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Music?

Hobos That Read
16-12-2006, 15:22
I haven't been getting a lot of new music listening now, as I tend to avoid mainstream stuff (which basically represents radio and tv) and I was wondering is there anything you could recommend me?

My friend has been getting me into Faith No More and Marilyn Manson and my sister has got me into Tool, Kyuss, Bad Religion, and NOFX all of which is really depressing. But really I am a hippy music/classic rock sort of guy say Bob Dylan and The Who, Janis Joplin and The Beatles. Those sorts of bands.

Yes, any recommedations?
Kanabia
16-12-2006, 15:23
Kyuss

:fluffle:
Myralon
16-12-2006, 15:24
Well I'm listening to 10 Years - "The Autumn Effect", and I think it's marvelous.
I V Stalin
16-12-2006, 15:26
www.65daysofstatic.com

What? :p


and my sister has got me into Tool, NOFX
She seems to have pretty good taste in music.
Anraxia
16-12-2006, 15:28
I have a good one for you, try listening to apocalyptica.
They're an all-cello metal band, almost completely instrumental beautifully done metal. They also did lots of instrumental metallica covers worth listening to.
Enjoy!
Monkeypimp
16-12-2006, 15:28
I haven't been getting a lot of new music listening now, as I tend to avoid mainstream stuff (which basically represents radio and tv) and I was wondering is there anything you could recommend me?

My friend has been getting me into Faith No More and Marilyn Manson and my sister has got me into Tool, Kyuss, Bad Religion, and NOFX all of which is really depressing. But really I am a hippy music/classic rock sort of guy say Bob Dylan and The Who, Janis Joplin and The Beatles. Those sorts of bands.

Yes, any recommedations?

All of which I've heard on the radio several times. Admittedly it was on a station that doesn't exist anymore because no one listened to it, but still.
I V Stalin
16-12-2006, 15:30
I have a good one for you, try listening to apocalyptica.
They're an all-cello metal band, almost completely instrumental beautifully done metal. They also did lots of instrumental metallica covers worth listening to.
Enjoy!
They started off just with cellos but they've got a drummer now. And I heard one of their more recent albums a few days ago and it had guitar on it too. Wasn't as good as Cult.
Kanabia
16-12-2006, 15:45
Oh, although I do disagree that Kyuss are a depressing band. Some songs, maybe, but they have more than enough upbeat trippy songs to counterbalance that. But now, I don't really specialise in happy music (when i'm happy, I usually go for silly or plain weird music), but if you want to put Kyuss in perspective, Electric Wizard are similar in a lot of ways but much, much more bleak in outlook and feel.

If you're interested in trying something a bit more upbeat but also somewhat similar stylistically to Kyuss, there's always Fu Manchu or Monster Magnet.

But, I suppose I can indulge your bizarre need for non-depressing hippie music. You aren't a hippie if you don't listen to the Doors or the Velvet Underground, although neither are always bright and happy. But i'll assume you are already familiar with them.

How about the Pixies, then? They're pretty happy sounding.

(Naturally I second 65daysofstatic too, but not because they're a happy sounding band as such.)
Curious Inquiry
16-12-2006, 15:50
Vernon Reid (http://www.myspace.com/vernonreid)
Bodies Without Organs
16-12-2006, 15:53
Oppenheimer (http://www.myspace.com/oppenheimer).

Lush, layered and dreamy analogue synth driven pop. Not 'indie pop'. Just 'pop'. Soon to be massive. Hit that page and hunt out 'Breakfast In NYC'.
Hobos That Read
16-12-2006, 15:59
Thanks for the help guys...you seem...enthusastic about my music choices:)
I V Stalin
16-12-2006, 16:00
Thanks for the help guys...you seem...enthusastic about my music choices:)
You'll always find someone here who supports your music choices. Unless it's Insane Clown Posse.
Curious Inquiry
16-12-2006, 16:00
Thanks for the help guys...you seem...enthusastic about my music choices:)

Just trying to share the tastiness you may have missed in the mainstream media ;)
Kanabia
16-12-2006, 16:03
You'll always find someone here who supports your music choices. Unless it's Insane Clown Posse.

