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After reading the soy crap, I had a little toddle round WND, and found Chuck Norris's column. Now, if he's found Christianity and wants to blabber on about it, and WND is willing to let him do so, then so be it, but in the midst of the seemingly customary seasonal ACLU bashing (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53317), he unleashed this little gem:
The ACLU will assure Muslim clerics and imams the right to pray on planes, fight for an atheist's rights to remove a cross, stand beside pro-abortionists, help illegal aliens cross our borders, and establish rights for the sexual deviant by forming the ACLU Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Project, but what is it doing for Christians and Christmas censorship?
"establish rights for the sexual deviant"?

What a fucking twat. Even those who disagree with ACLU, or think Christianity is under threat, or dislike the secularisation of the holidays, or agree with some of his other points, are surely willing to reject that kind of regressive twaddle?

After reading the soy crap, I had a little toddle round WND, and found Chuck Norris's column. Now, if he's found Christianity and wants to blabber on about it, and WND is willing to let him do so, then so be it, but in the midst of the seemingly customary seasonal ACLU bashing (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53317), he unleashed this little gem:

"establish rights for the sexual deviant"?

What a fucking twat. Even those who disagree with ACLU, or think Christianity is under threat, or dislike the secularisation of the holidays, or agree with some of his other points, are surely willing to reject that kind of regressive twaddle?

You're just finding out now that Chuck Norris is a born-again idiot?

This is old news. Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent are the twin pillars of reactionary **** entertainers.

Greenux Linux, come back onto IRC!

Chuck Norris Fact:

Daily, I'm surprised to see he hasn't choked to death on his own tongue.

Fucking idiot.

He's still fucking awesome.

Actually, this makes him more awesome.

He's still fucking awesome.

Actually, this makes him more awesome.

By being a hate-filled, ignorant bigot?

By being a hate-filled, ignorant bigot?

I think someone has a role model :p

By being a hate-filled, ignorant bigot?

No, by being right. What the fuck HAS ACLU done for Christians lately?

But surely Chuck is gay - I mean that moustache and everything!

No, by being right. What the fuck HAS ACLU done for Christians lately?

Have any Christian organisations applied for help from the ACLU? Because I don't think the ACLU just asks people if they want help. If a Christian organisation applied for help, I doubt they'd be refused somehow.

Have any Christian organisations applied for help from the ACLU? Because I don't think the ACLU just asks people if they want help. If a Christian organisation applied for help, I doubt they'd be refused somehow.

Alright, now maybe ACLU should back the fuck off and stop attacking Christians.

No, by being right. What the fuck HAS ACLU done for Christians lately?

Didnt they defend Fred Phelps right to protest? I think I saw a thread about that on NS a while back.

Didnt they defend Fred Phelps right to protest? I think I saw a thread about that on NS a while back.

So they won't defend real Christians, but they'll help that cultist psycho Phelps?

So they won't defend real Christians, but they'll help that cultist psycho Phelps?

Why do you assume they dont help christians, because you havent heard about it? And why isnt Fred Phelps a 'real' christian?

edit: and generally in america, christians dont need defending, as they're the majority.

Alright, now maybe ACLU should back the fuck off and stop attacking Christians.

And how exactly are they attacking Christians?

No, by being right. What the fuck HAS ACLU done for Christians lately?

Where are Christians being oppressed in the US? :rolleyes:

Oh, from the front page of the ACLU's website: http://www.aclu.org/religion/schools/27673prs20061212.html

OMFG!! The ACLU is protecting Christians right to express themselves! I believe you can pull your foot from your mouth and your head from your ass now.

http://aclu.org/religion/discrim/25518prs20060419.html Another one.
http://aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/22354prs20051206.html Helping a Catholic this time.
http://aclu.org/religion/frb/16347prs20040811.html
http://aclu.org/religion/discrim/16230prs20040603.html

Now, as for TPF, I think we can all agree, he's sadly deluded on the topic.

Alright, now maybe ACLU should back the fuck off and stop attacking Christians.

Nice language, Christian :rolleyes:

Where are Christians being oppressed in the US? :rolleyes:

Oh, from the front page of the ACLU's website: http://www.aclu.org/religion/schools/27673prs20061212.html

OMFG!! The ACLU is protecting Christians right to express themselves! I believe you can pull your foot from your mouth and your head from your ass now.

BUT THE ACLU AREN'T HELPING CHRISTIANS! DESPITE THEM...HELPING CHRISTIANS!

Nice language, Christian :rolleyes:

You assume that I'm Christian.

You assume that I'm Christian.

You prove you're an ass :)

And why isnt Fred Phelps a 'real' christian?

If Fred Phelps is a real Christian, Bin Laden is a real muslim.

edit: and generally in america, christians dont need defending, as they're the majority.

Yes, they're the majority, which means they need to be OPPRESSED :rolleyes:

You assume that I'm Christian.

Will you concede the point that the ACLU are in fact helping Christians, and not attacking them as you so spuriously claimed?

Where are Christians being oppressed in the US? :rolleyes:.

From Chuck:

Same ol' ACLU song and dance

The ACLU has been true to form this December in opposing any and all Christian practices and symbols in public arenas and elsewhere.

So far this season it has already muscled the city council in Berkley, Mich. to move a Christmas nativity off public property.

The ACLU also sued the Wilson County School System outside of Nashville, Tenn., because its Christmas program included ''Christian themes and songs'' – what the ACLU calls ''unconstitutional and illegal'' acts through which its plaintiffs have ''suffered irreparable damage.''

Alongside its crusade to suppress Christmas, the ACLU of Tennessee also found time to write Cumberland County Mayor Brock Hill to assure the removal from the courthouse sidewalk of a wooden carved statue depicting Moses holding the Ten Commandments.

Just this past week, the ACLU opposed the Winston-Salem City Council's practice of opening its meetings with a prayer referencing Jesus or Christ.

Thankfully, along with the majority of veterans and patriots, I was very pleased to read of the ruling against the ACLU's mission to bring down the cross at the Mount Soledad Veterans Memorial near San Diego.

Will you concede the point that the ACLU are in fact helping Christians, and not attacking them as you so spuriously claimed?

I'll concede that while they help them occasionally, attacking them is still their favourite pastime.

I'll concede that while they help them occasionally, attacking them is still their favourite pastime.
Please provide one concrete example of the ACLU "attacking" Christians. And remember, holding Christians to the same laws as all other citizens does not count as an "attack."

If Fred Phelps is a real Christian, Bin Laden is a real muslim.
He is a real muslim though. A pretty terrible one, but a real one nonetheless.



Yes, they're the majority, which means they need to be OPPRESSED :rolleyes:

Or they're the majority so they can help themselves........

I'll concede that while they help them occasionally, attacking them is still their favourite pastime.

Yes, it would appear that Christians are suffering so badly from ACLU persecution...

