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Star Trek's Q vs. Star Wars' Jedi/Sith

IDF
12-12-2006, 21:26
What's more powerful?

The Q Continuum or the combined Jedi/Sith.

I'm going with the Q Continuum. After all, Q can snap his fingers and make the Death Star disappear
Andaluciae
12-12-2006, 21:27
I used to have a quote I'd say when people would compare star trek and star wars, but I forgot it.
Trotskylvania
12-12-2006, 21:27
What's more powerful?

The Q Continuum or the combined Jedi/Sith.

I'm going with the Q Continuum. After all, Q can snap his fingers and make the Death Star disappear

Q might as well be God, so I'll go with Q.
Unknown apathy
12-12-2006, 21:28
Let's see, an omnipotent being which can alter the fabric of time and space with the click of a finger.... or a group of zealous dark and brooding warriors who master an art as ancient as time...

I'll go with the first
Call to power
12-12-2006, 21:30
considering how the ultimate Jedi/Sith would be a Q anyway *shrug* (in other words the Jedi-Sith alliance would just need one to be trained enough in the force and teach others thus the Q can be overrun)

Of course once you get o the level of omnipotent being fighting becomes sum what redundant
The Raptorian States
12-12-2006, 21:32
Q, easily. The Sith and Jedi are mostly mortal, as are Q, but have power overwhelming compared.
Dosuun
12-12-2006, 21:33
Q wins. Q is about as close to god as you can get. The jedi are just a bunch of kinghts with psycho-kinesis.
The Psyker
12-12-2006, 21:34
Eh, Q? Jedi/Sith are powerful for mortal beings and the strongest can do some really amazing shit, but the weakest Q could do all that and put Picard in a fruit hat and dress with the snap of a finger.
Extreme Ironing
12-12-2006, 21:34
I have no knowledge of Star Trek characters/factions so will have to vote for the Jedi/Sith by default...
Swilatia
12-12-2006, 21:35
Jedi/Sith, because star trek sucks.
Trotskylvania
12-12-2006, 21:36
I have no knowledge of Star Trek characters/factions so will have to vote for the Jedi/Sith by default...

Here's all you need to know: Q = God. That's all you need.
Dosuun
12-12-2006, 21:42
Who's voting for the Jedi? When Trek characters die and go to the afterlife they meet Q. (Tapestry)
Picard: "You are not God"
Q: "Blasphemy. I should cast you out or smite or something."

Q's kid crashes planets together and starts wars just for fun. The Jedi would stand no chance.
Arthais101
12-12-2006, 21:42
Here's all you need to know: Q = God. That's all you need.

That's pretty much it. There's no real indication that the Q are mortal in the sense that we know it. There have only been a few times when it has been indicative that the Q can be killed:

1) when the next generation Q was rendered human, however again, he was actually altered to be human by the power of the Q continuom. Once turned back he again was immortal

2) the Q in voyager who committed suicide who, again, was rendered mortal before hand

3) the Q civil war, again in voyager, where it was shown that the Q, in all their might and glory CAN actually die. However the side effects of the weapons used that were actually powerful enough to kill a Q was stars exploding...
Andaluciae
12-12-2006, 21:44
*cackles*
SHAOLIN9
12-12-2006, 21:45
Jedi/Sith, because star trek sucks.

*Offers a Smunkee-proof vest*:p

Q FTW!
Utracia
12-12-2006, 21:46
Q's could snap their fingers and destroy the universe. How can you compete with that?

Still, the Force is more cool, has less of a force of a deity to it. Being the next best thing to a god isn't really fair. Not to mention Q is an annoying figure who would probably cause Luke Skywalker to go over to the dark side out of sheer exasperation.
Andaluciae
12-12-2006, 21:46
I couldn't tell you, but, this one time, at band camp...

YOUR MOTHER!
Morvonia
12-12-2006, 21:49
i am sorry but Q is the one who would win.
Ashmoria
12-12-2006, 21:49
yes but Q is mentally weak. consider how many times he was bested by a human.

the jedi would just wave a hand, make a suggestion and that would be that.
Arthais101
12-12-2006, 21:52
yes but Q is mentally weak. consider how many times he was bested by a human.

