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Germany Takes Anti-Gaming To New Extreme, gov't considers jail time for gamers

James_xenoland
16-12-2006, 19:26
German gov't considers jail time for gamers (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6163059.html?sid=6163059&tag=latestnews;title;4)


Proposed legislation targets pixelated mayhem and virtual violence; legislators consider acts of cruelty against "human-looking characters" as reason enough to fine, imprison.
By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK
Posted Dec 12, 2006 9:57 pm GMT

Games in Germany already face strict censorship laws--titles such as Gears of War are deemed to be too violent, and the German board of classification (the Unterhaltungssoftware Selbskontrolle) refuses to give them a rating, effectively meaning that the games can be sold only at adults-only retailers.

Nazi symbols are also banned in the country, except for art and educational purposes--so games which use them, including the Wolfenstein series, are also banned from being released in Germany. Even games such as Dead Rising are regarded as crossing a threshold of acceptability since violence towards zombies is considered to be too close to violence towards real people.

Legislation currently being drafted would take these standards a step further. The bill, which was introduced last week by the states of Bavaria and Lower Saxony, proposes a new offence. Those found guilty of "cruel violence on humans or human-looking characters" could face fines or jail time of up to 12 months--and those it applies to include developers, retailers, and consumers, reports UK newspaper The Guardian.

The proposed legislation comes on the heels of a shooting on November 20 where an 18-year-old student went on a shooting rampage and wounded six people in his school before killing himself. Backers of the bill also point to the 2002 Erfurt massacre where another German student shot 13 people, according to the paper. Both incidents have been blamed in the media on violent games, and much has been written about the two shooters' fascination with games such as Half-Life: Counter-Strike.

The proposed legislation makes the future for German game companies unclear. One company, Far Cry and Crysis developer Crytek, has already made known its plans to relocate to another country should any legislation of this kind be made law.

F***ing wow......... Only in Germany/Europe!
Potarius
16-12-2006, 19:27
Tere's already a thread with... Almost the exact same title. Old news, man.
Call to power
16-12-2006, 19:31
Tere's already a thread with... Almost the exact same title. Old news, man.

Where:confused:

F***ing wow......... Only in Germany/Europe!

not if Jack Thompson has his way (a random piece of trivia I know someone with the exact name!)

As for the topic just looking for scapegoats really it will keep going on until either everything is banned or somebody thinks more rationally and extensively about why this happened
Barbaric Tribes
16-12-2006, 19:45
wait wait wait...the fucking GERMANS are crying about how somthings to violent and gory? WTF!?!?!?!?!???!?!?!
Almighty America
16-12-2006, 19:54
It's Hitler's fault.
Godwin!
[NS]Fried Tuna
16-12-2006, 19:55
wait wait wait...the fucking GERMANS are crying about how somthings to violent and gory? WTF!?!?!?!?!???!?!?!

In case you haven't heard, the occupation troops and the germans themselves have spent the last 60 years teching all kids that violence is BAD... The germans living now have absolutely nothing to do with their Prussian ancestors. I bet that if there was a war, they'd lose, hands down, to every other european country. Denmark, France and Italy included. Well, perhaps not to any of the microcountries...
The Potato Factory
16-12-2006, 19:57
Fried Tuna;12094550']In case you haven't heard, the occupation troops and the germans themselves have spent the last 60 years teching all kids that violence is BAD... The germans living now have absolutely nothing to do with their Prussian ancestors. I bet that if there was a war, they'd lose, hands down, to every other european country. Denmark, France and Italy included. Well, perhaps not to any of the microcountries...

No, they'd lose to the microcountries too.
Bitchkitten
16-12-2006, 20:06
It'd be an interesting turn around to see Luxembourg invade Germany.
Ftagn
16-12-2006, 20:22
It'd be an interesting turn around to see Luxembourg invade Germany.

I think it'd be more poetic if it was Poland doing the invading.
Bitchkitten
16-12-2006, 20:26
I think it'd be more poetic if it was Poland doing the invading.
Doubtless. But Poland is more equal in size.
Probably has nothing but obsolete Russian military equipment though.
Almighty America
16-12-2006, 20:29
They have other stuff. Poland is in NATO.
Call to power
16-12-2006, 20:32
They have other stuff. Poland is in NATO.

like what?
Cullons
16-12-2006, 20:35
F***ing wow......... Only in Germany/Europe!

pretty much. But at least we allow sex and swearing on TV. :)
Barbaric Tribes
16-12-2006, 20:38
Fried Tuna;12094550']In case you haven't heard, the occupation troops and the germans themselves have spent the last 60 years teching all kids that violence is BAD... The germans living now have absolutely nothing to do with their Prussian ancestors. I bet that if there was a war, they'd lose, hands down, to every other european country. Denmark, France and Italy included. Well, perhaps not to any of the microcountries...

I stand corrected, you have a damn good point, its really sad too...the Europeans used to be pretty badass.
Almighty America
16-12-2006, 20:52
like what?
I'm not really sure, but I do know they have a modern air force. I think they bought a bunch of F-16s and C-130s from the USAF a few years back.
Bitchkitten
16-12-2006, 20:55
At least we know the Germans haven't lost their paranoia.
Swilatia
16-12-2006, 20:59
this is like the 26th thread we have about this.
Almighty America
16-12-2006, 21:00
this is like the 26th thread we have about this.
Yeah, but it's better than one ueber-thread clogging up space.
Gauthier
16-12-2006, 21:33
They're just pissed that Call to Arms keeps selling.

:D
[NS]Fried Tuna
16-12-2006, 21:39
pretty much. But at least we allow sex and swearing on TV. :)

Yeah. I've always wondered how can it be that the two western countries that censor TV most on grounds of morality have completely opposite views: USA Allows violence to the point of sickness but show one nipple on prime time and it's a national scandal, while Germany treats sex and nudity as a natural part of life but violence is heavily censored.

Up here north where both are allowed we laugh at both of them.

like what?

German tanks :)

I stand corrected, you have a damn good point, its really sad too...the Europeans used to be pretty badass.

Some Europeans still are. Around here there has always been a natural cycle of badassness where one country invades other, makes it suffer for a generation causing the next generation to be really badass and invade the country that last invaded an so on. Cold war, and EU to some point, broke it but there are still some remnants around. For example the new army of Poland happens to be eager to get rid of the reputation of losing in a couple of weeks thus is rather badass in the few limited places they have been. And of course there is Greece, whose military is probably the craziest west of N.Korea.
Laerod
16-12-2006, 22:17
F***ing wow......... Only in Germany/Europe!We've had this exact same article before. Also, that the German government is enacting this is false. Saxony and Bavaria do not constitute the German government.
Arrkendommer
17-12-2006, 00:39
Fried Tuna;12094550']In case you haven't heard, the occupation troops and the germans themselves have spent the last 60 years teching all kids that violence is BAD... The germans living now have absolutely nothing to do with their Prussian ancestors. I bet that if there was a war, they'd lose, hands down, to every other european country. Denmark, France and Italy included. Well, perhaps not to any of the microcountries...

Yesh, I think Switzerland could probably beat any european country.
United Beleriand
17-12-2006, 01:00
F***ing wow......... Only in Germany/Europe!?? there is no such "proposed legislation". only some back-benchers tried to get into the sunday papers...
Heikoku
17-12-2006, 04:42
Aw, geeze, now I can't go to Germany! I beat the CRAP out of Magaki with Oswald in KOF XI today! And used Joker, even! :D