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Sorry if this is getting to personal. But we've had ethnic ones, so why not ones on sexual orientation?

I'm bi, personally.

I could have used one in High School. Or even college :(

my penis points north

Alcoholic.

Booze and work have crippled my sex drive. It's coming back over break, but for the past quarter I doubted I could have got it up if I tried.

All the same, straight.

Straight

and Abstinent, but not by choice :(

<hasn't had a gf in 2 years :(

I'm gay but with a few heterosexual urges now and then. Not enough to consider myself bi though.

my penius fire like :mp5:
and make children like :gundge:

my penius fire like :mp5:
and make children like :gundge:

How informative.

I think you meant "asexual" rather than "abstinent."

As for me, I have a button that says "Straight But Not Narrow." I always thought that summed it up rather well. :)

I think you meant "asexual" rather than "abstinent."

As for me, I have a button that says "Straight But Not Narrow." I always thought that summed it up rather well. :)

No, asexual means you have no gender. Abstinent means you don't have sex.

No. Asexual means you're not attracted to either sex.

I'm gay.

No, asexual means you have no gender. Abstinent means you don't have sex.

Nope. Asexual (in regard to sexual orientation and not biology) means you feel no sexual attraction. Abstinent means you choose not to have sex. The vast majority of abstinent people still feel sexual desire, trust me. :)

Lesbian stuck in a gay guy's body who is into other lesbians stuck into gay guy's bodies... hot bodies at that.

Clear? :)

Lesbian stuck in a gay guy's body who is into other lesbians stuck into gay guy's bodies... hot bodies at that.

Clear? :)*raises an eyebrow*

with the options you've listed this poll should be multiple choice. i vote bi, but i'm also largely abstinant because i am scared of sex, yet i would shag anything with a pulse as long as they could persuade me it wasn't wrong.

with the options you've listed this poll should be multiple choice. i vote bi, but i'm also largely abstinant because i am scared of sex, yet i would shag anything with a pulse as long as they could persuade me it wasn't wrong.
I'm not offering, but I can assure you: it's not wrong. *pats*

Lesbian stuck in a gay guy's body who is into other lesbians stuck into gay guy's bodies... hot bodies at that.

Clear? :)

You're a masculine gay guy apparently. :p

Okay. I was wrong about the asexual/abstinent thing.


Man, no transexuals or necrophiles on NSG?

Straight

and Abstinent, but not by choice :(

<hasn't had a gf in 2 years :(
ah quit yer whining, i haven't had a girlfriend ever. that means 6 years of legal sexual activity unused.

gigady gigady goo :p

I'm not offering, but I can assure you: it's not wrong. *pats*


*takes patronisation with teh pinch of salt*

yeh well, i hate being desperate. i'm too shallow to be desperate *grumbles at self). i should be a complete slut but i don't know how to put myself out there.

gigady gigady goo :p

Braindead?

*takes patronisation with teh pinch of salt*

yeh well, i hate being desperate. i'm too shallow to be desperate *grumbles at self). i should be a complete slut but i don't know how to put myself out there.
Buh?

'Twasn't patronizing, 'twas supposed to be soothing.

Don't be desperate. Nobody wants to be desperate. Desperate sucks.

And just because I say it's not wrong doesn't mean you should become a complete slut! (Maybe I was confused by the "I'm scared" and "they have to tell me it's not wrong" - looks like I didn't quite get what you meant there).

And just because I say it's not wrong doesn't mean you should become a complete slut! (Maybe I was confused by the "I'm scared" and "they have to tell me it's not wrong" - looks like I didn't quite get what you meant there).

Meh, nothing wrong with complete slutitude now and again.

Meh, nothing wrong with complete slutitude now and again.

Depends. There's something wrong with it if you get pregnant or get STDs. But otherwise it probably won't screw anything up much.

Buh?

'Twasn't patronizing, 'twas supposed to be soothing.

Don't be desperate. Nobody wants to be desperate. Desperate sucks.

And just because I say it's not wrong doesn't mean you should become a complete slut! (Maybe I was confused by the "I'm scared" and "they have to tell me it's not wrong" - looks like I didn't quite get what you meant there).

no your not confused, i'm just conflicted.

i am desperate. i am also afraid of intimacy. i also have ridiculous difficulty with asking anyone out. and if people ask me out i automatically say no wothout a thought. i would sleep with anyone who wnated me but i set my standards too high. unfortunately for me i am very shallow and at the same time a bit of a romantic, so i have very specific standards and therefore have never had a girlfriend. (there's other reasons too of course but those are what i identify at the moment)

Lesbian stuck in a gay guy's body who is into other lesbians stuck into gay guy's bodies... hot bodies at that.

Clear? :)

So you're a gay lesbian who's into hard gay male lesbians.....

No wait you're a gay guy who digs the hot lesbian man on man action...

Or....

No really, I don't get it.

Personally, I like boobs. But not of the man kind.

no your not confused, i'm just conflicted.

i am desperate. i am also afraid of intimacy. i also have ridiculous difficulty with asking anyone out. and if people ask me out i automatically say no wothout a thought. i would sleep with anyone who wnated me but i set my standards too high. unfortunately for me i am very shallow and at the same time a bit of a romantic, so i have very specific standards and therefore have never had a girlfriend. (there's other reasons too of course but those are what i identify at the moment)
Baby, you're being difficult. :mad: :p

There is no catchy quick-fix that comes to mind for these rather convoluted and conflicting feelings, so I'll just have to stay useless and give you naught but a :fluffle:.

You're a masculine gay guy apparently. :p
Feminazi unfortunate enough to be caught in a male's body, pure and simple. ;) Put this (http://www.celestialheavens.com/homm5/images/creatures/dun_art/Dun6_witch.jpg) into a guy's body, and you get the picture.

So you're a gay lesbian who's into hard gay male lesbians.....

No wait you're a gay guy who digs the hot lesbian man on man action...

Or....

No really, I don't get it.

Personally, I like boobs. But not of the man kind.
See above. :)

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

:)

i know i'm being difficult, it's just how my mind works. i'm a free living liberal stuck in a prude's body. it sucks, and someday i'll beat the prude within. i had a dream last night that i successfully asked out a girl i've wanted to see for ages so i'm treating that as a positive sign! :D

I am... as the Internet sluts say it... str8. :D

Man, no . . . necrophiles on NSG?
Its not the sort of thing many people would own up to, is it? All the same, c'est moi.
No, asexual means you have no gender. Abstinent means you don't have sex.
Asexual means that one reproduces by budding or regeneration or something (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction), which, as I understand, is rather uncommon among humans.

Sorry if this is getting to personal. But we've had ethnic ones, so why not ones on sexual orientation?

I'm bi, personally.
I'm straight. Pretty much. But anywho, you should stop making threads, there are like 5 new ones everyday.

I'm straight. Pretty much. But anywho, you should stop making threads, there are like 5 new ones everyday.

Never.


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Well, my original post was before there was a poll. The poll is missing autosexual, those whose majority of orgasms are achieved without aid of a (real) partner.

My name might imply otherwise but I am a straight woman

Straight, still a virgin, and feeling a little aroused. :)

Heterosexual but unwillingly abstinent. :p

Feminazi unfortunate enough to be caught in a male's body, pure and simple. ;) Put this (http://www.celestialheavens.com/homm5/images/creatures/dun_art/Dun6_witch.jpg) into a guy's body, and you get the picture.

Same clothing? :D

i really dont know mine

Asexual means that one reproduces by budding or regeneration or something (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction), which, as I understand, is rather uncommon among humans.

Asexual means both. Asexual basically means without sex. Some things reproduce without sex. Others have no sexual desires.

The word bisexual used to mean people with two sexes. AKA hermaphrodites. Often used, in the past. for mythological beings who were both male and female.

Bisexual. I refuse to categorize myself as "bi."

I'm Straight, but this theory has never been confirmed, nor proven false.

Straight but a virgin.

Straight but like having shit loads of woman around me

Straight but like having shit loads of woman around me

You make it sound like your a straight woman with Lesbian curiosity.

Woohoo!

You make it sound like your a straight woman with Lesbian curiosity.


if someone happy to think that let them
i no long have much of it
apart of marrying my lady monday in secret

Decidedly gay. Not in the queeny, flamy way. But in the "I need a man right now" sort of way.

Aussies may apply and move to the head of the line, they are less uptight than my American brethren. Plus, living near Bondi beach would be spiffy!

;)

Straight , married and decidedly NOT looking for a good aussie. But if I happen to run one over on the freeway, I'll box the pieces up and mail him to you^ WIll you accept the postage?