It's difficult to say he was ever, really, bested. most of his interactions were tests, to see which way picard et al would go. I don't think it's correct to say that humans ever "won" per se, Q's goals were always to test, to see which way things went. Not to "win" anything.

the jedi would just wave a hand, make a suggestion and that would be that.

you think the Q have a mind of the sort that the jedi can influence? Even Diana couldn't ever get a reading on Q.
Ashmoria
12-12-2006, 21:58
It's difficult to say he was ever, really, bested. most of his interactions were tests, to see which way picard et al would go. I don't think it's correct to say that humans ever "won" per se, Q's goals were always to test, to see which way things went. Not to "win" anything.

that is part of his weakness-- the need to toy with his foes. not unlike the bad guys from the bond movies.


you think the Q have a mind of the sort that the jedi can influence? Even Diana couldn't ever get a reading on Q.

diana didnt have the force behind her.
The Alma Mater
12-12-2006, 22:00
diana didnt have the force behind her.

Which raises the question: can Q make the Force disappear ?
Utracia
12-12-2006, 22:00
It's difficult to say he was ever, really, bested. most of his interactions were tests, to see which way picard et al would go. I don't think it's correct to say that humans ever "won" per se, Q's goals were always to test, to see which way things went. Not to "win" anything.

Didn't he want to marry Janeway? That didn't happen, sounds like being bested to me. :D

At best, you could say he has been proven wrong, just as telling, really.
Minaris
12-12-2006, 22:03
Which raises the question: can Q make the Force disappear ?

No; well, he could, but then he'd die.

The Force is controlled by the mitichlorians, little buggers that allow life and sentience to exist. No mitichlorians=no Q.
Ashmoria
12-12-2006, 22:05
Which raises the question: can Q make the Force disappear ?

not without destroying the very fabric of the universe of which Q is a part. to remove the force is to remove Q.

note that im not claiming that Q uses the force, he does NOT, im claiming that the force is the underpinning existence.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 22:09
Didn't he want to marry Janeway? That didn't happen, sounds like being bested to me. :D

No, he just wanted a son. :p


Q... why? because Q can, and has, travelled through time. so he goes back and prevents the first Jedi/Sith from being born, infact, he goes and places a limitation to the Mitichlorian levels that beings can have, poof, no Jedi/sith.
Smunkeeville
12-12-2006, 22:10
*Offers a Smunkee-proof vest*:p

Q FTW!

Q.

and Star Trek only sucks if you aren't smart enough to follow it.

I like Star Wars don't get me wrong, tons of symbolic stuff, but really, Star Wars on a base level is about people shooting people, and Trek on a basic level is about humanity.
Arthais101
12-12-2006, 22:10
not without destroying the very fabric of the universe of which Q is a part. to remove the force is to remove Q.

note that im not claiming that Q uses the force, he does NOT, im claiming that the force is the underpinning existence.

The force is the underpinning existence, yes.

And the mitoclorians are what the jedis use to manipulate the force. Think of the mitoclorians as the bridge between jedi and force.

Q couldn't undue the force. He could, however, simply remove the mitoclorians from the bodies of the jedi/sith rendering them powerless.
Arthais101
12-12-2006, 22:11
No, he just wanted a son. :p

Which, by the way, he got.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 22:11
not without destroying the very fabric of the universe of which Q is a part. to remove the force is to remove Q.

note that im not claiming that Q uses the force, he does NOT, im claiming that the force is the underpinning existence.

it's been proven that Q lives in another dimention. thus removing "the Force" actually may do nothing to the Q continum.
Arthais101
12-12-2006, 22:12
No; well, he could, but then he'd die.

The Force is controlled by the mitichlorians, little buggers that allow life and sentience to exist. No mitichlorians=no Q.

what makes you think the Q are in any way biological? Or, at least, biological in a way we'd understand?

The best insight into the Q comes form a voyager episode where Janeway and others are taken into the Q realm. It pretty well showed that they're not just powerful humans. They really are something else all together

"we've all been the scarecrow!"
JuNii
12-12-2006, 22:13
Which, by the way, he got.

LOL!

Q: Ready
??: sure, let's get this over with.
*they touch hands*
Q: Admit it, I was good.
Janeway: Wait... that was IT?!? That was all to it?
Q: don't complain, you had your chance and you blew it.

(From memory... )
The Psyker
12-12-2006, 22:15
not without destroying the very fabric of the universe of which Q is a part. to remove the force is to remove Q.

note that im not claiming that Q uses the force, he does NOT, im claiming that the force is the underpinning existence.

