NationStates Jolt Archive


Music Genres

Smegsenland
20-12-2006, 18:55
What is ure favourite music genre, because i dont really have one
Soviet Haaregrad
20-12-2006, 18:58
Grindcore, powerviolence, mathcore. :)
Morganatron
20-12-2006, 18:59
classic rock, punk, and Irish folk.
Smegsenland
20-12-2006, 18:59
interesting
Smegsenland
20-12-2006, 19:00
does any1 here like rap and hip hop or r+b, u no crap like that
Cannot think of a name
20-12-2006, 19:05
does any1 here like rap and hip hop or r+b, u no crap like that

Are you typing on your phone or something? They went through all that trouble to lay out the keys as easy to use as possible, man. Use your words...

Yeah, there is some good stuff in there. I don't listen to it as a practice or anything but there are somethings that I like. I generally can find something I like in about any genre (yes even country...but have yet to find new age that I like. I'm not ruling it out, just sayin'...)

As a 'favorite' goes, I'd probably have to go with free jazz as that is the largest deliberate collection I have (I have others that have larger representation, but most of that comes from gifts or promos from when I was a music buyer).
UpwardThrust
20-12-2006, 19:07
Should have been a multi choice

I like Rock AND Heavy/thrash/death
Soviet Haaregrad
20-12-2006, 19:07
does any1 here like rap and hip hop or r+b, u no crap like that

I like some rap.
Telamond
20-12-2006, 19:09
Songs from musical theatre shows. I like most of them. :D
Otherwise, Ambient.
Interesting Specimens
20-12-2006, 19:11
Emo

OK so this is partly to annoy The Blessed Chris if he's still around ;) but I honestly do like a lot of stuff that gets classed under 'emo' (well, more accurately the less mainstream ones, so NOT JEW or FOB)..
King Bodacious
20-12-2006, 19:11
Why isn't country in the poll? I chose other because I love Country Music.
Ashmoria
20-12-2006, 19:13
country

i like music that i can sing along with and not be embarrassed about the lyrics.
Soviet Haaregrad
20-12-2006, 19:14
Emo

OK so this is partly to annoy The Blessed Chris if he's still around ;) but I honestly do like a lot of stuff that gets classed under 'emo' (well, more accurately the less mainstream ones, so NOT JEW or FOB)..

You get a cookie if you say you like Saetia.
Wallonochia
20-12-2006, 19:15
does any1 here like rap and hip hop or r+b, u no crap like that

I rather like some rap. Keep in mind that not all rap is 2pac and 50 cent. 2pac and 50 cent are to rap as Nickelback is to rock.

As to my favorite genre, I can't really pick one. I go through phases. I'm currently in a rap phase, but my last two phases were funk and death metal.
Intangelon
20-12-2006, 19:21
I'm only going to type this once -- I've made my point several times before in threads like this, so I refuse to debate any further.

Singling out ONE GENRE for "favorite" status is like singling out one food group or one molecule of water or phylum of animals as a favorite. It makes no sense and only furthers the splintering of music into sub-sub-categories that the RIAA and other money-grubbing coroporate entities love so much.

Expand your horizons, folks. Besides, half of the choices are no different in reality than the other half. Where's jazz, reggae, ska, soca, bossa, samba, bebop, romantic, classical, baroque, impressionist, choral, symphonic, musical theater, chamber music, funk, and other legitimate genres?

Also, what is "rock"? Arena rock like, say, Van Halen or AC-DC? Glam rock like Twisted Sister or Motley Crue? Acid rock like Jimi Hendrix? Southern rock like Lynyrd Skynyrd or the Allman Bros.?

What does "rock 'n roll" encompass? Just the 50s and early 60s like Buddy Holly, Bill Haley and the Comets -- or does that include early British invasion stuff like the Help!-era Beatles? What about latter-day rock 'n roll revivals like Bruce Springsteen, Stray Cats, early Joe Jackson, and the like?

See how fractious and silly genre-ism can get?

How's about just list some acts you dig and leave it at that? Besides, one person's "alternative Christian death speed punk garage band" is someone else's "trip-hop ska emo new-wave singer-songwriter acoustic folk jam band".

:rolleyes: in spades!
Intangelon
20-12-2006, 19:23
country

i like music that i can sing along with and not be embarrassed about the lyrics.

"Bubba Shot the Jukebox Last Night", "Achy Breaky Heart" and "Electric Slide" aren't embarrassing?

You have a much higher threshold for embarrassment than I.

;)
LiberationFrequency
20-12-2006, 19:27
country

i like music that i can sing along with and not be embarrassed about the lyrics.

So why do you like country?
Rameria
20-12-2006, 19:31
I don't have a favourite genre of music; I listen to a lot of different stuff.
Czardas
20-12-2006, 19:31
country

i like music that i can sing along with and not be embarrassed about the lyrics.

Dunno about you, but I'd certainly be embarrassed if I were singing along to country lyrics. Half of them are about lost love, or some stupid shit like that.

Also, the poll choices are absurd. The line between rock and rock'n'roll (if there ever was one) is extremely blurred. Ditto rock and metal, metal and punk, pop and electronica, etc.

I like pretty much anything that has originality, quality, and unsentimentality. In other words, good "progressive" rock/jazz, contemporary classical composers from Bartók and Stravinsky to Davidovsky and Stockhausen, the more "original" (and sometimes unknown) rock bands from the '70s on, etc.