Personally I find it all a waste of time. There are far more productive things to do with one's time than get involved in stuff like that. I could quite easily name a ton of people that were successful and never got involved in stuff like that. Sir Isaac Newton and Queen Elizabeth I spring to mind.

Trans isn't a sexual orientation, which is why you had to put gay and straight in brackets. But no Trans (bi)? Oh so many trans people are bi.

Personally I find it all a waste of time. There are far more productive things to do with one's time than get involved in stuff like that. I could quite easily name a ton of people that were successful and never got involved in stuff like that. Sir Isaac Newton and Queen Elizabeth I spring to mind.

Queen Elizabeth I never got involved in checkin' out hotties? That contradicts positively every account of her life I have ever read.

She did die a virgin Queen though - it was thanks to her that the British Empire was formed

Decidedly gay. Not in the queeny, flamy way. But in the "I need a man right now" sort of way.

Aussies may apply and move to the head of the line, they are less uptight than my American brethren. Plus, living near Bondi beach would be spiffy!

;)

Bondi beach seems to be mostly New Zealanders.




(straight btw)

Straight. Str8. Seriously, straight. Seriously straight. So straight, even my funny bone's straight. So straight I make a stack of 2 x 4's look like a plate of spaghetti.

Did I mention that I'm straight?

And definitely not a virgin. :D

> is soooo impressed<

Do you have a hariy chest and a big mustache as well? Just askin:D

She did die a virgin Queen though - it was thanks to her that the British Empire was formed

Elizabeth I was certainly awesome. However, it's worth keeping in mind that in the 1500s, a female's only acknowledged options were "virgin" or "married." This does not actually mean that these were a female's only options, especially when that female is in a position of power such that she can easily behead you if you suggest that, for example, she and the Earl of Leicester have been getting their respective freaks on like happy little bunnies. :p

Queen Elizabeth I never got involved in checkin' out hotties? That contradicts positively every account of her life I have ever read.

Yeah. Blackadder says different. :) :p

WELL I NEVER! You saying Liz was a slut? That she liked a good ankle throw? That maybe she was a bit spavined? Show me proof. I need a bloody bedsheet to be sure.:p

Wow, more people are polling as Bi than as Gay.
I guess we do exist.

Sorry if this is getting to personal. But we've had ethnic ones, so why not ones on sexual orientation?

I'm bi, personally.

Avian.

Um, I mean, gay.

Okay. I was wrong about the asexual/abstinent thing.


Man, no transexuals or necrophiles on NSG?

well i have never indulged but for quite a while most of my fantasies used to involve death, dying, blood and corpses (not necessarily still warm but fresh)... so i've put the necrophile option... either way it doesn't really matter, i'm not getting any anyway :(

no your not confused, i'm just conflicted.

i am desperate. i am also afraid of intimacy. i also have ridiculous difficulty with asking anyone out. and if people ask me out i automatically say no wothout a thought. i would sleep with anyone who wnated me but i set my standards too high. unfortunately for me i am very shallow and at the same time a bit of a romantic, so i have very specific standards and therefore have never had a girlfriend. (there's other reasons too of course but those are what i identify at the moment)

just give it a try for a few days with the closest friend that will go out with you... it will change everything... you don't even have to have sex, just get intimate

Its not the sort of thing many people would own up to, is it? All the same, c'est moi.


uhm... and how do you get round to actually getting any?:headbang:

My option is not on the poll. :mad:

I'm quite offended that you didn't put "Syrupphile".




However, I'll have to settle for straight.

Decidedly gay. Not in the queeny, flamy way. But in the "I need a man right now" sort of way.

Aussies may apply and move to the head of the line, they are less uptight than my American brethren. Plus, living near Bondi beach would be spiffy!

;)

I'm gay, but not sure why there is such a facination with orientation.

Perhaps you should stipulate "Nice Aussies". No one wants an unfortunate looking male specimen. I happen to like Americans (British myself though. Please don't hold it against me lol!) "Spiffy" - Is that still a word?!?

I'm gay, but not sure why there is such a facination with orientation.


Organized religion.

Organized religion.

Ahhhhhh - On that note and off topic, I'm agnostic.

with the options you've listed this poll should be multiple choice. i vote bi, but i'm also largely abstinant because i am scared of sex, yet i would shag anything with a pulse as long as they could persuade me it wasn't wrong.

I happen to like Americans (British myself though. Please don't hold it against me lol!) "If I said you had a nice body, would you hold it against me?"

Abstinent by my girlfriend's choice. =P No fear of God, just fear of children. Fear of children trumps God by FAR.

The insane quantities of caffeine I ingest probably aren't good for my sex drive either.

Abstinent by my girlfriend's choice. =P No fear of God, just fear of children. Fear of children trumps God by FAR.Oral sex doesn't lead to pregnancy...

necrophilia doesn't either:D

Oral sex doesn't lead to pregnancy...
Hey! You're right! Huh, we're just too lazy then. XD

You didn't put an asexual option. "Abstinent" doesn't cover it, because abstinence implies that there is a desire for sex and sexual attraction to others in the first place and it's being ignored or suppressed by choice. That is not the case, since I don't have any sexual attraction or sex drive to choose to act on or not.

Same clothing? :D
Even though they would probably look good on my slender body, no. I do have longish hair though. :) The whip is purely optional.

Bisexual. I refuse to categorize myself as "bi."
Yet again you surprise me. According to Fass those don't exist, but I think he is just being bitter.

Oral sex doesn't lead to pregnancy...
One fallacy at a time. :) First the poor souls ought to be told that evolution isn't a myth.

Organized religion.
That, and pure curiosity (a euphemism for nosiness) on part of some.

According to Fass those don't exist, but I think he is just being bitter.


When is he not? ;) :p

One fallacy at a time. :) First the poor souls ought to be told that evolution isn't a myth..

:p

QFT!

When is he not? ;) :p

err never :p

When is he not? ;) :p
Good question. I doubt anyone other than Fass will ever know. ;)

Yet again you surprise me.

What assumption did I destroy?

According to Fass those don't exist

My existence can be legitimately questioned on a number of grounds, but I don't think that's a very good one.

What assumption did I destroy?
None really, just genuine surprise I suppose. As I have said before, most of the time I am debating with you on unrelated matters, so I tend to isolate you from such traits.

my penis points northThat must be inconvenient when you have to make sudden turns. You could really get your knickers in a twist..

Nope. Asexual (in regard to sexual orientation and not biology) means you feel no sexual attraction. Abstinent means you choose not to have sex. The vast majority of abstinent people still feel sexual desire, trust me. :)
Heterosexual but unwillingly abstinent. :pSo, deprived might be a better word then ;)

She did die a virgin Queen though - it was thanks to her that the British Empire was formedAh, the power of sexual frustration. What can't it do?

Sorry if this is getting to personal. But we've had ethnic ones, so why not ones on sexual orientation?I'm still orientating; current status: deprived.
Oddly enough, I suspect I might be heterophile. If by some magical morphic mishap I woke up tomorrow as a girl, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility I might be attracted to guys; even though as a guy I'm not. Maybe I'm like those fish that change sex when the demography is skewed too much out of proportion. I'd likely still like girls too, but nearly any guy would say that. So perhaps a combination of heterophilia and gynophilia.
Not sure about actual sex though. Seems like a messy business; to quote I-can't-remember-who, "especially if done right".

I have to admit to being very confused over many years. I have never acted out what's been in my mind but I do know that I feel a lot better now since I've first checked out the following link.....

www.g0ys.com (spelled with a zero)

It made me feel a lot more comfortable on who I am. I hate caterozing and labeling of others.

I have been very confused for the longest time. I have never acted on any of my fantasies or attractions. I have kept them all in my mind. I have never liked the labeling or categorizing and have always considered myself to be straight. I have had girlfriends in the past but is currently single and unfortunately abstinant. Anyways, the following link has made me a lot more comfortable with what's inside my mind and more comfortable knowing there is more people who think like me. Still single, still abstinant. :(

g0ys.org (spelled with a zero)

my penis points north

Your penis is a magnet? :eek:

Most likely straight. The thought of sex with another man does not repulse me, but sofar no man has awoken any such desire in me (while women have). But never say never.

Bisexual here... in the sense that I'm attrackted to both men and women. Haven't been in a serious relationship with a woman yet, though.

I am either asexual straight or just hyposexual. I really cant tell.

By the way...for those of you confused about what an asexual is and how there can be varying levels just like with homo/heterosexuality, let me pull out my MS paint chart.

