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am I mistaken or is she an idiot?

Smunkeeville
16-12-2006, 19:19
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............
Celtlund
16-12-2006, 19:21
I am confused............

Fear not in your confusion, Rosie is with you. :D
Imperial isa
16-12-2006, 19:21
you are right she a idiot and i'am one too
JuNii
16-12-2006, 19:22
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............

ahh.. but what does she believe in all religions.

if she is an Atheist, then she would believe that all Religions are full of... well you get the idea. ;)

Gotta love creative editing of one's self.

And I celebrate all holidays, maybe not the same way, or the same degree, but I celebrate them...
Call to power
16-12-2006, 19:22
maybe she means that she believes all religions in there message of bringing people together and thus celebrates all the holidays for fun :)

though she could just believe in all religions or more to the point one divine spirit
Czardas
16-12-2006, 19:23
I think it's meant to be some kind of pseudo-philosophical "love, peace, and equality" bullshit and you just stumbled in at the right time to take it out-of-context.

Like the old joke about the Georgia soapbox orator who, speaking about the state of the post-Civil War South, said, "My friends, I believe all human beings to be equal; I know no black, no white; I know no north, no south, no east, no west..."

A kid happened to be walking past in time to hear the last phrase and piped up, "Well, mister, you better study your geography!"
Almighty America
16-12-2006, 19:23
how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............
If you believe that you believe in all religions, that is your reality.
The Alma Mater
16-12-2006, 19:24
how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

It is religion. That means it does not have to make sense or even be logically possible.
Smunkeeville
16-12-2006, 19:27
Fear not in your confusion, Rosie is with you. :D

I think it's meant to be some kind of pseudo-philosophical "love, peace, and equality" bullshit and you just stumbled in at the right time to take it out-of-context.

Like the old joke about the Georgia soapbox orator who, speaking about the state of the post-Civil War South, said, "My friends, I believe all human beings to be equal; I know no black, no white; I know no north, no south, no east, no west..."

A kid happened to be walking past in time to hear the last phrase and piped up, "Well, mister, you better study your geography!"

just prior to her saying that the conversation went roughly like this

"it's almost time for Chanukah" (random person I don't know)
"yeah, we dug out our Menorah this weekend" Rosie
"are you Jewish?" Joy-whatever
"no, I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays" Rosie

:confused:
Imperial isa
16-12-2006, 19:29
just prior to her saying that the conversation went roughly like this

"it's almost time for Chanukah" (random person I don't know)
"yeah, we dug out our Menorah this weekend" Rosie
"are you Jewish?" Joy-whatever
"no, I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays" Rosie

:confused:

if she did she be off work 24/7 with all those holidays
Almighty America
16-12-2006, 19:31
Well, she's an atheist too. And it doesn't mean just because she believes all religions that she is a firm adherent to all of its traditions.
Czardas
16-12-2006, 19:31
just prior to her saying that the conversation went roughly like this

"it's almost time for Chanukah" (random person I don't know)
"yeah, we dug out our Menorah this weekend" Rosie
"are you Jewish?" Joy-whatever
"no, I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays" Rosie

:confused:

yeah, as I said, idealistic commie LPaE bullshit, you can ignore her because she is a fucking idiot, the type of person I kind of want to throttle right now.

Yes, so I need to work on my anger problems, shush. ;)
Imperial isa
16-12-2006, 19:33
yeah, as I said, idealistic commie LPaE bullshit, you can ignore her because she is a fucking idiot, the type of person I kind of want to throttle right now.

Yes, so I need to work on my anger problems, shush. ;)

if you find a good place let me know
Utracia
16-12-2006, 19:35
Probably means she doesn't think that any religions are fruitcake religions. :)
Risottia
16-12-2006, 19:43
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............

Usually I don't believe anything, but in this case I believe that she's the ultimate idiot. At least for the first part. If celebrating all the holidays means that she has "religious grounds" to avoid working for the most part of the year because it is holiday of some religion, this makes her a genius at skiving!

:rolleyes:
Drunk commies deleted
16-12-2006, 19:52
Rosie doesn't strike me as having a strong grasp of reality. One time she was interviewing some actor. Tom Selek maybe. She went off on him about gun control. WTF? He's just an actor who happens to own guns. If you want to debate gun control interview Wayne La Pierre or something.

Now she believes in every religion. I guess it's a good way to get lots of religious holidays off from work.
The Alma Mater
16-12-2006, 20:11
how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

I withdraw my earlier statement.
I too believe that all those religions exist. Just like I believe in tables.
Ashmoria
16-12-2006, 20:14
Rosie doesn't strike me as having a strong grasp of reality. One time she was interviewing some actor. Tom Selek maybe. She went off on him about gun control. WTF? He's just an actor who happens to own guns. If you want to debate gun control interview Wayne La Pierre or something.

