect to be married, but that is based more on my expectation that noone in their right mind would want to spend that amount of time with me/have those feelings towards me, than not wanting to get married. It is a bit of an outdated institution, but is still considered the social norm. I think if I was in a relationship and the feeling of wanting to be with them always was mutual, then marriage wouldn't be necessary, but if my partner wanted to get married, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

In terms of work, I guess I'll have finished studying (I'm not thinking of doing anything else after undergrad currently), and will hopefully have decided what I want to do as a career. They tell me my degree (music) has lots of 'transferrable/life skills', but currently I have little idea what I want to do after finishing.
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:41
I'm not arguing against that, I can see why people would want one; my own personal view that all relationships are doomed and ultimately pointless is not relevant to the conversation at hand, and likely more to my own problems (come on, I'm allowed to have my own little post-adolescence crisis and try to figure out who I am, aren't I?).
That's my view too actually - I just try and throw in some optimism to conceal my overarching nihilism. :)

:eek: of course I will be.............:( don't ruin my birthday with lies of what happens when you get old:mad:
You're planning your sex life that far ahead? :p
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-12-2006, 16:42
my own personal view that all relationships are doomed and ultimately pointless is not relevant to the conversation at hand,

Of course it is. There's hardly any surprise you can't see the point in a long-term commitment if you don't believe that long term commitment works.
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 16:42
... whatever... don't make much sense to me, but ignore me, I'm only an untrained padawan and have much to learn before I can become a full-fledged Jedi Master.

Continue under my tutelage, and all will be fine, my young apprentice.

Gee, thanks for that :p

Anytime, mate! :D

Woman want food. Go hunt mammoth.

Me hunt sabre-toothed tiger. Me more manly. :p
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-12-2006, 16:45
Me hunt sabre-toothed tiger. Me more manly. :p

Me hunt at supermarket. me represent more stability.;)
Carnivorous Lickers
21-12-2006, 16:46
as of about 10 minutes ago I am officially a quarter of a century old.

nobody is home to tell my happy birthday :eek: everything is quiet here.

my dog did kill a bird this morning and left it on the deck as a present......stupid dog.


so, I am nowhere near where I thought I would be in life at 25, in fact we had an assignment in elementary school of "where will you be when you are 25?" and I found it last year in a box in my parent's garage and boy am I way off track (or I was really weird when I was 9.......either way)

so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?


my grade school assignment



real life


Hey Smunkee- Happy Birthday!!!

You know what happened between your written manifesto and now?

Life happened- you grew up.

You didnt need that stupid cat anyway.

Its good to have goal. Maybe now at 25, make a tentative list of where you'd like you and your family to be in 5 years.

Then-in 5 years, look at it and laugh.

You're doing fine. Be well and keep up the good work.
Southeastasia
21-12-2006, 16:47
and to answer the other question... I honestly don't give a shit where I end up when I'm 25, as long as I'm not dead, mentally/physically incapacitated, or in a relationship. (Can anyone who doesn't already know guess how old I am now based on that? :p)
Early to mid teens?
Anti-Social Darwinism
21-12-2006, 16:48
To haul out an old, overused saying "marriage isn't for everyone." But that doesn't mean no one should marry. Many people are well suited to it (unfortunately they frequently marry people who aren't suited to it, but that's another discussion). Smunkee is obviously suited to it and was lucky enough (or intelligent enough) to choose someone who was also suited to it and her. Go Smunkee!
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:50
Me hunt sabre-toothed tiger. Me more manly. :p
Me have somebody else hunt tigers. Me more lazy. :D
Europa Maxima
21-12-2006, 16:51
If he and I continue to live together for another 9 years, we will become common-law married according to the laws of our state.

So what constitutes a common-law divorce then? Kicking him out of bed 9 years consecutively for messing cookie crumbs in the bed?
Compulsive Depression
21-12-2006, 16:51
I'm with Czardas on the marriage thing.

Ooh and I forgot to say/didn't read the OP properly:
When I was 25 I had a girlfriend who lived 80-odd miles away, I (finally!) moved out of my parents' house (after moving back in after university when I was... 22, I think) into my own little flat (all by myself!), and the company I was working for moved so I got to work from home. I was driving a 1992 Fiat Uno which was starting to get a bit ill. I had won life.