Hetero/homosexuality are mutually inclusive. You can have different levels of both. Most people simply tend to fall somewhere in the heterosexual box. I am somewhere in the bottom center.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7448/sexualitychartjp0.png

Bisexual, I'm not sure why Soheran doesn't like the shortened form.

For some reason, I have a great fear of someone feeling attracted to me.

I'm bi, but physcially, I think all girls are bi. It really does matter to me if its a guy or a girl, as long as they treat me right.

Dang, my awesome chart just barely didnt make it to the next page, now no one will read it. =(


Also, asexuality doesnt mean abstanence which others have mentinoed. Its also not "deprived" as one guy called it. I would make a comparison to not having sex as not using heroin, but at least heroin is euphoric, so let me think of a better one?

You are the one deprived, there is something wrong with you because you dont find the sight of a 3x3cm rock a euphoric experience. It boggles my mind how you could function in society.

Honestly, I have had sex and it was boring as hell. I have no desire to be bored. I must admit, it is fun stopping halfway through to go eat a yogurt or cheese or something before continuing.

I am straight, but I put wafflephilo or whatever.

Hehe, the thought just rang a bell within me.

I am either asexual straight or just hyposexual. I really cant tell.

By the way...for those of you confused about what an asexual is and how there can be varying levels just like with homo/heterosexuality, let me pull out my MS paint chart.

Hetero/homosexuality are mutually inclusive. You can have different levels of both. Most people simply tend to fall somewhere in the heterosexual box. I am somewhere in the bottom center.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7448/sexualitychartjp0.png

I'm aromantic asexual, which I guess would be in the bottom-left corner.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7448/sexualitychartjp0.png

Where do you place the people for whom the gender aspect is irrelevant to determine sexual attraction ? (Like some people for instance could not care less about haircolour).

Bisexual doesn't quite cover it; since hermaphrodites, transgendered people and people without any genitalia would also be included.

Not to mention species...
yes, sex is complex ;)

hyposexualGreat word!
I think I'll try and work it into a few conversations..

Also, asexuality doesnt mean abstanence which others have mentinoed. Its also not "deprived" as one guy called it. I didn't call either abstinence nor asexuallity 'deprived', it's just a fourth option.
Asexuality is when you don't want sex. Abstinence when you want sex, but choose not to. And you're deprived of sex when you want it, but can't get it regardless of choice.

Where do you place the people for whom the gender aspect is irrelevant to determine sexual attraction ?On the diagonal, I'd imagine. No prefernce to either side.
Of course, I'm not convinced it's not a false dichotomy in the first place.

I didn't call either abstinence nor asexuallity 'deprived', it's just a fourth option.
Asexuality is when you don't want sex. Abstinence when you want sex, but choose not to. And you're deprived of sex when you want it, but can't get it regardless of choice.

On the diagonal, I'd imagine. No prefernce to either side.
Of course, I'm not convinced it's not a false dichotomy in the first place.

Oh, okay, I just misread your post.

Where do you place the people for whom the gender aspect is irrelevant to determine sexual attraction ? (Like some people for instance could not care less about haircolour).

Bisexual doesn't quite cover it; since hermaphrodites, transgendered people and people without any genitalia would also be included.

Not to mention species...
yes, sex is complex ;)

Well, most of the hermaphrodites and trasngenderd people I have met had a specific gender that they were attracted too, as well as themselves adopting more mannerisms of a specific gender but as with everything involving human psychology, there are never absoultes.

You do bring up an interesting idea though, but until there is some kind of three dimentional chart deveopled, I guess we are stuck with this one (unless you use Kinsys, which sucks imo.)

Asexual. Sorry, im very boring like that. People deliberately misinterpreting the term 'asexual' will be shot. as that seems to happen in every thread of this nature and people should have worked out what it means in this context.

Asexual. Sorry, im very boring like that. People deliberately misinterpreting the term 'asexual' will be shot. as that seems to happen in every thread of this nature and people should have worked out what it means in this context.

Yeah, they should have. But people always seem to misinterpret it when I say it, or just say that it's impossible. It's annoying. It's also annoying that there is no poll option for it, and no "other" option, either. So I can't even vote on this poll.

I love the range of options. I picked even if it doesn't have a heartbeat based off my ascertian that Ill 'tap' "Everthing that moves and some things that don't"

Btw I'm Pan

Pan being where gender etc. doesn't matter.

Of course, if there are preferences it gets more complex. I work on a 5* system.

I am either asexual straight or just hyposexual. I really cant tell.

By the way...for those of you confused about what an asexual is and how there can be varying levels just like with homo/heterosexuality, let me pull out my MS paint chart.

Hetero/homosexuality are mutually inclusive. You can have different levels of both. Most people simply tend to fall somewhere in the heterosexual box. I am somewhere in the bottom center.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7448/sexualitychartjp0.png

one day some one may be in the middle of that

Yeah, they should have. But people always seem to misinterpret it when I say it, or just say that it's impossible. It's annoying. It's also annoying that there is no poll option for it, and no "other" option, either. So I can't even vote on this poll.


Ho-ho. The old "it's impossible" idea :rolleyes: Still, not as irritating as the "you must be homosexual and in denial" argument or "pretending to be asexual to cover up weird fetishes" argument. Quite why the idea that there are people who don't spend their entire days thinking about bonking makes people's heads explode with incomprehension i'll never know. *Destroys world*. And in other news, that is indeed a poll of the very annoying variety. If only i could hack it so all the options showed "HAHAHAHA n00b you suck at teh polling! :mp5: LOL!"

C'mon, other what?

Other: I prefer dogs
Other: I prefer cats
Other: I like pie...I mean REALLY like pie...

Ho-ho. The old "it's impossible" idea :rolleyes: Still, not as irritating as the "you must be homosexual and in denial" argument or "pretending to be asexual to cover up weird fetishes" argument. Quite why the idea that there are people who don't spend their entire days thinking about bonking makes people's heads explode with incomprehension i'll never know. *Destroys world*. And in other news, that is indeed a poll of the very annoying variety. If only i could hack it so all the options showed "HAHAHAHA n00b you suck at teh polling! :mp5: LOL!"

Yeah, I've heard that one before, too. They usually say the "impossible" part first, and then after I show that it's not, they go with the "homosexual in denial" argument. It is really annoying, and usually quite predictable. I don't think I'll ever understand why people don't understand it, either.

I don't think I'll ever understand why people don't understand it, either.They think the world revolves around sex. Their world view simply doesn't allow for the fact it simply revolves around the sun.

Yeah, I've heard that one before, too. They usually say the "impossible" part first, and then after I show that it's not, they go with the "homosexual in denial" argument. It is really annoying, and usually quite predictable. I don't think I'll ever understand why people don't understand it, either.

It's actually quite understandable to me.

They think the world revolves around sex. Their world view simply doesn't allow for the fact it simply revolves around the sun.

I'd like to see that science class....... :eek: :D

It's actually quite understandable to me.

Ok. That's good.:)

Ok. That's good.:)

:)

:)

:)

Do you understand why they don't understand? I don't know how, as Damor put it, their world can revolve around sex to the point where they can't accept that some people don't want it.

:)

Do you understand why they don't understand? I don't know how, as Damor put it, their world can revolve around sex to the point where they can't accept that some people don't want it.

Er... no, I kind of can't.

But the thing I find odd, though, is that in the US everyone's like "OMG! Sex is teh ebil!" and then sex is the hottest topic...... :confused:

:)

Do you understand why they don't understand? I don't know how, as Damor put it, their world can revolve around sex to the point where they can't accept that some people don't want it.

dam if i get in i will miss seeing people try to work that out

straight but I don't mind chicks that like chicks :).

Er... no, I kind of can't.

But the thing I find odd, though, is that in the US everyone's like "OMG! Sex is teh ebil!" and then sex is the hottest topic...... :confused:

Yeah, I've noticed that, too.

First post of mine, in a thread of whom's kind I don't really like posting into..
Anyway, I prefer women, the curves.. Meaning I'm Straigth.
And now.. I'm off, before I realize I actually posted.

First post of mine, in a thread of whom's kind I don't really like posting into..
Anyway, I prefer women, the curves.. Meaning I'm Straigth.
And now.. I'm off, before I realize I actually posted.

Wow, a first post with reasonable grammar and no smilies at all. :D

Wow, a first post with reasonable grammar and no smilies at all. :D

Oh, I'm a big fan of smilies.
But I have to make a good impression to become the clown later, right?

