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What have you done?

Skibereen
15-12-2006, 00:41
I read NSG and I see a lot of people jabber on about this and that.
About what is wrong with one thing or another and then slam someone else who does exactly what they are doing from a different side of the coin.

My question is...

What have you actually done to fix any of these things you piss and moan about?

What action have you taken beyond running your mouth to people who most likely already agree with you.

Donations of money and or time?

Grinding?

Where have you put your ass on the line for your convictions?

The title of the thread says it all--

What have you done?


Me personally, I am as guilty as I believe the rest of you to be.
The real actions I have ever taken were donating money annually to Sinn Fein(Done Legally through "FoSFUSA") and Grinding for them, in an unofficial capacity.

Pretty much all the other things I feel strongly about---I have been less then impressive.

I also do donate to my church and do go down and help pass out food at the shelter down town...but not as often as I should(for as much sh*t as I talk).
Nadkor
15-12-2006, 00:44
Me personally, I am as guilty as I believe the rest of you to be.
The real actions I have ever taken were donating money annually to Sinn Fein(Done Legally through "FoSFUSA") and Grinding for them, in an unofficial capacity.

Congratulations, you've helped fun a paramilitary terrorist organisation who took a country to virtual civil war and killed over 2,000 people.


Feel proud of yourself.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 00:46
Congratulations, you've helped fun a paramilitary terrorist organisation who took a country to virtual civil war and killed over 2,000 people.


Feel proud of yourself.

I do.
More proud of them though.

For the record--Sinn Fein is a political party. You are talking about any one of the various incarnations of the IRA.

EDITED--I Slandered Nadkor, I was WRONG...I apologized...that debate is OVER. Original purpose of thread please.
Criik
15-12-2006, 00:46
As I mentioned in one of my previous threads, I highly suspect that most of the people on this thread wont do anything.
Call to power
15-12-2006, 00:48
well I:

-Advise people to leave the Sun for bird cages
-let people do the political compass with me having to explain a surprising amount (with very good neutrality I must say)
-explaining to people different views and arguing with large groups by myself (hasn’t affected my popularity)

Though nothing to help my own political opinions beyond debating with my mates the best kind IMHO
Lunatic Goofballs
15-12-2006, 00:50
Sometimes, when nobody is looking, I plant tulip bulbs by the side of highways. :)
Nadkor
15-12-2006, 00:51
I do.
More proud of them though.

Yeah, mindless slaughter of civilians through the use of bombs, through kidnapping a civilian's family and forcing him to drive bombs to military targets and then detonating the bomb and killing the civilian, through paramilitary gang attacks, and the decimation of a country's economy....definitely a thing to be proud of.

For the record--Sinn Fein is a political party. You are talking about any one of the various incarnations of the IRA.

The Provisional IRA. The military wing of Sinn Fein. Or Sinn Fein is the political wing of PIRA. Take it whichever way round you want, it's all the same thing.

I see by your response you have done nothing but run your mouth.
That is one for "Lacks any strength of convictions, or grip on reality" next.

You see nothing from my response, as I gave no indication of deeds done or not.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 00:51
CTP, I dont mean just politics.
Do you volunteer in a soup kitchen?
Help younger kids learn to read?

Anything to better society as you see it, beyond jawjacking on these boards.
Call to power
15-12-2006, 00:53
For the record--Sinn Fein is a political party.

hence the word "paramilitary"

Oh, I didnt catch your location--your a filthy Unionist, like that assassin they caught last month.

so because she live in Ireland she is:

1) a unionist
2) filthy

you’ know after all the effort put into the peace process it still surprises me dinosaurs like you are still around

edit: yes nobody ever...ever insults Nadkor on my watch "grrrr"
Laerod
15-12-2006, 00:54
I dropped most of my small change into one of the collection tins that were out at the shopping center and part of the money I paid for my copy of the Iraq Study Group Report is going to the National Military Family Association.

In the past, I've taken a year off and worked in a catholic social institution in an afterschool program for the local kids.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 00:57
Sometimes, when nobody is looking, I plant tulip bulbs by the side of highways. :)Way to go. You know that they distract drivers with their pretty colors and cause accidents, don't you? I hope you're real proud of yourself, you murderer! :mad: =P
Call to power
15-12-2006, 00:59
Anything to better society as you see it, beyond jawjacking on these boards.

well I am joining the military but I'm not doing it for the community (and I would think teaching politics as one of the biggest things you can do for a person and the nation)

I also tend to help strangers out if I see they need it and refrain from being the teenage vandal
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 00:59
hence the word "paramilitary"



so because she live in Ireland she is:

1) a unionist
2) filthy

you’ know after all the effort put into the peace process it still surprises me dinosaurs like you are still around

How shocking another Brit who ignores the filth on their own hands for Ireland and blames the Irish for not knuckling their foreheads.