ICP fans might still be redeemed.

There are worse. Like Rush fans.That's only because I know Potarius will eventually stumble across this and get all up in arms about it. Not because I actually mean it. ;-)
Curious Inquiry
16-12-2006, 16:04
ICP fans might still be redeemed.

There are worse. Like Rush fans.That's only because I know Potarius will eventually stumble across this and get all up in arms about it. Not because I actually mean it. ;-)

Troll! LOL :p
Hobos That Read
16-12-2006, 16:06
Oh, although I do disagree that Kyuss are a depressing band.

But, I suppose I can indulge your bizarre need for non-depressing hippie music. You aren't a hippie if you don't listen to the Doors or the Velvet Underground, although neither are always bright and happy. But i'll assume you are already familiar with them.

How about the Pixies, then? They're pretty happy sounding.


I was speaking specifically then about the bands, I do agree that Kyuss aren't that depressing, I was listening to ...And The Circus Leaves Town and it got a little, heavy? I suppose thats right, but nah, I was more refering to Tool/Faith No More/Marilyn Manson.

Oh course I listen to the Doors, a great band, overrated like heaps of bands but still a great band. I know of Velvet Underground, I just haven't heard anything (that I know of).

I've got a couple of Pixies songs, Monkeys Gone To Heaven and Where Is My Mind and Monkeys Gone To Heaven is pretty upbeat which is kind of the opposite to Where Is My Mind, in my opinion.
Hobos That Read
16-12-2006, 16:10
ICP fans might still be redeemed.

There are worse. Like Rush fans.That's only because I know Potarius will eventually stumble across this and get all up in arms about it. Not because I actually mean it. ;-)

Ironically I am a fan of Rush;)

EDIT: Or is that co-incidentally? Goddam you brain!
Curious Inquiry
16-12-2006, 16:11
I was speaking specifically then about the bands, I do agree that Kyuss aren't that depressing, I was listening to ...And The Circus Leaves Town and it got a little, heavy? I suppose thats right, but nah, I was more refering to Tool/Faith No More/Marilyn Manson.

Oh course I listen to the Doors, a great band, overrated like heaps of bands but still a great band. I know of Velvet Underground, I just haven't heard anything (that I know of).

I've got a couple of Pixies songs, Monkeys Gone To Heaven and Where Is My Mind and Monkeys Gone To Heaven is pretty upbeat which is kind of the opposite to Where Is My Mind, in my opinion.

Especially if you like the female vocals in the Pixies, check out Kim Deal's other bands, the Breeders (http://www.4ad.com/breeders/) and the Amps (http://www.4ad.com/theamps/) ;)
Hobos That Read
16-12-2006, 16:14
Especially if you like the female vocals in the Pixies, check out Kim Deal's other bands, the Breeders (http://www.4ad.com/breeders/) and the Amps (http://www.4ad.com/theamps/) ;)

Oh really? I think you may've turned me on those other band:p
Kanabia
16-12-2006, 16:21
I was speaking specifically then about the bands, I do agree that Kyuss aren't that depressing, I was listening to ...And The Circus Leaves Town and it got a little, heavy?

Yeah, it certainly is. But what sets it apart from most heavy music is that it's a mellow "heavy" that you can sit back and chill out to. There's no real sense of aggression in it, no fake angst in the music. That's one of the things that makes them special, in my opinion, since that's such an unheard of thing in most heavy music. I'd recommend Welcome to Sky Valley, the album before that one as their best album. (and a contender for my favourite album)

I suppose thats right, but nah, I was more refering to Tool/Faith No More/Marilyn Manson.

I never really found those bands all that depressing, but then I wouldn't say that they're exactly happy music either.


I know of Velvet Underground, I just haven't heard anything (that I know of).

Start off with their first album, The Velvet Underground and Nico (the one with the banana on the cover.). You'll probably like it, but which of their albums is actually the best of their lot is a very individual thing. Their first album is their most recognised "classic", however.