"The gays" are everywhere these days. I heard the other day that the proportion of gay men living in Dublin is the same as San Francisco...

But I have to make a good impression to become the clown later, right?
One of many on NS - nowadays most n00bs aim for the position of Troll King though; the job requirements for clown are just too demanding for them.

"The gays" are everywhere these days. I heard the other day that the proportion of gay men living in Dublin is the same as San Francisco...
If only that were true - all it really is is that more homosexuals and bisexuals are willing to come out nowadays. I fail to see how this is bad. In biological terms, the number of both groups as a proportion of the population is still constant. So don't worry, we won't be stampeding you at the malls during Christmas sales anytime soon. :rolleyes:

One of many on NS - nowadays most n00bs aim for the position of Troll King though; the job requirements for clown are just too demanding for them.

I heard Troll.

*Gets out Troll hunting equipment. Looks for trolls.*

"The gays" are everywhere these days. I heard the other day that the proportion of gay men living in Dublin is the same as San Francisco... So 0.02 gays for every one straight? Cool.

One of many on NS - nowadays most n00bs aim for the position of Troll King though; the job requirements for clown are just too demanding for them.
It's a good thing too, because if all of them turned into real clowns, NS would be too creepy for your average everyday people who fear the creepy clowns.

Besides, troll-bashing is fun. So is n00b hunting.

Don't blame me for not having 1,000 posts, yet!
Takes a little time, you see?

And not to worry, I agree with the fact that Troll-bashing is fun indeed.
But I prefer to navigate the ''Noobs'' their way in, or out. So they could either become a casual member, or just leave because the enviroment doesn't fit them.
I've a weak heart for people who don't know what they're doing..

straight but I don't mind chicks that like chicks :).
You mean you like it that some women would rather get laid by some other woman than by you?

I'm bi, but physcially, I think all girls are bi.
How can all girls be bisexual?

"The gays" are everywhere these days. I heard the other day that the proportion of gay men living in Dublin is the same as San Francisco...
Quit your job in Gubu (http://www.gubu.ie/) and you'll gain some perspective.

How can all girls be bisexual?
I am guessing it's some hetero fantasy that all women out there love serving their male "overlords" au pair...

If only that were true - all it really is is that more homosexuals and bisexuals are willing to come out nowadays. I fail to see how this is bad. In biological terms, the number of both groups as a proportion of the population is still constant. So don't worry, we won't be stampeding you at the malls during Christmas sales anytime soon. :rolleyes:

As a straight man, I encourage male homosexuality.

If only that were true - all it really is is that more homosexuals and bisexuals are willing to come out nowadays. I fail to see how this is bad. In biological terms, the number of both groups as a proportion of the population is still constant. So don't worry, we won't be stampeding you at the malls during Christmas sales anytime soon. :rolleyes:

I'm gay myself.

As a straight man, I encourage male homosexuality.
It's funny how many straight men fail to see that increasing lesbianism is not in their interests, but that increasing male homosexuality is.

I'm gay myself.
Still, what ever makes you think there are more gay men out there? It's probably just more conspicuous now.

I am guessing it's some hetero fantasy that all women out there love serving their male "overlords" au pair...

Wait! You mean they don't? :D

Sex is really an obsession on NS isn't it? :D

Still, what ever makes you think there are more gay men out there? It's probably just more conspicuous now.

I think the fact that I moved from a semi-rural part of Ireland to the capital, Dublin, for university two and a half years ago has a lot to do with it. I knew there would be more gay men in the capital city of course but wasn't expecting such a huge increase! That and the fact that Ireland has changed an awful lot in the last 10 years.

I find it interesting how, according to the survey results, theres an equal number of bisexuals and gay/lesbians. Hmm..... someone's lyyyyyying.... :eek:

Mine's hard to pin down. When asked, I usually just say hetero, because that's the closest, I suppose. At times, I feel sort of mildly attracted to other girls, but it's never a real crush. And I do grind with other girls while dancing, but it's usually just to turn guys on (not that I'm a slut...). However, I'm consisdering cellibacy (seriously). For the second year in a row, my heart has been smashing into little pieces. It broke last night, and I don't know how much more of this I can take. I've never felt anything more crushing than what I felt last night, when I had to leave the side of one of the most amazing people I've ever met, not knowing if I will ever speak to him again. (This is how you know my life has been pretty darn easy, right?) He was just in so much pain, and I could do nothing to heal it, but I wanted to take it all from him and feel it myself. And I think I could spend years just looking at him, and talking about morality, and making fun of all the stupid stuff he does, and telling him everything I know, and listening to everything he knows, and debating everything to bits.
I'm inclined to say that cellibacy and asexuality is wise, but I think there is a reason I can't put into words why love is beautiful and shameless, despite all the pain.

Mine's hard to pin down. When asked, I usually just say hetero, because that's the closest, I suppose. At times, I feel sort of mildly attracted to other girls, but it's never a real crush. And I do grind with other girls while dancing, but it's usually just to turn guys on (not that I'm a slut...). However, I'm consisdering cellibacy (seriously). For the second year in a row, my heart has been smashing into little pieces. It broke last night, and I don't know how much more of this I can take. I've never felt anything more crushing than what I felt last night, when I had to leave the side of one of the most amazing people I've ever met, not knowing if I will ever speak to him again. (This is how you know my life has been pretty darn easy, right?) He was just in so much pain, and I could do nothing to heal it, but I wanted to take it all from him and feel it myself. And I think I could spend years just looking at him, and talking about morality, and making fun of all the stupid stuff he does, and telling him everything I know, and listening to everything he knows, and debating everything to bits.
I'm inclined to say that cellibacy and asexuality is wise, but I think there is a reason I can't put into words why love is beautiful and shameless, despite all the pain.

Love is one of the few redeeming qualities of man.

Straight.

I think the fact that I moved from a semi-rural part of Ireland to the capital, Dublin, for university two and a half years ago has a lot to do with it. I knew there would be more gay men in the capital city of course but wasn't expecting such a huge increase! That and the fact that Ireland has changed an awful lot in the last 10 years.
That almost makes me want to visit Ireland...

Hi, this is my first post and I have enjoyed hearing the opinions being put forward on this issue. There was one area that got me interested and that was the entry about g0y.org and I have since checked it out - I thought it was very true to life in this day and age.

I never really understood if I was gay, bisexual or maybe even straight; I know I've never had sex with a male but it doesnt mean I wouldn't.

I do know that I notice good looking males enough to imagine them naked with me; this may make me a g0y, but I really believe I'm bi/gay - it's all good...

Thanks for such great forum subjects - they are pretty awesome!

I'm gay, but not sure why there is such a facination with orientation.

Perhaps you should stipulate "Nice Aussies". No one wants an unfortunate looking male specimen. I happen to like Americans (British myself though. Please don't hold it against me lol!) "Spiffy" - Is that still a word?!?

Ahh, thank you..nice Aussies.

<chuckle> I will only hold it against you if you ask nicely, sir. You see, I like British guys too.

I really just like nice guys period, regardless of nationality, although whispering in my ear with a nice, sexy dialect is a turn on <shrug>, I don't know why. I lost my fascination with "bad" boys a good bit ago. All the drama just annoys me.

Yes, "spiffy" is still a word. It's much easier on me than trying to fake the "new" slang.

Sorry for taking so long to reply to you.

Do you understand why they don't understand? I don't know how, as Damor put it, their world can revolve around sex to the point where they can't accept that some people don't want it.It would mean they have to change their world view; and while generally people can do that, it takes a lot of time.
It's simply that over time "sex is important" settled down as a base assumption of their universe; as some have with God, profit/gain, euclidean geometry* etc. They have to dig very deep to reevaluate those (to them) fundamental principles along which they interpret their world. Generally people like the safety of what they know and stick to that, even if it's wrong.
Well, that's my general view on the human psyche, anyway..

(* if you accept light travels along straight lines, then our universe is better modeled by non-euclidean geometry because parallel lines can cross. There's pros and cons to this, and no way to actually distinguish what is really the case.)

Absolutely straight. :D

That almost makes me want to visit Ireland...

You should, we're great.

I'm gay.
(definitely not abstinent ;-) )

...and, yes, it is surprising to see so many bisexuals. more than i expected.

*Is eager to cattle-prod the opposite sex*

...and, yes, it is surprising to see so many bisexuals. more than i expected.

Why surprising?

*Is eager to cattle-prod the opposite sex*

You electrocute wimmins?