Because of her statement and her location she is
1. A Unionist
By being a Unionist that makes her automatically
2.Filthy
Nadkor
15-12-2006, 00:59
Oh, I didnt catch your location--your a filthy Unionist, like that assassin they caught last month. But Sinn Fein are the murderers. Piss off.

Nice assumption. Wrong.
Curious Inquiry
15-12-2006, 00:59
As I mentioned in one of my previous threads, I highly suspect that most of the people on this thread wont do anything.

My job involves a lot of work with and for the community I live in. On NSG, I try to bring levity and wit to threads that sorely need it, and mockery to those who deserve it :cool:
Lunatic Goofballs
15-12-2006, 00:59
Way to go. You know that they distract drivers with their pretty colors and cause accidents, don't you? I hope you're real proud of yourself, you murderer! :mad: =P

*dances amongst the carnage* =)
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:01
I also tend to help strangers out if I see they need it

Yeah, that is what I mean...not exactly sure what you mean.
Greyenivol Colony
15-12-2006, 01:02
I do.
More proud of them though.

For the record--Sinn Fein is a political party. You are talking about any one of the various incarnations of the IRA.

I see by your response you have done nothing but run your mouth.
That is one for "Lacks any strength of convictions, or grip on reality" next.
Oh, I didnt catch your location--your a filthy Unionist, like that assassin they caught last month. But Sinn Fein are the murderers. Piss off.

1) You are not Irish, so stay the fuck away from Irish matters.

2) You are supporting an organisation that is directly implicated in the murder of my countrymen. You are the filth.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:04
Nice assumption. Wrong.

Hardly.

I suppose you are all for a United Ireland not UNder English occupation, completely self ruled.

Thats why you call Sinn Fein terrorists because so many others were working towards that goal.

You can't have it both ways.
The Judas Panda
15-12-2006, 01:05
How shocking another Brit who ignores the filth on their own hands for Ireland and blames the Irish for not knuckling their foreheads.


Because of her statement and her location she is
1. A Unionist
By being a Unionist that makes her automatically
2.Filthy

What a marvellously biased view you have there but you know I think I'd rather listen to people who live there give their opinion on Sinn Feinn and their known Ira connections.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:05
1) You are not Irish, so stay the fuck away from Irish matters.

2) You are supporting an organisation that is directly implicated in the murder of my countrymen. You are the filth.

Another.
Call to power
15-12-2006, 01:05
How shocking another Brit who ignores the filth on their own hands for Ireland and blames the Irish for not knuckling their foreheads.

oh joy another former British territory who blames all there problems on Britain because they can't find anyone to blame but themselves

face it you have had enough time to make peace, yet you don't you still insist that Northern Ireland somehow wants you like a sick stalker

Because of her statement and her location she is
1. A Unionist
By being a Unionist that makes her automatically
2.Filthy

1) she could be just anti-Sinn fain
2) no that makes her a sensible normal person who doesn't give in to every ignorant fool who says she is lower than animals
Curious Inquiry
15-12-2006, 01:07
oh joy another former British territory who blames all there problems on Britain because they can't find anyone to blame but themselves

face it you have had enough time to make peace, yet you don't you still insist that Northern Ireland somehow wants you like a sick stalker



1) she could be just anti-Sinn fain
2) no that makes her a sensible normal person who doesn't give in to every ignorant fool who says she is lower than animals

Hey, y'all? I made a thread for you to beat each other up in, okay? TTFN :)
Laerod
15-12-2006, 01:07
Hardly.

I suppose you are all for a United Ireland not UNder English occupation, completely self ruled.

Thats why you call Sinn Fein terrorists because so many others were working towards that goal.