I've got a couple of Pixies songs, Monkeys Gone To Heaven and Where Is My Mind and Monkeys Gone To Heaven is pretty upbeat which is kind of the opposite to Where Is My Mind, in my opinion.

Most of it is pretty upbeat. If you like what you've heard, they'd be well worth checking out more. :)


Troll! LOL :p

He'll get the joke. :p
Kanabia
16-12-2006, 16:23
Ironically I am a fan of Rush;)

EDIT: Or is that co-incidentally? Goddam you brain!

The latter. And i've got nothing against Rush, I just like to shit-stir. :p
Curious Inquiry
16-12-2006, 16:26
He'll get the joke. :p

Yah dah, I vas jokink alzo ;)
I V Stalin
16-12-2006, 16:26
I never really found those bands all that depressing, but then I wouldn't say that they're exactly happy music either.
Funny, maybe, with regard to Tool. Rosetta Stoned, anyone?
Call to power
16-12-2006, 16:27
Soon to be massive. Hit that page and hunt out 'Breakfast In NYC'.

pffft what century do you live in old timer? :p

I say Marjorie fair or maybe matchbox 20 (just because I can’t stand them)
Hobos That Read
16-12-2006, 16:38
The latter. And i've got nothing against Rush, I just like to shit-stir. :p

white text ftw;)
Curious Inquiry
16-12-2006, 17:09
Here's a couple prog rock bands, Yes (http://www.yesworld.com/) and Focus (http://www.google.com/musica?aid=yPBILnVmwoI&sa=X&oi=music&ct=result)
Many know the first, not so many the second.
Brutland and Norden
16-12-2006, 17:11
Upbeat rock/metal? Boy, that's pretty hard to find. I listen to angry ones: Flaw; Five.Bolt.Main; Breaking Benjamin; Seether. If you like gothic metal go try Lacuna Coil.

The voice of the lead of Coheed and Cambria had been compared with Rush, though I haven't heard Rush, just Co&Ca.

Seems to me you want indie rock. Go try the 905 music scene. They've got lots of great bands out there.
Czardas
16-12-2006, 17:22
Get in touch with a prog-rock band and have them arrange parts of Bartok's Fifth String Quartet. It would redefine awesome.
Interesting Specimens
16-12-2006, 17:29
For some upbeat music... (mostly indie/rock stuff because I don;t really do metal)

Animal Collective - OK so, less upbeat more weird but they're either chilled or crazed, both of which are fun.

Genesis - The EARLY stuff. Anything before 'And Then There Were Three'. It's like Rush but with weirder FX and an epic bent. OK, except the Foxtrot album which sucks for all of side one (side 2 being one HUGE song, 'tis excellent).

OK Go - OK so they are famous now, they weren't once and tey still do good, funky stuff :p (I'm still annoyed I missed them with Motion City Soundtrack in the summer :( )

Five Iron Frenzy - I'm never entirely sure what to make of 'em but they are pretty fun.

Jack Johnson - Acoustic music for those who want to lie back and pretend they're in the tropics without the malaria, the shitty roads and the foreign languages. It's about as far removed from the angst of most metal/rock bands as you can possibly get.

Oh, and Motorhead. 70's metal performed without any shame at all.
Bodies Without Organs
16-12-2006, 17:37
Get in touch with a prog-rock band and have them arrange parts of Bartok's Fifth String Quartet. It would redefine awesome.

I don't think they ever re-did the Fifth String Quartet, but Hungary's very own Panta Rhei (http://www.sdss.jhu.edu/~szalay/music/pantarhei.html) certainly tangled with some of his other pieces.
Bodies Without Organs
16-12-2006, 17:38
Especially if you like the female vocals in the Pixies, check out Kim Deal's other bands, the Breeders (http://www.4ad.com/breeders/) and the Amps (http://www.4ad.com/theamps/) ;)

Or, in a similar vein Throwing Muses. Mention should also be made of The Muffs. Fantastic stuff.
Czardas
16-12-2006, 17:45
I don't think they ever re-did the Fifth String Quartet, but Hungary's very own Panta Rhei (http://www.sdss.jhu.edu/~szalay/music/pantarhei.html) certainly tangled with some of his other pieces.

