NationStates Jolt Archive


Aliens steal Americans' identities

Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 02:23
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16169899/

It seems that these illegals are getting worse and worse, now they're stealing identities, the US has just become less safe, anybody is now indanger of having their identity stolen by a bunch of illegal leaches. Why doesn't the government knock them as well as terrorists?!?!? They're as much of a threat, especially to our freedom.
JiangGuo
13-12-2006, 02:24
LOLs. I was thinking of Grey Extraterrestrials trying to wear Mr. Jack Doe's shoes and go to work..."Aliens" indeed.

It does make for great comedic imagery.
The Psyker
13-12-2006, 02:26
Damn it I was looking for abduction stories not this drivel:mad:
Wallonochia
13-12-2006, 02:27
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16169899/

It seems that these illegals are getting worse and worse, now they're stealing identities, the US has just become less safe, anybody is now indanger of having their identity stolen by a bunch of illegal leaches. Why doesn't the government knock them as well as terrorists?!?!? They're as much of a threat, especially to our freedom.

I'd love to hear you explain how illegal immigrants are a threat to freedom.
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 02:29
Damn it I was looking for abduction stories not this drivel:mad:

I do know someone who claims to have been abducted by illegal aliens...they pulled out some strage silvery object and threatened to gut him with it if he didn't surrender the gallons of soda loaded in the back of his truck, he fought them off (probably wanted to steal the soda and sell it later) then they vanished :eek:
Yl-lWl-l
13-12-2006, 02:30
Damn those aliens! If they steal our identities, soon there won't be enough identities left for hard working American ID thieves!
The South Islands
13-12-2006, 02:31
You know, if we got rid of these racist, xenophobic immigration quotas, we wouldn't have a problem with illegal immigration.
Rainbowwws
13-12-2006, 02:31
I need to post again
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 02:34
I'd love to hear you explain how illegal immigrants are a threat to freedom.

They ruin the economy(less taxes for projects), they interfere with military training on the border(less expeirenced military for defending the free world)
they increase crime and disease (I don't think I have to expound)
Now that they are stealing identities they effectivily steal our freedoms because the person with the identity stolen will have less freedom (I think he/she would because if they don't have an identity you might not trust them when they tell you who they are) until it is regained.

Next this id theft will happen on a large scale, massive loss of freedom there. :(
The Psyker
13-12-2006, 02:35
I do know someone who claims to have been abducted by illegal aliens...they pulled out some strage silvery object and threatened to gut him with it if he didn't surrender the gallons of soda loaded in the back of his truck, he fought them off (probably wanted to steal the soda and sell it later) then they vanished :eek:

That story is odder than the one's I've been told by people who actually do claim to have been abducted.
Unabashed Greed
13-12-2006, 02:36
Uh oh, looks like the Buttle family is in for some shit now!!


Seriously though, how is this more frightening than the idea that the government we currently live under having the power to simply call you a terorist (or "enemy combatant"), no matter who you are, and simply disappear you with no charge, trial, or even human contact beyond your personal torturer?
Pyotr
13-12-2006, 02:36
Next this id theft will happen on a large scale, massive loss of freedom there. :(

No it won't.
The Psyker
13-12-2006, 02:38
Uh oh, looks like the Buttle family is in for some shit now!!


Seriously though, how is this more frightening than the idea that the government we currently live under having the power to simply call you a terorist (or "enemy combatant"), no matter who you are, and simply disappear you with no charge, trial, or even human contact beyond your personal torturer?

Well the aliens also like probing people in funny ways, though I suppose the goverment might do that too.:)
The Nazz
13-12-2006, 02:38
Anyone want to bet whether or not the company that hired all these people had something to do with this? It wouldn't be unprecedented. Not very long ago, Tyson Foods got busted flying illegals in to their private airstrips. Wouldn't surprise me if Swift had a scam going on the side to help cover their asses on this.
Celtlund
13-12-2006, 02:42
I'd love to hear you explain how illegal immigrants are a threat to freedom.