You can't have it both ways.You know, as someone who's neither Irish nor Northern Irish, yeah, Sinn Fein do look like a bunch of idiots to me. They have their counterparts in Northern Ireland, but that doesn't excuse their nationalist agenda and ongoing support or covering up of criminal activities by the IRA and its various off shoots or reincarnations.
Call to power
15-12-2006, 01:07
Yeah, that is what I mean...not exactly sure what you mean.

well I help people load cars if they need help and just last week I helped a blind man cross the road because the council neglected to fix a traffic light nothing special I would say I’m just being a nice human
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:07
What a marvellously biased view you have there but you know I think I'd rather listen to people who live there give their opinion on Sinn Feinn and their known Ira connections.

I didnt ask what you wold rather do, I never attempted to change anyones mind.

As matter of fact she could have said what she is doing to help her community.

But instead someone thousands of miles away is more interested in her land then she is....so spare me your uninformed opinion.

I would rather trust the people fighting for Ireland then the people trying to give it away.
Jenrak
15-12-2006, 01:08
Another.

That doesn't make him one. Stop assuming things.
Nadkor
15-12-2006, 01:08
Hardly.

I suppose you are all for a United Ireland not UNder English occupation, completely self ruled.

I care neither way, as long as nobody bothers me. There are far more important issues to consider; healthcare, education, welfare etc.

Thats why you call Sinn Fein terrorists because so many others were working towards that goal.

Yes, many others were; until the turn of the century the biggest nationalist (i.e. aiming for united Irish Republic) party was the SDLP. Definitely not Sinn Fein, and completely opposed to the IRA.

I think you need to look a bit harder into Northern/Irish politics.

You can't have it both ways.

I very clearly could, if I so wished.




Oh, and as for the original purpose of the thread.

As I care about the environment and the countryside around me, I regularly volunteer for the National Trust Northern Ireland. I used to do it every weekend, but can't so regularly anymore. Still do when I can.

In 2003 I spent the summer volunteering in a shitty orphanage in Romania. The kids had nothing, I was happy to help in any way I could.

In 2002 I spent a week in Yacutinga National Park, Argentina, helping with reforestation efforts in the southern reaches of the rainforest around the Iguacu falls. We reckoned we got about 10,000 trees and planted over a large-ish area.

I give regular payments to various charities. I used to do youth leadership at a local scout group. And I do general busywork for my grandmother's elderly friends.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:09
well I help people load cars if they need help and just last week I helped a blind man cross the road because the council neglected to fix a traffic light nothing special I would say I’m just being a nice human

My elderly aunt was just in the UK and said a bunch of young men(she described Punks) helped her with her bags and were extremely polite, far more then the young people here.
Funny you mention that.
Call to power
15-12-2006, 01:12
But instead someone thousands of miles away is more interested in her land then she is....so spare me your uninformed opinion.

you would think someone living in the country would now just a tickle more than you dear

I suppose you are all for a United Ireland not UNder English occupation, completely self ruled.

oh noez!!!! the evil UK plot has been revealed we thought we had you with the splitting of Ireland so that everyone could be happy and we could invade again
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:16
I care neither way, as long as nobody bothers me. There are far more important issues to consider; healthcare, education, welfare etc.

[quote]Thats why you call Sinn Fein terrorists because so many others were working towards that goal.

Yes, many others were; until the turn of the century the biggest nationalist (i.e. aiming for united Irish Republic) party was the SDLP. Definitely not Sinn Fein, and completely opposed to the IRA.

I think you need to look a bit harder into Northern/Irish politics.



I very clearly could, if I so wished.
I dont liek the SDLP I believe they undermine the effort of my family there and here.

However.

I deeply apologize for slandering you, I stand corrected.
The SDLP, to the best of my knowledge has never supported or been invovled in armed struggle. While I find no virtue in that, they are indeed for a united Ireland, and to that end-you can indeed have it both ways.

They are hardly larger then Sinn Fein if by a breath--and equally hated depending on where you are.

Again, I am sorry.
Call to power
15-12-2006, 01:16
My elderly aunt was just in the UK and said a bunch of young men(she described Punks) helped her with her bags and were extremely polite, far more then the young people here.
Funny you mention that.

odds are they expected a reward (it seems customary to give everyone £2 tip here which goes well towards bus fair home and such)

I thought punks had died out though?
The Infinite Dunes
15-12-2006, 01:16
I do.
More proud of them though.

For the record--Sinn Fein is a political party. You are talking about any one of the various incarnations of the IRA.