Now she believes in every religion. I guess it's a good way to get lots of religious holidays off from work.

then there was the day recently when she went off on kelly rippa who wasnt even ON her show because when clay aikens--unofficial gay man-- put his hand over kellys mouth kelly said "dont do that, i dont know where that hand has been" (or something very similar). rosie decided that that was homophobic because, i guess, gay hands are thought to be more nasty than straight ones.

yeah she's nutz. annoyingly nutz.
Grave_n_idle
16-12-2006, 20:24
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............

I suspect she is misusing the word 'believe'.

I celebrate a load of irrelevent holidays for me... from 4th July to Christmas. I do it, unashamedly, for the fellowship of family, and for the food. :)

She probably means something like she 'recognises' all the religions, or something... although, even then, it would be almost meaningless in it's inaccuracy.
New Stalinberg
16-12-2006, 20:25
She died in that Simpsons episode if it makes you feel any better.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
16-12-2006, 20:27
Now she believes in every religion. I guess it's a good way to get lots of religious holidays off from work.

:eek: You are right! *converts to every religion* I'm like Pi! I shall never have to work again!
Bitchkitten
16-12-2006, 20:29
It's quite obvious she's an idiot. Perhaps a well-meaning idiot, but an idiot nonetheless.
Skibereen
16-12-2006, 20:36
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes
This is the only mistake you made.

I am confused............
This is normal after exposure to such rampant stupidity, just stay away from your television for a few hours and it will pass.

But under no circumstances expose yourself to day time talk shows again.
Another exposure and we might loose you forever.
New Xero Seven
16-12-2006, 21:00
Hey, its possible. People identify themselves with many faiths.
My friend is Buddhist, yet he celebrates Christmas.
I'm mostly a Universal Universalist, Agnostic, and Liberal Christian Protestant, and I'm also 9% Muslim. :D
Soviet Haaregrad
16-12-2006, 22:36
Rosie's an idiot, additionally her voice causes me great physical and mental distress.
Harlesburg
16-12-2006, 22:47
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............
She is an idiot, i suggest you never watch The View again.
Lacadaemon
16-12-2006, 22:51
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. - Stephen Roberts.

All religions are equally true. I see no reason why you can't therefore believe them all - if indeed belief is your cup of tea.

However, the O'Donnell female is borderline retarded.
Ariddia
16-12-2006, 22:53
how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?


Actually, you can. Saying that there is only one religion is something of a particularity of monotheistic religions. In other parts of the world, when Christianity arrived, people adopted it without automatically giving up their old beliefs.

To give you a couple of examples, some African-Cubans hold syncretic beliefs which merge traditional African deities into Christianity, describing them as one and the same as Christian saints. (Also true in other parts of the Caribbean and, I think, Latin America.)

More significantly, perhaps, New Zealand Maori in the 19th century often became Christians while maintaining their own religious beliefs, either in parallel or merging them. This was due to the Maori belief that (to simplify) if a religion exists, it must be true, therefore all religions are true and it makes perfect sense to belong to all of them.

You're used to thinking in terms of religions being mutually exclusive. But that has never been a universal view.

Although in this particular case I don't suppose that's what was meant...
Forsakia
16-12-2006, 23:04
Rosie doesn't strike me as having a strong grasp of reality. One time she was interviewing some actor. Tom Selek maybe. She went off on him about gun control. WTF? He's just an actor who happens to own guns. If you want to debate gun control interview Wayne La Pierre or something.

Now she believes in every religion. I guess it's a good way to get lots of religious holidays off from work.

And sue anyone who tries to stop her. No idea what she's like in general, but this sounds like an excellent idea, now someone get me a rabbi, a vicar, an imam, and all the rest of them.:)
Wilgrove
16-12-2006, 23:08
People really should learn to just tune Rosie out, either that or they should start giving the audience of "The View" eggs.
Accelerus
16-12-2006, 23:12
Yeah, she's an idiot. Unfortunately, she's making all the perfectly intelligent and rational liberals look bad with her antics. I'm surprised FOX News hasn't snatched her up so they can use her as a scratching post on one of their shows that pretends to air "opposing views" when in actuality they are showing "ideological nonsense".
Katganistan
16-12-2006, 23:12
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............

It's not you: she's an idiot.
Darknovae
16-12-2006, 23:13
Five minutes watching a daytime talk show is deadly, Smunkee. One more exposure and we may lose you and the rest of America's women forever. :(
Darknovae
16-12-2006, 23:14
Yeah, she's an idiot. Unfortunately, she's making all the perfectly intelligent and rational liberals look bad with her antics. I'm surprised FOX News hasn't snatched her up so they can use her as a scratching post on one of their shows that pretends to air "opposing views" when in actuality they are showing "ideological nonsense".

