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it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?

it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?

Can I nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Can I nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Nah. I don't deserve it. But ta :)

it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?

Whoever wants to do it can drop a couple hundred tons on my farm, right now! I can plow it in, burn it for fuel -- it's great stuff!

You live in the city, don't you?

Whoever wants to do it can drop a couple hundred tons on my farm, right now! I can plow it in, burn it for fuel -- it's great stuff!

You live in the city, don't you?

Ya, and I know it's good for growing stuff, but it's not so lovely when it lands on your head, all over your house, and your children's heads :)

Manure vs. a bomb? Eh..

Minor inconvenience vs. explosives. Let me think..

Manure vs. a bomb? Eh..

Minor inconvenience vs. explosives. Let me think..

after a while it'd be more than a minor inconvenience - especially when it lands in reservoirs, streams, rivers, etc etc etc

It'd work I tell ya!

Just look at the amount of people who run away from water pistols filled with piss!

Let it sit around long enough and it'll attract all sorts of diseased vermin. I've always been a fan of inventive biological warfare (small pox blankets are a personal favorite).

Nah. I don't deserve it. But ta :)

Politicians would be far less likely to start wars if they knew it'd lead to their house being covered in manure. :p

Herbivore shit's not so bad. People are really happy to be given manure from my family's horses.

Human or dog excrament, for instance, is far, far less pleasant and much worse for you.

Herbivore shit's not so bad. People are really happy to be given manure from my family's horses.

Human or dog excrament, for instance, is far, far less pleasant and much worse for you.

You're kidding right? You ever smelled cow manure? It reeks so much you can smell it from miles off!

Dung beetle shit. It's like concentrated shit from something else.

I think we should have the men in the Armed Forces jack into a common container (say, collect the semen into 1000 liter containers).

Put fins and GPS guidance on the containers, and use those for pinpoint strikes on targets.

Alternate fill would be human shit, pork fat, beef fat - all depending on what you think the enemy will find more offensive and gross.

I think we should have the men in the Armed Forces jack into a common container (say, collect the semen into 1000 liter containers).

Put fins and GPS guidance on the containers, and use those for pinpoint strikes on targets.

Alternate fill would be human shit, pork fat, beef fat - all depending on what you think the enemy will find more offensive and gross.

People who have donated themselves to science. Put them in a blender, spray them on the enemy. Claim that's what you do with prisoners.

You're kidding right? You ever smelled cow manure? It reeks so much you can smell it from miles off!

No, I'm not kidding. I live fairly close to a sewerage plant and pass by it too frequently. It isn't good when the wind's blowing towards you.
My parents have a small manure pile up their garden - no smell. A riding school I used to go to had a muck heap that smelt nasty if you were within a few yards, but that was mostly ammonia from horse pee, and there was probably a hundred tons or more of manure, straw and piss from all their stables rotting in it.

Seriously, cow and horse crap is useful and not that unpleasant. You need to visit the real world occasionally!

People who have donated themselves to science. Put them in a blender, spray them on the enemy. Claim that's what you do with prisoners.

I just have this visual of a bomb coming in on an enemy target, and the bomb casing opens up at about 200 feet altitude, and 1000 liters of semen flies all over the hapless troops.

Yes, drop pig waste on a Muslim country. Or better yet deal with your own recycling problems by bombing your trash, refuse, sewage, animal refuse and drop them on the enemy city.

(-what we should have done in Fallujah)

Also worth thinking about dropping crates of vermin, such as skunks, termites, rodents and all other kind of disease carrying pests.

No, I'm not kidding. I live fairly close to a sewerage plant and pass by it too frequently. It isn't good when the wind's blowing towards you.
My parents have a small manure pile up their garden - no smell. A riding school I used to go to had a muck heap that smelt nasty if you were within a few yards, but that was mostly ammonia from horse pee, and there was probably a hundred tons or more of manure, straw and piss from all their stables rotting in it.

Seriously, cow and horse crap is useful and not that unpleasant. You need to visit the real world occasionally!

I do visit the real world, and I've been in vehicles that have driven past both dog shit and cow shit. I've also been in fields with cow shit in. Cow shit is the worst-smelling (though probably easiest to get off your shoes because of how sloppy it is)

You're kidding right? You ever smelled cow manure? It reeks so much you can smell it from miles off!