Not, really most aliens in the Star Wars universe that come from outside their universe, have tended to be potrayed with vearying levels of connection to the force, from the same level as natives all the way to being completly invisible to it. So the force as it apears in the Star Wars galaxy, or at least in the form that Jedi/Sith manipulate as it appears that a Jedi could experiance to a limited extent some form of force connection with the group I mentioned as being invisible to the force although that was a one shot involving odd circumstances, is not universal to their universe.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 22:18
Not, really most aliens in the Star Wars universe that come from outside their universe, have tended to be potrayed with vearying levels of connection to the force, from the same level as natives all the way to being completly invisible to it. So the force as it apears in the Star Wars galaxy, or at least in the form that Jedi/Sith manipulate as it appears that a Jedi could experiance to a limited extent some form of force connection with the group I mentioned as being invisible to the force although that was a one shot involving odd circumstances, is not universal to their universe.

well, are all the books now "Official"?
The Psyker
12-12-2006, 22:21
well, are all the books now "Official"?

Yes, I gues it depends on if you consider them canon, as far as I'm aware Star Wars books are all considered official canon, even when they contradict each other, and only two of the diferent Star Trek books are, Mosaic and Pathways, Voyager backstory books written by one of the producers.
Heikoku
12-12-2006, 22:22
The Jedi have a connection to the force.

The Q ARE the force.
Arthais101
12-12-2006, 22:23
The Jedi have a connection to the force.

The Q ARE the force.

you know...that's pretty much a efficient way of putting it.
Extreme Ironing
12-12-2006, 22:36
Here's all you need to know: Q = God. That's all you need.

Well, I'm told Vader was rather god-like in bed with all that added mechanic strength and finesse...
German Nightmare
12-12-2006, 23:10
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/captq.jpg
That is a rhetorical question.
Saxnot
12-12-2006, 23:25
Q. Really obviously.
Nermid
12-12-2006, 23:36
Much as I like the Jedi, I must go with Q.

Consider: Jedi/Sith have vague abilities with the Force, which is essentially magic. Yes, in the books they can create storms or move planets, but that's about the maximum upper spectrum. Most Jedi can't do that. Oh, and they have glow-sticks.

Q, on the other hand, can literally go bowling with stars. As a test for Picard, he once created an anomaly that threatened the entire fabric of reality.
On. A. Whim.

So, you're pitting a group of people who, if they all got together and stopped killing each other, could manipulate one spatial body against a single being that manipulates spacial bodies when he's bored. You're pitting people whose oldest member is under a thousand against a being that has been around since the Beginning (note the big B). This is like pitting a kid with a magnifying glass on a sunny day against the ants, and saying that the ants have force of numbers.

I'm not even looking at the poll question, which says the Continuum. That's like an army of kids with magnifying glasses.

No contest.
Prekkendoria
12-12-2006, 23:43
Q would win, even though the Jedi/Sith are far more interesting.

The real question is would the Force turn its will against Q, and then would it destroy him? That is a possibility.
Murgerspher
12-12-2006, 23:45
All of you underestimate the power of the force.

Just kidding but I don't think this question is valid because the star trek and star wars universes are just that,separate universes.

Star Trek sucks anyway.:D
New Domici
12-12-2006, 23:51
Yes, I gues it depends on if you consider them canon, as far as I'm aware Star Wars books are all considered official canon, even when they contradict each other, and only two of the diferent Star Trek books are, Mosaic and Pathways, Voyager backstory books written by one of the producers.

Star Wars has varying levels of officialdom.

Only the movies are considered the Core Universe. The rest is considered the Expanded Universe. They standards over continuity are pretty loose because Lucas maintains that whatever happens in the books, RPG's, and video games has no bearing on the movies.

And the best insight into the biological nature of the Q would probably been that Voyager episode where Q gave up trying to have a child with Janeway and was persuaded to have one with a female Q. Their mating consisted of touching fingers E.T. style. It's pretty much an act of will, as is their entire nature.
New Domici
12-12-2006, 23:54
All of you underestimate the power of the force.

Just kidding but I don't think this question is valid because the star trek and star wars universes are just that,separate universes.

Star Trek sucks anyway.:D

Well, it breaks down to, "which is stronger. The ability to play with planets as if they were marbels, and to alter the universe according to your whim, or the ability to make small objects float and make flashy lights."