I see by your response you have done nothing but run your mouth.
That is one for "Lacks any strength of convictions, or grip on reality" next.
Oh, I didnt catch your location--your a filthy Unionist, like that assassin they caught last month. But Sinn Fein are the murderers. Piss off.Have you researched the matter? Though it appeared to me that Gerry Adams was involved in the Provisional IRA for a long time, it emerged that both the Irish and British governments believe he was part of the IRA army council (stated in 2005). The Irish government also believe Martin Ferris and Martin McGuinness were heavily involved with the PIRA. So I believe Sein Fein was directly involved with terrorism and I'm shocked that you consider funding them pre-IRA disarmament a good thing.
Ollieland
15-12-2006, 01:18
I do.
More proud of them though.

For the record--Sinn Fein is a political party. You are talking about any one of the various incarnations of the IRA.

I see by your response you have done nothing but run your mouth.
That is one for "Lacks any strength of convictions, or grip on reality" next.
Oh, I didnt catch your location--your a filthy Unionist, like that assassin they caught last month. But Sinn Fein are the murderers. Piss off.

For the record, as a Brit who has lived in Northern Ireland your views are both contradictory and condescending. Most people in Britain don't give a toss what country Northern Ireland is part of, and most people in Northern Ireland would simply like an end to terrorism. It is an undenmiable FACT that both Gerry Adams and MArtin McGuinnes were members of the PIRA (although no longer), and whilst I condemn IRA/Sinn Fein I wholeheartedly also condemn Ian Paisley and his rabble rousers and the Loyallist terrorists.

Before using the phrase "filthy unionist" try looking at the filthy actions of some of the people you claim to support.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:22
odds are they expected a reward (it seems customary to give everyone £2 tip here which goes well towards bus fair home and such)

I thought punks had died out though?
I am old they sounded like Punks to me...by any other name, hell they could have been CHavs...but then no, she said they were polite and she also said they wouldnt take her money. Go figure.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:24
Before using the phrase "filthy unionist" try looking at the filthy actions of some of the people you claim to support.
I responded passionately without thinking.
I have already apologized.
The Judas Panda
15-12-2006, 01:31
I am old they sounded like Punks to me...by any other name, hell they could have been CHavs...but then no, she said they were polite and she also said they wouldnt take her money. Go figure.

Possibly Goth or emo teenyboppers then theres a resemblance between a few of their fashions and punk.
Ollieland
15-12-2006, 01:35
I responded passionately without thinking.
I have already apologized.

I take my hat off to you sir. This is the very first time I have seen on NSG an apology for being over the top and being proved wrong.

*Doffs hat respectfully*
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:37
Thank you.
Curious Inquiry
15-12-2006, 01:44
Okay! *rubs his hands together*
Now, what have you done?
Ollieland
15-12-2006, 01:44
Okay! *rubs his hands together*
Now, what have you done?

Like most people on this forum very little I'm afraid.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 01:45
The SDLP, to the best of my knowledge has never supported or been invovled in armed struggle. While I find no virtue in that,... You've got to be kidding...
Riknaht
15-12-2006, 01:45
I like to help at shelters and food distribution centers myself.

At least once each time I'm helping, though, I'm mistaken for some sort of person of poor character.

Over thanksgiving I helped at a inpatient rehab clinic/seasonal food distributor and broke my bad image record. Twice I was assumed to be a crack addict and once a vagrant. Impressive, no?
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:46
I am done with my politics go to the other guys thread if want ot argue about this one...that is why he made it.

I already apologized for the personal attack on the young lady....I wont apologize for believing in the use of force, and supporting it.

SO no I am not kidding.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:48
I like to help at shelters and food distribution centers myself.

At least once each time I'm helping, though, I'm mistaken for some sort of person of poor character.

Over thanksgiving I helped at a inpatient rehab clinic/seasonal food distributor and broke my bad image record. Twice I was assumed to be a crack addict and once a vagrant. Impressive, no?
Given that most of this thread is filled with an arguement and not good works...yeah it is impressive.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 01:50
I am done with my politics go to the other guys thread if want ot argue about this one...that is why he made it.

I already apologized for the personal attack on the young lady....I wont apologize for believing in the use of force, and supporting it.

SO no I am not kidding.I don't know, I don't hold people that can't see the virtue of non-violent coexistence in very high esteem. I think they're hatemongering idiots.
Riknaht
15-12-2006, 01:51
Sorry if I'm just a little bit lost in this thread, but I'm just another indulgent idiot of a yankee, so go figure.