It would mean they have to change their world view; and while generally people can do that, it takes a lot of time.
It's simply that over time "sex is important" settled down as a base assumption of their universe; as some have with God, profit/gain, euclidean geometry* etc. They have to dig very deep to reevaluate those (to them) fundamental principles along which they interpret their world. Generally people like the safety of what they know and stick to that, even if it's wrong.
Well, that's my general view on the human psyche, anyway..

(* if you accept light travels along straight lines, then our universe is better modeled by non-euclidean geometry because parallel lines can cross. There's pros and cons to this, and no way to actually distinguish what is really the case.)

I guess so. It's still really annoying, though.

I guess so. It's still really annoying, though.

it all ways will be, there all ways be annoyings in one life

the list just gets long for some :(

I guess so. It's still really annoying, though.It might help if there some sort of program to raise awareness. Not sure what sort though. Probably not something like a gay parade; I'm not even sure what to imagine from a parade of asexual people :p It's very neutral in a sense, which makes it difficult to 'show'.
Besides which a gay parade is of course not for the awareness of the existence of homosexuality, but for the acceptance of it.
In one sense it should be easier, because once there is awareness of the existence of asexuality, there should be much less resistence its acceptance. After all, most religious texts also totally didn't consider this option; so they haven't moralized and agitated against it.

Gay here, but simply out of curiosity I wouldn't mind having sex with a woman just to see what it was like. And to see if women make the same faces and screaming noises they do in hetero-porn, although I'd probably bust a gut laughing during the sex if she does!

It might help if there some sort of program to raise awareness. Probably not something like a gay parade though; I'm not even sure what to imagine from a parade of asexual people :p
Besides which a gay parade is of course not for the awareness of the existence of homosexuality, but for the acceptance of it.
In one sense it should be easier, because once there is awareness of the existence of asexuality, there should be much less resistence its acceptance. After all, most religious texts also totally didn't consider this option; so they haven't moralized and agitated against it.

It would be pretty hypocritical of some of the people who promote abstinence before marriage to say to asexuals, "What? You don't want to have sex? You freaks!!!"

Although I could imagine the same people who say that people's primary purpose in life is to reproduce taking issue with it.

But, yeah, hopefully there would be less opposition to it, although it's still a long way away from getting the awareness it needs. A lot of the people I've talked to didn't even know that it existed, and some of them wouldn't even acknowledge that it was possible. I know that the Asexuality Visibility and Education Network is trying to raise awareness of it.

I am guessing it's some hetero fantasy that all women out there love serving their male "overlords" au pair...
Well, female "bisexuality" currently seems to mean, "Girl who really likes making out with other girls while hetero boys watch."

As an actual bisexual, I find this extremely annoying. I am not turned on by having a bunch of frat boys panting over my shoulder while I make out with a girl, nor am I turned on by making out with a hetero girl who is only making out with me because she thinks it will attract BOYS. If I'm going to make out with somebody, I want them to be enjoying it because they like making out with ME, not because they're getting off on how many other people want to fuck them at that moment.

General rule, lads: if she claims to think it's hawt to make out with girls while you watch, but doesn't ever seem to hook up with girls when there's no boy watching, then she's probably not bisexual in the least. She just has noticed that playing "bisexual" is the hip trend in How To Make The Boys Like You. If it turns you on to know that she's doing something she doesn't enjoy in order to grovel for your attention, then you go right ahead and hit that shit. Just don't kid yourself about what is going on.

Well, female "bisexuality" currently seems to mean, "Girl who really likes making out with other girls while hetero boys watch."

God I hate that. I can see how it would be annoying, if not utterly disgusting. Excuse my language but I think the type of people it is describing deserve it. I reckon its because of Britney Spears and Madonna, suddenly making it "cool". The people, however, that are worse are the ones that say " Its cos I'm just comfortable with myself". Yeh, so that's why your making out with a girl to make a boy like you. To me the sign-posts massive insecurities.

Personally I'm straight, at least I think I am, nothings changed since I was born so I'm gonna assume I was born straight. That doesn't mean I'm not open or anything, I just never really walked down the other paths. I don't find my sexuality plays a huge role in my life, sure boyfriends and whatever, but I've never been too attached to anyone so we usually just end up being friends. Maybe later in life I'll explore "commitment" (not that I ever cheated on anyone) but for now life is too busy, and I wouldn't be able to stand anything too serious.

Well, female "bisexuality" currently seems to mean, "Girl who really likes making out with other girls while hetero boys watch."

Haven't met any who like to make out while someone watches.
I have met, however, those who like to make out with multiple people at the same time. More out of a sense of sensory greed than anything else.

I'm bi, not a half and halfer, more like a 80%/20% in favour of males. But even then, my orientation is kink specific :D I'm a big fan of domination...receiving end of course.

Well, female "bisexuality" currently seems to mean, "Girl who really likes making out with other girls while hetero boys watch."

As an actual bisexual, I find this extremely annoying. I am not turned on by having a bunch of frat boys panting over my shoulder while I make out with a girl, nor am I turned on by making out with a hetero girl who is only making out with me because she thinks it will attract BOYS. If I'm going to make out with somebody, I want them to be enjoying it because they like making out with ME, not because they're getting off on how many other people want to fuck them at that moment.

General rule, lads: if she claims to think it's hawt to make out with girls while you watch, but doesn't ever seem to hook up with girls when there's no boy watching, then she's probably not bisexual in the least. She just has noticed that playing "bisexual" is the hip trend in How To Make The Boys Like You. If it turns you on to know that she's doing something she doesn't enjoy in order to grovel for your attention, then you go right ahead and hit that shit. Just don't kid yourself about what is going on.


Ha ha, you said 'hit that shit'...how hiphop of you :)

Good post. Unless performing is your thing...most people tend to want their nooky in semi-privacy. I was never comfortable making out with anyone in front of other people. I dated a girl back in first year at Uni...I HATED the stupid fucking leers on the faces of guys when we'd hold hands. Yeah, maybe it's repressed, but we just kind of played it cool in public...better that then stupid drive-by comments...."Hey, you want to play with a REAL man?"

"SURE FUCKER, COME HERE AND WE'LL USE OUR BOOTS TO 'PLAY' WITH YOUR GROIN"

Ha ha, you said 'hit that shit'...how hiphop of you :)

Good post. Unless performing is your thing...most people tend to want their nooky in semi-privacy. I was never comfortable making out with anyone in front of other people. I dated a girl back in first year at Uni...I HATED the stupid fucking leers on the faces of guys when we'd hold hands. Yeah, maybe it's repressed, but we just kind of played it cool in public...better that then stupid drive-by comments...."Hey, you want to play with a REAL man?"

"SURE FUCKER, COME HERE AND WE'LL USE OUR BOOTS TO 'PLAY' WITH YOUR GROIN"

:D A good reason for teaching all little girls tap dancing, it could come in handy.

Men are turned on by women making out. Lesbian sex in porn films is especially popular, I suspect because there's no male porn star involved to cause feeling od inadequacy in the viewer. I always remember a line from a TV show, a lesbian character said, "Men's reactions to finding out a woman is a lesbian are either disgust or 'Can I watch?'"

And yeah, Neesika, they always think you're a gay woman because you've never had sex with a real man (specifically the one making the leering remark).

I'm antisexual, i.e. militantly unattracted to anyone. I also don't see what's so interesting about (as I've put it elsewhere) sticking sensitive body organs into other people's waste disposal systems.

Really annoying is how people try to deny that antisexuality exists (I believe I'm the third one so far). Until I was 15 my parents claimed it was my body's reaction to hormones and I'd get over it in a year or two. Last year they thought I was simply in denial over repressed "non-traditional" tendencies. Now they don't even talk about it anymore; they know better. I do still sometimes have to remind them, when they talk about passing certain things onto my children, that I won't be having any children, and they say "yes of course" and change the subject.

More annoying are all the peers who ask me why I'm not "going out" with $randomperson, or the people who assume I'm gay because I express no interest in females (I pointed out that I'd never expressed an interest in males either, but they didn't seem to understand my logic).

The same thing happened on NS... the first time I told people about this I got a few planned converters attempting to drag me out of the "asexual closet", as Simonist put it. So far none of them have succeeded and the efforts have tapered off. For now. =.=

Ah Czardy, I'm fine with your anti-sexuality, and no, you're not the only one. I've known two asexual people, for over 10 years...nothing has changed. But yeah, they get hassled constantly. Whatever. Don't worry about it.

But, you have to understand...just like I try to get Fass to admit he wants to have dirty, heterosexual sex with me, there are those of us who love the challenge of getting you to fall for someone.