You prove you're an ass :)

And I bet the ACLU will defend his right to just keep on being one

From Chuck:

Same ol' ACLU song and dance

The ACLU has been true to form this December in opposing any and all Christian practices and symbols in public arenas and elsewhere.

So far this season it has already muscled the city council in Berkley, Mich. to move a Christmas nativity off public property.

The ACLU also sued the Wilson County School System outside of Nashville, Tenn., because its Christmas program included ''Christian themes and songs'' – what the ACLU calls ''unconstitutional and illegal'' acts through which its plaintiffs have ''suffered irreparable damage.''

Alongside its crusade to suppress Christmas, the ACLU of Tennessee also found time to write Cumberland County Mayor Brock Hill to assure the removal from the courthouse sidewalk of a wooden carved statue depicting Moses holding the Ten Commandments.

Just this past week, the ACLU opposed the Winston-Salem City Council's practice of opening its meetings with a prayer referencing Jesus or Christ.

Thankfully, along with the majority of veterans and patriots, I was very pleased to read of the ruling against the ACLU's mission to bring down the cross at the Mount Soledad Veterans Memorial near San Diego.

Assuming what your saying is true, I would consider this "attacking Christians".

Please provide one concrete example of the ACLU "attacking" Christians. And remember, holding Christians to the same laws as all other citizens does not count as an "attack."

Hey you pinko, not letting the federal government fund religious indoctrination and not making infidels pray to Jesus Christ is attacking Christians. First they take away our right to make everyone worship our God, then they send us off to death camps. God needs federal funding to save the heathen soul.

Assuming what your saying is true, I would consider this "attacking Christians".
How so?

Erecting Christian monuments on public property with public funds is unconstitutional.

Having a public school endorse or promote religious beliefs is unconstitutional.

Having government ceremonies involve worship of a particular faith is unconstitutional.

I don't know if all those examples were accurate, of course, but if they are then it sounds like the ACLU is simply expecting Christians to (gasp!) obey the law. I don't see how that counts as "attacking" them.

From Chuck:

So far this season it has already muscled the city council in Berkley, Mich. to move a Christmas nativity off public property.

Because it's religion on public property.

The ACLU also sued the Wilson County School System outside of Nashville, Tenn., because its Christmas program included ''Christian themes and songs'' – what the ACLU calls ''unconstitutional and illegal'' acts through which its plaintiffs have ''suffered irreparable damage.''

Technically, yeah, it's unconstitutional for a government body such as a public school to openly subscribe to a particular religion.

Alongside its crusade to suppress Christmas, the ACLU of Tennessee also found time to write Cumberland County Mayor Brock Hill to assure the removal from the courthouse sidewalk of a wooden carved statue depicting Moses holding the Ten Commandments.

Because it's religious and it belongs nowhere on government property - not just that, but the Ten Commandments have almost nothing to do with the law. Don't even think about arguing this - it's been tried, it's failed.

Just this past week, the ACLU opposed the Winston-Salem City Council's practice of opening its meetings with a prayer referencing Jesus or Christ.

Because they're a governmental body that shouldn't express bias towards any particular religious group.

Thankfully, along with the majority of veterans and patriots, I was very pleased to read of the ruling against the ACLU's mission to bring down the cross at the Mount Soledad Veterans Memorial near San Diego.

Even though I'm sure a good many of those veterans aren't Christians. Right, that's being fair..

I'll concede that while they help them occasionally, attacking them is still their favourite pastime.

Uhuh... I hate to interrupt your Kool-aid imbibement, but... You know, you might offer a real example of an actual attack on christians? It's one thing to say "Hey, you need to follow the same laws as anyone else. You don't get special privaleges when it comes to rights."

It's a whole different thing to actually attack them.

You're just drinking in O'Rielly et al.'s nonsense, though, aren't you?

Uhuh... I hate to interrupt your Kool-aid imbibement, but... You know, you might offer a real example of an actual attack on christians? It's one thing to say "Hey, you need to follow the same laws as anyone else. You don't get special privaleges when it comes to rights."

It's a whole different thing to actually attack them.

You're just drinking in O'Rielly et al.'s nonsense, though, aren't you?

I think it's more likely he's just a troll that's just learning how to troll it up. He's not very good at it and just comes off as kinda silly.

Hey you pinko, not letting the federal government fund religious indoctrination and not making infidels pray to Jesus Christ is attacking Christians. First they take away our right to make everyone worship our God, then they send us off to death camps. God needs federal funding to save the heathen soul.
Don't forget, it'll be gay death camps. Never forget that the evil liberals are out to sodomize you and eat your children.

Uhuh... I hate to interrupt your Kool-aid imbibement, but... You know, you might offer a real example of an actual attack on christians? It's one thing to say "Hey, you need to follow the same laws as anyone else. You don't get special privaleges when it comes to rights."
It's sad that we actually have to TELL some Christians that yes, the law applies to you, too. It's sad that we actually have to remind people that believing in Jeebus doesn't mean you get to break the law whenever you feel like it. It's sad that some Christians believe they are being "oppressed" when they are expected to obey the same rules as everybody else.

Somehow, I doubt that their God would be impressed with their immature, selfish, crude behavior.

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All that proves is that your constitution is fucking stupid, and you've never read the Ten Commandments.

Wow, your country sucks quite a bit, though. If our govt. pulled stupid shit like that, we just remind them of what we can do. *cough*Cronulla*cough*

Don't forget, it'll be gay death camps. Never forget that the evil liberals are out to sodomize you and eat your children.

Of course. Gone are the days when a man can die respectfully - malnourished, beaten, tortured, with a broken spirit, in a furnace - now he simply gets raped up the ass until he bleeds to death.

Don't forget, it'll be gay death camps. Never forget that the evil liberals are out to sodomize you and eat your children.

And then convert them to Islamo-Fascism. Gay Islamo-Fascism.

How so?

Erecting Christian monuments on public property with public funds is unconstitutional.

Having a public school endorse or promote religious beliefs is unconstitutional.

Having government ceremonies involve worship of a particular faith is unconstitutional.

I don't know if all those examples were accurate, of course, but if they are then it sounds like the ACLU is simply expecting Christians to (gasp!) obey the law. I don't see how that counts as "attacking" them.


*Remembers how backwards the USA is*

All that proves is that your constitution is fucking stupid, and you've never read the Ten Commandments.

Aha...

...what?

It's sad that we actually have to TELL some Christians that yes, the law applies to you, too. It's sad that we actually have to remind people that believing in Jeebus doesn't mean you get to break the law whenever you feel like it. It's sad that some Christians believe they are being "oppressed" when they are expected to obey the same rules as everybody else.

Somehow, I doubt that their God would be impressed with their immature, selfish, crude behavior.

