NationStates Jolt Archive


Chocolate

Cabra West
12-12-2006, 10:19
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D
Sarkhaan
12-12-2006, 10:25
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too

Best. candy. EVAR!

for a chocolate bar, I go munsons or godiva usually.

Hersheys is only used for smores
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 10:38
Best. candy. EVAR!

for a chocolate bar, I go munsons or godiva usually.

Hersheys is only used for smores

It's good chocolate. Best ever, I'd have my doubts, but very good anyway.
My "best ever" candidate at the moment would be Kinder Bueno:

http://minosimports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kinder%20bueno%20case.jpg

Why on earth is Hershey's such a big seller in the US???
CthulhuFhtagn
12-12-2006, 10:42
Why on earth is Hershey's such a big seller in the US???

Differing tastes. Bitter tasting things are like more in the States than outside them.
The Beautiful Darkness
12-12-2006, 10:46
It's good chocolate. Best ever, I'd have my doubts, but very good anyway.
My "best ever" candidate at the moment would be Kinder Bueno:

http://minosimports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kinder%20bueno%20case.jpg

Drool, I love that stuff. :D
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 10:48
Differing tastes. Bitter tasting things are like more in the States than outside them.

It doesn't taste bitter. I love bitter chocolate.
It doesn't taste of chocolate at all, it simply tastes of artificial flavourings and rancid cocoa butter. And it's got the same texture as sand...
Yaltabaoth
12-12-2006, 10:52
you're not gonna want to believe this but...

i have only one allergy - cocoa

i can handle peanuts, kittens, bees, whatever - i have no hayfever, no asthma, no cancers, no disorders (unless you count channeling Jack The Ripper, but most people don't seem to)...
but i simply can't tolerate any amount of cocoa

to make matters worse, this was a puberty-induced change - until the age of 13 i ate chocolate (though not much) with no problems whatsoever

then i had a REALLY bad easter

my parents didn't give me much candy as a child and i don't have much of a sweet tooth at all these days so i mostly look on it as a blessing - i'm free of the one addiction that afflicts EVERY LAST PERSON I KNOW!

rest assured, there's no resentment at work here :)

though i do have to admit i can still remember the taste
and even on the rare occasions when i accidentally taste some, just before the "oh no, the next 24 hours are *really* gonna suck" stage kicks in, i do enjoy the guilty pleasure of the taste that i just know will hurt so bad any moment now...

my workplace loves putting on cakes for birthdays - and mine is the only one of 33 during the year that *doesn't* have a chocolate cake

but what really gets me is the pity i hear from people
awwww - you poooor thing!

i'm not dying, or even (differently)abled - i just can't eat chocolate!
get some fucking perspective!

the next bulimic who tells me i'm lucky is in for it...
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 10:54
Seriously, it made me sick. :(

You basically summarised every piece of US "candy" I've ever had, and most European (i.e. non-Scandinavian) candy, too.
Sarkhaan
12-12-2006, 10:57
It's good chocolate. Best ever, I'd have my doubts, but very good anyway.
My "best ever" candidate at the moment would be Kinder Bueno:

http://minosimports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kinder%20bueno%20case.jpg

Why on earth is Hershey's such a big seller in the US???
I stand corrected
had that once, when my friend got back from Germany.
I disticntly remember actually moaning after having a bite.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 11:00
You basically summarised every piece of US "candy" I've ever had, and most European (i.e. non-Scandinavian) candy, too.

I have to admit I never consciously tried Scandinavian chocolate
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 11:10
It's good chocolate. Best ever, I'd have my doubts, but very good anyway.
My "best ever" candidate at the moment would be Kinder Bueno:

http://minosimports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kinder%20bueno%20case.jpg

Why on earth is Hershey's such a big seller in the US???

got told to try it,but its not cheap
the only Chocolate i eat, when i do is Cadburys
Boonytopia
12-12-2006, 11:24
Buenos are alright, but they're a bit too sickly sweet for my tastes. I agree on the Hersheys though, it's easily the worst chocolate I've eaten. It hardly tastes like chocolate & it feels like you're eating a mouthful of sand.
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 11:27
I have to admit I never consciously tried Scandinavian chocolate

SoWiBi, who is a German and thus knows chocolate, loves it, so that should be indicative of something.
Harlesburg
12-12-2006, 11:32
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D
Little kids all over Liberated Europe loved Hersheys Chocolate, they can't have been wrong...
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 11:36
Little kids all over Liberated Europe loved Hersheys Chocolate, they can't have been wrong...

Ah, but Ireland didn't need liberating...
Pure Metal
12-12-2006, 11:38
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D

you want these really ;)

http://www.hlj.me.uk/pics/truffles%20101206/images/Truffles!!!!%20101206%20022%20copy.jpg

:D
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 11:40
Ah, but Ireland didn't need liberating...

and we need liberating from them
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 11:44
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D

Hershey's is to chocolate as McDonald's is to fine cuisine. Don't judge american chocolate by the hershey bar. :(
Iztatepopotla
12-12-2006, 11:46
Little kids all over Liberated Europe loved Hersheys Chocolate, they can't have been wrong...