For that reason I consider ~99% of the stuff being produced today utter crap, because it's either all about love or sex or something stupid like that, or the music is uninteresting and relies on the same old hackneyed harmonies, guitar riffs, drum patterns etc., or the singer can't make his/her point without resorting to using every other word as an expletive, or all three.
Czardas
20-12-2006, 19:32
"Bubba Shot the Jukebox Last Night", "Achy Breaky Heart" and "Electric Slide" aren't embarrassing?

You have a much higher threshold for embarrassment than I.

;)

beat me to it. :p
Cannot think of a name
20-12-2006, 19:39
"Bubba Shot the Jukebox Last Night", "Achy Breaky Heart" and "Electric Slide" aren't embarrassing?

You have a much higher threshold for embarrassment than I.

;)

And of course, I'm a Truck...
Hello I'm a truck
You've heard songs about truck drivers
Many times their story's told
How they pulled out of Pittsburgh
For six days on the road
'Bout that feather river canyon
And a-climbin' that old grapevine
That old roadhouse down in Texas
And the girls they left behind
You've heard their tales of daring
And I think that's just fine
But if you can spare a minute
Well I'd like to tell you mine

There'd be no truck drivers if it wasn't for us trucks
No double clutching gear jammin' coffee drinking nuts
They drive their way to glory and they have all the luck
There'd be no truck drivers if it wasn't for us trucks

Well there he sits in that cafe drinking coffee and telling lies
Prob'ly telling 'em 'bout that that hill we topped ten miles back
Outta tell 'em how he missed a gear and that Volkswagen bus full of hippies
Passed us like I was sittin' up on jacks
Or how we took that curve over on 66
Hadn't been for me hangin' on the shoulder
We'd a both wound up in the ditch

If we're on time he takes the credit
'n if we're late I get the blame
Up those hills with shutters open
My stacks a-runnin' flame
My tach'll runnin' red line
Suckin' diesel from the tanks
I take him south and bring him back
Without a word of thanks
Well now you've heard my story and I guess it's my tough luck
There'd be no truck drivers if it wasn't for us trucks

There'd be no truck drivers if it wasn't for us trucks
No double clutchin' gear jammin' coffee drinking nuts
They drive their way to glory and they have all the luck
There'd be no truck drivers if it wasn't for us trucks

Look at him sipping coffee and flirtin' with that waitress
And where do you think he left me?
That's right, next to cattle truck (mooo)
Why couldn't we have put me over there next to that little pink Mack
Gosh she's got pretty mud flaps
And talk bout stacked, they're both chromed
Well he'll be coming out in a minute and he'll get that bar and he'll go
around and beat on my tires
You know for two pints of diesel
Why I'd have a flat on the inside dual
Ha! Boy that fixed him
I never did like the way he drives anyhow
Thinks he's God's gift to waitresses
He never gives 'em a tip
Well I know what he's gonna do now
Take out that tape cartridge of Buck Owens and play it again
I don't know why he don't get a Merle Haggard tape
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/tabs/simpson-red/im-a-truck-2066.html
(not to pick on Ash, most genres have lyrics somewhere that are embarrassing. That's classic though...)
Freedontya
20-12-2006, 19:43
I agree with Intangelon. I listen to all types of music. There is no "type" of music that I dislike only songs that I don't like.

(edit) And for the record I like "I'm a Truck" You have to hear it for it to truly be funny.
Callisdrun
20-12-2006, 19:45
Heavy metal, especially black metal.
Unabashed Greed
20-12-2006, 19:45
I'm really into the old style, turn of the century up to the 1960's blues. When white guys started doing it though, it started to suck. Though Elvis was an exception... though I'm not exactly sure you could call Elvis "white".

Aside from that the funk of the 70's (George Clinton, 'Bootsy' Collins, Maceo Parker, etc.) is also everlasting.
Callisdrun
20-12-2006, 19:54
I'm only going to type this once -- I've made my point several times before in threads like this, so I refuse to debate any further.

Singling out ONE GENRE for "favorite" status is like singling out one food group or one molecule of water or phylum of animals as a favorite. It makes no sense and only furthers the splintering of music into sub-sub-categories that the RIAA and other money-grubbing coroporate entities love so much.

Expand your horizons, folks. Besides, half of the choices are no different in reality than the other half. Where's jazz, reggae, ska, soca, bossa, samba, bebop, romantic, classical, baroque, impressionist, choral, symphonic, musical theater, chamber music, funk, and other legitimate genres?

Also, what is "rock"? Arena rock like, say, Van Halen or AC-DC? Glam rock like Twisted Sister or Motley Crue? Acid rock like Jimi Hendrix? Southern rock like Lynyrd Skynyrd or the Allman Bros.?

What does "rock 'n roll" encompass? Just the 50s and early 60s like Buddy Holly, Bill Haley and the Comets -- or does that include early British invasion stuff like the Help!-era Beatles? What about latter-day rock 'n roll revivals like Bruce Springsteen, Stray Cats, early Joe Jackson, and the like?

See how fractious and silly genre-ism can get?

How's about just list some acts you dig and leave it at that? Besides, one person's "alternative Christian death speed punk garage band" is someone else's "trip-hop ska emo new-wave singer-songwriter acoustic folk jam band".

