NationStates Jolt Archive


So, that whole Clinton spying on Princess Di thing?

The Nazz
15-12-2006, 01:54
Not so much (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTZlODYxYzYxMmU4YTg0NWM5NGM5NGRiZWMwNTRkMzU=). I'm shocked, SHOCKED! that Eve Online didn't post this after the fuss she made about it earlier in the week.
But the Lord Stevens report contains no mention of Forstmann and no description of anyone like him, nor does it have any evidence that anything like the Forstmann scenario took place. The closest thing is information the Stevens inquiry received from American writer/investigator Gerald Posner, who, in the course of working on the story of Diana’s death, heard that American intelligence authorities had listened to one of Diana’s calls:

Gerald Posner told of further information apparently being collected relating to the Princess of Wales during a telephone conversation she had with a friend, Lucia Flecha de Lima. Gerald Posner was played a short extract from what he believed to be a recording of a telephone conversation. He stated that this conversation was “evidently intercepted by the NSA”…”having originated from the Brazilian Embassy in Washington” which might have been the subject of surveillance or monitoring. At the time of the alleged conversation, the Brazilian Ambassador to Washington was the husband of Lucia Flecha de Lima.

In another part of the report, Lord Stevens passes on a statement from Posner:

Lucia Flecha de Lima was among those I interviewed. Prior to this I was able to listen to a small portion of a conversation that had apparently taken place between her and Diana, Princess of Wales during a phone conversation. That conversation was evidently intercepted electronically by the NSA, having originated from the Brazilian Embassy in Washington. I could only decipher a British woman and a woman with a slight Hispanic accent talking about hairstyles. However when I mentioned the details to Lucia Flecha de Lima she confirmed this conversation had taken place between herself and Diana, Princess of Wales.

The Lord Stevens report concludes, “The inference from Gerald Posner’s information was that the embassy, and not the Princess of Wales, was the subject of any telephone interception.” Why the U.S. might have been bugging the Brazilian embassy is another question, but one that most likely involved legitimate national security concerns.

So, I guess that what was going on wasn't a violation of those FISA laws the Bush administration seems to have such a problem with. Yet another false equivalency down the tubes.

Do you think they ever get tired of it?
Interesting Specimens
15-12-2006, 01:56
Hang on, if they WERE bugging an embassy isn;t that still a violation of diplomatic immunity?
The Nazz
15-12-2006, 01:58
Hang on, if they WERE bugging an embassy isn;t that still a violation of diplomatic immunity?

Nah--just spying, which is another thing all together.
The Phoenix Milita
15-12-2006, 01:59
Wake up, everyone spies on everyone else.