Compared to what they had been eating before...
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 11:57
Hershey's is to chocolate as McDonald's is to fine cuisine. Don't judge american chocolate by the hershey bar. :(

I try not to... but things like that bar of chocolate don't make it any easier, let me tell you.
Gravlen
12-12-2006, 12:09
*Eats some Kinder(tm) chocolate*
*Enjoys*

Mmmm... Chocolate :fluffle:
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 12:13
I try not to... but things like that bar of chocolate don't make it any easier, let me tell you.

If it was at least a Hershey Symphony, that would be something. Basically, that's hershey's premium chocolate bar and it's....well, it's creamier. That's about it. :p

If you want decent U.S. Chocolate, try Dove. I won't call it the best we have, but it's probably the best mass-market american chocolate.
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 12:15
If it was at least a Hershey Symphony, that would be something. Basically, that's hershey's premium chocolate bar and it's....well, it's creamier. That's about it. :p

If you want decent U.S. Chocolate, try Dove. I won't call it the best we have, but it's probably the best mass-market american chocolate.

we get Dove here its not bad
Harlesburg
12-12-2006, 12:18
Compared to what they had been eating before...
Shot down American Airmen?
Harlesburg
12-12-2006, 12:19
Ah, but Ireland didn't need liberating...
And yet Ireland wasn't liberated...
The Potato Factory
12-12-2006, 12:22
My "best ever" candidate at the moment would be Kinder Bueno:

http://minosimports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kinder%20bueno%20case.jpg

I call it the poor man's Ferrero Rocher. It's a good substitute.

I've got a box of German chocolate here, called Toffifee. Good stuff.
The Potato Factory
12-12-2006, 12:24
Hershey's is to chocolate as McDonald's is to fine cuisine. Don't judge american chocolate by the hershey bar. :(

I dunno, McDonald's is working hard. I had a "Deluxe Breakkie Roll" this morning. Bacon, egg, beef, cheese, spicy tomato sauce. Pretty good.
Nobel Hobos
12-12-2006, 12:26
Little kids all over Liberated Europe loved Hersheys Chocolate, they can't have been wrong...

But they very well could have been starving.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 12:27
I call it the poor man's Ferrero Rocher. It's a good substitute.

I've got a box of German chocolate here, called Toffifee. Good stuff.

Ferrero Rocher is nice, but it's got nothing on Amicelli

http://www.worldofsweets.de/out/oxbaseshop/html/0/dyn_images/1/imp_300543.jpg

Or even Rafaello... mmmm....

http://static.flickr.com/23/25393999_738541a2c6_m.jpg
Harlesburg
12-12-2006, 12:30
But they very well could have been starving.
Perhaps, i still find this Hershey bashing unjustified.
Compulsive Depression
12-12-2006, 12:34
I have over £40 of Thornton's chocolates in the corner of the room :D

Sadly they're Christmas presents :(
Delator
12-12-2006, 12:35
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D

Resse's Pieces are made by the Hershey Co....the money went to the same place. :p

I am not a fan of Hershey's chocolate myself...they use too much sugar and not enough cocoa. They make other good products though. Anything with the Reese's name is worthwhile (especially the peanut-butter cups!)...I also like Krakels and Whatchamacallits.

Though it seems that if there is one thing America does do well in terms of candy-bars...it's adding peanut-butter to them. :)
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 12:41
Resse's Pieces are made by the Hershey Co....the money went to the same place. :p

I am not a fan of Hershey's chocolate myself...they use too much sugar and not enough cocoa. They make other good products though. Anything with the Reese's name is worthwhile (especially the peanut-butter cups!)...I also like Krakels and Whatchamacallits.

Though it seems that if there is one thing America does do well in terms of candy-bars...it's adding peanut-butter to them. :)

Indeed. :) Reese's Honey roasted Peanut Butter Cups are worth killing for. Pity they were a limited edition. :(
Wrath and Fire
12-12-2006, 12:45
I have over £40 of Thornton's chocolates in the corner of the room :D

Sadly they're Christmas presents :(


mmm thorntons are pretty good but absolute chocolate heaven would have to be butlers:p
Delator
12-12-2006, 12:46
Indeed. :) Reese's Honey roasted Peanut Butter Cups are worth killing for. Pity they were a limited edition. :(

Indeed... :(

I like all the "experimental" candy bars that are floating around...all these combinations. Reeses especially...White Chocolate peanut butter cups...the big ones with the mixed nuts in them.

It's a good time to be a Reeses fan. :)
Fatura
12-12-2006, 12:47
:rolleyes: Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!! WHENEVER ANYONE I KNOW IS GOING OVERSEAS.... I BEG, BEG, BEG FOR CHOCOLATE. HERSHEY'S IS A DISGRACE.. SO SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO EXPERIENCE IT. ONE A POSITIVE NOTE, NOW YOU REALIZE JUST HOW GOOD YOUR CHOCOLATE IS!!! :) SADLY WHEN I AM PMS.. HERSHEYS IS ALL I HAVE TO TURN TO.
Nobel Hobos
12-12-2006, 13:44
Perhaps, i still find this Hershey bashing unjustified.