Be assured that he (if he exists), isn't. After all, they are giving unto Cesar that which is God's, which is the height of arrogant blaspheme.

*Remembers how backwards the USA is*
Yeah, we're a strange and backward people, what with our nutty notion that Christians are capable of behaving like grownups and following the rules just like everybody else. Probably best that you not live in such a primitive culture as ours. Maybe you could find a nice, civilized theocracy to dwell in.

Oooh, or maybe you could build a time machine and travel back to the age when Christianity was the supreme law of the land! I believe it is commonly known as "The Dark Ages."

*Remembers how backwards the USA is*

They are pretty backwards.

All that proves is that your constitution is fucking stupid, and you've never read the Ten Commandments.

What is fucking stupid about not allowing one group the ability to force others to deal with its religion while they are on federal land? The reason we do it is because it is unfair to people who have to be on federal land (mostly, we don't go there because we want to). You do not have the right to evangelize using government funds. If you, as a private citizen, outside of any federal role, want to use your first ammendment rights to evangelize on Public land without any use of government resources to do so, you are well within your rights.

And the 10 commandments are most certainly a religious document, or did you miss the part that said "I am the lord, thy God"?

Yeah, we're a strange and backward people, what with our nutty notion that Christians are capable of behaving like grownups and following the rules just like everybody else. Probably best that you not live in such a primitive culture as ours. Maybe you could find a nice, civilized theocracy to dwell in.

It's more to do with the fact that you denied, for example, a school that is 100% Christian the right to practise their faith. Who the hell is that hurting?

All that proves is that your constitution is fucking stupid, and you've never read the Ten Commandments.

Wow, your country sucks quite a bit, though. If our govt. pulled stupid shit like that, we just remind them of what we can do. *cough*Cronulla*cough*
Australia(I think) gives Christians special rights and privledges?
*Remembers how backwards the USA is*

Yes, what kind of backwards country expect all it's citizens to obey the same laws. Ridiculous, rich white christians are obviously above the law.

:rolleyes: ^2

What is fucking stupid about not allowing one group the ability to force others to deal with its religion while they are on federal land? The reason we do it is because it is unfair to people who have to be on federal land (mostly, we don't go there because we want to). You do not have the right to evangelize using government funds. If you, as a private citizen, outside of any federal role, want to use your first ammendment rights to evangelize on Public land without any use of government resources to do so, you are well within your rights.

Even public lands which are entirely occupied by Christians?

And the 10 commandments are most certainly a religious document, or did you miss the part that said "I am the lord, thy God"?

Did you miss the parts that said "Do not steal" and "Do not murder"?

It's more to do with the fact that you denied, for example, a school that is 100% Christian the right to practise their faith. Who the hell is that hurting?

It has nothing to do with practicing their faith and everything to do with forcing it on other people.

Australia(I think) gives Christians special rights and privledges?

No, we employ common sense. Hey, get this; our malls are allowed to use the word CHRISTMAS.

Yeah, we're a strange and backward people, what with our nutty notion that Christians are capable of behaving like grownups and following the rules just like everybody else. Probably best that you not live in such a primitive culture as ours. Maybe you could find a nice, civilized theocracy to dwell in.

Oooh, or maybe you could build a time machine and travel back to the age when Christianity was the supreme law of the land! I believe it is commonly known as "The Dark Ages."

Well, the USA *is* backwards when it comes to religous tolerance when compared to, say, Finland. But they are forward when it comes to places such as Iran.

But don't worry, the USA is forward in at least one category over where ever Frozopia is from. I'm betting military and technology, so it's all good.

It's more to do with the fact that you denied, for example, a school that is 100% Christian the right to practise their faith. Who the hell is that hurting?

They do have a right to practice their faith. It just can't be sponsored or given officiality by the government in any way.

So they won't defend real Christians, but they'll help that cultist psycho Phelps?

Well, as a fellow Christian, what exactly is being attacked in America right now? Is someone in your home, holding a gun to your head, and telling you not to pray? I'm not feeling oppressed, but if you've got a reason I should, please let me know.

All that proves is that your constitution is fucking stupid, and you've never read the Ten Commandments.

Fucking stupid as it may be, it's the fucking law. Do NOT get pissed off at the ACLU for enforcing the fucking law.

Also, let's count the number of commandments that have laws related to them:

1. Don't worship any other gods: Nope. In fact, the opposite - the law prohibits the worshipping of any particular god by the government.

2. Do not make any idols. Nope. I don't see any anti-blasphemy laws in place in VA. In fact, the law is enforced to ensure that people CAN blaspheme, in the name of free speech and expression.

3. Do not misuse the name of god. (use the lord's name in vain) Strike three.

4. Keep the Sabbath holy. I don't see any sort of anti-"Black Sabbath" laws being passed, or stoning those that work on the sabbath - yeah, this is bunk as well.

5. Honor your mother and father. Negative! Teenagers all across the country tell their parents to fuck off on a minutely basis, and the law can't do jack about it.

6. Do not murder. This is the first one! Congrats, you finally hit the nail on the head of being a decent person with number six.

7. Do not commit adultery. Not sure adultery is against the law, though it could be used in the courtroom to prosecute a murdering spouse who caught their husband or wife. Strike... six?

8. Do not steal. [b]Misdemeanor.

9. Do not lie. Only applicable when speaking in court, under oath. Any other time in personal or social situations, you can lie your ass off and get away with it.

10. Do not covet. [b]Jesus Christ - this country LIVES and THRIVES off of people coveting what others have! "Bob has a new Mercedes. Don't you want to be cool like Bob? His penis is so large, look at it - take this pill to be like Bob!"

I told you not to try, but you fucking had to do it. You had to push it, and I had to make you look stupid.

It's more to do with the fact that you denied, for example, a school that is 100% Christian the right to practise their faith. Who the hell is that hurting?
You're right, it doesn't hurt anybody to require that public schools be secular. I'm glad you acknowledge that.

Honestly, are you really going to try to argue that Christians are so stupid, or so greedy, that they think they DESERVE to use taxpayer money to promote their beliefs? I may be an evil secularist, but even I don't have that kind of low opinion of Christians. I think most Christians are quite able to understand that they aren't entitled to take other people's money whenever they want it, what with there being a commandment against stealing and all.

It has nothing to do with practicing their faith and everything to do with forcing it on other people.

Forcing it on who?

Even public lands which are entirely occupied by Christians?

There is no such place. You are creating a false situation to try and weasel out. All public land is owned by all of us. Moreover, public land may, at any time, be occupied by any person.

Did you miss the parts that said "Do not steal" and "Do not murder"?

And? Just because it has moral rules in it doesn't make it not religious.

All I ever hear is how white christians are being horribly persecuted.

Yet you have all the jobs, money, power. You have a white christian president in the white house, christians wield so much power that creationism is given some sort of status, imagine if a similarily wacky muslim idea that ran in conflict with what we scientifically know to be true was given equal prominence? Imagine if Glenn Beck asked a christian politician if he was working for the KKK?

