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Fassigen
12-12-2006, 01:16
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 01:17
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one pr have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

Then how will they arrest them? :p
JuNii
12-12-2006, 01:18
Then how will they arrest them? :p

perhaps they don't "Arrest" them... :(
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 01:18
Then how will they arrest them? :p

I don't think that's funny at all, especially seeing as Nigeria executes people for being gay.
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:19
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

I always got the impression that everything made you hate the world outside scandinavia.
Potarius
12-12-2006, 01:19
Something like this coming out of Nigeria doesn't surprise me in the least.

A real shithole full of worthless thieves, scam artists, and an even more worthless government.
Confoozled dolphins
12-12-2006, 01:20
Like internet pirating, I'm sure people would find a way to pull off communication.

yeah... how ARE they going to arrest them, hm?
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 01:21
I don't think that's funny at all, especially seeing as Nigeria executes people for being gay.

Well, I would call that 'associating', wouldn't you? :p
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:21
Something like this coming out of Nigeria doesn't surprise me in the least.

A real shithole full of worthless thieves, scam artists, and an even more worthless government.

Nice.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 01:22
perhaps they don't "Arrest" them... :(

What, they shoot them? I'd certainly call that associating. :p
Potarius
12-12-2006, 01:22
Nice.

Yeah, because all of those Nigerian e-mail scams and stock market embezzlements are just figments of our collective imagination.
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 01:22
I always got the impression that everything made you hate the world outside scandinavia.

"... that I really hate..."

So, while true that I tend to think you people suck, there are things that make me want to hurt you.

/Meh, some parts of Western Europe are OK. Those and Canada. Canada's benign.

For those less perceptive of you, this is not meant - it's an exasperated joke.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
12-12-2006, 01:23
Boys will be boys, and Nigerians will be bat-fuck insane. I can imagine a bunch of Police wandering the streets in hazmat suits, on the look out for anyone possibly infected with the "ghey."
Ariddia
12-12-2006, 01:24
Bloody hell... How very... enlightened of them. :(

This is on the federal level, then, not just in the States under Sharia law?

Nice.

Just ignore xenophobic morons.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 01:25
What, they shoot them? I'd certainly call that associating. :p

except after being shot, (btw, that may not count as HUMAN Contact.) they won't be Gay's anymore... but a corpse.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 01:25
Boys will be boys, and Nigerians will be bat-fuck insane. I can imagine a bunch of Police wandering the streets in hazmat suits, on the look out for anyone possibly infected with the "ghey."

I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. :)
Potarius
12-12-2006, 01:26
Just ignore xenophobic morons.

How nice. Not very subtle, but nice. You of all people should know that I'm hardly xenophobic.
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:27
Yeah, because all of those Nigerian e-mail scams and stock market embezzlements are just figments of our collective imagination.

Right so the impoverished starving masses in Nigeria or the tens of thousands suffering from aids are laying around with lap tops waiting to take your money.

Fass might be a snot, but your fecking bigot asshole.

The entire nation of Nigeria isnt full of thieves just because you were stupid enough to get burned by a scam my seven year old could spot.
Ariddia
12-12-2006, 01:27
Yeah, because all of those Nigerian e-mail scams and stock market embezzlements are just figments of our collective imagination.

Yes, because ALL Nigerians spend their lives crowded round computers sending spam all over the world. National passtime, it is. They have competitions to see who can send the most, send them fastest, and con the most people, don't ya know? Just like all Americans are obese, gun-toting fundamentalist Christian maniacs.

Oh, wait... :rolleyes:
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:28
"... that I really hate..."

So, while true that I tend to think you people suck, there are things that make me want to hurt you.

/Meh, some parts of Western Europe are OK. Those and Canada. Canada's benign.

You couldnt hurt me if your life depended on it.
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 01:29
Fass might be a snot, but your fecking bigot asshole.

Take your flaming to elsewhere, please, or start behaving lest I be forced to ask your posts to be split out from this thread.
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:30
Yes, because ALL Nigerians spend their lives crowded round computers sending spam all over the world. National passtime, it is. They have competitions to see who can send the most, send them fastest, and con the most people, don't ya know? Just like all Americans are obese, gun-toting fundamentalist Christian maniacs.