As one comicbook fan put it. "Flashing lights aren't a superpower. They're God's way of saying "You Suck" in technicolor."
New Domici
12-12-2006, 23:59
Q would win, even though the Jedi/Sith are far more interesting.

The real question is would the Force turn its will against Q, and then would it destroy him? That is a possibility.

No. The Force is at most the fabric of the universe. The Jedi can do things no one else can by bringing themselves into harmony with it, much the same way an engineer can irrigate a field by learning the laws of hydrodynamics. The Q can alter all of that on a whim. Q could suppress the force completly throughout the universe, make one side or the other ascendent, or bring it into balance. It would be like an "engineer" who could make the river simply jump out of its bed and wash its silt over the fields whenever he wanted.
Minaris
13-12-2006, 00:07
No. The Force is at most the fabric of the universe. The Jedi can do things no one else can by bringing themselves into harmony with it, much the same way an engineer can irrigate a field by learning the laws of hydrodynamics. The Q can alter all of that on a whim. Q could suppress the force completly throughout the universe, make one side or the other ascendent, or bring it into balance. It would be like an "engineer" who could make the river simply jump out of its bed and wash its silt over the fields whenever he wanted.

Of course, The Force is also sentient (it has will, will powerful enough to concieve a human (Anakin)).

But the real point here is that the Force and the Q are irreconcilable; we cannot know the true answer to the question asked in the OP. From what we have seen in the respective universes, the Q can do whatever they want while the Force barely does anything. But if the Q met the Force itself... we could not know the outcome. (It would make an interesting movie, though...)
The Psyker
13-12-2006, 00:09
Star Wars has varying levels of officialdom.

Only the movies are considered the Core Universe. The rest is considered the Expanded Universe. They standards over continuity are pretty loose because Lucas maintains that whatever happens in the books, RPG's, and video games has no bearing on the movies.

And the best insight into the biological nature of the Q would probably been that Voyager episode where Q gave up trying to have a child with Janeway and was persuaded to have one with a female Q. Their mating consisted of touching fingers E.T. style. It's pretty much an act of will, as is their entire nature.Thats different than what I've alway heard, my understanding was that GL had said that EU material was official, as it was need his aproval before it was published, but I guess that was before the prequels so it could have changed with the changes they made to the course of events.
Iztatepopotla
13-12-2006, 00:22
Thats different than what I've alway heard, my understanding was that GL had said that EU material was official, as it was need his aproval before it was published, but I guess that was before the prequels so it could have changed with the changes they made to the course of events.

It's official, but not canonical. There are, in general, people who make sure that the stories in the EU don't contradict each other, but some inconsistencies appear just the same. The only period that was closed to the EU was the one immediately before the original trilogy, because of the prequel. They're open to the EU now.

The canon for Star Wars is the movies, their screenplays and novelizations, and the radio series. Everything else is not canon. If there is a contradiction, canon prevails, in the order above (i.e. if the movie contradicts the radio series, the movie is right)
Morganatron
13-12-2006, 00:27
It's official, but not canonical. There are, in general, people who make sure that the stories in the EU don't contradict each other, but some inconsistencies appear just the same. The only period that was closed to the EU was the one immediately before the original trilogy, because of the prequel. They're open to the EU now.

The canon for Star Wars is the movies, their screenplays and novelizations, and the radio series. Everything else is not canon. If there is a contradiction, canon prevails, in the order above (i.e. if the movie contradicts the radio series, the movie is right)

What about the Clone Wars series? Is that considered canon? Will the television series that takes place between the prequels be considered canon, as it will include those particular characters?

Anyway, Q was one of the best things TNG had going for it. I always thought Q and Lxwana Troi would be a pretty good couple...and yes, as much as I love SW, Q would win the whole universe.
Iztatepopotla
13-12-2006, 00:33
What about the Clone Wars series? Is that considered canon? Will the television series that takes place between the prequels be considered canon, as it will include those particular characters?

Depends on how much GL was/will be involved in writing those. I think not, since he really didn't write them.
IDF
13-12-2006, 02:38
Q probably caused the Big Bang because he was bored.
Arthais101
13-12-2006, 03:01
Q, on the other hand, can literally go bowling with stars. As a test for Picard, he once created an anomaly that threatened the entire fabric of reality.
On. A. Whim.