That's a pity. He should have done the Fifth; the first movement is halfway to being a jazz riff already...
The Mindset
16-12-2006, 17:45
Ugh. Again with the metal shite.
Bodies Without Organs
16-12-2006, 17:47
That's a pity. He should have done the Fifth; the first movement is halfway to being a jazz riff already...

'He' is a band.
Panta Rhei.
From the Greek.
Heraclitus, y'know?
Everything flows/All things are flux and all that.
The Metal Horde
16-12-2006, 18:17
www.65daysofstatic.com

What? :p

I'm liking this.

Genesis

Oh, and Motorhead. 70's metal performed without any shame at all.

*nod*
Czardas
16-12-2006, 18:26
'He' is a band.
Panta Rhei.
From the Greek.
Heraclitus, y'know?
Everything flows/All things are flux and all that.

I know, for some reason I wrote "he" instead of "they". My mind is acting funny today.
I V Stalin
16-12-2006, 18:26
I'm liking this.
I think I could like you. :)
The Metal Horde
16-12-2006, 18:29
I think I could like you. :)

It's not even kinda liking, I'm really liking this.
Kanabia
16-12-2006, 18:36
It's not even kinda liking, I'm really liking this.

Welcome to post-rock. Enjoy your stay. :D
The Metal Horde
16-12-2006, 18:39
Welcome to post-rock. Enjoy your stay. :D

That reminds me, I stole some post-rock stuff from my friend, I don't remember what it was, but I know I have it, and I know I haven't listened to it yet.
Potarius
16-12-2006, 18:40
Listen to some Husker Du. Sure, they have a lot of depressing songs, but they have just as many uplifting ones.

You could call them "Art Punk".
Londim
16-12-2006, 18:41
A must listen (http://youtube.com/watch?v=u-lkVBPOdW4)

Hauntingly good...
The Metal Horde
16-12-2006, 18:44
A must listen (http://youtube.com/watch?v=u-lkVBPOdW4)

Hauntingly good...

You know, I've heard Muse was good, but I never really listened to them because my brother liked them, and I tend to subjectively dislike everything he listens to.

Edit: I really like this. Raise the pitch of the voice, and I could see Cedric of the Mars Volta singing this. Not that I'm saying it's real similar to the Volta (not trying to offend other Volta fans :))
Londim
16-12-2006, 18:46
You know, I've heard Muse was good, but I never really listened to them because my brother liked them, and I tend to subjectively dislike everything he listens to.

Try them out. Just start from the beginning with their first album Showbiz and work upto Black Holes and Revelations. All imo great albums
Kiryu-shi
16-12-2006, 18:46
http://www.thedeadballera.com/MeetTheMets62Version.mp3


*hides*
I V Stalin
16-12-2006, 18:47
You know, I've heard Muse was good, but I never really listened to them because my brother liked them, and I tend to subjectively dislike everything he listens to.

Edit: I really like this. Raise the pitch of the voice, and I could see Cedric of the Mars Volta singing this.
Muse are good fun. They're like a modern-day Queen, in a way. Personally I don't think the new album is as good as Origin of Symmetry (not sure they'll ever do an album better than that IMO), but it's still a bloody good listen.
Potarius
16-12-2006, 18:47
http://www.thedeadballera.com/MeetTheMets62Version.mp3


*hides*

Dude. I should strangle you for even having the thought. :p
Celtlund
16-12-2006, 18:50
Yes, any recommedations?

Go here http://www.liveireland.com/ and click on the and click on the "trad & folk" button in the upper left corner. Good stuff and free to boot. :)
Kiryu-shi
16-12-2006, 18:51
Dude. I should strangle you for even having the thought. :p

What are you talking about, it's the best song in the world!

*hides far, far away*
Potarius
16-12-2006, 18:52
What are you talking about, it's the best song in the world!