Oh, wait... :rolleyes:

I resent being called a maniac. -.0
Potarius
12-12-2006, 01:31
Yes, because ALL Nigerians spend their lives crowded round computers sending spam all over the world. National passtime, it is. They have competitions to see who can send the most, send them fastest, and con the most people, don't ya know? Just like all Americans are obese, gun-toting fundamentalist Christian maniacs.

Oh, wait... :rolleyes:

I said that Nigeria was full of people like that. I never once said that all Nigerians were like that. And it's true, too, which is why many scams on the internet are of Nigerian origin.

I'm hoping that you just jumped the gun on this one, lest I assume your reading comprehension needs serious attention.
Ariddia
12-12-2006, 01:32
How nice. Not very subtle, but nice. You of all people should know that I'm hardly xenophobic.

It's 1:30 AM, and I'm about to go and get some sleep. Need to be up early tomorrow for work. You sound familiar, but I can't remember who you are. (Don't take it personally; I don't even recognise my own students after seeing them every week for a whole semester. I quite literally have almost no memory for faces or names. I often get greeted by name in the street by people I don't recognise. Anyway...) If you know me, you know how I react to comments that anyone who doesn't know you would easily interpret as xenophobic.

As evidenced by other people's reactions to them here.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 01:32
I resent being called a maniac. -.0

And I don't tote a gun. ;)
Gorias
12-12-2006, 01:32
adding to my list of reasons why i dont go near africa* or give money to thier charities.

*excluding northren arab parts.
Potarius
12-12-2006, 01:32
Right so the impoverished starving masses in Nigeria or the tens of thousands suffering from aids are laying around with lap tops waiting to take your money.

Fass might be a snot, but your fecking bigot asshole.

The entire nation of Nigeria isnt full of thieves just because you were stupid enough to get burned by a scam my seven year old could spot.

Oh, please...
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:33
Take your flaming to elsewhere, please, or start behaving lest I be forced to ask your posts to be split out from this thread.

Your only cranky because I am right.
Sorry Fass I dont like you, your "clever" banter isnt impressive.
Your obnoxious and self centered, of all the attrocities going on the world you dig up some potential law that MIGHT come to be in Nigeria simply because in some grossly indirect way it relates to you.

That isnt concern for your fellow man, so stop pretending like you care anything about the rest of the human race.
Hamilay
12-12-2006, 01:34
There are no words. None at all.

(except for *coughREGIMECHANGEcough*)
Potarius
12-12-2006, 01:34
Your only cranky because I am right.
Sorry Fass I dont like you, your "clever" banter isnt impressive.
Your obnoxious and self centered, of all the attrocities going on the world you dig up some potential law that MIGHT come to be in Nigeria simply because in some grossly indirect way it relates to you.

That isnt concern for your fellow man, so stop pretending like you care anything about the rest of the human race.

Dude. Lay off.
Transcendant Pilgrims
12-12-2006, 01:37
Hmm. :rolleyes:

This is probably some half baked, idiotic, uneducated attempt at curtailing the spread of AIDS.

Apparently there's also a fad goin' around in Africa, where the prostitutes are purposely becoming obese so as not to 'appear' infected with HIV. Will some benevolant warlord PLEASE take over this continent?
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 01:38
Dude. Lay off.

Just ignore it - I've asked for a split and there's no reason to add more posts to it.
Pepe Dominguez
12-12-2006, 01:41
Sure, they execute gays in Nigeria..

But who are we to decide what is morally acceptable in the context of a foreign culture? Nigeria is a majority Muslim country, and executing gays may be perfectly acceptable within the parameters of Sharii'a law. Isn't Islamic law considered valid in many cases even in Western countries? Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell 130 million Africans that their local laws are inhumane or barbaric?

Given the number of commies on this site, I know there's at least a few people who will agree with the above.. no moral relativists around?
Skibereen
12-12-2006, 01:42
Split for what, all my statements to you Fass are directly related to things you said. I didnt divert anywhere your words didnt go first.

As for calling someone a Bigot who says an entire nation is full of theives...isnt a flame--its statement of fact.
Gorias
12-12-2006, 01:43
fuck it. blow africa to bits. start again. maybe the jews can call it thier new homeland?
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 01:43
Sure, they execute gays in Nigeria..

But who are we to decide what is morally acceptable in the context of a foreign culture? Nigeria is a majority Muslim country, and executing gays may be perfectly acceptable within the parameters of Sharii'a law. Isn't Islamic law considered valid in many cases even in Western countries? Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell 130 million Africans that their local laws are inhumane or barbaric?

