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I've just been thinking about this. What if Prussia never succeeded in unifying Germany? Would Austria remain the dominant German power? Would the German Confederation ever amount to anything?

I've just been thinking about this. What if Prussia never succeeded in unifying Germany? Would Austria remain the dominant German power? Would the German Confederation ever amount to anything?

Clearly Poland would have became the dominant power in central Europe.

Clearly Poland would have became the dominant power in central Europe.

Poland didn't exist...

Poland didn't exist...

Depends on when you're talking. It didn't exist as a state for some time, but there were definitely Poles there.

Poland didn't exist...

Just because some bureaucrats took it off the map doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Poland didn't exist...

Yeah, it didn't. I think Ginn is joking or something. Or he is just really really in need of a history lesson.

Why the idea of having Prussian not unify Germany, the 13 states, is kinda fun to think about. It would mean a lot fo fundamental change in Prussia to the degree that Prussia stopped being the Prussia all of us know and love.

If for whatever reason the political landscape of Europe was relatively the same, but by lacking a dominant Prussia I believe that's hard to explain, I would say France and Austria would become the dominant powers. Being instead of a Britain against Germany feel, we would have a Austria versus France thing going. With the ultimate victor being whoever had America (please, no why America did or did not win WWI and II, just a fact that we can discuss in another thread) on their side.

In general Germany would be absorbed much in the same way Austria was. For permanent territory allocations: Austria would get everything south of the Danube, or maybe a little north of it, Denmark would most likely retake some of its former glory by getting down to Kiel, Russia would get a slice, France would get everything east of the Rhine and who knows what kind of countries would pop up? Yet the general one race landscape of Germany would ensure that most of Germany would still be Germany.

Other things may include France taking control of Belgium and/or the Netherlands. Britain would become more of the role France played in WWI and II, if fundamentally more powerful. Ukraine would maybe become independent, depending on the outcome of WWI. Tsar's would still topple, Austria would get some of Russia in WWI, Greece would become a puppet state of Austria no doubt, but this is all pie in the sky.


That's what I get from it.

Yeah, it didn't. I think Ginn is joking or something. Or he is just really really in need of a history lesson.


No. The mighty Polish army, with their unstoppable cavalry, would easily decimate their neighbors in World War I, launching it to superpower status in no time.

No. The mighty Polish army, with their unstoppable cavalry, would easily decimate their neighbors in World War I, launching it to superpower status in no time.

Oh thank Jesus, he was joking. Don't want to be seen as sarcastic, but it seems you know your history.

I've just been thinking about this. What if Prussia never succeeded in unifying Germany?They might've never had to send their poorest seed to Australia Would Austria remain the dominant German power? Would the German Confederation ever amount to anything?Nah, not much.

I have my doubts about whither world war one would of broken out especially since one of the major causes was a new power in central Europe with this said there might not of been any unified resistance to Russia in eastern Europe causing a great deal of havoc, of course this means that a new camp would appear to replace Germanys that being Russia and so WWI would break about between France and maybe Britain against Russia

At least that’s what my limited knowledge would tell me Germany has always been more of a distraction to keep western Europe and Russia at peace (example being the triple entente pre-WWI)

I have my doubts about whither world war one would of broken out especially since one of the major causes was a new power in central Europe with this said there might not of been any unified resistance to Russia in eastern Europe causing a great deal of havoc, of course this means that a new camp would appear to replace Germanys that being Russia and so WWI would break about between France and maybe Britain against Russia

At least that’s what my limited knowledge would tell me Germany has always been more of a distraction to keep western Europe and Russia at peace (example being the triple entente pre-WWI)

Well it sounds interesting, I still support my idea that it would be a new Austria to replace Germany. So Russia and France-England would still continue to have WWI and II against a new Continental power.