I've never tried it to be honest. I'm just reacting against the "blood-spattered GI's giving up their hard-earned chocolate ration" patriotic BS angle on why Hersheys may or may not be good chocolate.

No, wait, I have tried Hershey's! Is there a product called "Milk Bar" or "Milky Bar" or some such? It was pale and far too sweet. Don't remember it being sandy at all.

Even if my memory is correct, it wasn't the worst chocolate I ever ate. That would be the concoction me and my mates cooked up, using Copha (from coconuts I now know) on the presumption that it was Cocoa Butter.
We were poor, the ingredients were cheap, and we thought we were on the path to eternal chocolate satisfaction. We weren't even afraid of calories, but alas ... there's more to chocolate than bunging the ingredients together and cooking them up.
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 13:51
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D

Heheh I have had a lot of choc from all over the place and I can say without fear of any contradiction at all:rolleyes: that British choc is the best, the very best, nobdy and I mean nobody makes choc as good as cadbury's
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 13:53
Heheh I have had a lot of choc from all over the place and I can say without fear of any contradiction at all:rolleyes: that British choc is the best, the very best, nobdy and I mean nobody makes choc as good as cadbury's

If you think that having grit in your teeth is part of the enjoyment of chocolate, that is.
Compulsive Depression
12-12-2006, 13:53
No, wait, I have tried Hershey's! Is there a product called "Milk Bar" or "Milky Bar" or some such? It was pale and far too sweet. Don't remember it being sandy at all.
The Milkybars are on me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkybar)!

I don't think Nestlé are related to Hershey's, though. There may be two different Milkybars.

Edit:
If you think that having grit in your teeth is part of the enjoyment of chocolate, that is.
I wouldn't say Cadbury's is gritty. More oily.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 13:56
The Milkybars are on me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkybar)!

I don't think Nestlé are related to Hershey's, though. There may be two different Milkybars.

Edit:

I wouldn't say Cadbury's is gritty. More oily.

Interesting... never heard of that one before.

Cadbury is gritty, although not quite as sandy as Hersheys. Or at least noticably grittier than what I was used to.
And it tastes too much of vanilla flavourings, and not enough of cocoa.
Nobel Hobos
12-12-2006, 14:05
Oh, we've got Cadbury's in Australia. Cadbury's is always too sweet, even the dark varieties.

Perhaps it was called a Hershey Bar. Consistency is foreplay: you don't taste the stuff until it melts on your tongue.

For that matter, the taste is foreplay. It's the cocoa alkaloids that win your heart. If you mixed cocoa with mace and asbestos and ate that a few times, you'd get to like it.
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 14:07
The Milkybars are on me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkybar)!

I don't think Nestlé are related to Hershey's, though. There may be two different Milkybars.

Edit:

I wouldn't say Cadbury's is gritty. More oily.

Nestlé cames from Vevey, Switzerland

i dont like White Chocolate ,but they make good Dark Chocolate

as for Cadbury's i'am starting to find it don't taste the same
The Potato Factory
12-12-2006, 14:26
I like Cadbury's :( It's not the best chocolate in the universe, but there's nothing particularly bad about it.
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 14:28
If you think that having grit in your teeth is part of the enjoyment of chocolate, that is.


Hah yeah of course, real cocoa has a gritty chalky texture, so yep it is a mark of it's quality:p
Kiryu-shi
12-12-2006, 14:30
The good thing about growing up eating hersheys chocolate as the standard in chocolate is that when I taste good chocolate, I'll appreciate it even more. Hopefully.
Jello Biafra
12-12-2006, 14:30
Eh. Hershey's is fine, but no, it isn't the best.

No, wait, I have tried Hershey's! Is there a product called "Milk Bar" or "Milky Bar" or some such? It was pale and far too sweet. Don't remember it being sandy at all.Milky Way?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way_bar
Compulsive Depression
12-12-2006, 14:39
I like Cadbury's :( It's not the best chocolate in the universe, but there's nothing particularly bad about it.

Asda Extra Special 76% cocoa Belgian cooking chocolate: Very tasty, 69p for 150g (46p/100g).

Cadbury's Dairy Milk: OK-ish, £1.35 for 250g (54p/100g).

No contest... It's not exactly like-for-like, but Bournville doesn't fare well either.
Cooking chocolate is a bargain compared to confectionary chocolate :)
Teh_pantless_hero
12-12-2006, 14:55
And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.


Cadbury is a delicacy chocolate in the US. But I had a bar of it the other day, it tasted like death compared to your average Hershey's bar.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 15:14
Hah yeah of course, real cocoa has a gritty chalky texture, so yep it is a mark of it's quality:p

And real good chocolate has cocoa ground so fine that you don't feel the grains. Makes for immensly increased taste, too. :D
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 15:16
Cadbury is a delicacy chocolate in the US. But I had a bar of it the other day, it tasted like death compared to your average Hershey's bar.

Well, this particular Hershey's bar that I got to taste, or rather to chew today did taste like something worse than death...
Creepy Lurker
12-12-2006, 15:21
Hm.