But what exactly are some of these parties? Most of our American parties are just political, bueracratic blights, they never really do much more than typical hate crimes, local violence, and little parades (anywhere from Gay pride to the KKK, all ages of people at each).
Riknaht
15-12-2006, 01:52
Heck, I was talking about being mistaken for a druggie, not for doing stuff! I think that's part of civic duty!:)

(for reference, i accidentally forgot to quote skibereen on my post on the previous page, my mistake)
Pure Metal
15-12-2006, 01:52
fuck all really
Nadkor
15-12-2006, 01:52
Sorry if I'm just a little bit lost in this thread, but I'm just another indulgent idiot of a yankee, so go figure.

But what exactly are some of these parties? Most of our American parties are just political, bueracratic blights, they never really do much more than typical hate crimes, local violence, and little parades (anywhere from Gay pride to the KKK, all ages of people at each).

Ask here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510962). Trying to de-politicise this thread.
The Infinite Dunes
15-12-2006, 01:53
In to answer to what I have done. I attended that vast majority of the anti-iraq war demos, and helped organise a school walkout for the students who felt strongly over the issue (I'm sure some of the more unscrupolous students used it as a chance to skip school).

I was also involved with a cultural exchange program where I worked in the UK and Uzbekistan, with Brits and Uzbeks alike.

I've also worked in a charity that works to help end discrimination of and assist Gypsies and Irish Travellers.

All very rewarding work, and I'm very glad I gave up my time to work on such projects.
Ollieland
15-12-2006, 01:54
Sorry if I'm just a little bit lost in this thread, but I'm just another indulgent idiot of a yankee, so go figure.

But what exactly are some of these parties? Most of our American parties are just political, bueracratic blights, they never really do much more than typical hate crimes, local violence, and little parades (anywhere from Gay pride to the KKK, all ages of people at each).

Brief synopsis (very, very, very brief)

Northern Irish politics is extremely polarised between what are loosely termed Nationalists (pro Ireland) and Unionists (pro British). The two extremes of these positions are usually referred to as Republicans and Loyallists respectively. The political parties representing the two extremes have or have had direct and indirest links to paramilitary and terrorist organisations.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
15-12-2006, 01:59
I help out those people who I know and have some practical or emotional reason to care about, everyone else can go fuck themselves.
It would be hypocritical of me to live any other way.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 01:59
I help out those people who I know and have some practical or emotional reason to care about, everyone else can go fuck themselves.
It would be hypocritical of me to live any other way.

Fair enough.
Riknaht
15-12-2006, 02:00
Brief synopsis (very, very, very brief)

Northern Irish politics is extremely polarised between what are loosely termed Nationalists (pro Ireland) and Unionists (pro British). The two extremes of these positions are usually referred to as Republicans and Loyallists respectively. The political parties representing the two extremes have or have had direct and indirest links to paramilitary and terrorist organisations.

Thanks. That explains enough for me to get the gist of the conversation.

U.S. politics aren't involved enough to be publicly violent. Maybe some hard feelings for whatever party you don't sell yourself, but it's polarized even if the people aren't in their daily lives.

God bless it, I'm glad it's peaceful where I am.
Riknaht
15-12-2006, 02:02
I help out those people who I know and have some practical or emotional reason to care about, everyone else can go fuck themselves.
It would be hypocritical of me to live any other way.

But what would ever give you a reason to care about anyone?
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 02:03
He did say emotional...which is not rational.
S he could care for no other reason then the person resembles someone he used to care about.
Rejistania
15-12-2006, 02:04
I am party member and went to demonstrations for my aims already... I participated in 2 petitions, I stream a webradio at Monday and Friday evening tomake Creative Commons music better known and fight against evil versions of the copyright.
Gatren
15-12-2006, 02:04
I volunteer for Dunks Unlimited, I donate to Amnisty International. I have a Foster Child in Thailand. And I wrote in to the Canadian Ministry of Health and Minister of Canadian Heritage about use of strobe lights and video game footage in commercials and their effects of people who suffer from epilepsy or simply find images like that cause headaches. (a subject of importance to my family). I recieved signed official documents back from them with ideas, suggestions and other people I should contact. I also write in on a regular basis to my MP in reagards to the ONE campaign about poverty in Africa.
Riknaht
15-12-2006, 02:06
I volunteer for Dunks Unlimited, I donate to Amnisty International. I have a Foster Child in Thailand. And I wrote in to the Canadian Ministry of Health and Minister of Canadian Heritage about use of strobe lights and video game footage in commercials and their effects of people who suffer from epilepsy or simply find images like that cause headaches. (a subject of importance to my family). I recieved signed official documents back from them with ideas, suggestions and other people I should contact. I also write in on a regular basis to my MP in reagards to the ONE campaign about poverty in Africa.