I'm antisexual, i.e. militantly unattracted to anyone. I also don't see what's so interesting about (as I've put it elsewhere) sticking sensitive body organs into other people's waste disposal systems.

No special attraction on a spiritual level either ? As in "would not mind spending the rest of your life in that persons company, but with no desire to perform intimate bodily excersises together" ?

No special attraction on a spiritual level either ? As in "would not mind spending the rest of your life in that persons company, but with no desire to perform intimate bodily excersises together" ?

Spiritual-level attraction doesn't exist either, unless something is screwed up with your pheromonal systems and neural pathways, which are defined in such a way that no desire to reproduce is inherent (I think it's a mutation or genetic thing, or perhaps something never develops during puberty). The vast majority of people, however, get together because of a basic desire to reproduce caused by the dopamine trigger reaction, or whatever it's called, which produces chemicals with a half-life of three years. By then, the couple is expected to have reproduced already and will be kept together by the need to raise the offspring; that, or societal concerns and needs.

There may be something else I've forgotten, but that's the basic outline.

But, you have to understand...just like I try to get Fass to admit he wants to have dirty, heterosexual sex with me, there are those of us who love the challenge of getting you to fall for someone.
That's quite true. As soon as something becomes unattainable, more people want it. Therefore, men like watching lesbians for that reason, and women gay men, etc. In fact, due to my isolation and aloofness I've probably been approached more than people who actively try to find girl/boyfriends.

So...those who really, really want nooky...should pretend as though it is the last thing they are interested in.

An interesting bit of self-torture that...

So...those who really, really want nooky...should pretend as though it is the last thing they are interested in.

In my experience it definately makes females take more notice of you, yes.

In my experience it definately makes females take more notice of you, yes.

Indeed. The moment you take the slightest fancy to any female in the room, they all scatter.

Ha ha, you said 'hit that shit'...how hiphop of you :)

Fo shizzle.


Good post. Unless performing is your thing...most people tend to want their nooky in semi-privacy.

It's not just about wanting nooky in privacy, it's that these girls DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO FUCK OTHER GIRLS. They're making out with girls to please boys, not because they actually enjoy it.

It's no different than faking an orgasm, in my opinion, and I don't see why some guys are so thrilled to get to hook up with a girl who fakes sexual satisfaction. If that's your bag then I guess that's up to you, but kindly don't kid yourself and pretend like she's enjoying herself. Accept the fact that you are getting off and your girl isn't.


I was never comfortable making out with anyone in front of other people.

I don't mind making out "in front" of other people, I just don't enjoy making out for other peoples' benefit.


I dated a girl back in first year at Uni...I HATED the stupid fucking leers on the faces of guys when we'd hold hands. Yeah, maybe it's repressed, but we just kind of played it cool in public...better that then stupid drive-by comments...."Hey, you want to play with a REAL man?"

"SURE FUCKER, COME HERE AND WE'LL USE OUR BOOTS TO 'PLAY' WITH YOUR GROIN"
It's adorable how so many guys are convinced that THEIR penis will be the one that wins me over. It's like they really believe that women love their penis as much as they do.

I also don't see what's so interesting about (as I've put it elsewhere) sticking sensitive body organs into other people's waste disposal systems.


Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me, either. Seems pretty pointless, and I don't see why something like that is so important to people.

So...those who really, really want nooky...should pretend as though it is the last thing they are interested in.

An interesting bit of self-torture that...
Meh. Don't bother playing that kind of game unless you are interested in ending up involved with the kind of moron who plays that kind of game. :D

I never bother. I don't believe it's good to encourage bullshitting and stupid games when it comes to dating and sex, so I sure as hell am not going to fuck the kind of people who are into that kind of time-wasting.

Meh. Don't bother playing that kind of game unless you are interested in ending up involved with the kind of moron who plays that kind of game. :D No no, I have no need to find more attention than the fantastic amount I am presently getting. Just hypothesing for the masses.

I never bother. I don't believe it's good to encourage bullshitting and stupid games when it comes to dating and sex, so I sure as hell am not going to fuck the kind of people who are into that kind of time-wasting.Depends on what kind of games you're talking about of course...I'm a big fan of games, but the kind that come after you're assured of mutual compatability...not the kind that try to fool people into thinking there is compatability.

Meh. Don't bother playing that kind of game unless you are interested in ending up involved with the kind of moron who plays that kind of game. :D

I never bother. I don't believe it's good to encourage bullshitting and stupid games when it comes to dating and sex, so I sure as hell am not going to fuck the kind of people who are into that kind of time-wasting.

You probably would have liked my roommate in college. When he met people at parties, the first thing out of his mouth was, "Would you like to fuck? - Not necessarily this minute, but after the party?"

He got slapped quite a few times. Got quite a few laughs. And was far more successful in terms of having a lot of sex than anyone I've ever met - and he was nothing special to look at or talk to otherwise.

I never bother. I don't believe it's good to encourage bullshitting and stupid games when it comes to dating and sex, so I sure as hell am not going to fuck the kind of people who are into that kind of time-wasting.

I agree, actually. If people are going to insist upon doing that kind of thing, they can at least do it honestly as opposed to playing these types of games. And as a sort of independent observer who is, if not above, at least apart from all this, I'm fairly certain that most people would actually prefer honesty in relationships but avoid it because they do not have the courage to face themselves, which is something they'll have to deal with around the middle of this relationship instead (i.e. midlife crises) and which is something I've decided to work out now instead of later, which is probably one of my reasons for total apathy towards the relationship slippery slope.

You probably would have liked my roommate in college. When he met people at parties, the first thing out of his mouth was, "Would you like to fuck? - Not necessarily this minute, but after the party?"

He got slapped quite a few times. Got quite a few laughs. And was far more successful in terms of having a lot of sex than anyone I've ever met - and he was nothing special to look at or talk to otherwise.
Heh.

You don't have to go to such extremes, of course. I happen to think that there are very few rational and well-balanced individuals who will decide they want to fuck me after knowing me only 5 minutes, so I'm not going to immediately go around asking for sex. Or, if I did, I would know that anybody who says "yes" under those circumstances is either too drunk to shag, too careless to shag, or not serious in their answer. ;)

Heh.

You don't have to go to such extremes, of course. I happen to think that there are very few rational and well-balanced individuals who will decide they want to fuck me after knowing me only 5 minutes, so I'm not going to immediately go around asking for sex. Or, if I did, I would know that anybody who says "yes" under those circumstances is either too drunk to shag, too careless to shag, or not serious in their answer. ;)

Well, I can't answer for women, but you may already know that a majority of men would take you up on it, sight unseen, if you asked them.

Well, I can't answer for women, but you may already know that a majority of men would take you up on it, sight unseen, if you asked them.

If by "men" you mean "male internet forum posters" then you're right.

Men in real life, for some strange reason, tend to act a little bit differently, and have a median age of greater than 16.

If by "men" you mean "male internet forum posters" then you're right.

Men in real life, for some strange reason, tend to act a little bit differently, and have a median age of greater than 16.

Men on internet dating sites on the other hand act exactly the same.

Well, I can't answer for women, but you may already know that a majority of men would take you up on it, sight unseen, if you asked them.
Sure, some boys are like that, but that only helps me if I am interested in shagging the sort of desperate fellow who takes sex from anything warm and willing. Such fellows are generally less satisfying than a night alone with a vibrator, so why bother?

If by "men" you mean "male internet forum posters" then you're right.

Men in real life, for some strange reason, tend to act a little bit differently, and have a median age of greater than 16.

By "men" I am meaning the men you usually see at a bar on Friday nights, where people meet ostensibly to hook up.

The standards that men use, especially as night becomes morning, are appallingly low.

Sure, but that only helps me if I am interested in shagging the sort of desperate fellow who takes sex from anything warm and willing. Such fellows are generally less satisfying than a night alone with a vibrator, so why bother?

I'm not saying they're great - I'm just saying they're not very choosy.

The standards that men use, especially as night becomes morning, are appallingly low.
Yes, and have you ever actually tried fucking one of those guys?

Let me clue you in: there's a reason why they have low standards, and why they end up needing to act on those low standards. It's because most women know that this sort of man isn't worth laying in the first place.

I'm not saying they're great - I'm just saying they're not very choosy.
Again, they aren't choosy because they can't afford to be choosy. They are bottom-of-the-barrel types, and you've gotta have very low self esteem to want to waste your time with that sort.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes more sense for me to head to the supermarket and start hitting on the cucumbers. They're more likely to satisfy me.

Yes, and have you ever actually tried fucking one of those guys?