:rolleyes: in spades!

I've never understood the animosity some people feel towards genres and subgenres. It's just a simple way of describing a band's basic sound as a starting point to then get more specific, much easier than trying to describe a band's sound starting from scratch. Yes, it is rather like the Linean system for classifying organisms, with the band as the individual species. I don't really mind so much.

I would find many of the bands hard to describe without first saying what their genre was. Same as I would find Mahler hard to describe if I couldn't use the term "Romantic" as a starting point.
Heron-Marked Warriors
20-12-2006, 19:56
My favourite genre is alternative Christian death speed punk garage. And why the hell isn't that on the poll?
Kinda Sensible people
20-12-2006, 19:58
The only genre I've ever heard that I liked was noise.

Everything else was just silly little labels for silly little children.

I like some "Rock", some "Punk", some "Folk", some "Rap", some "Metal", some "Emocore", and some "Country".
Czardas
20-12-2006, 19:58
I would find many of the bands hard to describe without first saying what their genre was. Same as I would find Mahler hard to describe if I couldn't use the term "Romantic" as a starting point.

You could describe it, but it would sound something like:

"Mahler has a demonstrated affinity for using the first hexachord of the augmented major scale to form his harmonies, and frequently uses a modified sonata-allegro form, occasionally with the coda or codetta serving as a second development in and of itself. Mahler's orchestration creates lush sounds by use of muted violoncellos, harmonics, and flutter-tonguing. In addition..."



Yay, I can technobabble in any language now! :D
Angry Swedish Monkeys
20-12-2006, 20:03
you should have just put metal as an overall genre. while I certainly do like death/thrash metal, I find far more enjoyment from bands that are better classified as symphonic, folk, or progressive/avantgarde metal.
Interesting Specimens
20-12-2006, 20:04
You get a cookie if you say you like Saetia.

Alas never heard of them. *goes off to research*
Cannot think of a name
20-12-2006, 20:05
I've never understood the animosity some people feel towards genres and subgenres. It's just a simple way of describing a band's basic sound as a starting point to then get more specific, much easier than trying to describe a band's sound starting from scratch. Yes, it is rather like the Linean system for classifying organisms, with the band as the individual species. I don't really mind so much.

I would find many of the bands hard to describe without first saying what their genre was. Same as I would find Mahler hard to describe if I couldn't use the term "Romantic" as a starting point.

You said that kinder than I was going to, so thanks man.
Meridiani Planum
20-12-2006, 20:08
I have broad musical tastes, but I voted "dance/electronica". I love techno, trance, industrial, synth, and similar things.

I also like much of 80's pop rock.
Isidoor
20-12-2006, 20:13
does any1 here like rap and hip hop or r+b, u no crap like that

some turntablism is really impressive, and i like coldcut and dj shadow

but i like a lot of different stuff, mainly post rock and electronica (by wich i mean electronic music made for listening, not for dancing), but also freak folk, jazz, noise, electro and house (for dancing purposes) and tons of other stuff that doesn't really fit in genres.

so in short i like anything from this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsz6krAp1Xo)to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Ob53zAHP0)
Mac World
20-12-2006, 20:39
I love dance and electronica.
The Pacifist Womble
20-12-2006, 20:40
Electronica, rock and metal.
Infinite Revolution
20-12-2006, 20:46
if ever there was a poll that should be multiple choice, this is it. or at least provide a 'some-of-the-above' option.
DHomme
20-12-2006, 21:07
Hip hop/rap followed by punk.
Swilatia
20-12-2006, 21:28
why is rap listed as a music genre? rap is not music.
United Guppies
20-12-2006, 21:31
Grindcore, powerviolence, mathcore. :)

You have problems. That kind of music is for if you like killing guitars.
Teh_pantless_hero
20-12-2006, 21:33
some turntablism is really impressive, and i like coldcut and dj shadow

I like Cut Chemist.

why is rap listed as a music genre? rap is not music.
And the shift key makes capital letters.
United Guppies
20-12-2006, 21:33
why is rap listed as a music genre? rap is not music.

Of course it's music! I voted for rock because rap is my second favorite!
Wallonochia
20-12-2006, 21:34
Of course it's music! I voted for rock because rap is my second favorite!

There are a lot of people on this forum who hate rap (for whatever reason) and there's absolutely nothing you can do to convince them otherwise. It's like talking to a brick wall.
Kinda Sensible people
20-12-2006, 21:35
You have problems. That kind of music is for if you like killing guitars.

What is wrong with killing guitars? Guitars should be killed.

"Musicians smash your instruments, blind men take the stage," and all that...
Swilatia
20-12-2006, 21:35
Of course it's music! I voted for rock because rap is my second favorite!
no, it's just bad rhymes.
Kinda Sensible people
20-12-2006, 21:37
no, it's just bad rhymes.

Erm... Huh?