Thanks. I honestly mean that. Thanks.
Neesika
15-12-2006, 02:07
What have I done?

Let's see.

Well, I devoted a good five years to political activism as a student in my undergrad years...everything from organising actions, to feeding the people who came. This was pre-kids of course, so I had the time. I helped keep a national student activist paper afloat, raising money, getting articles in, wrangling publishing etc. My LIFE was my politics then...crisis prevention volunteer work, translations for Spanish-speaking immigrants and transition programs, etc etc.

Then, I graduated with a degree in Education, and got to work in aboriginal communities aside from my own, dealing with the effects of FASD, racism, and a curriculum that does not reflect our values. Six hours of paid work a day, with a good six in unpaid preparation, coaching, community work, weekends packed with various events. My life was my politics then too.

Then I had kids, and started to burn out a bit, juggling so many commitments. I slowed down, I focused on things I could schedule better, I kept working, but I cut out some of the extra stuff. But because my people need me, now I'm in Law.

I bitch and moan, you'd better believe it. But nearly every waking moment revolves around my beliefs. I have no regrets, and no guilt about it...it would mean losing my family to do more than I do, and that's not a worthy pay off.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 02:09
I am party memberWhich one?
Rejistania
15-12-2006, 02:10
Piratenpartei Deutschland, it's like the Swedish Piratpartiet (and I link to them in my sig).
Neesika
15-12-2006, 02:11
Which one?

Come on, you know which one. Only one party has their members say, "I am party member".

It involves vegetable oil, and plastic...
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 02:11
I think it is refreshing that he didnt say.
Mac Suibhne
15-12-2006, 02:12
I recycle, and I hold the door for people in public places.

Also, I smile at strangers a lot. It weirds them out.

Financially, I'm unable to do much. Sporadic donations to various charities here and there. Spend some time volunteering at the AIDS Council here in town, but not all that extensively. I could be doing a lot more, and probably should be.

It's so easy to get involved in your own immediate life and problems, though. I know I am.
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 02:14
I smile at strangers a lot.

I do that too!!!
And I must confess my day gets better when people smile at me.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 02:22
Piratenpartei Deutschland, it's like the Swedish Piratpartiet (and I link to them in my sig).I hate sigs, which is why I keep them off =P
Laerod
15-12-2006, 02:24
Come on, you know which one. Only one party has their members say, "I am party member".

It involves vegetable oil, and plastic...Vegetable oil and plastic...

For some reason, that coming from you, especially reminiscing college days a few posts earlier, sounds incredibly kinky... Unless you're not Sinuhue and everyone was lying to me.
Rejistania
15-12-2006, 02:24
Here is the link to the Swedish party-program... the German Piratenpartei has no English manifest: http://www2.piratpartiet.se/international/english
Neesika
15-12-2006, 02:27
Vegetable oil and plastic...

For some reason, that coming from you, especially reminiscing college days a few posts earlier, sounds incredibly kinky... Unless you're not Sinuhue and everyone was lying to me.

Hahahahaaaa...no, Sinuhue be I, no lie.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 02:40
Hahahahaaaa...no, Sinuhue be I, no lie.Yes, by pure coincidence, I was thinking of the pick up line involving clean sheets that you succumbed to years ago, earlier today...
Neesika
15-12-2006, 02:42
Yes, by pure coincidence, I was thinking of the pick up line involving clean sheets that you succumbed to years ago, earlier today...

The things you remember! That is really amazing! Oh, it brings back memories...I'm such a slut... :D
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
15-12-2006, 02:45
But what would ever give you a reason to care about anyone?
Caring about another's safety to the extent that you would be willing to engage in a less favorable course of action for their benefit is entirely irrational, as such it is physically impossible to formulate an informative or at all reasonable answer to your question.

In other words, the fuck I know, but it has happened and will probably happen again.
Smunkeeville
15-12-2006, 02:56
I call and annoy various government agencies and congress-type people about things most people don't even think about, but are important to me and my family.

I donate money to various organizations and I volunteer for Habitat for Humanity teaching a class on financial planning to low income families.