Forcing it on who?

Anyone who comes to that school who is not Christian. You see, if you want to pray to God every morning at school, you are free to. The nice thing is, because of the First Ammendment, I don't have to.

I told you not to try, but you fucking had to do it. You had to push it, and I had to make you look stupid.

So you've proved that the Ten Commandments are laws; outdated laws, but laws none the less. NEXT.

No, we employ common sense. Hey, get this; our malls are allowed to use the word CHRISTMAS.

So are ours. Many of them choose not to. That's not the law.

Your laws are wrong. Treat everyone equally: fine. Respect Minority's, but support majorities because these are the large component of your nation

"Erecting Christian monuments on public property with public funds is unconstitutional"

Why?

"Having a public school endorse or promote religious beliefs is unconstitutional."

Again why? Seeing as most of your country is christian, why would you forbid publics schools from endorsing these beliefs?

There is no such place. You are creating a false situation to try and weasel out.

Yeah, Winston-Salem City Council doesn't exist :rolleyes:

So are ours. Many of them choose not to. That's not the law.

Because they know that if they do, some idiot's going to get ACLU to bust some constitution shit on them.

You know what? That's the problem with you Yanks. That fucking constitution. Every five minutes, constitution, constitution, constitution. In all my time living in Australia, I've never even heard our constitution mentioned. I'm not sure we even have one.

Yeah, Winston-Salem City Council doesn't exist :rolleyes:

Reply to the whole concept please. Taking an argument in parts shows a weak understanding of it. You are, essentially, claiming that no members of Winston-Salem city are non-Christian. You see, the W-S City Council meets in the City Council chambers, which are open for most of every meeting (labor negotiations and some other stuff are done behind closed doors in most city governments). That means that they are, A) Representing the government to the people and B) leaving public land open to everyone.

Because they know that if they do, some idiot's going to get ACLU to bust some constitution shit on them.

You know what? That's the problem with you Yanks. That fucking constitution. Every five minutes, constitution, constitution, constitution. In all my time living in Australia, I've never even heard our constitution mentioned. I'm not sure we even have one.

You're still posting? *yawn*
I guess it keeps you off the streets, anyway :p

Your laws are wrong. Treat everyone equally: fine. Respect Minority's, but support majorities because these are the large component of your nation

"Erecting Christian monuments on public property with public funds is unconstitutional"

Equal access.


"Having a public school endorse or promote religious beliefs is unconstitutional."

Again why? Seeing as most of your country is christian, why would you forbid publics schools from endorsing these beliefs?

Because some of our country is not. It would be an attack on minority students to give Christians the right to evangelize to a captive audience.

Again why? Seeing as most of your country is christian, why would you forbid publics schools from endorsing these beliefs?

Because you are essentially saying to people who choose not to be christian that their views are odd and less valid.

Because you are essentially saying to people who choose not to be christian that their views are odd and less valid.

No your saying this is what most of our country worships. Make your own decisions.

Because some of our country is not. It would be an attack on minority students to give Christians the right to evangelize to a captive audience.

So? They should grow up. My school did that Catholic shit every day, half of us weren't even Christian. My mate Steven is Buddhist, I'm agnostic.

Yeah, Winston-Salem City Council doesn't exist :rolleyes:
Sure it does. But it is not, as you claimed, "public lands which are entirely occupied by Christians."

Indeed, the ACLU is filing suit on behalf of a family who live in the town and who feel that their religious freedoms were being violated by the school's practices. Clearly somebody felt they were being hurt.

That would be "bearing false witness" on your part. For the record.

So you've proved that the Ten Commandments are laws; outdated laws, but laws none the less. NEXT.
Sharia laws are laws too, what's your point?
Your laws are wrong.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Treat everyone equally: fine. Respect Minority's, but support majorities because these are the large component of your nation
Christians can support themselves, they don't need the government fellating them for going to church.

"Erecting Christian monuments on public property with public funds is unconstitutional"

Why?
Government sponsoring of one religion=government discrimination against the others

"Having a public school endorse or promote religious beliefs is unconstitutional."

Again why? Seeing as most of your country is christian, why would you forbid publics schools from endorsing these beliefs?
See above.
Because they know that if they do, some idiot's going to get ACLU to bust some constitution shit on them.

You know what? That's the problem with you Yanks. That fucking constitution. Every five minutes, constitution, constitution, constitution. In all my time living in Australia, I've never even heard our constitution mentioned. I'm not sure we even have one.

Yes, how retarded of Americans to be aware of their rights under the law. You are soooo much better than them.

No your saying this is what most of our country worships. Make your own decisions.

I think people are aware that Christianity is the largest religion.

And let's expand on this: any specific denomination?

The problem is once you're a celebrity, if you open your mouth, it gets published somewhere.

As if becoming a celebrity is somehow a certification that you're qualified to pontificate on how the world should be run.

I lump this in the same category as the crap that spews from Barbara Streisand.

No difference at all - some famous person thinking that they know what they're talking about.

They are all to be ignored. If he was making some commentary on how to stay in good physical shape into your old age - fine. Otherwise, he should STFU.

I think people are aware that Christianity is the largest religion.

And let's expand on this: any specific denomination?

Most Americans are a sort of Protestant.

Yes, how retarded of Americans to be aware of their rights under the law. You are soooo much better than them.

Americans use that stupid document to sue when they trip over their own feet.

No, by being right. What the fuck HAS ACLU done for Christians lately?

In case you're completely stupid you might want to know that the ACLU fights for those who have their rights violated. When Christians are actually oppressed the ACLU will be there.

They follow the american ideal of Liberty, regardless of how stupid you are.

Most Americans are a sort of Protestant.
Most Americans are white, too. Didn't make it legal for them to take away the rights of black Americans.

Most Americans are female. That doesn't mean they are empowered to violate the rights of male Americans.

That's the beauty of the American system of law: "majority rules" doesn't work when it comes to our fundamental liberties. That's how our Founders designed things.

According to ABC -

Weekly Church Attendance
All Men 32 percent
All Women 44 percent

Yeah, a massively christian country!

Americans use that stupid document to sue when they trip over their own feet.

Well I'll agree that America is seeming very sue happy these days. But that's beside the point.

Americans use that stupid document to sue when they trip over their own feet.

While lawsuits have gotten out of hand in the past, it's good that as a nation we're aware of our rights. Even if half of the idiots here are screaming about things that aren't in it, or aren't the legal interpretation. We're not exactly common sense nation, but we try!

Americans use that stupid document to sue when they trip over their own feet.
Kind of like how Christians use the Bible to invoke hellfire when they trip over theirs?