So... There's no backing beat in rap... There's no sampling done? Rappers never vary in pitch and never follow a rhythm?
Ultraviolent Radiation
20-12-2006, 21:43
Why isn't the "Heavy metal/Thrash Metal/Death Metal" bit just called metal? Is it supposed to exclude the other subgenres of metal? :confused: I voted for it anyway, despite the narrowness.
The Metal Horde
20-12-2006, 21:44
Grindcore, powerviolence, mathcore. :)

MATHCORE! haha

I really think this should be a multiple choice, because I listen to so much. I suppose mine would be metal, but I don't know. I mean, it makes sense with the name and everything.
Rameria
20-12-2006, 21:45
Grindcore, powerviolence, mathcore. :)
I'd never heard that term before; I was very disappointed when you weren't talking about stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTby_e4-Rhg&mode=related&search=

:D :p
Kiryu-shi
20-12-2006, 21:49
My response to any music thread: http://www.thedeadballera.com/MeetTheMets62Version.mp3

(I put folk to give it a little selfconfidence)
The Metal Horde
20-12-2006, 21:49
I'd never heard that term before; I was very disappointed when you weren't talking about stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTby_e4-Rhg&mode=related&search=

:D :p

Aw that is great. I'm so emailing that to my Calc teacher.
Salarma
20-12-2006, 21:57
Roll and roll!!!! Bring on the lazer show!:gundge: Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!:D
Rameria
20-12-2006, 21:59
Roll and roll!!!! Bring on the lazer show!:gundge: Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!:D
What on earth are you on about?
Isidoor
20-12-2006, 22:06
I like Cut Chemist.

i don't know him or a lot of other turntablists, but kid koala is my favorite, i once saw the dj bigband too, that was extremely impressive.
DHomme
20-12-2006, 22:13
Erm... Huh?

So... There's no backing beat in rap... There's no sampling done? Rappers never vary in pitch and never follow a rhythm?

Dont be stupid, black people cant make music.
Swilatia
20-12-2006, 22:13
Roll and roll!!!! Bring on the lazer show!:gundge: Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!:D

most of us here don't know how to speak n00b.
Arglendaria
20-12-2006, 22:14
I like all kinds of music, but I voted for dance/electronica (even though it's a terrible definiton) because almost all Detroit Techno is sweet.

edit:Dont be stupid, black people cant make music.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Saunderson
Kinda Sensible people
20-12-2006, 22:14
Dont be stupid, black people cant make music.

But without black people, how would we have jungle-drums?
Cats and Eggs
20-12-2006, 22:16
Dont be stupid, black people cant make music.

Jazz.
Cats and Eggs
20-12-2006, 22:18
Grindcore, powerviolence, mathcore. :)

Oh yeah! Mathcore and progressive in general for me.
The Metal Horde
20-12-2006, 22:18
Jazz.

*nods*

and Blues.
Trotskylvania
20-12-2006, 22:18
What is ure favourite music genre, because i dont really have one

Heavy metal all the way.
The Mindset
20-12-2006, 22:33
At the moment, indie electro, disco punk, disco electro, punk pop, orchestral tribal, ambient electronica, post punk, experimental post jazz, electro jazz, alt rock, electro punk, electroclash and funk. As you can tell, I'm totally digging electro at the moment.

I am of the opinion that metal is shit, though I may be uninformed as every time someone attempts to convince me to try some, my ears bleed and I scratch out my eyeballs in a vain attempt to stop the greater pain being inflicted from this supposed music.
Swilatia
20-12-2006, 22:40
Dont be stupid, black people cant make music.

really? so you have never heard of Jazz?
Angry Swedish Monkeys
20-12-2006, 23:38
I am of the opinion that metal is shit, though I may be uninformed as every time someone attempts to convince me to try some, my ears bleed and I scratch out my eyeballs in a vain attempt to stop the greater pain being inflicted from this supposed music.

what subgenres of metal have you heard? personally, I do enjoy most subgenres of metal, even death and black metal, but I can understand how some people wouldn't like them. there is, however, some genres, such as symphonic metal, that the only word for it is, well, beautiful.
Rejistania
20-12-2006, 23:55
why is rap listed as a music genre? rap is not music.
there is good rap, which is not just words and noise, Yacy/Google for Jan Delay, if you don't believe me!
Buristan
20-12-2006, 23:57
country is the greatest
MrMopar
20-12-2006, 23:58
High voltage rock and roll! Wine, women and song!
Turquoise Days
21-12-2006, 00:04
really? so you have never heard of Jazz?
T'was sarcasm.

Oh, and rock - although I am partial to folk.
Rejistania
21-12-2006, 00:07
what subgenres of metal have you heard? personally, I do enjoy most subgenres of metal, even death and black metal, but I can understand how some people wouldn't like them. there is, however, some genres, such as symphonic metal, that the only word for it is, well, beautiful.

Symphonic metal is about my least favorite genre of it... but that is because I am allergic to anything resembling classical music. Really, Mozart makes me want to leave the room!

I chose other meaning everything from reggae to kaneka.
Anadyr Islands
21-12-2006, 00:08
Has anyone said Reggae yet? If not, then yeah, I'll put that up.

Generally, I love world music. Anything from Rai to Celtic to Oriental gets me going. Mainly, because I've become disillusioned steadily with mainstream music like Rock and Rap.

I have a rather fixed viewpoint on metal. I like the instrumentals and I love electric guitars with distortion real loud. I, however, hate almost all the vocals in metal, and the subjects they sing about, if you can call it singing.