Given the number of commies on this site, I know there's at least a few people who will agree with the above.. no moral relativists around?

Please don't troll with strawmen here.
New Xero Seven
12-12-2006, 01:44
That's Nigeria for you, unfortunately.
Swilatia
12-12-2006, 01:45
i hope this doesen't give kaczynski any ideas.
Transcendant Pilgrims
12-12-2006, 01:45
Pepe Dominguez:

Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell 130 million Africans that their local laws are inhumane or barbaric?

Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to execute someone based on orientation?

I wonder if they allow them to leave the country? Or if the same law applies to bi's and lesbians?
Pepe Dominguez
12-12-2006, 01:47
Please don't troll with strawmen here.

You don't think a large number of people stop reading the story the second they approach the word "Africa?" Or that most of the remainder stop reading about the time the word "Nigeria" appears? There's a widespead belief that you don't question the culture of 'unimportant' countries.
Im a ninja
12-12-2006, 01:47
Sure, they execute gays in Nigeria..

But who are we to decide what is morally acceptable in the context of a foreign culture? Nigeria is a majority Muslim country, and executing gays may be perfectly acceptable within the parameters of Sharii'a law. Isn't Islamic law considered valid in many cases even in Western countries? Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell 130 million Africans that their local laws are inhumane or barbaric?

Given the number of commies on this site, I know there's at least a few people who will agree with the above.. no moral relativists around?

I was going to comment on the unfathomable stupidity of that, but im lazy and will let someone else do it.
UpwardThrust
12-12-2006, 01:49
Yes, because ALL Nigerians spend their lives crowded round computers sending spam all over the world. National passtime, it is. They have competitions to see who can send the most, send them fastest, and con the most people, don't ya know? Just like all Americans are obese, gun-toting fundamentalist Christian maniacs.

Oh, wait... :rolleyes:

Now I don't agree with his statement necessarily but where did he make an absolute qualifier?
JuNii
12-12-2006, 01:49
I was going to comment on the unfathomable stupidity of that, but im lazy and will let someone else do it.

He does have a point. if the people vote on those laws (and do give the *ahem* offenders, time to vacate) who are other countries to dictate what they do INSIDE their borders.

now if they started excecuting Gays in other countries... then that's another thing altoghther.
Transcendant Pilgrims
12-12-2006, 01:50
Indeed, communist governments ideally nurture their citizens, not execute them.

It's hard to tax a corpse.
Dobbsworld
12-12-2006, 01:51
It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

You mean, other than absolutely everything else that causes you to merely hold the world outside of Scandinavia in complete and utter contempt?

Heh heh heh.

Just kiddin'. Well, sorta.
Pepe Dominguez
12-12-2006, 01:52
Indeed, communist governments ideally nurture their citizens, not execute them.

It's hard to tax a corpse.

"Ideally" maybe. The actual track record of communist governments doesn't seem to mesh with that ideal too well though.
Im a ninja
12-12-2006, 01:54
He does have a point. if the people vote on those laws (and do give the *ahem* offenders, time to vacate) who are other countries to dictate what they do INSIDE their borders.

now if they started excecuting Gays in other countries... then that's another thing altoghther.

So if we executed all...say.....males by a vote you would have no problem with that? But wed give them tiem to leave first of course.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 01:57
Sure, they execute gays in Nigeria..

But who are we to decide what is morally acceptable in the context of a foreign culture? Nigeria is a majority Muslim country, and executing gays may be perfectly acceptable within the parameters of Sharii'a law. Isn't Islamic law considered valid in many cases even in Western countries? Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell 130 million Africans that their local laws are inhumane or barbaric?


Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell german nazis that they can't kill jews?
JuNii
12-12-2006, 01:59
So if we executed all...say.....males by a vote you would have no problem with that? But wed give them tiem to leave first of course.

if you say WE as in America. I doubt it would pass because of SCOTUS. also the fact that only a handfull of lawmakers are female, getting the necessary votes to pass that law/bill/act/whatever won't happen.
Cromartie Dropout
12-12-2006, 02:07
Hm. I for one think it's absolutely terrible to treat gays the way the Nigerians do. But I have gay friends, and I'm bi, so maybe I'm biased :rolleyes:
Klevn
12-12-2006, 02:08
WHAT THE FLYING F(well you know), it is not wrong to be gay, or know someone who is gay, or talk to someone who is gay, or (oh god help us) be friends with someone who is gay. For the love of.....just somethin else that pi$$es me off about the world.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 02:09
Hm. I for one think it's absolutely terrible to treat gays the way the Nigerians do. But I have gay friends, and I'm bi, so maybe I'm biased :rolleyes:

You'd also be guilty if the Nigerians did indeed passed this law...
Eve Online
12-12-2006, 02:10
Well, the law would come in handy for eliminating political opponents, gay or not.