Hey, at least Thomas Jefferson actually existed, so we're a step ahead by my count. :D

According to ABC -

Weekly Church Attendance
All Men 32 percent
All Women 44 percent

Yeah, a massively christian country!

That type of thing is hard to get accurate figures of. Who was their population pool? Where did they interview? Who did they interview? Did they call people?

Statistics are funny things, just because the numbers are there doesn't make them true.

Not that I think we're a pious nation by any means, I'm just saying.

So? They should grow up. My school did that Catholic shit every day, half of us weren't even Christian. My mate Steven is Buddhist, I'm agnostic.

You seem to be missing the point, doing that is illegal in the US, the ACLU just wants the law to be followed.

You seem to be missing the point, doing that is illegal in the US, the ACLU just wants the law to be followed.

Which implies that your law is stupid.

You seem to be missing the point, doing that is illegal in the US, the ACLU just wants the law to be followed.

It's not illegal in a Catholic private school because the parents are paying money for their kids to go there.

Most Americans are white, too. Didn't make it legal for them to take away the rights of black Americans.

Most Americans are female. That doesn't mean they are empowered to violate the rights of male Americans.

That's the beauty of the American system of law: "majority rules" doesn't work when it comes to our fundamental liberties. That's how our Founders designed things.

Actually in more advanced countries there are more males than females due to the higher birth rate of men then women. So I read. And completely unrelated to what this topic is as it seems to be going nowhere fast.

Kind of like how Christians use the Bible to invoke hellfire when they trip over theirs?

Hey, at least Thomas Jefferson actually existed, so we're a step ahead by my count. :D

Invoke hellfire?! Awesome, I wanna be Christian again!

Trying to get back on topic.

The problem is once you're a celebrity, if you open your mouth, it gets published somewhere.

As if becoming a celebrity is somehow a certification that you're qualified to pontificate on how the world should be run.

I lump this in the same category as the crap that spews from Barbara Streisand.

No difference at all - some famous person thinking that they know what they're talking about.

They are all to be ignored. If he was making some commentary on how to stay in good physical shape into your old age - fine. Otherwise, he should STFU.

Actually in more advanced countries there are more males that females due to the increased birth rate of men then women. So I read. And completely unrelated to what this topic is as it seems to be going nowhere fast.

Generally, it should be 50/50. What throws out the balance in favour of women is war and young men being idiots on the road.

I blame too much sugar and tartrazine for this particular little debate.

Actually in more advanced countries there are more males that females due to the increased birth rate of men then women. So I read. And completely unrelated to what this topic is as it seems to be going nowhere fast.

Not really, you seem to think that Christians should get special privledges for being in the majority. Bottle is highlighting that other majorities(whites, women) don't get special privledges, so Christians aren't going to either. Simple really.

Invoke hellfire?! Awesome, I wanna be Christian again!

Don't bother, it costs like 2,000 mana and you can only learn it from Daytime Television Preachers.

Generally, it should be 50/50. What throws out the balance in favour of women is war and young men being idiots on the road.

You fail at biology.

There are on the order of 120 male embryos for every 100 female. Though by the time of birth it's down to 105/100. Male sperm move faster, less DNA material to cart around.

Not really, you seem to think that Christians should get special privledges for being in the majority. Bottle is highlighting that other majorities(whites, women) don't get special privledges, so Christians aren't going to either. Simple really.

I wasnt making a point. I was just saying your more likely to have a boy than a girl. By 5% so I read.

And of course supporting the majority means using common sense at the same time. So that everyone is happy. I would not be offended if I lived in an islamic country and they closed down the office i owned for prayers as regularly as they do.

Don't bother, it costs like 2,000 mana and you can only learn it from Daytime Television Preachers.

Awwww. Well I guess I'll stick with Harry Potter books and learn magic that way.

Actually in more advanced countries there are more males that females due to the higher birth rate of men then women. So I read. And completely unrelated to what this topic is as it seems to be going nowhere fast.
Oooh, a side track!

First of all, I'm sure you are aware that "birth rate" and "number of men vs. women" are not the same thing, right? Given that, you know, a baby is neither a man nor a woman, and nobody is giving birth to fully grown adults.

So while there are roughly 1.05 males born for each female born in the US, the actual population break down shows that the majority of living persons in the US are female. Males have higher infant mortality rates and lower life expectancies, after all, so this isn't really surprising.

And the funny thing is, in a way this isn't even a real tangent. It is a glowing example of how some people on this thread don't bother to do their homework before making irrelevant, misleading, or sloppy claims that they hope will prop up the misconceptions they are clinging to.

Awwww. Well I guess I'll stick with Harry Potter books and learn magic that way.

Oh man! If you do that you'll go to Hell! The God-box said so!

I wasnt making a point. I was just saying your more likely to have a boy than a girl. By 5% so I read.

And of course supporting the majority means using common sense at the same time. So that everyone is happy. I would not be offended if I lived in an islamic country and they closed down the office i owned for prayers as regularly as they do.

I still don't see why thre majority needs supporting. Considering they're the majority they can probably take care of themselves.

Which implies that your law is stupid.

My law? I went to a publicly funded Catholic school, in Canada...

That said, I support it. It's not the job of schools to teach about silly make-believe, religion class time could be much better spent on useful topics. It's not the job of government to go about showing how much they support one faith or another, especially when the nation's constitution prohibits them from it.

Why's it make sense to prohibit the government and church from getting in bed? Because soon after you wind-up with leaders governing 'for god'. Man should enforce man's law. God can enforce her law herself, if she likes.

It's not illegal in a Catholic private school because the parents are paying money for their kids to go there.

It's not, in a privately funded school, however a publicly funded school in the US it would be...

Chuck Norris is just 80s kitsch. Chuck Zito is the bad ass for the new millennium.

http://i16.tinypic.com/2qlbx4w.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/2e69cn9.gif

See? Not only did he knock out Van Damme, but he's also not afraid to stand up to Denise Richards.

I still don't see why thre majority needs supporting. Considering they're the majority they can probably take care of themselves.

Well, you do get oppressed majorities, I suppose.

So while there are roughly 1.05 males born for each female born in the US, the actual population break down shows that the majority of living persons in the US are female. Males have higher infant mortality rates and lower life expectancies, after all, so this isn't really surprising.


I love that I'm not the only one who knew that.

It's not, in a privately funded school, however a publicly funded school in the US it would be...

Yep.

I love that I'm not the only one who knew that.
My fellow Americans often have a lot of trouble understanding the difference between various stages of human life, so I make it a point to read up on such things. :D

Oooh, a side track!

First of all, I'm sure you are aware that "birth rate" and "number of men vs. women" are not the same thing, right? Given that, you know, a baby is neither a man nor a woman, and nobody is giving birth to fully grown adults.

So while there are roughly 1.05 males born for each female born in the US, the actual population break down shows that the majority of living persons in the US are female. Males have higher infant mortality rates and lower life expectancies, after all, so this isn't really surprising.