No, but I have tried some of the women at that late hour (in my misspent youth).

They are not worth the effort.

By "men" I am meaning the men you usually see at a bar on Friday nights, where people meet ostensibly to hook up.
Ah. I don't visit bars on Friday nights. Something about a state-issued ID and having to be born on or before today's date in 1985, I'm told.


The standards that men use, especially as night becomes morning, are appallingly low.

That is quite likely caused by a loss of perspective the longer one fails to sleep. I've encountered that myself (a broken printer at 1400 is an annoyance, at 0200 a calamity). It's apparently generally followed by a loss of visual perspective as well, and finally dementia. Or something.

That, and people in bars on Friday nights tend to have certain trace amounts of distilled ethanol in their blood, which is a proven depressant and... Oh hell, screw the scientific discourse. They're pissed.

EDIT: That and, as already stated, I suppose those who go to such lengths to meet people are really desperate, usually for good reason.

No, but I have tried some of the women at that late hour (in my misspent youth).

They are not worth the effort.
Exactly.

I think the whole problem is that so many people think they need a man/woman. That assumption makes you do all sorts of stupid things just to get some person of a particular gender to pay attention to you.

Exactly.

I think the whole problem is that so many people think they need a man/woman. That assumption makes you do all sorts of stupid things just to get some person of a particular gender to pay attention to you.

Well, I believe my roommate's approach was free of bullshit and games.

It was up front, completely honest, and didn't waste any time.

If what he wanted was sex, he asked for it straightaway.

You seemed to imply earlier that although that is extreme, such a tendency is commendable.

Well, I believe my roommate's approach was free of bullshit and games.

It was up front, completely honest, and didn't waste any time.

If what he wanted was sex, he asked for it straightaway.

You seemed to imply earlier that although that is extreme, such a tendency is commendable.
Sure.

I think it's kind of stupid to want casual sex from strangers, given the current risks that are involved with that sort of thing, but if it's what you want then you should be honest about it.

female,bisexual, but i don't have a heartbeat either. ::le sigh::

As far as I am concerned, you don't need a man or woman to love to enjoy life. I don't spend any time trying to impress someone or going out of my way. I just am who I am. I have no idea why they flock to me. o.O; seriously guys...restraining orders if this doesn't stop.

well i have never indulged but for quite a while most of my fantasies used to involve death, dying, blood and corpses (not necessarily still warm but fresh)... so i've put the necrophile option... either way it doesn't really matter, i'm not getting any anyway :(
^^^^^^^
Like this guy
=)

straight and love farking. LOVE IT! Not an addict but it's almost like I live for it.

Mine's hard to pin down. When asked, I usually just say hetero, because that's the closest, I suppose. At times, I feel sort of mildly attracted to other girls, but it's never a real crush.
Most straight men feel like that on occassion about other men, but they don't consider that to be bisexuality.

And I do grind with other girls while dancing, but it's usually just to turn guys on
Ha, I knew it!

Well, female "bisexuality" currently seems to mean, "Girl who really likes making out with other girls while hetero boys watch."
....

She just has noticed that playing "bisexual" is the hip trend in How To Make The Boys Like You. If it turns you on to know that she's doing something she doesn't enjoy in order to grovel for your attention, then you go right ahead and hit that shit. Just don't kid yourself about what is going on.
Preach it, Bottle! I know what they're up to.


I always remember a line from a TV show, a lesbian character said, "Men's reactions to finding out a woman is a lesbian are either disgust or 'Can I watch?'"
Or disappointment, in my case. :(

They are bottom-of-the-barrel types

There are no "bottom-of-the-barrel types"... everyone is attractive to someone.

Exactly.

I think the whole problem is that so many people think they need a man/woman. That assumption makes you do all sorts of stupid things just to get some person of a particular gender to pay attention to you.

If people realised that the best way to get a man/woman (I don't see why they feel they need one anyway, but whatever) was to just act like they normally do ("be themselves") and the people who like them will flock to them, it would likely solve a lot of problems.

Of course, since this is based not on experiene but on logical reasoning, I could easily be wrong.

If people realised that the best way to get a man/woman (I don't see why they feel they need one anyway, but whatever) was to just act like they normally do ("be themselves") and the people who like them will flock to them, it would likely solve a lot of problems.

Of course, since this is based not on experiene but on logical reasoning, I could easily be wrong.
Well, the only problem with this is that you might not like a lot of the people who like "who you really are." You might not be attracted to the people who are attracted to your normal self.

A lot of people get impatient. They get frustrated because so many of the people who are attracted to their "normal" self are not appealing. So they decide to change themselves to attract the sort of people they want.

When I was young and naive, I ventured into my first gay bar. After the initial sensory overload of being in close proximity to more gay guys than I had ever been near in my life (in my high school class there were only THREE of us, all semi to heavy closet cases in a class of 80), I soon discovered that I was in a meat market.

I literally felt like I was a side of beef on display and that I was secretly being bid on for later consumption. This turned me off of gay bars almost immediately.

I now rarely go to bars (gay or straight) except for the express purpose of consuming a libation or two and watching the desperate dance of humanity there. I DO go to show clubs on occasion and do enjoy a nicely done drag show as part of the burlesque art form.

I can say without reservation that MOST of the guys in the standard gay club are either not worth it, and are mostly desperate and almost NONE of them are drama free (one of my requirements on dating a guy is that he cannot be a head case with lots of creepy drama). That is not to say that the occasional nice guy doesn't wander into such a place, it's just a rarity.

<shrug> YMMV.

Well, the only problem with this is that you might not like a lot of the people who like "who you really are." You might not be attracted to the people who are attracted to your normal self.

A lot of people get impatient. They get frustrated because so many of the people who are attracted to their "normal" self are not appealing. So they decide to change themselves to attract the sort of people they want.

I also believe that the younger someone is, the less likely they are to know who they are, or who they might be attracted to.

Not that everyone gets better at this as they age, but some do.

I also believe that the younger someone is, the less likely they are to know who they are, or who they might be attracted to.

Not that everyone gets better at this as they age, but some do.
Also very true.

There are no "bottom-of-the-barrel types"... everyone is attractive to someone.

I hope I'm not attractive to someone.:(

Exactly.

I think the whole problem is that so many people think they need a man/woman. That assumption makes you do all sorts of stupid things just to get some person of a particular gender to pay attention to you.

That's just it. If your main motivation is sex then what is the problem with the straightforward approach. Hell, most men or women who are going out to get some know within the first 10 minutes if they want to fuck the person or not. You're going out and about for sex, you find a hottie with a body to grind with on the dance floor and you sure as hell can figure out 2 things A. you want to fuck her B. She wants to fuck you. It's not rocket science, it's raw animal attraction and magnetism. Not that I worry about any of this being married, but I might have at another time. I always went by the lines "I ain't a cuddler I fuck the drool out a chick." Didn't matter if it was 9:30 or 3:30 as I was never rusty.

There are no "bottom-of-the-barrel types"... everyone is attractive to someone.

Nope I even oozed out of the barrel a while back and now just don't give a damn. Seriously most days I don't think I could put someone I like through being with me, and even if I were to "change" it would just be a like a coat of paint, I'd still be the same underneath and we wind back up at the first part of this sentence.

Well, the only problem with this is that you might not like a lot of the people who like "who you really are." You might not be attracted to the people who are attracted to your normal self.
My question is, so why bother in that case? If people don't like you as you really are, either look for new people or don't bother to look at all.

I also believe that the younger someone is, the less likely they are to know who they are, or who they might be attracted to.
Quite true. Many people never find out who they really are, until on their deathbeds, and sometimes not even then. I sometimes wonder whether the only way to find out is to go through the hardship, suffering, and joy of a lifetime, and one can never know who they really were until they can look back on their lives and have time to think about what it really meant.

Fortunately for me, I have the ability to see the consequences of an action, and what it entails, at the same time. Thus, at the same time that I make an argument, I can see its flaws and the possible counter-arguments. Thus, I can see that if I don't figure life out now, I'll regret it in seventy years. And... well, whatever, I'm drifting off topic now.

I now rarely go to bars (gay or straight) except for the express purpose of consuming a libation or two and watching the desperate dance of humanity there. I DO go to show clubs on occasion and do enjoy a nicely done drag show as part of the burlesque art form.

I can say without reservation that MOST of the guys in the standard gay club are either not worth it, and are mostly desperate and almost NONE of them are drama free (one of my requirements on dating a guy is that he cannot be a head case with lots of creepy drama). That is not to say that the occasional nice guy doesn't wander into such a place, it's just a rarity.