(Oh, I'm going to head-banged to death now by angry metallers.:headbang: :rolleyes: )
Rejistania
21-12-2006, 00:11
I said Raggae already. Metisse is great!
Hallad
21-12-2006, 00:21
Ska. Because without it we wouldn't have reggae. And it's better than reggae. So there. :P
Angry Swedish Monkeys
21-12-2006, 00:23
Symphonic metal is about my least favorite genre of it... but that is because I am allergic to anything resembling classical music. Really, Mozart makes me want to leave the room!


hmm, I love mozart....

oh well, to each his own.
DHomme
21-12-2006, 00:27
really? so you have never heard of Jazz?

Does nobody get irony any more?

Did you not notice that I'm the only person who picked rap/hip-hop as their favourite genre and think it was a little contrary for me to make such a comment?
Swilatia
21-12-2006, 00:32
Does nobody get irony any more?

Did you not notice that I'm the only person who picked rap/hip-hop as their favourite genre and think it was a little contrary for me to make such a comment?

no I did not notice, because i never checked to see who voted what.
Anadyr Islands
21-12-2006, 00:34
Ska. Because without it we wouldn't have reggae. And it's better than reggae. So there. :P

Ska is related to Reggae in the same way a caterpillar is related to a butterfly.

Ska was just an awkward adolescent phase every genre of music seems to go through.At first, it was all nerdy and all the other genres picked on it But then it got older and more mature as Reggae. Then,It became Rasta as Reggae and was able to score with all the chicks then.:cool: Yeah, that's right, my analogy makes perfect sense.
Swilatia
21-12-2006, 00:37
country is the greatest

i truly ho[e you're sarcastic
Anadyr Islands
21-12-2006, 00:40
there is good rap, which is not just words and noise, Yacy/Google for Jan Delay, if you don't believe me!

Sounded like a dutch eminem or something,frankly, if I got the correct Jan Delay.

Not a good thing in my book. Eminem is currently in a position above Marylin Manson on my unlistenable list. So, sounding like him, to state the obvious, would be quite bad.
Hallad
21-12-2006, 00:40
Ska is related to Reggae in the same way a caterpillar is related to a butterfly.

Ska was just an awkward adolescent phase every genre of music seems to go through.At first, it was all nerdy and all the other genres picked on it But then it got older and more mature as Reggae. Then,It became Rasta as Reggae and was able to score with all the chicks then.:cool: Yeah, that's right, my analogy makes perfect sense.

I think you mean, "the first jamaican hits on international charts were ska songs, and it completely launched the careers of Bob Marley and other bands like Toots and Maytals."

Reggae quite litterally came from ska. It's just slower ska that decided to get a less cool, drug-oriented subculture instead of subculture based on first gangs, then social equality.
Anadyr Islands
21-12-2006, 00:41
i truly ho[e you're sarcastic

Well, I suppose people have different tastes...:D
Kinda Sensible people
21-12-2006, 00:45
Does nobody get irony any more?

Did you not notice that I'm the only person who picked rap/hip-hop as their favourite genre and think it was a little contrary for me to make such a comment?

Surely you know that sarcasm has been outlawed on NSG. Off with your head!
Anadyr Islands
21-12-2006, 00:47
I think you mean, "the first jamaican hits on international charts were ska songs, and it completely launched the careers of Bob Marley and other bands like Toots and Maytals."

Reggae quite litterally came from ska. It's just slower ska that decided to get a less cool, drug-oriented subculture instead of subculture based on first gangs, then social equality.


Firstly, it was sarcasm.

Secondly, I know that. I'm did research on that fact for reasons not important to this. Basically, same rhythm and feel, just slowed down a bit.Bass also plays a major role, more than in Ska. Less horns , less harmony between vocals, more guitars. You get my point in the little details that seperate them.

Anyway,While Bob Marley became famous at first because of that, his mature and more internationally recognised songs are in firmly Reggae sound. I mean, 'No Woman, No Cry' and 'Jammin', two of some of his most famous songs, are a good example of that.

Now, tell me what famous 'hits' that are still famous that are Ska, back in the days of Peter Tosh & Bob Marley, Toots and the Maytals & The Heptones?

In the end, my opinion.
Kinda Sensible people
21-12-2006, 00:51
HR Brain ruined Reggae for me forever.
Outcast Jesuits
21-12-2006, 00:54
I like Latin music. And Latin dance. Amazing stuff.
Rejistania
21-12-2006, 00:59
Sounded like a dutch eminem or something,frankly, if I got the correct Jan Delay.

Not a good thing in my book. Eminem is currently in a position above Marylin Manson on my unlistenable list. So, sounding like him, to state the obvious, would be quite bad.
Since Jan Delay raps in German and not Dutch (it sounds fairly different to me), it might have been the wrong one.

maybe check MC Solaar if you know french.
Outcast Jesuits
21-12-2006, 01:05
maybe check MC Solaar if you know french.

Good stuff right there.
Hallad
21-12-2006, 01:30
Firstly, it was sarcasm.

Secondly, I know that. I'm did research on that fact for reasons not important to this. Basically, same rhythm and feel, just slowed down a bit.Bass also plays a major role, more than in Ska. Less horns , less harmony between vocals, more guitars. You get my point in the little details that seperate them.

Anyway,While Bob Marley became famous at first because of that, his mature and more internationally recognised songs are in firmly Reggae sound. I mean, 'No Woman, No Cry' and 'Jammin', two of some of his most famous songs, are a good example of that.