And the funny thing is, in a way this isn't even a real tangent. It is a glowing example of how some people on this thread don't bother to do their homework before making irrelevant, misleading, or sloppy claims that they hope will prop up the misconceptions they are clinging to.

Yep but although woman live longer, this is countermanded by the fact modern medicine has actually changed this. And ofc Ive forgotten how. And your wrong, it is a tangent, it in no way supports my argument.

My fellow Americans often have a lot of trouble understanding the difference between various stages of human life, so I make it a point to read up on such things. :D

You don't have to know the specifics of biology to get pregnant...

You don't have to know the specifics of biology to get pregnant...

More's the pity.

You don't have to know the specifics of biology to get pregnant...

Wow, what does this have to do with the thread?

Yep but although woman live longer, this is countermanded by the fact modern medicine has actually changed this. And ofc Ive forgotten how. And your wrong, it is a tangent, it in no way supports my argument.

On the contrary, it makes you look somewhat foolish.

Wow, what does this have to do with the thread?

Wow, maybe it has a lot to do with Bottle's post - which also has nothing to do with the thread.

You fail at biology.

There are on the order of 120 male embryos for every 100 female. Though by the time of birth it's down to 105/100. Male sperm move faster, less DNA material to cart around.

So, 52/48? Wow, you sure put me in my place :rolleyes:

You don't have to know the specifics of biology to get pregnant...

you'd be surprised...

how many times are we seen a person try and put a square peg in a round hole?
anyone?

Wow, maybe it has a lot to do with Bottle's post - which also has nothing to do with the thread.

Eh...ooops. I feel rather stupid now. And not for the first time today :(

Infact I was getting it mixed up. Poorer nations have a higher male ratio. Because more of them die before 65, the average life length difference between males and females counts for less.

So much siggable stuff in here......

*head explodes*

So, 52/48? Wow, you sure put me in my place :rolleyes:

As long as you understand that.

you'd be surprised...

how many times are we seen a person try and put a square peg in a round hole?
anyone?

Are you saying that gay men are merely confused? :eek:

Eh...ooops. I feel rather stupid now. And not for the first time today :(

It's ok - I usually figure people don't read posts.

So you've proved that the Ten Commandments are laws; outdated laws, but laws none the less. NEXT.

So because two laws have something in common with two commandments, even though something like four commandments are not only not laws, but have laws protecting the rights of people to break those commandments, the ten commandments are all automatically part of the judicial system?

You're acting stupid. I hope you're acting.

So because two laws have something in common with two commandments, even though something like four commandments are not only not laws, but have laws protecting the rights of people to break those commandments, the ten commandments are all automatically part of the judicial system?

You're acting stupid. I hope you're acting.

So symbolism means nothing to you? You're a shallow, shallow person.

The ACLU has been true to form this December in opposing any and all Christian practices and symbols in public arenas and elsewhere.

So far this season it has already muscled the city council in Berkley, Mich. to move a Christmas nativity off public property.

Not quite:
http://www.afamichigan.org/2005/12/23/berkley-modifies-nativityaclu-drops-lawsuit-threat/

The ACLU also sued the Wilson County School System outside of Nashville, Tenn., because its Christmas program included ''Christian themes and songs'' – what the ACLU calls ''unconstitutional and illegal'' acts through which its plaintiffs have ''suffered irreparable damage.''

In the lawsuit, the ACLU of Tennessee argues that the pattern and practice of promoting and endorsing religious activities by the Wilson County public school system is unconstitutional. In addition to “Praying Parents” and “Prayer at the Flag Pole,” the Wilson County school system promotes a range of religious activities, including a National Day of Prayer event and teacher-led classroom prayers, according to the lawsuit.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/schools/26946prs20060927.html

Alongside its crusade to suppress Christmas, the ACLU of Tennessee also found time to write Cumberland County Mayor Brock Hill to assure the removal from the courthouse sidewalk of a wooden carved statue depicting Moses holding the Ten Commandments.


Here's the letter:
The letter, dated Nov. 13, reads: "Dear Mayor Hill, American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN) recently learned that a statue of Moses holding the Ten Commandments has been placed on the sidewalk directly in front of the Cumberland County Courthouse. While it is our understanding that the county neither erected the statue nor granted permission for the statue to remain, it has not been removed. The decision to allow the statue to remain indicates the creation of a public forum for free expression. We write requesting written confirmation that this display area has in fact been deemed an open public forum, as required by law ... ACLU-TN embraces the unique American right to freedom of speech and expression ... By writing today, ACLU-TN simply requests written confirmation that an open forum has indeed been created such that all persons may express their religious, political, commercial and civic views freely in this public setting."
Here's my source.
http://www.crossville-chronicle.com/homepage/local_story_338194029.html


Just this past week, the ACLU opposed the Winston-Salem City Council's practice of opening its meetings with a prayer referencing Jesus or Christ

If, by opposing, you mean they sent a letter describing why it is unconstitutional, and that has been supported by City Attorney Ron Seeber, then you are correct.

Here: http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=1704660&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Yep but although woman live longer, this is countermanded by the fact modern medicine has actually changed this.

Changed what? The fact that women have longer life expectancies than men in countries with the most advanced medical technologies available? Or changed the fact that the birth rate does not equate to the population demographics as a whole?

Either way, you're wrong. I'm just interested in knowing specifically what way you are wrong.


And your wrong, it is a tangent, it in no way supports my argument.
It's not a tangent, as I already clarified, but you're right that it doesn't support your argument. Indeed, facts directly conflict with your argument in this case.

So because two laws have something in common with two commandments, even though something like four commandments are not only not laws, but have laws protecting the rights of people to break those commandments, the ten commandments are all automatically part of the judicial system?
And, of course, the commandments against murder at theft MUST be the source for our own laws on the subject, because no nation has ever had laws against murder or theft unless it was founded by Christians. Christianity is the only possible source for a moral code in which murder and theft would be prohibited.

Maybe Chuck Norris will choke on a pretzel and not have a significant other walk in on him before it's "too late".

I love the ACLU. They uphold the Constitution, they keep our rights ours, and not the government's, and they make people like The Potato Factory go on an adrenaline-infused posting jaunt that shows everybody just how dim-witted and ill-prepared they really are.

So symbolism means nothing to you? You're a shallow, shallow person.

Show me symbolism. Go through the commandments, as I did, and show me where the symbolism for "Keeping the sabbath holy" and not saying god's name in vain is.

And, of course, the commandments against murder at theft MUST be the source for our own laws on the subject, because no nation has ever had laws against murder or theft unless it was founded by Christians. Christianity is the only possible source for a moral code in which murder and theft would be prohibited.

Of course. Christians were the first people in the world to ever think "Hey you shouldn't kill people.".