<shrug> YMMV.

I used to feel the same way but, a very good Scouse (from Liverpool) friend of mine said to me "How are you gonna meet Mr Right if you don't go through a few Mr Wrongs first?"

I am yet to come up with an intelligent answer. So I go out occassionally. It's all worth it in the end though.

ps. forgive the inactivity (bldy real world)

When I was young and naive, I ventured into my first gay bar. After the initial sensory overload of being in close proximity to more gay guys than I had ever been near in my life (in my high school class there were only THREE of us, all semi to heavy closet cases in a class of 80), I soon discovered that I was in a meat market.

I literally felt like I was a side of beef on display and that I was secretly being bid on for later consumption. This turned me off of gay bars almost immediately.

I know exactly what you mean. I'm 21 and have done the whole gay bar thing for a while and just end up getting used and abused. I have accepted now that I am unlikely to find the love of my live in a gay bar, let alone a guy I could have a meaningful relationship with. In five years of being out my longest relationship is 4 months. But if he's not in a gay bar then where is he?

I know exactly what you mean. I'm 21 and have done the whole gay bar thing for a while and just end up getting used and abused. I have accepted now that I am unlikely to find the love of my live in a gay bar, let alone a guy I could have a meaningful relationship with. In five years of being out my longest relationship is 4 months. But if he's not in a gay bar then where is he?

At the rest stop north of Richmond on I-95?

At the rest stop north of Richmond on I-95?

Nah, all that has are the foot fetishists and the one aviophile.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes more sense for me to head to the supermarket and start hitting on the cucumbers. They're more likely to satisfy me.And they're easier to eat afterwards if you're ever in a praying mantis kind of mood..

And they're easier to eat afterwards if you're ever in a praying mantis kind of mood..

That's amazing lol.

My question is, so why bother in that case? If people don't like you as you really are, either look for new people or don't bother to look at all.

*shrug*

Sometimes it's good to change. Sometimes it's not. Sometimes people don't like you for a reason. It's silly to assume that your personality is perfect and should never change, just as it's silly to assume that you should always change yourself to please others.

It's about learning balance. It takes most people quite a while to work this out.

I used to feel the same way but, a very good Scouse (from Liverpool) friend of mine said to me "How are you gonna meet Mr Right if you don't go through a few Mr Wrongs first?"

I am yet to come up with an intelligent answer. So I go out occassionally. It's all worth it in the end though.

ps. forgive the inactivity (bldy real world)

In the high stress, high speed real world, the old ways have pretty much become as long odds as everything else.

I have found that the genuinely nice guys I meet are online. The problem with that, however, is that very few of these really nice guys live near me. Example: I have met online HERE some very interesting guys that I would certainly give a first date shot at, but all of them with marked few exceptions live in the UK or Australia. In an ideal world, I would love to hop on a plane and see what happens at the end of the journey.

But the nasty, real world pops up and you have to do things like spend large amounts of money to go to the UK or Australia from the USA. Then the complications of IF IT WORKS out, or is worth pursuing further rears it's ugly head. Nice problem to have, right? My problem is simple. I am a working actor in LA. I came here to further my craft and move up in my profession. <sigh>

The locals I have met here have been to a man, busts.

So if not in a bar where?

Events where you have something in common with the other attendees (Gaming, science-fiction conventions, et al).

Clubs (not bars, but clubs dedicated to hobbies).

<shrug> I don't know, I haven't met Mr. Right yet, and I have gone through a fair number of Mr. Wrongs along with the occasional Mr. Right-Nows.

I know exactly what you mean. I'm 21 and have done the whole gay bar thing for a while and just end up getting used and abused. I have accepted now that I am unlikely to find the love of my live in a gay bar, let alone a guy I could have a meaningful relationship with. In five years of being out my longest relationship is 4 months. But if he's not in a gay bar then where is he?

He's watching you as you strip naked for your web cam. ;)

See my reply to Incindus.

21 is a lovely age and you have a good amount of time to find Mr. Right. Enjoy life and don't stress too much about a lack of boyfriend, I am sure that will remedy itself.

I know exactly what you mean. I'm 21 and have done the whole gay bar thing for a while and just end up getting used and abused. I have accepted now that I am unlikely to find the love of my live in a gay bar, let alone a guy I could have a meaningful relationship with. In five years of being out my longest relationship is 4 months. But if he's not in a gay bar then where is he?On-line.

Straight.
Though I did have a long affair with another female. But I was very in love. Generally women don't inpire lust in me. Men most definitely do. To the point I've been accused of being oversexed. As far as I'm concerned there's no such thing as long as one is fairly discriminating.

As far as the subject of more recent discussion, I met my last boyfriend at one of those meat market bars. It ended up being a four year relationship. I wasn't looking for someone, we just clicked. As a matter of fact, I've found that I've always had better luck finding someone if I'm not looking.

blablablah lust etc etc etc oversexed

I've never been accused of not reading only what I want to read....

Hmm. An interesting question with no straight answer, no pun intended. If I was to classify myself under one category, it would be straight or abstinent. Of course, I've never had sex (or a girlfriend for that matter), and I'm only 15, so saying anything now won't have much substance. But on some days, usually when I am tired or depressed, I will have some *other* thoughts about my orientation. I won't go into details because I trust my family more than the Internet, and I haven't said anything to them.

One thing that generally screwed me over (again, no pun intended) was going to an all-male school. If not for the fact that my local public school sucks, I'd probably wish I'd never gone there. When you have to walk 300 yards in the wind and rain, across a busy street where nobody ever obeys the light, just to see someone without a *****, and you live over 5 miles from the nearest person who is close to your age group, it's kind of hard to get chicks.

And for good measure, I must add a fluffle: :fluffle:

And only 6 necrophiliacs on NSG? Come on, there's got to be more than that!

I've never been accused of not reading only what I want to read....Of course not.

And you know I'll always post on any thread about sex. :D

*Is eager to cattle-prod the opposite sex*

Mmm...Kinky.


(No, I'm not QUITE that screwed up)

Of course not.

And you know I'll always post on any thread about sex. :D

and you know that any time you post on a thread about sex I will find it and make lewd comments about it.

Yeah another resident gay person right here.

Gay people FTW!

You electrocute wimmins?
Unfortunatly no, but i'm eager.http://209.85.12.227/1381/85/emo/FIREdevil.gif
I'm antisexual, i.e. militantly unattracted to anyone. I also don't see what's so interesting about (as I've put it elsewhere) sticking sensitive body organs into other people's waste disposal systems.

Really annoying is how people try to deny that antisexuality exists (I believe I'm the third one so far). Until I was 15 my parents claimed it was my body's reaction to hormones and I'd get over it in a year or two. Last year they thought I was simply in denial over repressed "non-traditional" tendencies. Now they don't even talk about it anymore; they know better. I do still sometimes have to remind them, when they talk about passing certain things onto my children, that I won't be having any children, and they say "yes of course" and change the subject.

More annoying are all the peers who ask me why I'm not "going out" with $randomperson, or the people who assume I'm gay because I express no interest in females (I pointed out that I'd never expressed an interest in males either, but they didn't seem to understand my logic).

The same thing happened on NS... the first time I told people about this I got a few planned converters attempting to drag me out of the "asexual closet", as Simonist put it. So far none of them have succeeded and the efforts have tapered off. For now. =.=
Hi Ziggy.:) Remember Lashie
Mmm...Kinky.


(No, I'm not QUITE that screwed up)
Luckily for you, i am.;)

Unfortunatly no, but i'm eager.http://209.85.12.227/1381/85/emo/FIREdevil.gif

Hi Ziggy.:) Remember Lashie

Luckily for you, i am.;)

*makes notes on Harlesburg*

if its emo i'll shag it.
And most emo's shag me.

Life is good.

When you have to walk 300 yards in the wind and rain, across a busy street where nobody ever obeys the light, just to see someone without a *****, and you live over 5 miles from the nearest person who is close to your age group, it's kind of hard to get chicks.What did you censor from this sentence? If you don't feel comfortable typing out the word, give a synonym (please).

But we've had ethnic ones, so why not ones on sexual orientation?


I like to orient myself on my back while she stradles me an I can play with her fun bags like a kitten and ball of string. :fluffle:

;)

Transsexualism (a condition dealing with mental gender and physical sex) has nothing to do with sexuality.

Transsexualism (a condition dealing with mental gender and physical sex) has nothing to do with sexuality.

Correct. The flaws in this poll just keep building up. And it seemed like such a nice poll too:( .