The later parts of that only happened at the beginning of this month ;)
Carnivorous Lickers
21-12-2006, 16:52
Woman want food. Go hunt mammoth.

So you can make me a mammoth sandwich after I drag you into the cave by your hair?
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 16:53
Me hunt at supermarket. me represent more stability.;)

Heron-Marked Warriors win thread. :D
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 16:53
Me hunt at supermarket. me represent more stability.;)

Me hunt with phone to take out delivery...
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 16:53
So what constitutes a common-law divorce then? Kicking him out of bed 9 years consecutively for messing cookie crumbs in the bed?

you have to get a real divorce (or at least in my state) and the way you know you are common law married is if you ever file a tax return together or ever present yourself as married.
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-12-2006, 16:53
Me hunt with phone to take out delivery...

Me witness evolution. Me show creationists
Bottle
21-12-2006, 16:54
So you can make me a mammoth sandwich after I drag you into the cave by your hair?
You need watch you cholesterol. You having low-cal soy imitation-mammoth smoothie instead.
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 16:55
You need watch you cholesterol. You having low-cal soy imitation-mammoth smoothie instead.

Me no want mammoth smoothie. Me want sammich!
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 16:57
Me witness evolution. Me show creationists

Next step, Me order using internet... me very very adaptive
Carnivorous Lickers
21-12-2006, 16:57
In my country, legal marriage carries a lot of important rights and responsibilities. It's actually pretty complex, even though the process of becoming legally married is almost absurdly easy (for heterosexual couples).

At 25, my life will already be very complicated and distracting. I think it would be irresponsible of me to enter into a legal union when I know damn well that I won't have the time or energy to devote an appropriate amount of attention to figuring out said legal union.

But then, I'm a nerd. I am compelled to do extensive research on all important subjects in my life. I will need to have a comprehensive understanding of both federal and state laws regarding marriage before I sign any marriage license. And, at 25, I'm pretty sure that I will prefer to spend my time playing videogames, so that research is gonna get put off for a while. :D

Its good to already be your own person and on your own path at or before your marriage.
There are many people that have no direction yet, marry young for whatever reason seemed good at the time, then fall short of whatever expectations they may have had.
This can lead to bitterness towards the spouse, blaming them for holding them back or fouling them up.

Thats not saying you wouldnt change a little or make compromises with your spouse, but its a good thing if you have an idea of who you are and what you want and need before somone helps confuse you.
Imperial isa
21-12-2006, 16:59
You need watch you cholesterol. You having low-cal soy imitation-mammoth smoothie instead.

now you just need power
Carnivorous Lickers
21-12-2006, 17:01
You need watch you cholesterol. You having low-cal soy imitation-mammoth smoothie instead.

yuck. If exertions proved to be rewarding enough, I'd hopefully be asleep before said smoothie reached frappe.

Besides- its mammoth that puts hope in your rope.
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 17:07
birthday girl refuses to acknowledge cave man spam
Unknown apathy
21-12-2006, 17:11
birthday girl refuses to acknowledge cave man spam

Should we evolve to Greek/roman times, medieval times or would you rather us be from the Victorian age?
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 17:12
birthday girl refuses to acknowledge cave man spam

Birthday girl want baluchitherium pie?
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 17:13
Should we evolve to Greek/roman times, medieval times or would you rather us be from the Victorian age?

if you do Greek/Roman do we get to talk about astronomy?
Imperial isa
21-12-2006, 17:14
if you do Greek/Roman do we get to talk about astronomy?

it's your birthday you pick
Darknovae
21-12-2006, 17:25
as of about 10 minutes ago I am officially a quarter of a century old.

nobody is home to tell my happy birthday :eek: everything is quiet here.

my dog did kill a bird this morning and left it on the deck as a present......stupid dog.


so, I am nowhere near where I thought I would be in life at 25, in fact we had an assignment in elementary school of "where will you be when you are 25?" and I found it last year in a box in my parent's garage and boy am I way off track (or I was really weird when I was 9.......either way)

so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?


my grade school assignment



real life

Happy birthday Smunkee! :fluffle:x25!!!!