Well, if they steal your identity and commit a crime you could end up in jail for a few days or weeks while the matter is checked out. :(
Kryozerkia
13-12-2006, 02:44
Nothing on abductions or anal probing? What a let down!
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 02:44
Well, if they steal your identity and commit a crime you could end up in jail for a few days or weeks while the matter is checked out. :(

I rest on my case, massive loss of freedom there, being sent to jail and punished for an illegal's crimes, an illegal who shouldn't have been there in the first place. :mad: *sighs* massive loss of freedom...
Dobbsworld
13-12-2006, 02:44
Meh. Who wants to be some dude in Buttfuck, U.S.A.?
Heculisis
13-12-2006, 02:45
They ruin the economy(less taxes for projects), they interfere with military training on the border(less expeirenced military for defending the free world)
they increase crime and disease (I don't think I have to expound)
Now that they are stealing identities they effectivily steal our freedoms because the person with the identity stolen will have less freedom (I think he/she would because if they don't have an identity you might not trust them when they tell you who they are) until it is regained.

Next this id theft will happen on a large scale, massive loss of freedom there. :(

You do realize that the majority of identity theft is done by American citizens right? Most illegal immigrants don't have the time or resources to pull something like that off.
Wallonochia
13-12-2006, 02:45
They ruin the economy(less taxes for projects)

Not particularly no. In fact, immigrants help the economy, although native US born minimum wage workers do get hurt.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/01/news/economy/immigration_economy/index.htm

they interfere with military training on the border(less expeirenced military for defending the free world)

Other than the National Guard that Bush sent to the border recently (and that's not many of them) the military has nothing to do with the border.

they increase crime and disease (I don't think I have to expound)

I think you do. As for crime, I think you'll find a correlation between poverty and crime. As for disease, if you mean they're less healthy, that could be because they don't have proper access to non-emergency healthcare.

http://www.hispanichealth.org/facts_findings.lasso

Now that they are stealing identities they effectivily steal our freedoms because the person with the identity stolen will have less freedom (I think he/she would because if they don't have an identity you might not trust them when they tell you who they are) until it is regained

I'm certain there are a lot more native born US citizens that are ID thieves than immgrant ID thieves. Also, I bet less immigrants would resort to things like this if they could legally get a job that paid more than $2/hour.
Heculisis
13-12-2006, 02:47
They ruin the economy(less taxes for projects), they interfere with military training on the border(less expeirenced military for defending the free world)
they increase crime and disease (I don't think I have to expound)
Now that they are stealing identities they effectivily steal our freedoms because the person with the identity stolen will have less freedom (I think he/she would because if they don't have an identity you might not trust them when they tell you who they are) until it is regained.

Next this id theft will happen on a large scale, massive loss of freedom there. :(

I fail to see how providing jobs in positions that won't get filled anyway hurts the economy. We need a large source of immigration in order to compete with the rapidly expanding Chinese economy.
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 02:49
[QUOTE=Wallonochia;12076075]
Other than the National Guard that Bush sent to the border recently (and that's not many of them) the military has nothing to do with the border.

QUOTE]

I read an article that there are training facilities on the border, or were, too many immigrants went in the line of fire so the US decided to move them.
Celtlund
13-12-2006, 02:50
They ruin the economy(less taxes for projects), they interfere with military training on the border(less expeirenced military for defending the free world)
they increase crime and disease (I don't think I have to expound)
Now that they are stealing identities they effectivily steal our freedoms because the person with the identity stolen will have less freedom (I think he/she would because if they don't have an identity you might not trust them when they tell you who they are) until it is regained.

Next this id theft will happen on a large scale, massive loss of freedom there. :(

OK! Now I know who you are. You are http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/stupid.gif or you are a http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/taz.gif or a http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/partytime.gif because you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
Celtlund
13-12-2006, 02:55
Anyone want to bet whether or not the company that hired all these people had something to do with this? It wouldn't be unprecedented. Not very long ago, Tyson Foods got busted flying illegals in to their private airstrips. Wouldn't surprise me if Swift had a scam going on the side to help cover their asses on this.