The worst chocholate I ever had was this stuff...

http://www.hotelchocolat.co.uk//images/articles/240007L.jpg

I'll stick to the 85% stuff.
Smunkeeville
12-12-2006, 15:27
Okay, I like Hershey's I haven't found it to be gritty or fatty........and now I am confused.

Can you Hershey's haters recommend a chocolate bar that I can try to compare?
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 15:35
Why on earth is Hershey's such a big seller in the US???
Same reason why Bud is such a big seller in the US.

The poor things have never had a chance to find out what real chocolate and real beer tastes like.
Pure Metal
12-12-2006, 15:37
Okay, I like Hershey's I haven't found it to be gritty or fatty........and now I am confused.

Can you Hershey's haters recommend a chocolate bar that I can try to compare?

Galaxy (http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/galaxy_400g_bar.jpg), Lindt (http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/Lind_Chocolate_150g.jpg)
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 15:40
And real good chocolate has cocoa ground so fine that you don't feel the grains. Makes for immensly increased taste, too. :D

Nope you're just wrong, why? Becuase you just are thats why!:p
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 15:40
Galaxy (http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/galaxy_400g_bar.jpg), Lindt (http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/Lind_Chocolate_150g.jpg)
haven't tried Galaxy, but Lindt is an abomination 'cause it uses vegetable fat along with cocoa butter.
True chocolate should only use cocoa butter. Vegetable fat is cheap, nasty and oily.
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 15:42
haven't tried Galaxy, but Lindt is an abomination 'cause it uses vegetable fat along with cocoa butter.
True chocolate should only use cocoa butter. Vegetable fat is cheap, nasty and oily.

Yeah Galaxy is the best choc actualy, because it is made by Cadbury!
I V Stalin
12-12-2006, 15:42
Ahem. (www.greenandblacks.com)

Fourth page and this still hasn't been mentioned? What's wrong with you people?
Pure Metal
12-12-2006, 15:44
haven't tried Galaxy, but Lindt is an abomination 'cause it uses vegetable fat along with cocoa butter.
True chocolate should only use cocoa butter. Vegetable fat is cheap, nasty and oily.

lindt has a patented & unique process of making chocolate..... i don't care what's in it because its so fucking good!
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 15:46
Ahem. (www.greenandblacks.com)

Fourth page and this still hasn't been mentioned? What's wrong with you people?

never heard of it

and can someone send me some US Chocolate bars to try
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 15:47
Yeah Galaxy is the best choc actualy, because it is made by Cadbury!
If it's made by Cadbury in England, then it suffers the same abominating corruption as Lindt.
All English chocolate use vegetable fat in their chocolates.
Makes them taste revolting. It leaves an unpleasant oily aftertaste in one's mouth.

Worse chocolate I ever had was in Tibet. Took one small bite and nearly retched. Threw it away - which is a first for me. I've never thrown chocolate away before.
To put this 'chocolate-so-foul-I-could-not-eat-it' into perspective: I once found a handmade swiss praline chocolate in my wardrobe that had been there for 4 months and gone very mouldy.
I scrapped the mould off and ate it.

Even that tasted better than the Tibetan chocolate.
Smunkeeville
12-12-2006, 15:47
never heard of it

and can someone send me some US Chocolate bars to try

I went to that site and found a store near my home that sells those.......

does anyone who hates Hershey's think they are good?
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 15:49
Same reason why Bud is such a big seller in the US.

The poor things have never had a chance to find out what real chocolate and real beer tastes like.

Have you ever tried that Youngs Choc Stout?


Ummm ummm:D
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 15:49
I went to that site and found a store near my home that sells those.......

does anyone who hates Hershey's think they are good?

Personally, I find it too sweet with a too honey-ish flavour to it. I prefer my chocs bitter.

That said it's far superior to Hershey's.
No comparison at all.
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 15:51
never heard of it

and can someone send me some US Chocolate bars to try

Never heard of it??? Man its fookin' luvly!



Eerrrrr is it too late to change my mind?
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 15:51
Have you ever tried that Youngs Choc Stout?


Ummm ummm:D
nope, but a shop here sells it. Every time I see it, I consider it but the price kinda puts me off (being a 'specialty' imported beer, it's damn expensive).
I might go for it next time I'm in there.
Peepelonia
12-12-2006, 15:52
If it's made by Cadbury in England, then it suffers the same abominating corruption as Lindt.
All English chocolate use vegetable fat in their chocolates.
Makes them taste revolting. It leaves an unpleasant oily aftertaste in one's mouth.

Worse chocolate I ever had was in Tibet. Took one small bite and nearly retched. Threw it away - which is a first for me. I've never thrown chocolate away before.
To put this 'chocolate-so-foul-I-could-not-eat-it' into perspective: I once found a handmade swiss praline chocolate in my wardrobe that had been there for 4 months and gone very mouldy.
I scrapped the mould off and ate it.

Even that tasted better than the Tibetan chocolate.


Nope wrong, milk yeah, veg oil nope
Compulsive Depression
12-12-2006, 15:52
All English chocolate use vegetable fat in their chocolates.
Makes them taste revolting. It leaves an unpleasant oily aftertaste in one's mouth.