*hides far, far away*

It's only the best song in the world when Mr. Met gets clotheslined by a taught string, which also happens to decapitate him. On television.
Isidoor
16-12-2006, 18:58
grandaddy (http://www.grandaddylandscape.com/) has some very happy songs, some sad ones too, but never really depressing. try to find their song AM 180.
Kiryu-shi
16-12-2006, 19:01
It's only the best song in the world when Mr. Met gets clotheslined by a taught string, which also happens to decapitate him. On television.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Wha.....

:(
Potarius
16-12-2006, 19:02
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Wha.....

:(

Oh come on, you didn't see that episode of Late Night with Conan O'Brien?
Kiryu-shi
16-12-2006, 19:10
Oh come on, you didn't see that episode of Late Night with Conan O'Brien?

....no?

I have a poster of Mr. Met hanging in my room...
Saxnot
16-12-2006, 19:11
I am a hippy music/classic rock sort of guy say Bob Dylan and The Who, Janis Joplin and The Beatles. Those sorts of bands.

Yes, any recommedations?

I'm just the same as you (down to isolating myself almost completely from modern music), so here's my reccomendations in that precise field (not complete, just a selection):

Jefferson Airplane (Surrealistic Pillow and Volunteers are amazing), Santana (Santana, Abraxas), Big Brother & the Holding Company (Cheap Thrills), early Led Zepellin (I, II), Cream (Disraeli Gears, Wheels of Fire), Crosby, Stills, & Nash (Crosby, Stills, & Nash)...
If you're up for downloading, try getting torrents of music from Woodstock, or perhaps you could get the film (which is amazing).

ENJOY!:D
Hallucinogenic Tonic
16-12-2006, 19:28
Acid Bath (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=ACID|BATH&sql=11:3sq7g4jttv6z~T1)
Haggard (http://www.haggard.de/)
Saturnus (http://www.saturnus.dk/)
After Forever (http://www.afterforever.com/)
My Dying Bride (http://www.mydyingbride.org/)
The blessed Chris
17-12-2006, 01:40
Beyond All Reason
Azriel
Every Time I Die
Avenged Sevenfold
Enter Shikari
Wiztopia
17-12-2006, 01:53
Einherjer
Iron Maiden
Twisted Tower Dire
Therion
Blind Guardian
KooleKoggle
17-12-2006, 01:55
Kottonmouth Kings
The Metal Horde
17-12-2006, 02:05
Einherjer
Iron Maiden
Twisted Tower Dire
Therion
Blind Guardian

I agree 3/5, only because I haven't heard Einherjer of Twisted Tower Dire.
Jello Biafra
17-12-2006, 03:35
Since the OP seems to be more interested in rock than in metal, my suggestions will be more rock-oriented.

Local H www.localh.com
My Bloody Valentine, Rasputina, Sebadoh, Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, Ministry, Mudhoney, the Melvins, Screaming Trees, Pavement, The Plasmatics, Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, L7, Babes In Toyland, Hole, the Gits, Uncle Tupelo, Wilco, Cracker, Veruca Salt

For some older (read: formed pre-1975) bands, try: Pink Fairies, Amon Duul, the Fugs, Shocking Blue, King Crimson, Pentagram, 13th Floor Elevators

The voice of the lead of Coheed and Cambria had been compared with Rush, though I haven't heard Rush, just Co&Ca.The singer of Co&Ca is much closer sounding to the singer of Wheatus than Geddy Lee's voice. (Geddy Lee being the singer of Rush.)
Infinite Revolution
17-12-2006, 03:58
hippy music that doesn't soun'd like the authors have been stoned or doing k-lines for the past 5 years. (http://www.thegoteam.co.uk/flash/Music.html)

and +1 for 65daysofstatic ;)
Kamber
17-12-2006, 04:21
Well I'm currently spinning 'Purple Onion' by 'Les Claypool's Fearless Flying Frog Brigade', but then that's the kind of wierd crap I listen to.

You might give Rush, or King Crimson a try, a bit of prog is always fun.
Andaluciae
17-12-2006, 04:23
I would recommend Rush, specifically 2112 or Hemispheres.