Actually you're missing the point of All Good Things. Q didn't create the anomaly. Actually, Picard did. Q just fuggered with reality enough for Picard to see it.

In the end, Q was actually the savior of humanity. Sure he would have LET the anomoly destroy humanity, if Picard didn't measure up, but it was, actually, Picard's fault, Q bounced him around enough in time to let him realize it.
Tocrowkia
13-12-2006, 03:02
God Hates Trekkies.
IDF
13-12-2006, 03:04
Actually you're missing the point of All Good Things. Q didn't create the anomaly. Actually, Picard did. Q just fuggered with reality enough for Picard to see it.

In the end, Q was actually the savior of humanity. Sure he would have LET the anomoly destroy humanity, if Picard didn't measure up, but it was, actually, Picard's fault, Q bounced him around enough in time to let him realize it.

Picard never would've created it in the first place if Q didn't bounce him around time.

Q can destroy humanity at any point. He nearly did so during "Encounter at Farpoint"
Arthais101
13-12-2006, 03:15
that is part of his weakness-- the need to toy with his foes. not unlike the bad guys from the bond movies.


But humans were never Q's foes. At best they were an experiment, not an enemy. Humans never were a concern to him, they were never a threat to him.

So why not have a bit of fun with them? If they ever did reach the point of being a threat to him, he'd probably destroy them, but why take them seriously?
Arthais101
13-12-2006, 03:17
Q can destroy humanity at any point. He nearly did so during "Encounter at Farpoint"

Did he really? Seperating the real threats from the bravado is difficult. For all of Q's noise about humanity's worthlessness, he did travel around with Vash and save her more than once.
Curious Inquiry
13-12-2006, 03:21
I saw a great tee shirt the other day: picture of Darth Vader with the caption "Sith Happens"

But, obviously, Q.

Can we tell the SW'rs to quit QQing? :p
Non Aligned States
13-12-2006, 03:24
Given what I remember of Q's ability, that being able to shift another's consciousness through time and space, manipulate celestial objects with a snap of his finger, "change the gravitational constant of the universe" in his own words, and other assorted tricks in his bag, I'd have to say from an ability standpoint, he could probably beat every single jedi/sith there ever was.

He'd probably just teleport them all into the palm of his hand at a fraction of their size and go "bye bye" before closing it.
Minaris
13-12-2006, 03:28
Given what I remember of Q's ability, that being able to shift another's consciousness through time and space, manipulate celestial objects with a snap of his finger, "change the gravitational constant of the universe" in his own words, and other assorted tricks in his bag, I'd have to say from an ability standpoint, he could probably beat every single jedi/sith there ever was.

He'd probably just teleport them all into the palm of his hand at a fraction of their size and go "bye bye" before closing it.

But would the Force manifest itself and slap Q in the face?
The Alma Mater
13-12-2006, 07:33
Well, it breaks down to, "which is stronger. The ability to play with planets as if they were marbels, and to alter the universe according to your whim, or the ability to make small objects float and make flashy lights."

Well.. yes.
Jedi weapon: flashy light with cool sound
Q weapon: makes stars go nova. As a sideeffect.
Delator
13-12-2006, 07:47
This is like pitting a kid with a magnifying glass on a sunny day against the ants, and saying that the ants have force of numbers.

I'm not even looking at the poll question, which says the Continuum. That's like an army of kids with magnifying glasses.

No contest.

QFT

Q would just create a neverending supply of cloned Jar-Jars. That'll keep the Jedi busy for a while.
Arthais101
13-12-2006, 08:27
random fact of interest, the character of Q has appeared in more star trek series' than any other character, specifically 3, having made an apperance in next generation, Deep Space 9 and Voyager.

Johnathan Frakes and Majel Barrett both appeared as actors in three different series', Frakes appearing as Commander Riker in Next Generation, and in the finale of Enterprise, as well as Riker's transporter copy Lt. Riker in DS9. Barrett appeared as the nurse in the original series, and Lwakana Troy in DS9 and Next generation. Both actors have played two different roles in a total of three series'

Of course, Barrett has appeared, in part, in every single series, being the voice of the computer.

EDIT: I realize I must make a correction to myself. Both Q and Commander Riker appear in three different series. In addition to the ones i mentioned above, Commander Riker also makes a brief apperance in Voyager.