You're a little over 10 years older than me!

At 25, I hope to be relatively content. :p
JuNii
21-12-2006, 17:30
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! :fluffle:
my dog did kill a bird this morning and left it on the deck as a present......stupid dog. for a pet, that's really generous. ;)

so, I am nowhere near where I thought I would be in life at 25, in fact we had an assignment in elementary school of "where will you be when you are 25?" and I found it last year in a box in my parent's garage and boy am I way off track (or I was really weird when I was 9.......either way)

so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?
at 25... I was where I am now.

almost content and motoring along. :cool:
Chandelier
21-12-2006, 17:40
Yay for physical science grad students!!!

But I advise you to avoid Chemistry. Bunch of stuck up jerks, always lording it over me with their smug grasp of electron orbits and nomenclature...

Yes.:)

I said chemistry because I'm in AP Chemistry right now and I really enjoy it. I'm really interested in nanoscience, and I'd love to do something with that. All I know for sure right now is that I want to work in science.
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 18:11
now, to hijack my own thread that was previously hijacked in at least 4 directions

I got word from hubby to "not make any plans Friday night" on Saturday

Monday I asked why and he said "someone planned something for your birthday" and when I asked if it was him he said "no, I don't have that type of access"

yesterday he said "don't get mad at me Friday night, remember I didn't plan it"

any ideas?
Czardas
21-12-2006, 18:13
That's my view too actually - I just try and throw in some optimism to conceal my overarching nihilism. :)
Optimism is for suckers! <.<


Of course it is. There's hardly any surprise you can't see the point in a long-term commitment if you don't believe that long term commitment works.
No, I see the point in a long-term commitment (despite believing it can't really work; I know not everyone will have that kind of foresight, they'll probably be "in love" or something stupid like that, which is basically an excuse for having no perspective used after the fact). I don't see why people feel they have to get married to achieve one.

Early to mid teens?
Mid to late, actually. Most people don't seem to go through the crisis until senior year of high school in this country. :p
Bodies Without Organs
21-12-2006, 18:13
any ideas?

You will finally be initiated into the ranks of 'adulthood': they will let you in on all the big secrets, including why 'because I say so' is a justifiable statement.
Turquoise Days
21-12-2006, 18:17
You will finally be initiated into the ranks of 'adulthood': they will let you in on all the big secrets, including why 'because I say so' is a justifiable statement.

The logic, I am told, is irrefutable. *nods*

You know Smunkee, this means you have been on NS for just over 1/25 of your life. I shall speculate not on whether this is a good thing or not...

Oh, and Happy Birthday!
Haerodonia
21-12-2006, 18:46
25? I shall probably be in university studying some crappy biology-related degree not really knowing what I'm supposed to do with my life any more than I do now.

Saying that, at least I won't be living in a council house with 6 kids and a stream of partners while making my dole money last as long as possible on fags and booze. I would feel sorry for my former friends who have already started on the path to that lifestyle, but I'm too angry with them for wasting my future tax money.

I'll be in debt though... seriously. Theres so many things you want to do as a kid but you're so naive that you think theres plenty of time, until you realise that there isn't. And then you die.

I'm gonna go back into my anti-philosophy bubble of ignorance now and watch some kids TV.
JuNii
21-12-2006, 18:50
now, to hijack my own thread that was previously hijacked in at least 4 directions

I got word from hubby to "not make any plans Friday night" on Saturday

Monday I asked why and he said "someone planned something for your birthday" and when I asked if it was him he said "no, I don't have that type of access"

yesterday he said "don't get mad at me Friday night, remember I didn't plan it"

any ideas?
Don't get mad on Friday, try to enjoy it and have fun with Hubby!
I suspect a surprise party...
Infinite Revolution
21-12-2006, 18:51
firstly: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! :D

secondly: when i'm twenty five (three years time) i will either be just finishing a masters degree in archaeology, or just finishing a vocational qualification to be a vehicle mechanic, depending on how my first degree goes and how long i end up travelling and working for.
Radical Centrists
21-12-2006, 19:13
as of about 10 minutes ago I am officially a quarter of a century old.

nobody is home to tell my happy birthday :eek: everything is quiet here.

my dog did kill a bird this morning and left it on the deck as a present......stupid dog.


so, I am nowhere near where I thought I would be in life at 25, in fact we had an assignment in elementary school of "where will you be when you are 25?" and I found it last year in a box in my parent's garage and boy am I way off track (or I was really weird when I was 9.......either way)

so where do you hope to be when you are 25? (if you aren't) and if you are/have been 25 where were you and what were you doing then?