Looking at the article on FOX (no don'g gag yet) they have been working with the Feds for some time on a program that checks for bogus Social Security numbers. This investigation has been going on for over a year. Seems the program they were using to check the SSAN did not include a check to see if it was a duplicat SSAN. So, two people working under the same number were not caught, until now.
Celtlund
13-12-2006, 02:57
I rest on my case, massive loss of freedom there, being sent to jail and punished for an illegal's crimes, an illegal who shouldn't have been there in the first place. :mad: *sighs* massive loss of freedom...

No, not a MASSIVE LOSS OF FREEDOM. My buddie was only in jail for a couple of hours before the cops got it figured out.
Wallonochia
13-12-2006, 02:57
I read an article that there are training facilities on the border, or were, too many immigrants went in the line of fire so the US decided to move them.

Maybe some sort of Air Force bombing range or something. There aren't any Army facilities on the border, and if they are they're extremely minor operations.
Celtlund
13-12-2006, 02:58
[QUOTE=Wallonochia;12076075]
Other than the National Guard that Bush sent to the border recently (and that's not many of them) the military has nothing to do with the border.

QUOTE]

I read an article that there are training facilities on the border, or were, too many immigrants went in the line of fire so the US decided to move them.

WTF :confused:
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 03:00
OK! Now I know who you are. You are http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/stupid.gif or you are a http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/taz.gif or a http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/partytime.gif because you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

That info I've either heard from people telling their tales of close encounters with the illegals or I've read about, some of them is school even.
The Nazz
13-12-2006, 03:14
No, not a MASSIVE LOSS OF FREEDOM. My buddie was only in jail for a couple of hours before the cops got it figured out.
He's still likely to have problems in the future, though. Because most of our law enforcement databases--those that exist, that is--aren't linked together, it sometimes takes a long time to clear the shit out of there. He may find himself in jail again, and more than once, before it's all said and done.
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 03:19
He's still likely to have problems in the future, though. Because most of our law enforcement databases--those that exist, that is--aren't linked together, it sometimes takes a long time to clear the shit out of there. He may find himself in jail again, and more than once, before it's all said and done.

They should, it would make law enforcment more effeicient and instead of clearing stuff they can focus more on crime.
Heculisis
13-12-2006, 03:21
[QUOTE=Wallonochia;12076075]
Other than the National Guard that Bush sent to the border recently (and that's not many of them) the military has nothing to do with the border.

QUOTE]

I read an article that there are training facilities on the border, or were, too many immigrants went in the line of fire so the US decided to move them.

I'd like to see a link. Or at least your source.
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 03:23
[QUOTE=Reconaissance Ilsands;12076104]

I'd like to see a link. Or at least your source.

It was printed, it was off CNN or some other newsite. I remember the title. "Illegals in the line of fire"
Free Soviets
13-12-2006, 03:46
"ICE chief Julie L. Myers told reporters in Washington that agents had uncovered a scheme in which illegal immigrants and others had stolen or bought the identities and Social Security numbers of possibly hundreds of U.S. citizens and lawful residents to get jobs"

omg noes!!! those dastardly aliens are, um, paying extra fica taxes for me.
The Scandinvans
13-12-2006, 03:49
You know, if we got rid of these racist, xenophobic immigration quotas, we wouldn't have a problem with illegal immigration.No offense, but currently our the U.S. is having a policy of favoring third world immigrants and putting above professional ones.
Reconaissance Ilsands
13-12-2006, 06:00
No offense, but currently our the U.S. is having a policy of favoring third world immigrants and putting above professional ones.

:(
Congo--Kinshasa
13-12-2006, 06:14
Damn it I was looking for abduction stories not this drivel:mad:

LOL!