Now, tell me what famous 'hits' that are still famous that are Ska, back in the days of Peter Tosh & Bob Marley, Toots and the Maytals & The Heptones?

In the end, my opinion.

"Israelites" by Desmond Dekker.
Rasselas
21-12-2006, 01:34
*grumbles about not being multichoice*

Rock, metal, classical are my favourites.


*grumbles something else about no power metal option :p*
Kanabia
21-12-2006, 01:53
There's only a few genres I really don't like at all...everytime I think a genre is irredeemable I hear an artist that opens my mind to it.

Well. Except mainstream pop and rock-lite. But that really goes without saying.

At the moment i'm mostly into doom metal.

Although i'd call stoner rock, grunge, post-rock, blues (well, mostly bluesy rock) and punk favourites too.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-12-2006, 01:55
There's only a few genres I really don't like at all...everytime I think a genre is irredeemable I hear an artist that opens my mind to it.

Well. Except mainstream pop and rock-lite. But that really goes without saying.

At the moment i'm mostly into doom metal.

Although i'd call stoner rock, grunge, post-rock, blues and punk favourites too.
The fuck? Shouldn't you be asleep or somehting? <.<
Kanabia
21-12-2006, 02:06
The fuck? Shouldn't you be asleep or somehting? <.<

lol. It's noon. I have to get back into some sort of routine because i've been slumped with all of the morning shifts at work this week. :p
Intangelon
21-12-2006, 09:28
beat me to it. :p

Which is better than being beaten with it.

'Course that depends on who's doing the beating and what with...
Intangelon
21-12-2006, 09:30
I've never understood the animosity some people feel towards genres and subgenres. It's just a simple way of describing a band's basic sound as a starting point to then get more specific, much easier than trying to describe a band's sound starting from scratch. Yes, it is rather like the Linean system for classifying organisms, with the band as the individual species. I don't really mind so much.

I would find many of the bands hard to describe without first saying what their genre was. Same as I would find Mahler hard to describe if I couldn't use the term "Romantic" as a starting point.

I agree, but to a point. There becomes a threshold where the numerous adject-nouns used to describe music serve to more confuse the issue than clarify it.
Risottia
21-12-2006, 09:35
Classical music.

Oh, and speedcore heavy metal.
Cromotar
21-12-2006, 09:52
Power/Symphonic metal
I V Stalin
21-12-2006, 14:42
post-rock
You know you're the only person in the thread to mention that? :(

People need edumacating!
Isidoor
21-12-2006, 14:57
You know you're the only person in the thread to mention that? :(

People need edumacating!

the second one to mention it ;), but yes, people need some edumacation, on the other hand it's not that bad that post rock isn't really popular, and i think it will never be.
Soviet Haaregrad
21-12-2006, 15:10
Classical music.

Oh, and speedcore heavy metal.

Speedcore is a type of techno, like gabber but three times as fast. 300+bpm insanity. Not metal. :)
Cluichstan
21-12-2006, 15:14
I'm only going to type this once -- I've made my point several times before in threads like this, so I refuse to debate any further.

Singling out ONE GENRE for "favorite" status is like singling out one food group or one molecule of water or phylum of animals as a favorite. It makes no sense and only furthers the splintering of music into sub-sub-categories that the RIAA and other money-grubbing coroporate entities love so much.

Expand your horizons, folks. Besides, half of the choices are no different in reality than the other half. Where's jazz, reggae, ska, soca, bossa, samba, bebop, romantic, classical, baroque, impressionist, choral, symphonic, musical theater, chamber music, funk, and other legitimate genres?

Also, what is "rock"? Arena rock like, say, Van Halen or AC-DC? Glam rock like Twisted Sister or Motley Crue? Acid rock like Jimi Hendrix? Southern rock like Lynyrd Skynyrd or the Allman Bros.?

What does "rock 'n roll" encompass? Just the 50s and early 60s like Buddy Holly, Bill Haley and the Comets -- or does that include early British invasion stuff like the Help!-era Beatles? What about latter-day rock 'n roll revivals like Bruce Springsteen, Stray Cats, early Joe Jackson, and the like?

See how fractious and silly genre-ism can get?

How's about just list some acts you dig and leave it at that? Besides, one person's "alternative Christian death speed punk garage band" is someone else's "trip-hop ska emo new-wave singer-songwriter acoustic folk jam band".

:rolleyes: in spades!

QFT.

/thread
Callisdrun
22-12-2006, 06:34
I agree, but to a point. There becomes a threshold where the numerous adject-nouns used to describe music serve to more confuse the issue than clarify it.

Yeah, I generally don't get more specific than "black metal" and "doom metal" in describing my two bands. Because if someone is well versed enough in either of these subgenres for further adjectives to matter, I can just say which bands are our influences and they'll have heard them and know exactly what I'm talking about. I get more specific the more shared interests in music someone has with me when I'm talking to them.
Hallucinogenic Tonic
22-12-2006, 14:46
Heavy Metal/Thrash Metal/Death Metal/Doom Metal/Black Metal :cool:
Pompous world
22-12-2006, 14:49
post hardcore (whatever that is)

rock I guess, dont like indie though since it can be inserted into rock. Im not into any specific genre, a much more useful way to describe what Im into is simply to name bands/artists I like and state why, because I dont really like much of any genre except the best (imo) which it has to offer.
Soviet Haaregrad
22-12-2006, 15:35
post hardcore (whatever that is)

rock I guess, dont like indie though since it can be inserted into rock. Im not into any specific genre, a much more useful way to describe what Im into is simply to name bands/artists I like and state why, because I dont really like much of any genre except the best (imo) which it has to offer.