Thornton's don't! I just checked the ingredients list :p (I didn't think Lindt did, either, but I don't have a box to check.)

Oh, chocolate doesn't go mouldy. It blooms (I think it's because the ingredients seperate out) but that's not mould and not, AFAIK, bad for you in any way.
Pure Metal
12-12-2006, 15:55
Yeah Galaxy is the best choc actualy, because it is made by Cadbury!

its made by Mars (a la mars bars) iirc
Smunkeeville
12-12-2006, 15:56
Personally, I find it too sweet with a too honey-ish flavour to it. I prefer my chocs bitter.

That said it's far superior to Hershey's.
No comparison at all.

oh........I don't like bitter chocolate.

I had some of that before, it was horrible.
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 15:57
I went to that site and found a store near my home that sells those.......

does anyone who hates Hershey's think they are good?

there are no shops in Australia i'am sad to say
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 16:00
Thornton's don't! I just checked the ingredients list :p (I didn't think Lindt did, either, but I don't have a box to check.)

Oh, chocolate doesn't go mouldy. It blooms (I think it's because the ingredients seperate out) but that's not mould and not, AFAIK, bad for you in any way.
believe me, this chocolate was mouldy. It had green fur on it.
Imperial isa
12-12-2006, 16:01
Never heard of it??? Man its fookin' luvly!



Eerrrrr is it too late to change my mind?

not in Australia
I V Stalin
12-12-2006, 16:05
Never heard of it??? Man its fookin' luvly!



Eerrrrr is it too late to change my mind?
Nah, I'll let you if you're changing to G&B. Have you tried the butterscotch flavour? http://www.vwenthusiast.com/yabbse/attachments/homer-drool.gif
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 16:11
Personally, I find it too sweet with a too honey-ish flavour to it. I prefer my chocs bitter.

That said it's far superior to Hershey's.
No comparison at all.

I always thought it was a bit caramelly.... but I liked that. It's very sweet, though, so if you want bitter chocolate, I'd recommend one made by Butlers.
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 16:13
oh........I don't like bitter chocolate.

I had some of that before, it was horrible.
Someone starting out with wine will find Syrah/Shiraz just too tannic and astringent. But if they start with the sweeter wines, they'll soon develop a taste for wine and work their way up to Syrah.

Bitter chocolate's the same: It's something you need to work up towards. Stick with chocs below 70% and work your way up. Believe me, it's worth the time and effort!


Anyway, here's a site you should check out:
http://www.chocosphere.com/

A US choc site selling European chocolates.
Of the ones they sell, which I've tried:
I'd totally recommend Café-Tasse (Belgium).

Côte d'Or (Belgium) is also bloody nice.
Valrohna (France) isn't bad.
I find Venchi (Italian) a little sweet for my tastes but otherwise very good.
Hachez (Germany) is nice.
Villars (Switzerland) is bloody nice.
Lindt's not my cup of tea, but most people like it.
Reber (Germany) is good.
Castelain (France) is also good, but sells mainly dark chocolate so you prob wouldn't be interested.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 16:15
...
Reber (Germany) is good.

Reber Mozartkugeln.... *drools*
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 16:18
I always thought it was a bit caramelly.... but I liked that. It's very sweet, though, so if you want bitter chocolate, I'd recommend one made by Butlers.
I think I may have tried it, and it's good.
I'm very lucky here: The nearest supermarket has an aisle devoted to chocolate. It has well over 100 different types (mostly from Europe), ranging right up to 99% Bitter.
That was just a little too bitter for me when eaten on it's own. Nice with strong espresso, though. Would be fantastic for cooking. Speaking of which, another supermarket I went in the other day had 100% Belgian bitter chocolate for cooking.
Might try that one day...
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 16:21
Reber Mozartkugeln.... *drools*
tell me about it. I was in the supermarket today and they had a display devoted solely to Mozartkugeln.
Man, did it take me a looonnngggg time to tear myself away from there.
Only reason I didn't buy any was I'd already bought 3 boxes of Belgian chocs already.
Not all for me, obviously.

The smallest box is a present.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 16:25
tell me about it. I was in the supermarket today and they had a display devoted solely to Mozartkugeln.
Man, did it take me a looonnngggg time to tear myself away from there.
Only reason I didn't buy any was I'd already bought 3 boxes of Belgian chocs already.
Not all for me, obviously.

The smallest box is a present.

There's something equally delicious, from former East Germany, Hallorenkugeln.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Hallorenkugeln-2.jpg/180px-Hallorenkugeln-2.jpg

They are lighter than Mozartkugeln, and without the pistaccio marzipan in the middle, but they are highly addictive.
I have to try and find some when I get home, but they're not available everywhere in West Germany. :(
Demented Hamsters
12-12-2006, 16:31
There's something equally delicious, from former East Germany, Hallorenkugeln.