Which makes Frakes the only actor to appear in 4 of the 5 series'. barret, who was in the credits of all 5, only physically appeared in 3. In voyager and enterprise only her voice was used.
Delator
13-12-2006, 08:33
random fact of interest, the character of Q has appeared in more star trek series' than any other character, specifically 3, having made an apperance in next generation, Deep Space 9 and Voyager.

Johnathan Frakes and Majel Barrett both appeared as actors in three different series', Frakes appearing as Commander Riker in Next Generation, and in the finale of Enterprise, as well as Riker's transporter copy Lt. Riker in DS9. Barrett appeared as the nurse in the original series, and Lwakana Troy in DS9 and Next generation. Both actors have played two different roles in a total of three series'

Of course, Barrett has appeared, in part, in every single series, being the voice of the computer.

Ah, but which actor was the first to play three different species??
Arthais101
13-12-2006, 08:47
Ah, but which actor was the first to play three different species??

two questions:

are we talking actually different species, and not "one character on a mission made to look like another?" as well as are we including or excluding the episode where the next gen crew de-evolved into primative lifeforms?

What about character transformations such as odo who turned into human for a time not shapeshifter? And are we counting Sisko's dream states where he saw many people he was familiar with in different roles? for instance everyone in his dreams were human, even though the people they represented were different

And obviously, odoesq shapeshifters don't count...
Delator
13-12-2006, 08:58
*snip*

The first actor to play three different characters of three different species.
Dzanisimo
13-12-2006, 11:45
Who's voting for the Jedi? When Trek characters die and go to the afterlife they meet Q. (Tapestry)
Picard: "You are not God"
Q: "Blasphemy. I should cast you out or smite or something."

Q's kid crashes planets together and starts wars just for fun. The Jedi would stand no chance.

Yuuzhan Vongs also crashed planets and started wars. Jedi got over them.
Ifreann
13-12-2006, 11:59
The Q have unlimited power over time, space, and the universe. A Q could just *snap* the jedi out of existence.
Non Aligned States
13-12-2006, 12:34
But would the Force manifest itself and slap Q in the face?

To my knowledge, the Force has never done something like that. It's more along the lines of an autonomous balancing system rather than actual sentience.

Besides, if he can change the gravitational constant of the universe so easily, there probably isn't anything stopping him from just making the Force a non-factor by changing Force sensitives to non-sensitives.
Ifreann
13-12-2006, 12:36
To my knowledge, the Force has never done something like that. It's more along the lines of an autonomous balancing system rather than actual sentience.

Besides, if he can change the gravitational constant of the universe so easily, there probably isn't anything stopping him from just making the Force a non-factor by changing Force sensitives to non-sensitives.

I'd change them to mushrooms myself.
Babelistan
13-12-2006, 12:36
as a die hard SW fan I voted Jedis, but I know that Q are more powerful, but lame.
Non Aligned States
13-12-2006, 12:37
Yuuzhan Vongs also crashed planets and started wars. Jedi got over them.

Except the Yuuzhon Vong did it with a fairly substantial war machine one would imagine. An individual Q could do the same thing and more just by snapping his fingers. And he could be anywhere, anytime whenever he wanted.

That makes things a bit unbalanced one would imagine.
Ifreann
13-12-2006, 12:37
as a hard SW fan I voted Jedis, but I know that Q are more powerful, but lame.

:eek:
Babelistan
13-12-2006, 12:40
:eek:

typo
Aelosia
13-12-2006, 12:54
and Star Trek only sucks if you aren't smart enough to follow it.


Yeah right. Oh, the intensity of the dialogues. The art, the expression. The deep philosophical doubts.

At least Star Wars is honest, it wants to tell you a classical story using a spacefaring atmosphere, and entertain you. Nothing more.
Minaris
13-12-2006, 12:59
as a die hard SW fan I voted Jedis, but I know that Q are more powerful, but lame.

The Q are too godly to be as entertaining as they could be.
Babelistan
13-12-2006, 13:04
The Q are too godly to be as entertaining as they could be.

I agree.
Minaris
13-12-2006, 13:07
I agree.

At least the Jedi have limits.

Of course, Darth Plagueis the Wise was a bit edgy... he had a lot of power.

But he didn't APPEAR in the movies, so it was OK.
Babelistan
13-12-2006, 13:16
At least the Jedi have limits.