Post-Hardcore being alternative rock directly decended from and expanding upon, but not quite, hardcore.
Potarius
22-12-2006, 15:38
Post-Hardcore being alternative rock directly decended from and expanding upon, but not quite, hardcore.

Husker Du exemplified and continue to exemplify Post-Hardcore.
Letila
22-12-2006, 17:14
You know, there are other genres out there besides modern popular music. Ever heard of jazz or classical?
Czardas
22-12-2006, 18:10
You know, there are other genres out there besides modern popular music. Ever heard of jazz or classical?

By now jazz ~= classical, and thus an ignored backwater of modern music. Jazz concerts are coming to resemble classical concerts, with everyone just sitting around politely and quietly, applauding politely at the end of solos and songs, oppressed by protocol and displaying very little enthusiasm (if any). That's why jazz is dying. Eventually rock, rap, hip-hop, latin, pop, etc. will all go the same way; you know a music genre's dead when people think they have to be incredibly serious to go listen to it.
Ralina
22-12-2006, 18:12
Where is indie rock or classic rock? Those get my vote.
CthulhuFhtagn
22-12-2006, 18:21
You know, there are other genres out there besides modern popular music. Ever heard of jazz or classical?

Classical is pretty much metal without vocals. Seriously, same techniques.
The blessed Chris
22-12-2006, 18:33
Probably somwhere metalcore, poppunk and scene.
Tenuria
22-12-2006, 18:38
Classical is pretty much metal without vocals. Seriously, same techniques.

Depends on what era classical. 1800s classical maybe, yeah, but 1900s classical is either really postmodernist electronica sans vocals, metal without vocals, postrock without vocals, prog rock without vocals, or vocals alone (depends on the piece here).
Kanabia
23-12-2006, 11:02
By now jazz ~= classical, and thus an ignored backwater of modern music. Jazz concerts are coming to resemble classical concerts, with everyone just sitting around politely and quietly, applauding politely at the end of solos and songs, oppressed by protocol and displaying very little enthusiasm (if any). That's why jazz is dying. Eventually rock, rap, hip-hop, latin, pop, etc. will all go the same way; you know a music genre's dead when people think they have to be incredibly serious to go listen to it.

I don't know about the genre being quite dead yet, but that's pretty much my impression of jazz. I recognise the often exemplary instrumental talent of jazz musicians, but my experience of the music is often (with some exceptions) emotionless.

You know you're the only person in the thread to mention that? :(

People need edumacating!

the second one to mention it ;), but yes, people need some edumacation, on the other hand it's not that bad that post rock isn't really popular, and i think it will never be.

I agree - part of the reason post rock is so cool a genre is because it's explicitly away from the mainstream and created by artists that genuinely care for the music - there is very little pressure by record companies on the artists to conform to the trends of the time (I can't think of one post-rock band that isn't on an independent label), and as a result, there aren't tons of bands to ream through that are just washed out commercial tripe. I don't think it'll ever be a popular genre, but its creative peak will probably last quite a long time as a result.
Maraque
23-12-2006, 11:08
Rap is music. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't music. I could just as easily say Rock wasn't music, but lo and behold! It is.

p.s. Hip Hop =/= Rap

I like Hip Hop, R&B, and some Rap.
Soviet Haaregrad
23-12-2006, 11:56
Husker Du exemplified and continue to exemplify Post-Hardcore.

Yes, yes they do. :)
Funky Beat Mk2
23-12-2006, 14:43
Captain Beefheart. At a guess, I might call it unhinged blues/free jazz.
I V Stalin
23-12-2006, 16:08
I agree - part of the reason post rock is so cool a genre is because it's explicitly away from the mainstream and created by artists that genuinely care for the music - there is very little pressure by record companies on the artists to conform to the trends of the time (I can't think of one post-rock band that isn't on an independent label), and as a result, there aren't tons of bands to ream through that are just washed out commercial tripe. I don't think it'll ever be a popular genre, but its creative peak will probably last quite a long time as a result.

Sigur Rós (re-)released Takk on EMI in the UK. Even then that was just because a bigger audience had been created for it through the use of Glosoli and Hoppipolla on so many tv trailers and adverts. Their next album might be on EMI, but I can't imagine it'll sell as well as Takk.

There might not be 'commercial tripe', but there is some very average post-rock out there (thinking of recent Mogwai, except for Mr Beast). And, IMO, there are some post-rock bands that get undeserved acclaim (MONO, for example - I just don't get them).
Xeniph
23-12-2006, 16:17
Power metal and true metal rock.
Zhidkoye Solntsye
23-12-2006, 16:28
My big thing is psy-trance, preferably Israeli-style. Also electronic music and some other technoish stuff, and a couple of other random bands that don't really fit anywhere, like Blue Man Group.

As for classical music, mainly Baroque and modern; Bach, Poulenc, East-Europeans like Martinu, and generally the sort of stuff on Radio 3 at about 12:30 at night.
Letila
23-12-2006, 16:42
Classical is pretty much metal without vocals. Seriously, same techniques.