They are lighter than Mozartkugeln, and without the pistaccio marzipan in the middle, but they are highly addictive.
I have to try and find some when I get home, but they're not available everywhere in West Germany. :(
Will try to remember them when I go to Germany.
My g/f is German and raves about German sweet shops.
We're making tentative plans to go there for Xmas, '07.
Assuming we're still together them, obviously.
Hopefully.
For the sake of German chocolate, if nothing else.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 17:33
Ok, a colleague of mine is just back from the US, and she brought chocolate for the team.

Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D
that's because Hershey's is the Chocolate's version of Fast Food. if you want good chocolate try Ghirardelli (http://www.ghirardelli.com/)

BTW, yes, I like the PB M&M and Reeces Peices too.
Khadgar
12-12-2006, 17:42
I call it the poor man's Ferrero Rocher. It's a good substitute.

I've got a box of German chocolate here, called Toffifee. Good stuff.

I've had Rocher chocolate, honestly I wasn't that impressed. Then again I seem to lack the taste buds for finer foods.
Rameria
12-12-2006, 17:42
Hershey's? Meh. Not very good at all; best when used in smores. Ghirardelli and Scharffen Berger are respectable though.

Have you ever been a Salon du Chocolat (http://www.chocoland.com/home.php?titre=1&id_code=1)?
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2006, 19:19
I'd like to clear something up. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE CHOCOLATE (since it's not made with cocoa, it can't be chocolate)!!! Also, while I don't mind the taste of a regular Hershey bar, I prefer Hershey's Symphony bar.
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2006, 19:20
Indeed. :) Reese's Honey roasted Peanut Butter Cups are worth killing for. Pity they were a limited edition. :(

QFT.
Eve Online
12-12-2006, 19:21
I like my women the way I like my coffee and chocolate - dark and bitter.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-12-2006, 22:32
the next bulimic who tells me i'm lucky is in for it... I'm not bulimic but you're still lucky. And unlucky at the same time, so I guess it balances out. :p
Smunkeeville
12-12-2006, 22:39
you're not gonna want to believe this but...

i have only one allergy - cocoa

i can handle peanuts, kittens, bees, whatever - i have no hayfever, no asthma, no cancers, no disorders (unless you count channeling Jack The Ripper, but most people don't seem to)...
but i simply can't tolerate any amount of cocoa

to make matters worse, this was a puberty-induced change - until the age of 13 i ate chocolate (though not much) with no problems whatsoever

then i had a REALLY bad easter

my parents didn't give me much candy as a child and i don't have much of a sweet tooth at all these days so i mostly look on it as a blessing - i'm free of the one addiction that afflicts EVERY LAST PERSON I KNOW!

rest assured, there's no resentment at work here :)

though i do have to admit i can still remember the taste
and even on the rare occasions when i accidentally taste some, just before the "oh no, the next 24 hours are *really* gonna suck" stage kicks in, i do enjoy the guilty pleasure of the taste that i just know will hurt so bad any moment now...

my workplace loves putting on cakes for birthdays - and mine is the only one of 33 during the year that *doesn't* have a chocolate cake

but what really gets me is the pity i hear from people
awwww - you poooor thing!

i'm not dying, or even (differently)abled - i just can't eat chocolate!
get some fucking perspective!

the next bulimic who tells me i'm lucky is in for it...
I can somewhat sympathize, I can't have wheat (among other things) and I hear almost every time someone finds out "oh, I would just die"

seriously? it's food, get a grip

"Do you want a cookie?"
"no thank you"
"oh, just one, it's okay to cheat on your diet with one cookie"
"actually I can't have any, they make me sick"
"really?!"
"yeah, I am on a gluten free diet, no wheat"
"so you can't have pasta? or brownies? or cookies? or crackers? or hamburgers? or hotdogs? or .........."
"nope"
"OMG! poor you! I would just die if I couldn't eat that stuff"

I keep trying really hard not to say "well, hand me a knife and I will slit my wrists for you"
Soviestan
12-12-2006, 22:41
I think American chocolate is far better than any European junk. America has the best food period in the whole damn world. America FTW!
Wild Orchid
12-12-2006, 22:49
I like my women the way I like my coffee and chocolate - dark and bitter.

Chocolate, coffee and men...
Some things are so much better rich!
;)
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 23:07
I'd like to clear something up. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE CHOCOLATE (since it's not made with cocoa, it can't be chocolate)!!! Also, while I don't mind the taste of a regular Hershey bar, I prefer Hershey's Symphony bar.

It's made with cocoa butter, so yes it is chocolate.
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 23:09
I think American chocolate is far better than any European junk. America has the best food period in the whole damn world. America FTW!

Please tell me you're being sarcastic...
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 23:12
It's made with cocoa butter, so yes it is chocolate.

Jello is made from gelatin which comes from animal bones, but that doesn't make it meat.

Suntan lotion is made with cocoa butter. That doesn't make it chocolate.

I have to concur with Gun Manufacturers; White Chocolate isn't chocolate. *nod*
New Xero Seven
12-12-2006, 23:14
Mmm... Ferrero Rocher....
Cabra West
12-12-2006, 23:15
Jello is made from gelatin which comes from animal bones, but that doesn't make it meat.

Suntan lotion is made with cocoa butter. That doesn't make it chocolate.