Of course, Darth Plagueis the Wise was a bit edgy... he had a lot of power.

But he didn't APPEAR in the movies, so it was OK.

yes and he was probaly darth sidious' master (I think, don't know for a fact.)
Minaris
13-12-2006, 13:18
yes and he was probaly darth sidious' master (I think, don't know for a fact.)

That would make sense.
Peepelonia
13-12-2006, 13:21
Saaaay whats that funny smell?



Ohh yeah Geek!:eek:
Minaris
13-12-2006, 13:22
Saaaay whats that funny smell?



Ohh yeah Geek!:eek:

*Peepelonia is smote by Teh God(z)*

You were saying?
Babelistan
13-12-2006, 13:26
Saaaay whats that funny smell?



Ohh yeah Geek!:eek:

I might be a geek, but you reek! (sorry I just HAD to)
Ifreann
13-12-2006, 13:28
At least the Jedi have limits.

Of course, Darth Plagueis the Wise was a bit edgy... he had a lot of power.

But he didn't APPEAR in the movies, so it was OK.

I don't think the Q were in any of the movies......
Delator
13-12-2006, 13:40
Still wondering if anyone can answer my question. :p
Risottia
13-12-2006, 13:50
Oh my. I voted in another ST/SW thread.

My nerdiness is matched only by the nerdiness of this forum.
Babelistan
13-12-2006, 14:28
Oh my. I voted in another ST/SW thread.

My nerdiness is matched only by the nerdiness of this forum.

if you are a nerd be proud of it.
Neo Azeroth
13-12-2006, 14:37
As much of a fan of Star Wars as I am I'd have to say that Q would beat the crap out of any Jedi/Sith.
Non Aligned States
13-12-2006, 14:40
I don't think the Q were in any of the movies......

Because unless they were typecast as villains...no wait. That wouldn't work. A Q as a villain means they win.

Maybe if it was typecast as a victim...but that doesn't work either.

I don't really think there's a role for a Q in any movie length show. At least not with a major role. Cameos maybe, but that's about it I think. Anything more would mean "*snaps fingers* I win" moments.
Ifreann
13-12-2006, 14:42
Still wondering if anyone can answer my question. :p

Which is?
IDF
13-12-2006, 14:56
Ah, but which actor was the first to play three different species??

Mark Lenard (RIP) :(

He played the Romulan Commander in "Balance of Terror." He was a Vulcan when he played Sarek, Spock's father in "Babel" and numerous movies. He then played the Klingon Commander in "Star Trek: The Motion Picture."

While Jeffrey Combs is now one of many actors who has played several characters. Who doesn't love his roles of Weyoun, Brunt, and Shran? (He had some smaller roles too)
Dzanisimo
13-12-2006, 15:13
Except the Yuuzhon Vong did it with a fairly substantial war machine one would imagine. An individual Q could do the same thing and more just by snapping his fingers. And he could be anywhere, anytime whenever he wanted.

That makes things a bit unbalanced one would imagine.

You are right. I was wrong. But then the poll is not entirely objective. I will make a new one.
Orthodox Gnosticism
13-12-2006, 15:18
Admiral Adama would win :)
Talstadt
13-12-2006, 16:43
I say Jedi... just because I can:p
IDF
13-12-2006, 19:42
I say Jedi... just because I can:p
*Q snaps fingers and makes Talstadt disappear*
Delator
13-12-2006, 23:12
Mark Lenard (RIP) :(

He played the Romulan Commander in "Balance of Terror." He was a Vulcan when he played Sarek, Spock's father in "Babel" and numerous movies. He then played the Klingon Commander in "Star Trek: The Motion Picture."

While Jeffrey Combs is now one of many actors who has played several characters. Who doesn't love his roles of Weyoun, Brunt, and Shran? (He had some smaller roles too)

Gah...I forgot about Lenard in ST:1.

I was thinking Marc Alaimo.

Alaimo played several characters in Star Trek: The Next Generation, starting in the first season, including the first Romulan "Commander Tebok" and the first Cardassian "Gul Macet " seen in that series. He also played a poker player who speaks french to Data in the episode Times Arrow. In 1993, Alaimo began playing Gul Dukat in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Gul Dukat was a recurring character, who appeared in 37 episodes of DS9.

But you are most certainly correct! *gives cookie*