Hey! I just noticed that you sigged my Borg joke. My life somehow feels more complete then it did ten minutes ago. Thanks! :D

And happy birthday!
The Pacifist Womble
21-12-2006, 19:17
Well, I am a fifth of a century old now. In five years I hope to have a fine art degree, and a long-term relationship.

Hopefully I will not have a car
Wow, this twists one of my stereotypes about Americans!

What's grad school?

I'm 24 and started university about a year ago... and dude, being 25 and married with children... that's too much... better get married in my early 30s... first have a solid financial source

But than again, I had 3 years of my life spent on compulsory army service ~_~
It's probably better to start a degree when you're in your 20s than when you're 18, though army service in the mean time wouldn't be my own ideal.
New Xero Seven
21-12-2006, 19:18
Happy quarter-of-a-century sugar muffin flufflepuffs! :fluffle: :p
Dakini
21-12-2006, 19:25
I thought you had kids? Maybe I had you confused with another poster...

Happy birthday in any case!

Oh, and 25 is only two years away. Hopefully by then I'm either a graduate student or a teacher. It might be nice to own a cat by then as well.
Bottle
21-12-2006, 19:25
Wow, this twists one of my stereotypes about Americans!

I do what I can. :D


What's grad school?

Graduate school. It's where you go after your undergraduate degree if you don't want to get a real job. (It is also where human souls go to die.) You typically work toward a PhD degree, though there are also grad programs for other degrees. Sometimes medical school is put under the general heading of "graduate school," though more often it is kept in its own special category because medical doctors get all the love. *Pout*
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 19:28
I thought you had kids? Maybe I had you confused with another poster...

Happy birthday in any case!

Oh, and 25 is only two years away. Hopefully by then I'm either a graduate student or a teacher. It might be nice to own a cat by then as well.

I do have kids, when I was 9 I didn't think I would have any
Dakini
21-12-2006, 19:31
I do have kids, when I was 9 I didn't think I would have any
Ah, then I guess I just thought you were much older than 25...
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 19:32
Ah, then I guess I just thought you were much older than 25...

everyone does. :(
IL Ruffino
21-12-2006, 19:34
Smunkee, TG me your home address.
Dakini
21-12-2006, 19:35
everyone does. :(
Aww.... well, you might look younger than 25. I just haven't seen what you look like so I can't base anything on that, but when I think of someone who has kids I tend to think of someone much older than 25.
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 19:36
Smunkee, TG me your home address.

so you can stalk me?! no way! check your tG
IL Ruffino
21-12-2006, 19:40
so you can stalk me?! no way! check your tG

*hops on a plane*
Ifreann
21-12-2006, 19:55
Woooo, Happy Smunkeeday!

now, to hijack my own thread that was previously hijacked in at least 4 directions

I got word from hubby to "not make any plans Friday night" on Saturday

Monday I asked why and he said "someone planned something for your birthday" and when I asked if it was him he said "no, I don't have that type of access"

yesterday he said "don't get mad at me Friday night, remember I didn't plan it"

any ideas?
Birthday orgy.
*hops on a plane*
Good old Ruffy.
Smunkeeville
21-12-2006, 20:12
I think I just found my b-day presents.......tempted to sneak a peek even though it's less than 4 hours until they are mine to have forever....

I know they aren't wrapped because hubby asked yesterday where to buy wrapping paper that wasn't Christmas themed..........

should I?

I wouldn't care so much other than the big secret secrecy about Friday night and the fact that I have received no less than 4 suspicious calls today

"Is <husband's name> home?"
"can I take a message?"
"no, no message, no problem"
*hangs up*

"Is <husband's name> home yet?"
"can I take a message?"
"no, no message"
*hangs up*

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