Nope, CD ain't. Carnivore (dog) and omnivore (human) feces smell much worse than herbivore (cow) feces because of a higher level of proteins in the diet.

Wait... Fertilizing the desert would mean Iraq could start crops and stuff.

New Breadbasket of the middle east anyone????

it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?

It's called biological weaponry, are you aware of that?
Also cow shit falling down from a B-52, at the usual altitude B-52s use to fly, will result in a hailstorm of frozen shit with shrapnel effect on ground.

Shit is bad. Dynamite is good.

D'oh.

Added: some years ago some italian farmers ("Cobas del latte") were blocking a motorway during a protest. Riot police came to whack them away, but had to flee as the farmers fires what is basically a shit cannon at them - a thing that is usually used to shoot fertiliser on the crops, but this time was loaded with pig shit. Yeech.

it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?

Nice idea!

Peace out!

Wait... Fertilizing the desert would mean Iraq could start crops and stuff.

New Breadbasket of the middle east anyone????
Of course, that would have to be followed by gallons and gallons of water for irrigation. It's tough to grow anything in sand, let alone dried out cow manure.

bomb with junk food... that might be useful... death by obesity

Is it treated with Psilocybe Cubensis spores first?

Politicians would be far less likely to start wars if they knew it'd lead to their house being covered in manure. :p

why???

their houses are filled from within already

You're kidding right? You ever smelled cow manure? It reeks so much you can smell it from miles off!

No. We use cow dung extensively in the villages. It is a very good anti-germ agent. It is actually used to mop the floor with in houses with mud floors.

I have used it myself to mix in the Bio-gas plant at our farm house. Yes, I pick it up from the grazing area with my bare hands and mix it with water with my bare hands. :eek: :p

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/faces/4403.jpg

What the south Indian Saivite above has in his forehead is "thiruneer" - ash made from cow dung. Quite common for saivites to smear it across their forehead.

Oh God. You'd almost rival Rumsfeld for incompetence. Almost. :p

No. We use cow dung extensively in the villages. It is a very good anti-germ agent. It is actually used to mop the floor with in houses with mud floors.

I have used it myself to mix in the Bio-gas plant at our farm house. Yes, I pick it up from the grazing area with my bare hands and mix it with water with my bare hands. :eek: :p

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/faces/4403.jpg

What the south Indian Saivite above has in his forehead is "thiruneer" - ash made from cow dung. Quite common for saivites to smear it across their forehead.


You can NOT be serious - the amount of flies I've seen attracted to manure, there's no way it's a good anti-germ agent. I certainly won't be visit your house where you clearly can't even smell shit and don't care about cleanliness (grabbing shit with your hands, gross). Scruffy country bumpkin :-p

No. We use cow dung extensively in the villages. It is a very good anti-germ agent. It is actually used to mop the floor with in houses with mud floors.

I have used it myself to mix in the Bio-gas plant at our farm house. Yes, I pick it up from the grazing area with my bare hands and mix it with water with my bare hands. :eek: :p

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/faces/4403.jpg

What the south Indian Saivite above has in his forehead is "thiruneer" - ash made from cow dung. Quite common for saivites to smear it across their forehead.

As much as I sing the praises of good manure, this is almost too much. Don't cows in India ever excrete manure with E-coli?

You can NOT be serious - the amount of flies I've seen attracted to manure, there's no way it's a good anti-germ agent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_dung
Cow dung is used primarily as a fertilizer. In recent times, the dung is collected and used as biogas which is used to generate electricity and heat. The gas is a rich source of methane and is used in rural areas of India to provide a renewable, stable and environment friendly source of electricity. Caked Cow dung is also used as a fuel to cook food in many parts of Asia and Africa.

Cow dung is also used to line the flooring and walls owing to its insect repellent properties. In cold places, cow dung is used to line the walls of rustic houses as it proves to be a superior and cheap insulator. Cow dung has an excellent mosquito repellent property and is used by many companies to produce repellents. It was also used extensively on Indian Railways to seal smokeboxes on steam locomotives.

Readers in cold or temperate countries should note that in hot dry countries such as India cow dung dries hard like cement and does not remain a wet smelly mess.