Is it surprising that Fox aired that god-awful "Did We Really Go To The Moon?" show? Fox is the breeding ground of retarded Democrats. :headbang:
Vernasia
17-12-2006, 00:06
It's not possible to believe in all religions; they contradict one another (though you can, of course, respect the faith of others).

Islam, Judaism, Chrisianity + others: 1 God
Hinduism + others: many gods
Atheism (if you count it as a religion): no god

Christianity: Jesus is son of God
Islam: Jesus is a prophet

Chrisianity: all who believe in Jesus will go to heaven
Jehovah's Witnesses: the best 144,000 will go to heaven
Hinduism: reincarnation

I think that is sufficient to prove my point.
Wilgrove
17-12-2006, 00:12
I think this was Rosie pathetic attempt to be "open-minded" which really just made her look like a complete idiot.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2006, 00:14
It's not possible to believe in all religions; they contradict one another (though you can, of course, respect the faith of others).

Look up the stances of several Christian denominations on the nature of the trinity.
Contradiction is not necessarily an insurmountable barrier.
Potarius
17-12-2006, 01:17
Is it surprising that Fox aired that god-awful "Did We Really Go To The Moon?" show? Fox is the breeding ground of retarded Democrats. :headbang:

...Well, retarded everything, really.
Accelerus
17-12-2006, 01:37
...Well, retarded everything, really.

Indeed. Stupidity is bipartisan.
Lacadaemon
17-12-2006, 01:42
It's not possible to believe in all religions; they contradict one another (though you can, of course, respect the faith of others).


The gospel of luke and the gospel of mathew contradict each other. Which one should christians pick?
Potarius
17-12-2006, 01:43
Indeed. Stupidity is bipartisan.

But with FOX, their stupidity seems to lean mostly toward the right.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
17-12-2006, 04:15
It is natural to be confused when first confronting one of us Istists, especially if you happen to do so whilst we are peacefully resisting against our efforts to oppress ourselves. Don't be alarmed, however, as even though we are much more enlightened, spiritual and multicultural than you could ever hope to be, we're mostly harmless.
Except, of course, on one of the 70-some-odd days out of the year that demand human sacrifice to consecrate them.
Novemberstan
17-12-2006, 04:41
Meh. Rosie is a brand. She only tried to make that brand accessible to all people dumb enough to believe in some sky fairiys. And no matter which type of sky fairie.
New Mitanni
17-12-2006, 04:45
So, Friday morning (I think) I happened upon The View for about 5 minutes (don't ask) and I caught Rosie saying this (not an exact quote, having trouble finding the video)

"I believe in all religions, I celebrate all the holidays"

how exactly can you believe in "all religions"?

and btw didn't she say a while back that she was an atheist? how can you believe in all the religions and also be an atheist?

I am confused............

If you're looking for proof that horses' asses outnumber horses, you need only watch The View. Rosie O'Fat accounts for an entire stable's worth :p
Zarakon
17-12-2006, 04:56
Satanists must burn in hell.


Heh heh. Fuckin' satanist catholic baptist hasidic muslim wiccan unitarian deist

***Thirty lines of religions deleted*

bitch.
Ariddia
17-12-2006, 14:10
It's not possible to believe in all religions

Actually, you're wrong. See my point here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12095227&postcount=28).
Vernasia
17-12-2006, 14:24
Actually, you're wrong. See my point here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12095227&postcount=28).

They don't believe in ALL religions, though.
Indeed, they don't truly believe in either of the parent religions if they have merged them.
Ariddia
17-12-2006, 14:45
They don't believe in ALL religions, though.

They are (or at least were) open to accepting potentially any new religion they became aware of.


Indeed, they don't truly believe in either of the parent religions if they have merged them.

That statement simply shows your limited understanding. I don't mean that as an insult; I merely mean that you're proving my point. The cultural context that you were brought up in has led you to view religions as mutually exclusive and as unadaptable. That hasn't been the view in many other parts of the world (South America & Caribbean, Africa, the Pacific).

You may not know this, but Christianity exists in many forms. In Latin America, it's often syncretic in Black communities. In Africa, Christianity often incorporates traditional beliefs too. I've already mentioned New Zealand Maori; the Ratana Church, a specifically Maori Christian Church, still exists today. And in Australia, Aboriginal Christians sometimes incorporate elements of their traditional religions into Christianity.

Western Christians tend to believe in Christianity in terms of the One True Church, but that's not always true of Christians in other parts of the world. For them, it's perfectly logical to believe that several (even all) religions are true, and that they represent various facets (which can even be merged) of true spirituality. When I was in Cuba, a Black Cuban explained to me about African deities being the Saints of Christianity. They're viewed primarily as traditional gods, but they're also seen as being part of Christianity. To which Jesus and God were added (in an adapted form).