Techniques like thematic and motivic development, diminished 7th chords, and counterpoint? Sorry, but that just struck me as somewhat silly.

I don't know about the genre being quite dead yet, but that's pretty much my impression of jazz. I recognise the often exemplary instrumental talent of jazz musicians, but my experience of the music is often (with some exceptions) emotionless.

That's been my impression as well, from what I've heard of jazz. Still, I find the concept of improvization rather interesting.
Breitenburg
24-12-2006, 04:59
Rock of course. There's so many different types. That's the glory of it. There's classic, like the Beatles, prog, like Pink Floyd, metal, like Metallica, punk, like The Ramones, grunge, like Nirvana, or alternative, like the Smashing Pumpkins.

*goes and listens to MP3 full of awesomeness*
New Canadialand
24-12-2006, 05:20
I'm a metalhead. But you wouldn't think it to look at me.

Mostly the newer genres of metal. Death metal, power metal, speed metal. To use the simplest terms. Metal with female opera style vocals tends to appeal to me a great deal as well. Opera by itself doesn't catch my ear, but mix it with some heavy metal, and you have success! Black metal and doom metal are a bit too heavy for my tastes.

In Flames, Children of Bodom, Dragonforce, Iced Earth, Nightwish. To name to main ones.

I'm also something of a fan of a few hard rock type bands. Nickelback, Godsmack and Lordi.
Lerkistan
24-12-2006, 05:38
Voted rap, followed by what should probably classed as heavy metall.


no, it's just bad rhymes.

What, then, is a "good" rhyme?
Lerkistan
24-12-2006, 05:51
maybe check MC Solaar if you know french.

Ah, yes. The French do some good stuff.
Kanabia
24-12-2006, 08:24
Sigur Rós (re-)released Takk on EMI in the UK. Even then that was just because a bigger audience had been created for it through the use of Glosoli and Hoppipolla on so many tv trailers and adverts. Their next album might be on EMI, but I can't imagine it'll sell as well as Takk.

My bad. I guess that explains why they're the only post-rock band most people have heard of. :p

There might not be 'commercial tripe', but there is some very average post-rock out there (thinking of recent Mogwai, except for Mr Beast). And, IMO, there are some post-rock bands that get undeserved acclaim (MONO, for example - I just don't get them).

Well, that applies to all genres. There's always some artists that can't quite make it. On the other hand, there's a lot less crap to wade through to get to the good stuff.


That's been my impression as well, from what I've heard of jazz. Still, I find the concept of improvization rather interesting.

Definitely. There are certain moments (covered by my "some exceptions") where i've thought "wow, that's really cool" after hearing an improvised jazz guitar solo or piano melody that is dissonant but at the same time makes complete sense. However, I find that those moments are unfortunately fleeting.
Saxnot
24-12-2006, 21:01
Hard and Psychedelic Rock from 1965 to 1975, mainly, but not exclusively.
Hydesland
24-12-2006, 21:53
Wow I can't believe how many people like death metal, I didn't think this thread was so full up of greesy angsty teenagers :D

/jk
Ultraviolent Radiation
24-12-2006, 22:19
Wow I can't believe how many people like death metal, I didn't think this thread was so full up of greesy angsty teenagers :D

/jk

Of course it is. It's the Internet. But I though angsty teenagers liked "emo" and "nu-metal", not death metal.

Actually, I'm not convinced "emo" is actually a genre so much as a label people give to rock/metal that they don't like...
Soviet Haaregrad
24-12-2006, 23:39
Of course it is. It's the Internet. But I though angsty teenagers liked "emo" and "nu-metal", not death metal.

Actually, I'm not convinced "emo" is actually a genre so much as a label people give to rock/metal that they don't like...

Emo is an offshoot of hardcore, except, circa 2001 MTV started labeling their crappy pop-punk bands as emo, because everyone was sick of pre-manufactured fake punk, but their younger siblings would buy it up in droves with some new packaging.
RubberLove
24-12-2006, 23:58
My favorite genre are Psychobilly. With bands like Demented Are Go, Mad Sin, Nekromantix, Frantic Flintstones, Rezurex and Long Tall Texans it's just a great!
Soviet Haaregrad
25-12-2006, 00:10
My favorite genre are Psychobilly. With bands like Demented Are Go, Mad Sin, Nekromantix, Frantic Flintstones, Rezurex and Long Tall Texans it's just a great!

Rev. Horton Heat fan, perchance?
Bodies Without Organs
25-12-2006, 00:20
And, IMO, there are some post-rock bands that get undeserved acclaim (MONO, for example - I just don't get them).

Aye. I saw MONO a month or so back. They got blown off the stage by the local support.
New Auskordarg
25-12-2006, 01:08
Other: Industrial such as Laibach and Alec Empire.
Soviet Haaregrad
25-12-2006, 01:15
Other: Industrial such as Laibach and Alec Empire.

Alec Empire/Atari Teenage Riot is digital hardcore, not industrial.

Laibach is industrial, specifically coldwave or industrial rock.

If you like Alec Empire, I suggest some EC8OR.

If you like Laibach I assume you already know Rammstein ripped them off, and you'll probably like Ministry too.