You see them gathered together in one place, and you open fire.

After they're dead, you say, "well, they were gay!"

Not nice, but expedient for the Nigerian leaders...
Lacadaemon
12-12-2006, 02:12
Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell german nazis that they can't kill jews?

To be fair, that was pretty much the official position of Western Governments until the end of 1939.

Even after that no one went to war with the germans over civil rights.
New Stalinberg
12-12-2006, 02:13
...It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

What about the guy on the left?
http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-02/conan-finland-president.jpg
Cromartie Dropout
12-12-2006, 02:15
You'd also be guilty if the Nigerians did indeed passed this law...

Yup, I know. One of the reasons that I WON'T be going to Nigeria.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 02:18
To be fair, that was pretty much the official position of Western Governments until the end of 1939.

Even after that no one went to war with the germans over civil rights.

And I'm sure that nobody is going to go to war with Nigeria over demonizing homosexuals. But that doesn't make it any different.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-12-2006, 02:54
Canada's benign.

Quoted for truth.
Maraque
12-12-2006, 02:55
Well now I have a reason to put Nigeria on my shitlist.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-12-2006, 03:08
Well now I have a reason to put Nigeria on my shitlist.

You mean other then 409 scammers?
Antikythera
12-12-2006, 03:25
:(
it makes me sad that stuff like this is happening
New Mitanni
12-12-2006, 03:37
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.


I hope this doesn't mean we're going to be flooded with "refugees" from Nigeria now :rolleyes:
Mirkana
12-12-2006, 03:50
This is a law that goes beyond stupidity. This is the stuff you expect in some crazy NS dictatorship, not in a real nation.
Pepe Dominguez
12-12-2006, 03:56
I hope this doesn't mean we're going to be flooded with "refugees" from Nigeria now :rolleyes:

Yes, but.. we usually send African refugees to Maine, which means they'll be drinking Moxie. And of course, according to legend, Moxie cures basically everything, and even knocks the gay right out of you according to some pamphlets from the 1920's. So we simply repatriate the Nigerians after they get that some of that Moxie in the blood - everybody happy. :p

Of course, it would be cheaper and faster to just send some Moxie syrup to Nigeria, but it's probably genetically modified nowadays, and you know how they feel about GM foods in Africa. :(
Gift-of-god
12-12-2006, 04:02
I'm trying to remember if Nigeria has a shitload of oil. If I recall correctly, they have a long and sordid history with Shell, so I assume they do.

And didn't Saddam Hussein attempt to buy yellowcake from Nigeria? There's your WMD connection.

And it's mainly swarthy people who would comprise any collateral damage.

Fass, it is merely a matter of time before this country is 'liberated'.

Unless Halliburton and Co. are already profiting, in which case, the civilised westerners will do nothing.
Edwardis
12-12-2006, 04:49
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

Foolish and sinful.

How can you lead them away from sin if you refuse to interact with them?

"Love the sinner; hate the sin" needs to be spoken less and applied more.
Congo--Kinshasa
12-12-2006, 04:52
So, this would apply to all of Nigeria, or just the areas under sharia? Either way, it's fucked up.
Congo--Kinshasa
12-12-2006, 04:53
I'm trying to remember if Nigeria has a shitload of oil.

It does.
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 05:20
Foolish and sinful.

How can you lead them away from sin if you refuse to interact with them?

"Love the sinner; hate the sin" needs to be spoken less and applied more.

Spare me your religious nonsense, please.
Edwardis
12-12-2006, 05:23
Spare me your religious nonsense, please.

You are free to ignore and I am free to speak.
Fassigen
12-12-2006, 05:25
You are free to ignore and I am free to speak.

And ignore I shall. Kindly do not address me henceforth.
Potarius
12-12-2006, 05:31
May I throw up now, or should I wait until the real shit starts getting posted?
Daistallia 2104
12-12-2006, 05:38
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

Stupid law.