And, of course, the commandments against murder at theft MUST be the source for our own laws on the subject, because no nation has ever had laws against murder or theft unless it was founded by Christians. Christianity is the only possible source for a moral code in which murder and theft would be prohibited.

Yep, because we all know that Jesus asked his pop for a time machine, went back about six hundred years, and planted a placeholder in a place called Babylon.

Thanks, Jesus!

Show me symbolism. Go through the commandments, as I did, and show me where the symbolism for "Keeping the sabbath holy" and not saying god's name in vain is.



Of course. Christians were the first people in the world to ever think "Hey you shouldn't kill people.".

Yep, because we all know that Jesus asked his pop for a time machine, went back about six hundred years, and planted a placeholder in a place called Babylon.

Thanks, Jesus!

And, of course, the commandments against murder at theft MUST be the source for our own laws on the subject, because no nation has ever had laws against murder or theft unless it was founded by Christians. Christianity is the only possible source for a moral code in which murder and theft would be prohibited.

There's so much sarcasm I can't tell where the posts begin! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

There's so much sarcasm I can't tell where the posts begin! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

Sure there is: Jesus Christ.

It's only simple Christian Science! Nearly thirty years after his birth, he took his pop's special time machine and killed off all humans before 4,500 B.C. He then ventured ahead to 4,450 B.C. to plant a few children in a central location in the Middle East, and the rest is history!

Thanks again, Jesus! You're the best!

There's so much sarcasm I can't tell where the posts begin! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

Sarcasm: the silent killer, ever since the internets began. Remember kids: sarcasm makes baby jesus cry.

Sure there is: Jesus Christ.

It's only simple Christian Science! Nearly thirty years after his birth, he took his pop's special time machine and killed off all humans before 4,500 B.C. He then ventured ahead to 4,450 B.C. to plant a few children in a central location in the Middle East, and the rest is history!

Thanks again, Jesus! You're the best!

Dude you're gonna make his head a'splode.

Dude you're gonna make his head a'splode.

http://b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/ScannersExplodingHead.gif

Dude you're gonna make his head a'splode.

Too late!

http://b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/ScannersExplodingHead.gif

Sarcasm-induced Scanners effects.

That's kind of hypnotic. Now you've warped my fragile little mind! I'll become a serial killer!

That's kind of hypnotic. Now you've warped my fragile little mind! I'll become a serial killer!

You weren't, already?

Not that I'd tell you if I were!

That's kind of hypnotic. Now you've warped my fragile little mind! I'll become a serial killer!

That's not gonna happen... Not when Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time is on the case!

Using his pop's trusty time machine, he transcends the ages to correct what is wrong. With each passing week, he brings love, peace, and justice to the world, and doesn't blink an eye at stopping for some Starbucks on the way.

He is Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time.

That's kind of hypnotic. Now you've warped my fragile little mind! I'll become a serial killer!

Naw, blaming the internet will never work, you need a credible scapegoat. Like videogames or wrestling!

That's not gonna happen... Not when Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time is on the case!

Using his pop's trusty time machine, he transcends the ages to correct what is wrong. With each passing week, he brings love, peace, and justice to the world, and doesn't blink an eye at stopping for some Starbucks on the way.

He is Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time.

<3 you so much.

You guys are so getting round kicked.

You guys are so getting round kicked.

So are you for not knowing that it's roundhouse kicked.

Alright, now maybe ACLU should back the fuck off and stop attacking Christians.

Ya gotta love that Fundie persecution complex. :rolleyes:

I also can't help but notice that Potato Factory is still online, yet he's avoiding both this thread and the Anti-Terror Law one, both of which he's been called on his BS and demanded to provide proof or at least a decent argument.

He's done neither. Instead it seems he's just up and left in lieu of admitting defeat.

I also can't help but notice that Potato Factory is still online, yet he's avoiding both this thread and the Anti-Terror Law one, both of which he's been called on his BS and demanded to provide proof or at least a decent argument.

He's done neither. Instead it seems he's just up and left in lieu of admitting defeat.

I'm busy looking at PORN, ok? Cody Lane and Taylor Rain FTW.

I also can't help but notice that Potato Factory is still online, yet he's avoiding both this thread and the Anti-Terror Law one, both of which he's been called on his BS and demanded to provide proof or at least a decent argument.

He's done neither. Instead it seems he's just up and left in lieu of admitting defeat.

Have you ever seen anyone admit defeat and change their opinion on NS?

I also can't help but notice that Potato Factory is still online, yet he's avoiding both this thread and the Anti-Terror Law one, both of which he's been called on his BS and demanded to provide proof or at least a decent argument.

He's done neither. Instead it seems he's just up and left in lieu of admitting defeat.

Hey, they all do that. It's to be expected when one has so little self esteem and is also sorely lacking in confidence.

"Hey! I'll just rush in this thread and spew my unfounded, ridiculous bullshit and insult anybody who tells me that I'm wrong, even when they give proof! Oh, and when I'm ready to admit that I was wrong, and that I stepped out of line, I'll just walk away and not say anything!"

Gotta love 'em. Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time would not stand for that, no siree.

I'm busy looking at PORN, ok? Cody Lane and Taylor Rain FTW.

It's 11AM EST and you're already jackin' it? Sheesh man, get a gf.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/spammers0mr.jpg

It's 11AM EST and you're already jackin' it? Sheesh man, get a gf.

I don't know of many girls who'd want somebody with that kind of a personality, really...

It's 11AM EST and you're already jackin' it? Sheesh man, get a gf.

It's 3:08AM here.

That song "Turning Japanese" is true. I almost gave myself lockjaw.

That's not gonna happen... Not when Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time is on the case!

Using his pop's trusty time machine, he transcends the ages to correct what is wrong. With each passing week, he brings love, peace, and justice to the world, and doesn't blink an eye at stopping for some Starbucks on the way.

He is Jesus Christ: The Hero of Time.

Are you sure he's not....


LINK!?

It's 11AM EST and you're already jackin' it? Sheesh man, get a gf.

Geez, he's Australian, so it's not 11AM there, and... well... with or without a gf, if I haven't rubbed one out by 11AM, it's a good sign I'm depressed.

It's 3:08AM here.

That song "Turning Japanese" is true. I almost gave myself lockjaw.

Autofellatio is hard kids.

Are you saying that gay men are merely confused? :eek:

are you saying gay men have square pegs?:confused:

Geez, he's Australian, so it's not 11AM there, and... well... with or without a gf, if I haven't rubbed one out by 11AM, it's a good sign I'm depressed.

Addict :p

No, by being right. What the fuck HAS ACLU done for Christians lately?

protected their right to be christian. You don't really get this whole protection of civil liberties thing, do ya?

Autofellatio is hard kids.

That song's not about autofellatio, it's about masturbation. My friend can autofellate, though. He used to be the most normal of the group, until one day he said "Hey guys, I can suck my own dick!" and bent himself in half to prove it.