In the past I have taught ESL, and am currently tutoring children that attend the inner city school in my area in math and reading.
Laerod
15-12-2006, 02:56
The things you remember! That is really amazing! Oh, it brings back memories...I'm such a slut... :DOf course I remember that one. I've been waiting so long for the proper opportunity to use it... :p
Katganistan
15-12-2006, 02:59
I teach.

I donate to charity.

I encourage my students to do so as well if they are able.
Smunkeeville
15-12-2006, 03:03
I teach.

I donate to charity.

I encourage my students to do so as well if they are able.

I totally misread that, I read

"I encourage my students to do well if they are able"

and I was like "really?! I thought you would tell all students that they could do well......"

haha, sorry.
Jello Biafra
15-12-2006, 04:05
I am involved in a labor union, and I used to be an anti-sweatshop activist; though I don't help them as much as I used to, I still intend to help that project in some way.
Equus
15-12-2006, 06:29
I read NSG and I see a lot of people jabber on about this and that.
About what is wrong with one thing or another and then slam someone else who does exactly what they are doing from a different side of the coin.

My question is...

What have you actually done to fix any of these things you piss and moan about?

What action have you taken beyond running your mouth to people who most likely already agree with you.

Donations of money and or time?

Grinding?

Where have you put your ass on the line for your convictions?

The title of the thread says it all--

What have you done?


Me personally, I am as guilty as I believe the rest of you to be.
The real actions I have ever taken were donating money annually to Sinn Fein(Done Legally through "FoSFUSA") and Grinding for them, in an unofficial capacity.

Pretty much all the other things I feel strongly about---I have been less then impressive.

I also do donate to my church and do go down and help pass out food at the shelter down town...but not as often as I should(for as much sh*t as I talk).

What have I done?

- Started (and continue to co-chair) an annual food drive that has become the second largest in the province (surpassed only by the CBC Radio drive, which encompasses the whole of BC, not just the city of Victoria). Sorry if I sound like I'm bragging, but it is the accomplishment of which I am most proud.

- Volunteer for Project Literacy.

- Volunteer for a political party.

- Donate by monthly donation to my political party and to the Red Cross.

- Make large donations annually to my political party, the Mustard Seed Food Bank, United Way, and the Red Cross (in addition to the monthly donations above).

No, I haven't travelled to a ravaged country to donate my time, but I firmly believe that I do my part. I figure if you want to make a better world, you had better pitch in.

Edit: and oh yes, I recycle and try to commute by bike as much as possible. I try to stay away from over-packaged or over-prepared everything, and try to buy organic as much as I can.

Oh, and I donate blood every 2 months.
The Beautiful Darkness
15-12-2006, 06:42
I don't think I've complained here about things that need to be done.

In my time I have:

Planted and cared for hundreds of trees

Been involved in Clean Up Australia and various similar projects

Assisted in the maintenence of an area of national park

Regularly visited an elderly couple (unrelated to me):p

Regularly visited patients in a hospital for the blind

Worked on both the Environmental and Amnesty International Commitiees at my High School.

Also, I was involved in Anglicare, a church run organisation that distributed food donations to those who need them.
Harlesburg
15-12-2006, 06:46
I don't think I've complained here about things that need to be done.

In my time I have:

Planted and cared for hundreds of trees

Been involved in Clean Up Australia and various similar projects

Assisted in the maintenence of an area of national park

Regularly visited an elderly couple (unrelated to me):p

Regularly visited patients in a hospital for the blind

Worked on both the Environmental and Amnesty International Commitiees at my High School.

Also, I was involved in Anglicare, a church run organisation that distributed food donations to those who need them.
That is mighty impressive.
Why the old folks though?
Kiryu-shi
15-12-2006, 06:47
I've put some time and effort into the group Free the Children (although not as much, by far, as I should have). I also faithfully click that link in my sig everyday (not the crack one, the do-good one). I've volunteered at a few different places (schools, soccer, library, soup-kitchen (only once:( )). I plan to do more if I ever get any money.
Delator
15-12-2006, 06:51
I try not to waste water, electricity or heat...and I recycle all plastic, paper, glass and aluminum.

I donated to the Red Cross after the Asian tsunamis and after Hurricane Katrina, and organized a donation drive at work.

I'm polite in public...in private, well...it depends on the situation. :D

I donate plasma on an infrequent basis. I take old stuff to the thrift-store instead of throwing it out.

