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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237559,00.html

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Tuesday night that a comprehensive cease-fire had been agreed to in the volatile Gaza Strip after more than a week of factional violence there.

The truce was to take effect at 11 p.m. (2100 GMT), he told reporters.

"There will be a comprehensive cease-fire in Gaza to end all military demonstrations, all shooting will stop and random deployments (of armed men) will end," he said.

And Hamas P.M. is calling for an end to this fighting so that they can unite in their struggle against Israel.

Hopefully this cease-fire will hold but i'm not 100% certain it will so I will not hold my breath on it lasting through the elections.

Following thier history of respecting cease-fires, it shouldn't last long.

See! Who says Israel isn't a force for peace in the Middle East?

And-.....
cease-fire broke within less than a day.

Allegheny, as you can see, no one really cares about this issue as I found out when I made a thread about this problem a couple of days ago. Sad. :(

It is good however that events seem to be stablizing.

Allegheny, as you can see, no one really cares about this issue as I found out when I made a thread about this problem a couple of days ago. Sad. :(

It is good however that events seem to be stablizing.

I guess no one truly cares if Palestinians are killing eachother. They only care when Jews kill Palestinians. You are right it is sad.

Hopefully it will stabilize.

Allegheny, as you can see, no one really cares about this issue as I found out when I made a thread about this problem a couple of days ago. Sad. :(

It is good however that events seem to be stablizing.

Its not that, it's just that it'll be back to 'the norm' in a day or so. These 'cease fires' never really last that long sadly.

Its not that, it's just that it'll be back to 'the norm' in a day or so. These 'cease fires' never really last that long sadly.

I have to agree with Allegheny that if this issue involved the Israelis directly then there would be much more interest in this problem.

I guess no one truly cares if Palestinians are killing eachother. They only care when Jews kill Palestinians. You are right it is sad.

Hopefully it will stabilize.

Yes it IS sad that people only get angry about Jews killing Palestinians, but they don't seem to mind it the other way around (i.e., Palestinians killing Jews), or else they pretend it doesn't happen the other way around, but it DOES.

I have to agree with Allegheny that if this issue involved the Israelis directly then there would be much more interest in this problem.

Exactly; everybody would be railing on Israel for committing the heinous (heavy sarcasm) act of SELF-DEFENSE.

I have to agree with Allegheny that if this issue involved the Israelis directly then there would be much more interest in this problem.
Well that is true.

Yes it IS sad that people only get angry about Jews killing Palestinians, but they don't seem to mind it the other way around (i.e., Palestinians killing Jews), or else they pretend it doesn't happen the other way around, but it DOES.

I know it does. I just wish that people would care more about those caught in the cross-fire on all sides of this conflict.

See! Who says Israel isn't a force for peace in the Middle East?

The Palestinians say it; they want to drive Israel into the Mediterranean Sea.

:( I post on the 'Nazis or Israel' post, occasionally the Zionism post and now here and everybody seems to answer everybody else's post but mine *cries herself out*:(

Exactly; everybody would be railing on Israel for committing the heinous (heavy sarcasm) act of SELF-DEFENSE.

No, its just no-one gives a rats ass about the Palestinians.

It's like Africa in a way.

The Palestinians say it; they want to drive Israel into the Mediterranean Sea.

Hamas has stated it. Hamas =/= all of Palestine.

:( I post on the 'Nazis or Israel' post, occasionally the Zionism post and now here and everybody seems to answer everybody else's post but mine *cries herself out*:(

So what's your proof that Hamas or Fatah have violated the cease-fire between them?

No, its just no-one gives a rats ass about the Palestinians.

It's like Africa in a way.

Or maybe no one responded on my thread because no one likes me. :eek: :(

*gets paranoid*

No, its just no-one gives a rats ass about the Palestinians.

It's like Africa in a way.

Regretably.

So what's your proof that Hamas or Fatah have violated the cease-fire between them?

Only that it was all over all the media here.

They are currently in a civil war.

Hamas has stated it. Hamas =/= all of Palestine.

Yes but the Palestinians elected Hamas and Hamas is known for its extremist opinion of Israel.

Yes but the Palestinians elected Hamas and Hamas is known for its extremist opinion of Israel.