That song's not about autofellatio, it's about masturbation. My friend can autofellate, though. He used to be the most normal of the group, until one day he said "Hey guys, I can suck my own dick!" and bent himself in half to prove it.

That claim is no good without pics.

Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

When Chuck Norris jumps into a body of water, he doesn’t get wet. The water gets Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits.

In an average living room there are 1,242 objects Chuck Norris could use to kill you, including the room itself.

Chuck Norris is the reason why Wally is hiding.

Chuck Norris can set ants on fire with a magnifying glass. At night.

When Chuck Norris runs with scissors, other people get hurt.

:cool:

protected their right to be christian. You don't really get this whole protection of civil liberties thing, do ya?
I think maybe we don't get what it means to "be Christian."

According to some Christians, and some of the people in this thread, "being Christian" appears to require that OTHER people participate in Christian worship. One cannot simply be Christian and have done with it; one needs to have government-funded schools telling children about Jesus. One needs to have taxpayer dollars used to construct Christian monuments on public land. One needs to have secular political leaders reciting Christian prayers during official functions.

Other people, of other faiths, may be capable of having beliefs and values even if other people do not share them. Perhaps other religions can exist even if the government does not spend time and money enshrining them in every aspect of daily life. But not Christianity, apparently.

After reading the soy crap, I had a little toddle round WND, and found Chuck Norris's column. Now, if he's found Christianity and wants to blabber on about it, and WND is willing to let him do so, then so be it, but in the midst of the seemingly customary seasonal ACLU bashing (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53317), he unleashed this little gem:

"establish rights for the sexual deviant"?

What a fucking twat. Even those who disagree with ACLU, or think Christianity is under threat, or dislike the secularisation of the holidays, or agree with some of his other points, are surely willing to reject that kind of regressive twaddle?

Props to Chuck Norris. He is correct in every respect.

Props to Chuck Norris. He is correct in every respect.
*sighs*

Oh and on the site there are adverts for Conservative T-Shirts...

"Re-defeat communism 2008" with H. Clinton's face on - wtf?

I was unaware that she was a communist... or any kind of socialist, for that matter. It's also good to see that "commie" is still an insult bandied around against anyone even remotely worrying to Conservatives. Such as women with any kind of power.

I don't care what you guys say, I've met him in person and he's really nice, caring, and humble man.

Erecting Christian monuments

hehe and i agree with all the serious stuff to.

After reading the soy crap, I had a little toddle round WND, and found Chuck Norris's column. Now, if he's found Christianity and wants to blabber on about it, and WND is willing to let him do so, then so be it, but in the midst of the seemingly customary seasonal ACLU bashing (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53317), he unleashed this little gem:

"establish rights for the sexual deviant"?

What a fucking twat. Even those who disagree with ACLU, or think Christianity is under threat, or dislike the secularisation of the holidays, or agree with some of his other points, are surely willing to reject that kind of regressive twaddle?

Don't you get it? What makes Chuck Norris so awesome is that he's so manly. Not one ounce, one meager scintilla of femininity corrupts his sublimely manly being.

Lesser men are, to some degree or other, feminine. However masculine they may be, they are flawed. Perhaps they cried the day they were kicked in the balls while drunk at their mothers' funerals. Perhaps they used a napkin once. Perhaps they occaisionally urinate while sitting down if they are already taking a dump. Whatever it is, they are less than the paragon of manliness, Chuck Norris.

You say "ignorant bigot" as though it somehow makes him less than he is known to be. He is unblemished by such womanly things as the ability to understand abstract thoughts, or consider the irony of worshiping a God of compassion while remaining a warmonger.

Lesser men, like (I'm guessing) you and I are cursed with womanly frailties like the abilitis to communicate , to think about two things at once in order to form a comparison, or to see things from the other person's point of view. But Chuck Norris, and his acolytes, know that the only reason one should ever think about things from another person's point of view is so that they can think about how awesome it would be to be Chuck Norris.




... Dammit. My Sarcastometer just exploded. :mad:

I’ve always known he was a Christian, but I didn’t know he was also a bigot. No more Chuck Norris jokes from me.

Everyone is entitled to their own views. I for one side with Chuck Norris, and I think conservative Christians all agree with him too. But like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

And by the way: the language was unnecessary. How that word fits into your post is beyond me. It only serves to bring out the awful in the English language.

Arr the English language is among the greatest of the Pirate languages matey. We like a word we pillage it and use it as we see fit.

Raise the mainsails lads! I spy an adjective sitting ripe for the plunderrr!

...and his movies are unwatchable. But seriously, he's very much a bigoted man.

Everyone is entitled to their own views. I for one side with Chuck Norris, and I think conservative Christians all agree with him too. But like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

And by the way: the language was unnecessary. How that word fits into your post is beyond me. It only serves to bring out the awful in the English language.

I didn't know we were playing Pointless and Irrelevant Platitudes. I love that game.

My turn.

Before you criticize a man be sure to walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him you're a mile away and you have his shoes.

Samuel L M.F. Jackson would whoop the living shit outta fagy Chuck Norris anyday.

Arr the English language is among the greatest of the Pirate languages matey. We like a word we pillage it and use it as we see fit.

Raise the mainsails lads! I spy an adjective sitting ripe for the plunderrr!

I love it! Keep sailin' the seas matey! And if yer ever anywhere Angels World, please drop by. We'd love to have ya!

I didn't know we were playing Pointless and Irrelevant Platitudes. I love that game.

My turn.

Before you criticize a man be sure to walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him you're a mile away and you have his shoes.

Good one! I'll have to remember that for next time.

Good one! I'll have to remember that for next time.

Assuming that you were talking to me. If you weren't, don't worry about it. ... That was a good saying, though.

*makes popcorn*

Yeah... I think that guys kinda krazy...
Him and his weird work-out machines.. HA!

Addict :p

It's called being a boy, and 22. :D

<fap fap fap>

Meh Him and Cameron what's his name are just alike. You know they're washed up when they end up on TBN. I recently saw Dr. Phil and his wife on TBN and I lost what little respect I had for him. Same goes for the Cpt of the loveboat and the guy who use to play a preacher on Amen.


Anyway how many times has Chucky been married?

No, we employ common sense. Hey, get this; our malls are allowed to use the word CHRISTMAS.

Uh, any business in America can do whatever the hell they want, in regards to if they use Christmas or whatnot.

The reason why they don't has nothing to with legality and everything to do with business. So really...

He is unblemished by such womanly things as the ability to understand abstract thoughts, or consider the irony of worshiping a God of compassion while remaining a warmonger.
If he were truely manly, he wouldn't need worship anything other than his own free-swinging cock (because pants just haven't been manly since women started wearing them).

Spam's bad, mmkay?