I don't leech off of the government in any way. Uncle Sam gets my tax-dollars. I consider it "stay away" money.

Thats about all I can think of at the moment...
The Beautiful Darkness
15-12-2006, 06:55
That is mighty impressive.
Why the old folks though?

Thanks. They get lonely when they are old, often their own children don't visit them. :(
Harlesburg
15-12-2006, 06:57
Thanks. They get lonely when they are old, often their own children don't visit them. :(
So how do you know them?
Curious Inquiry
15-12-2006, 06:58
Thanks. They get lonely when they are old, often their own children don't visit them. :(

True. You know, this makes you even more beautiful.
The Beautiful Darkness
15-12-2006, 07:28
So how do you know them?

Through Anglicare.

True. You know, this makes you even more beautiful.

*Feels the need for a blushing smilie* Thank you, it's not much, but yeah... :)
UpwardThrust
15-12-2006, 07:51
Put in massive (for my schedule) amount of voulenteer time in at a local nursing home

Do pro bono security consulting for them on and off (sometimes they pay me but at a better rate then they would have to hire someone for)

I do on the side tutoring for Network Majors

I also voulenteer with feed my starving children down in the cities

I did a the last 4 summers working with habitat for humanity as well
Harlesburg
15-12-2006, 10:55
Through Anglicare.
-snippage-
Got stuck with that crow through highschool?

Me, i do nothing for no one and expect nothing in return, things never get done my way anyhow.
The Beautiful Darkness
15-12-2006, 10:58
Got stuck with that crow through highschool?

Me, i do nothing for no one and expect nothing in return, things never get done my way anyhow.

I was Anglican, you know. :p
Harlesburg
15-12-2006, 11:31
I was Anglican, you know. :p
You never told me you were Anglican, just that you went to an Anglican Highschool.
Why the change in beliefs?
The Beautiful Darkness
15-12-2006, 11:38
You never told me you were Anglican, just that you went to an Anglican Highschool.
Why the change in beliefs?

It wasn't a huge shift in belief. The Anglicans had a chior, which I was part of...
Kanabia
15-12-2006, 11:43
Where have you put your ass on the line for your convictions?


I refuse to comment on the grounds that I may incriminate myself. ;)
Harlesburg
15-12-2006, 12:02
It wasn't a huge shift in belief. The Anglicans had a chior, which I was part of...
Go Vatican, we've got Wine and Heaven.:)
Proggresica
15-12-2006, 12:06
Sometimes I vandalise desks in the library with ironic, political anecdotes.
The Beautiful Darkness
15-12-2006, 12:30
Go Vatican, we've got Wine and Heaven.:)

Anglicans have those things too, minus a Pope. ;)
Ifreann
15-12-2006, 12:36
I refuse to comment on the grounds that I may incriminate myself. ;)

>.>
<.<
Ditto.
Risottia
15-12-2006, 12:40
My question is...

What have you actually done to fix any of these things you piss and moan about?


I am an activist of my political party (since 1998), and now I'm also getting paid for my work for the party - I'm a sort of party officer.
I've also been candidate to several local administration elections (as candidate member of area and city councils). I'm considering candidating as mayor at the next elections (in 2011).
Ifreann
15-12-2006, 12:41
I am an activist of my political party (since 1998), and now I'm also getting paid for my work for the party - I'm a sort of party officer.
I've also been candidate to several local administration elections (as candidate member of area and city councils). I'm considering candidating as mayor at the next elections (in 2011).

We'll vote for you!
Skibereen
15-12-2006, 19:41
I refuse to comment on the grounds that I may incriminate myself. ;)

Given you are one of my favorite posters I believe you.
Risottia
15-12-2006, 20:07
We'll vote for you!

Thank you... are you an EU citizen? If you are, then just move to Milan within the next 4 years and you'll get (probabily) the chance to vote for me..., you know, EU citizens do vote for local elections of the european town where they officially live, even if they're outside their country.:cool: I'd love being voted by fellow europeans...:D Hooray for Europe!:D
Purple Android
15-12-2006, 20:11
I read NSG and I see a lot of people jabber on about this and that.
About what is wrong with one thing or another and then slam someone else who does exactly what they are doing from a different side of the coin.

My question is...

What have you actually done to fix any of these things you piss and moan about?


I became Prime Minister of the Netherlands for a short time :p