I certainly won't be visit your house where you clearly can't even smell shit and don't care about cleanliness (grabbing shit with your hands, gross). Scruffy country bumpkin :-p

lol. It is just our farmhouse...and our caretaker who lives there does this. My house is quite clean and if you visit, the only smelly person would be you.:p

I thought this had to do with making bombs from cow feces, what with the high levels of methan and all.

I didn't think it was just using raw cow shit, man. That's great.

Drop pork fat on the terrorists. Thatd make a lot of them freak out.

Drop pork fat on the terrorists. Thatd make a lot of them freak out.

Why not human heads? That would be even better.

i've always thought of that as a use for 5 cent coins. it'd be painful, cause damage and despite them being worth money, most people can't be bothered picking them up.
that and i've though of using 5 cent coins as ammo for a railgun
but the shit idea'd be brilliant, though probably considered a war crime

it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?

except that biological weapons treaties ban the use of disease and disease transmitting materials: of which cow feces is surely included.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_dung




lol. It is just our farmhouse...and our caretaker who lives there does this. My house is quite clean and if you visit, the only smelly person would be you.:p

Oh yeh because wikipedia's a brilliant "source" of information. It has all the attributes of quality reliable information:

1. It can be edited by anyone, anywhere, such as people who want to add stupid stuff for the fun of it

2. It's independently verified by... nobody.

3. It often doesn't state the sources of the information it "quotes".

I also refer you to except that biological weapons treaties ban the use of disease and disease transmitting materials: of which cow feces is surely included.

and

http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-2-21-829,00.html
"Cow manure may contain E. coli O157:H7, a very dangerous pathogen that can cause severe illness and even death. "It's hard to meet time and temperature requirements to kill pathogens in a home compost pile," says soil scientist Craig Cogger, Ph.D. We don't recommend adding it to home compost ever because of the health risk. But if you're tempted to use it, you must wait at least four months after you add it to your soil before you can harvest, to make sure the pathogens are no longer active. Wear gloves when handling manure and wash your hands thoroughly"

In addition I've seen cow manure close up - it ATTRACTS flies, as does just about every form of faeces, for which flies are designed to eat.

And yes, I would be the only person smelling - of anything nice. I'm pretty certain you would smell of shit considering your disgusting uncivilised habits (and that's not an attack on Indians in general, it's an attack on any Indian or other person who is as sickeningly unhygienic as yourself).

Oh yeh because wikipedia's a brilliant "source" of information. It has all the attributes of quality reliable information:

1. It can be edited by anyone, anywhere, such as people who want to add stupid stuff for the fun of it

2. It's independently verified by... nobody.

3. It often doesn't state the sources of the information it "quotes".

I also refer you to

and

http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-2-21-829,00.html
"Cow manure may contain E. coli O157:H7, a very dangerous pathogen that can cause severe illness and even death. "It's hard to meet time and temperature requirements to kill pathogens in a home compost pile," says soil scientist Craig Cogger, Ph.D. We don't recommend adding it to home compost ever because of the health risk. But if you're tempted to use it, you must wait at least four months after you add it to your soil before you can harvest, to make sure the pathogens are no longer active. Wear gloves when handling manure and wash your hands thoroughly"

In addition I've seen cow manure close up - it ATTRACTS flies, as does just about every form of faeces, for which flies are designed to eat.

And yes, I would be the only person smelling - of anything nice. I'm pretty certain you would smell of shit considering your disgusting uncivilised habits (and that's not an attack on Indians in general, it's an attack on any Indian or other person who is as sickeningly unhygienic as yourself).

Haven't you ever heard of Buffalo chips? They were used for fuel in the plains states. I'm pretty sure pioneers did just as Aryavartha does and built with the manure, too. And then, there are the annual cow chip tossing championships that a lot of the pioneer states hold every year.

Except for the E. Coli, cow manure is not bad stuff. Like I said, I would gladly plow in several hundred tons to help out this Georgia clay.

Oh yeh because wikipedia's a brilliant "source" of information. It has all the attributes of quality reliable information:

1. It can be edited by anyone, anywhere, such as people who want to add stupid stuff for the fun of it

2. It's independently verified by... nobody.

3. It often doesn't state the sources of the information it "quotes".
Just because it doesn't agree with you it doesn't make it wrong.
1) It can be edited by anyone, anywhere, such as people who want to fix mistakes.
2) It's verified by everyone, everywhere, who can then fix it if it's wrong.
3) Hence the warning banners when it doesn't. And it often does state its sources, too.