True that they did but there were alot of reasons for that to occur.

I'm not sure if you can say this cease fire is really a good or a bad thing. After all, it is stopping the Palestinians from killing the Israelis at the moment, although I'm not taking into account how successful they may be when killing each other as opposed to the Israelis. Not that Palestinian lives are worth less than Israeli lives, but they're not worth more, either.

True that they did but there were alot of reasons for that to occur.

IIRC corruption was a big one.

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And Hamas P.M. is calling for an end to this fighting so that they can unite in their struggle against Israel.

Hopefully this cease-fire will hold but i'm not 100% certain it will so I will not hold my breath on it lasting through the elections.

Well, it would be good because its a cease fire, but bad because they're only doing to try to kill Isreal.

Well, it would be good because its a cease fire, but bad because they're only doing to try to kill Isreal.

At least Hamas is.

At least Hamas is.

Hamas would do well to at least pretend to negotiate with Israel. They are not going to do well internationally if they keep on talking about destroying Israel. But I suppose rationality doesn't always come into play.

Hamas would do well to at least pretend to negotiate with Israel. They are not going to do well internationally if they keep on talking about destroying Israel. But I suppose rationality doesn't always come into play.

Asking Hamas to negotiate is like inviting Hitler to a Holocaust Memorial.

Asking Hamas to negotiate is like inviting Hitler to a Holocaust Memorial.

The political side of Hamas needs to at least pretend if they want the international community to truly accept them. And international acceptance is neccessary if they wish to stand for very long.

The political side of Hamas needs to at least pretend if they want the international community to truly accept them. And international acceptance is neccessary if they wish to stand for very long.

Yep yep. I agree with you 100%

No, its just no-one gives a rats ass about the Palestinians.

It's like Africa in a way.

Indeed. They are deemed "ok to die" for some reason.

And I called it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061220/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians

Two Fatah policemen killed in Gaza

By IBRAHIM BARZAK, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 1 minute ago

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas gunmen killed two Palestinian policemen loyal to the rival
Fatah movement early Wednesday, hours after the sides agreed to a new cease-fire meant to end more than a week of factional fighting.

And I called it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061220/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians

Two Fatah policemen killed in Gaza

By IBRAHIM BARZAK, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 1 minute ago

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas gunmen killed two Palestinian policemen loyal to the rival
Fatah movement early Wednesday, hours after the sides agreed to a new cease-fire meant to end more than a week of factional fighting.

Looks as if the cease-fire is holding though. I think though that another incident by Hamas and the chaos that could result would be irreversible. :(

Looks as if the cease-fire is holding though. I think though that another incident by Hamas and the chaos that could result would be irreversible. :(

Either by Hamas or by Fatah could result in something irreversible.

Looks as if the cease-fire is holding though. I think though that another incident by Hamas and the chaos that could result would be irreversible. :(

What does the word "ceasefire" mean to you?

The week-old wave of violence in Gaza appeared to be diminishing Monday after warring Palestinian groups said they had negotiated a truce.

Far fewer gunmen were seen in the streets than in the preceding days, but fighting still broke out in the middle of Gaza City early Monday, when about two dozen masked militants from the rival groups, armed with rifles, grenades and rocket launchers, faced off in a gunbattle that left a 16-year-old bystander with a bullet wound in the neck.

Sporadic violence continued into the evening. Masked militants shot and seriously wounded a Fatah member in Gaza City, and Hamas loyalists burned down the shop of a brother of a local Fatah leader in northern Gaza and kidnapped another brother. Masked gunmen also kidnapped the brother of a Fatah lawmaker, officials said.

Fatah militants responded by burning down a Hamas office and kidnapping a local Hamas leader.

Despite the violence, both sides said they would honor the cease-fire.

If that's what they mean by "honoring" a "ceasefire", I'd hate to see what they mean by a "peace agreement".

Either by Hamas or by Fatah could result in something irreversible.

I have more confidence in Fatah actually honoring the cease-fire, Hamas I am less sure.

What does the word "ceasefire" mean to you?



If that's what they mean by "honoring" a "ceasefire", I'd hate to see what they mean by a "peace agreement".

You are always going to have idiots who violate the cease-fire.