I have to concur with Gun Manufacturers; White Chocolate isn't chocolate. *nod*

mmmmmmmm... chocolate suntan lotion.
The Psyker
12-12-2006, 23:16
Jello is made from gelatin which comes from animal bones, but that doesn't make it meat.


No, that makes it animal bones:)
The Pacifist Womble
12-12-2006, 23:45
Peanut butter M&Ms (I asked for those) - yummy
Reese's Pieces (again, my request. The funny thing is, I normally can't stand peanut butter, but.... ) - yummy, too
Then she also brought a huge bar of Hershey's. I tried that for the first time in my life today and .... what the hell is wrong with you people in the USA??? Why do you not only allow something as horrible as that to be labled as chocolate, but allow the producer of this abomination to stay in business???
It's gritty, it's fatty, it doesn't even taste of chocolate, only of artificial flavourings, mostly rancid butter. And there was me thinking Cadbury was as low as it can get in the civilised world.

Seriously, it made me sick. :(

Can't wait till I get home to Germany next Monday to get some real chocolate again. :D
I agree, Hersheys is shit. It's good that in recent years in Ireland a greater range of chocolate beyond Cadbury's has become avaliable to the public.
The Pacifist Womble
12-12-2006, 23:47
It's good chocolate. Best ever, I'd have my doubts, but very good anyway.
My "best ever" candidate at the moment would be Kinder Bueno:

http://minosimports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kinder%20bueno%20case.jpg
Seriously? What about Green & Black's 70%???
The Pacifist Womble
13-12-2006, 00:05
You basically summarised every piece of US "candy" I've ever had, and most European (i.e. non-Scandinavian) candy, too.
Scandinavia makes chocolate?

Or even Rafaello... mmmm....

http://static.flickr.com/23/25393999_738541a2c6_m.jpg
That doesn't appear to be chocolate.
The Potato Factory
13-12-2006, 01:27
Suntan lotion is made with cocoa butter. That doesn't make it chocolate.

Great, now all I can think about is that ad with Cristiano Ronaldo.

"Is this cocoa butter organic?"
JuNii
13-12-2006, 01:30
I can somewhat sympathize, I can't have wheat (among other things) and I hear almost every time someone finds out "oh, I would just die"

seriously? it's food, get a grip

"Do you want a cookie?"
"no thank you"
"oh, just one, it's okay to cheat on your diet with one cookie"
"actually I can't have any, they make me sick"
"really?!"
"yeah, I am on a gluten free diet, no wheat"
"so you can't have pasta? or brownies? or cookies? or crackers? or hamburgers? or hotdogs? or .........."
"nope"
"OMG! poor you! I would just die if I couldn't eat that stuff"

I keep trying really hard not to say "well, hand me a knife and I will slit my wrists for you"
you should've replied
"well, sorry, but I would die if I DID eat that stuff."
*Then Grin*
"It's a good thing Human Brains keep me going... say, wanna come over for dinner?"
Soviestan
13-12-2006, 02:34
Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

No, I'm dead serious. The rest of the world ain't got nothing on American food and sweets.
The Psyker
13-12-2006, 02:37
No, I'm dead serious. The rest of the world ain't got nothing on American food and sweets.

:confused: :weneedaraisedeyebrowsmilie:
Demented Hamsters
13-12-2006, 03:07
I've had Rocher chocolate, honestly I wasn't that impressed. Then again I seem to lack the taste buds for finer foods.
If by Rocher, you mean Ferrero Roche then you're not alone. It's not good chocolate. Far too much sugar in it.
People buy because they think it's good.

Substandard chocolate but excellent marketing.
The Tribes Of Longton
13-12-2006, 03:51
http://www.dfp.com.ph/modules/osC/images/32310-%20LINDT%20EXCELLENCE.jpg
I know there's an 85% one, but that bar is absolutely gorgeous :drool:
Gun Manufacturers
14-12-2006, 08:00
It's made with cocoa butter, so yes it is chocolate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_chocolate

"As white chocolate does not contain cocoa solids or cocoa mass, it does not meet the standards to be called chocolate in many countries. In the United States, since 2004, white chocolate needs to be at least 20% (by weight) cocoa butter, at least 14% total milk solids, and less than 55% sweeteners such as sugar. Before this date, US firms needed temporary marketing permits to sell this cocoa solids-free chocolate. The European Union has adopted similar standards: white chocolate needs to contain not less than 20% cocoa butter and not less than 14% dry milk solids.

Some "white chocolate" is made with vegetable fat and not derived from cocoa. Vegetable fat derived white chocolate is white in color, whereas cocoa butter derived white chocolate is ivory colored."

http://www.joyofbaking.com/WhiteChocolate.html

"Officially white chocolate cannot be called "chocolate" because it does not contain chocolate liquor. Good white chocolate contains cocoa butter, sugar, milk solids, vanilla, and lecithin. Make sure when buying white chocolate that it contains cocoa butter as some inferior brands contain vegetable fat."

http://www.foodreference.com/html/artwhitechocolate.html

"White chocolate originates from the cocoa (cacao) plant, but it is not 'chocolate.' According to the FDA, to be called 'chocolate' a product must contain chocolate liquor, which is what gives it the biter intense chocolate flavor (and color) to dark and milk chocolates.