I present you: Britannica vs. Wikipedia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm).

And yes, I would be the only person smelling - of anything nice. I'm pretty certain you would smell of shit considering your disgusting uncivilised habits (and that's not an attack on Indians in general, it's an attack on any Indian or other person who is as sickeningly unhygienic as yourself).

This is quite funny considering your alleged inclusiveness ¬_¬
Just because not everybody lives in the middle of a city, as far from anything so terribly disgusting as plants and animals as possible, doesn't make them sickeningly unhygenic. Many things will offend your sensibilities considering your obviously overly sheltered, protected upbringing; bear in mind that many people may consider you a small-minded, city-dwelling, wannabe-hippy-but-scared-of-the-dirt weakling. Perhaps if you were prepared to leave your town and see the environment that allows it to exist you'd be less eager to damn it?

http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-2-21-829,00.html
"Cow manure may contain E. coli O157:H7, a very dangerous pathogen that can cause severe illness and even death. "It's hard to meet time and temperature requirements to kill pathogens in a home compost pile," says soil scientist Craig Cogger, Ph.D. We don't recommend adding it to home compost ever because of the health risk. But if you're tempted to use it, you must wait at least four months after you add it to your soil before you can harvest, to make sure the pathogens are no longer active. Wear gloves when handling manure and wash your hands thoroughly"
*wonders if you read your sources*

In addition I've seen cow manure close up - it ATTRACTS flies, as does just about every form of faeces, for which flies are designed to eat.

:eek: You've seen cow manure?! Well you must surely be an expert!:p

Is it treated with Psilocybe Cubensis spores first?


An interesting method of resolving conflict. Mycotoxicological warfare.

http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-2-21-829,00.html
[I]"Cow manure may contain E. coli O157:H7, a very dangerous pathogen that can cause severe illness and even death.

Obviously I am not dead. I have been handling cow manure since I was 10 up until I left the state for work in north India. And millions and millions of people do that every day for millenniums. I have never heard of anybody die from E.Coli or whatever. Maybe if you eat it, you may die. Definitely not by handling it.

I'm pretty certain you would smell of shit considering your disgusting uncivilised habits (and that's not an attack on Indians in general, it's an attack on any Indian or other person who is as sickeningly unhygienic as yourself).

lol. It is not like you carry it in your pocket. You wash your hands or take a bath after handling it, silly.

Herbivore shit's not so bad. People are really happy to be given manure from my family's horses.

Human or dog excrament, for instance, is far, far less pleasant and much worse for you.

Yes, but they receive it in a controlled manner. I bet they don't catch a (possibly frozen) horse apple in the back of the head that's been air dropped from several thousand feet up :)

Seriously though I think it would count as biological warfare :).

In medieval times an army siegeing a castle would catapult decomposing dead cows bodies over the enemy's castle wall. That caused more disease a much greater stench than cows manure would.

In medieval times an army siegeing a castle would catapult decomposing dead cows bodies over the enemy's castle wall. That caused more disease a much greater stench than cows manure would.

FRENCH GUARD:
(Fetchez la vache!)
[mooo]
ARTHUR:
If you do not agree to my commands, then I shall--
[twong]

[mooooooo]
Jesus Christ!
KNIGHTS:
Christ!
[thud]
Ah! Ohh!
ARTHUR:
Right! Charge!

In addition I've seen cow manure close up - it ATTRACTS flies, as does just about every form of faeces, for which flies are designed to eat.

You don't understand how cow chips are being used, and I just realised that it's because you're from the UK. In drier, warmer climes, such as India (Aryavartha) and Texas (me), cow feces dry up very quickly. Yes, a fresh cow pie (pat, to you) will attract flies. But dried ones don't really.

it wouldn't require loads of expensive technical stuff, it doesn't kill people, and someone dropping it from a plane all over your country would almost certainly be very unwelcome - would using cow manure as an alternative to bombs be a good idea?
Actually that would be considered a bio-weapon (bacteria and whatnot) and is banned internationally. Using cowshit bombs would constitue a war crime. It's really not that far from catapulting plague corpses into enemy camps to sicken troops.

agreed. great idea.

You don't seem to understand. This would be a bio-weapon and is outlawed internationally.