White chocolate contains cocoa butter, milk solids, sugar, lecithin and flavorings (usually including vanilla). Cocoa butter is the fat from cocoa beans, extracted from the cocoa beans during the process of making chocolate and cocoa powder. Cocoa butter has very little 'chocolate' flavor.

Cocoa butter is one of the ingredients used to make real chocolate, it is gives chocolate the ability to remain solid at room temperature, yet melt easily in the mouth.

Cocoa butter is one of the most stable fats known, containing natural antioxidants that prevent rancidity and give it a storage life of 2 to 5 years. It is used for its smooth texture in foods (including chocolate) and in cosmetics and soaps."

Many sourced and many countries (including the US) disagree with you on that.
IL Ruffino
14-12-2006, 08:17
Why on earth is Hershey's such a big seller in the US???

Weeeeeeeellllllll...

I don't know. I buy my chocolate from this place in Philly, or I just go to the store and buy some Lindt.

Hershey, the original factory, that still runs, and the entire tourism kingdom they made, is only about 45 minutes away from me.. They name the town Hershey, the street lights are huge hershey kisses, the place smells like chocolate, and there is a private school, that from what I hear, is uber-nice, unlike their chocolate.. :p

They made an amusement park, arena, and concert thing right next to the factory.. perhaps they're bad at chocolate, but good at marketing?

They have some nice rides at that there park. *nods*

Oh, I think there's a zoo, too.

*pats self on back for not even coming close to answering the qeustion*
Cabra West
14-12-2006, 08:48
Weeeeeeeellllllll...

I don't know. I buy my chocolate from this place in Philly, or I just go to the store and buy some Lindt.

Hershey, the original factory, that still runs, and the entire tourism kingdom they made, is only about 45 minutes away from me.. They name the town Hershey, the street lights are huge hershey kisses, the place smells like chocolate, and there is a private school, that from what I hear, is uber-nice, unlike their chocolate.. :p

They made an amusement park, arena, and concert thing right next to the factory.. perhaps they're bad at chocolate, but good at marketing?

They have some nice rides at that there park. *nods*

Oh, I think there's a zoo, too.

*pats self on back for not even coming close to answering the qeustion*

A chocolate zoo??? :eek:
Maraque
14-12-2006, 09:03
Godiva FTW!
Taki o Autahi
14-12-2006, 09:50
I really dislike Nestle, but damn...found a grocery store that imports Lion bars (and, having one now)....much, MUCH better than just about anything else I've found.


never heard of it

and can someone send me some US Chocolate bars to try

I'd be happy to do so, if only I could have you send me some McEwan's Scotch Ale...can't get it here anymore, but can't have it shipped in, either.
Gaithersburg
14-12-2006, 10:01
A chocolate zoo??? :eek:

Hershey is a big attraction in my area. Lots of schools have their end of the year trips at its theme park. Think of it like a little Disney world, but less kitsch and more realistic.
IL Ruffino
14-12-2006, 15:05
Hershey is a big attraction in my area. Lots of schools have their end of the year trips at its theme park. Think of it like a little Disney world, but less kitsch and more realistic.

*nods*

Same, and true.
Edwardis
14-12-2006, 15:34
Nothing beats dark chocolate or chocolate with peanut butter, no matter where it's from.

And while I'm on here and no on knows who I am:

People in Canonsburg need to get over themselves: Sarris does not taste like a bit of heaven.
Gun Manufacturers
14-12-2006, 18:20
Nothing beats dark chocolate or chocolate with peanut butter, no matter where it's from.


I'll agree with the second part of that statement. Especially if the peanut butter is crunchy.
Edwardis
14-12-2006, 18:21
I'll agree with the second part of that statement. Especially if the peanut butter is crunchy.

Did you ever have JIF's chocolate peanut butter? Oh, it was a foretaste of heaven. I was very upset when they stopped making it.
Gun Manufacturers
14-12-2006, 18:28
Did you ever have JIF's chocolate peanut butter? Oh, it was a foretaste of heaven. I was very upset when they stopped making it.

No, regrettably I missed trying it. Have you seen this? http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_specialty_101.html

I don't know if it's any good, but it might be worth a try.
Edwardis
14-12-2006, 18:29
No, regrettably I missed trying it. Have you seen this? http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_specialty_101.html

I don't know if it's any good, but it might be worth a try.

No, but I'll have to look for it.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
14-12-2006, 18:52
No, regrettably I missed trying it. Have you seen this? http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_specialty_101.html

I don't know if it's any good, but it might be worth a try.
ZOMG. *faints from imagined deliriously good taste*
IL Ruffino
14-12-2006, 19:02
ZOMG. *faints from imagined deliriously good taste*

*faints too*
Keljustan
14-12-2006, 20:12
My favorite is this Swedish mint crocant(?) chocolate.

http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/marabou-mint-chocolate-24318.jpg?1161692494

Fazerin Sininen from Finland is great too.

http://www.karlfazer.com/finnish/pics/sininen_uusi_vanha.jpg