But the article mentioned an equally stupid one:

In July government passed the "sexual deviancy" law making it a criminal offense for two people of the same sex to hold hands, hug, or kiss.

"Sorry dad, I can't hug you 'cause we'd get caught and go to jail."

And as for the question of Nigeria in general, I come in contact regularly with a fair number of Nigerians, seeing as I have several as neighbors and as other aquantances. I have yet to meet one that I liked and who wasn't working some sort of scam. I'm sure there are honest and good people from Nigeria, but....
Potarius
12-12-2006, 05:43
And as for the question of Nigeria in general, I come in contact regularly with a fair number of Nigerians, seeing as I have several as neighbors and as other aquantances. I have yet to meet one that I liked and who wasn't working some sort of scam. I'm sure there are honest and good people from Nigeria, but....

Finally, some motherfucking support.

*hands you the biggest fucking bag of marijuana ever, even bigger than the ones on Club Paradise, and those were fucking HUGE*
New Mitanni
12-12-2006, 06:15
Yes, but.. we usually send African refugees to Maine, which means they'll be drinking Moxie. And of course, according to legend, Moxie cures basically everything, and even knocks the gay right out of you according to some pamphlets from the 1920's. So we simply repatriate the Nigerians after they get that some of that Moxie in the blood - everybody happy. :p

Of course, it would be cheaper and faster to just send some Moxie syrup to Nigeria, but it's probably genetically modified nowadays, and you know how they feel about GM foods in Africa. :(

I didn't realize they were still selling Moxie *heh*
Congo--Kinshasa
12-12-2006, 06:25
I would also like to point out that this not unique to Nigeria. Homophobia is more or less common in almost all African countries. Many Africans view homosexuality as a sinful vice introduced to the continent by colonialists. Hell, even in some of the freer countries, like Botswana, homosexualty is a crime.
Poliwanacraca
12-12-2006, 06:57
I find the "sexual deviancy law" passed in Zimbabwe even stupider (if such a thing is possible) than this potential Nigerian legislation. It's a criminal offense to hold hands with someone of the same gender? That's just...ludicrous.
The Nazz
12-12-2006, 06:58
Sure, they execute gays in Nigeria..

But who are we to decide what is morally acceptable in the context of a foreign culture? Nigeria is a majority Muslim country, and executing gays may be perfectly acceptable within the parameters of Sharii'a law. Isn't Islamic law considered valid in many cases even in Western countries? Wouldn't it be rather insensitive to tell 130 million Africans that their local laws are inhumane or barbaric?

Given the number of commies on this site, I know there's at least a few people who will agree with the above.. no moral relativists around?

Nice straw man there--build it yourself? Moral relativism isn't nearly as absolute as you'd like to make it sound. Executing gays may be perfectly acceptable under sharia law, but that doesn't make it a moral act, nor does it deal with the issue of the universal human right of individuals to be secure in their persons.
Pepe Dominguez
12-12-2006, 07:02
Nice straw man there--build it yourself? Moral relativism isn't nearly as absolute as you'd like to make it sound. Executing gays may be perfectly acceptable under sharia law, but that doesn't make it a moral act, nor does it deal with the issue of the universal human right of individuals to be secure in their persons.

I've already stipulated that excecuting gays for that reason alone is immoral. It's the morality of intervention that I'm concerned with.
Pepe Dominguez
12-12-2006, 07:06
I didn't realize they were still selling Moxie *heh*

Yup, it's still big in Maine and some surrounding areas. It was made the state drink of Maine around the time I was there last, so I bought a can. It's like carbonated cough syrup, but I could learn to like it if I lived there.. probably. :p
UpwardThrust
12-12-2006, 07:07
Stupid law.

But the article mentioned an equally stupid one:



"Sorry dad, I can't hug you 'cause we'd get caught and go to jail."

And as for the question of Nigeria in general, I come in contact regularly with a fair number of Nigerians, seeing as I have several as neighbors and as other aquantances. I have yet to meet one that I liked and who wasn't working some sort of scam. I'm sure there are honest and good people from Nigeria, but....
I had a dick of a professor from there ... good at math (he was an encryption specialist) but he was a dick (no scamming though) he was fairly honest
... till the end anyways when he left the univ
Vegan Nuts
12-12-2006, 07:10
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

how obnoxious. prior to muslim and christian colonialism in the area the tribes of nigeria had cross-dressing gay gods. my religion is *from* nigeria, chiefly. thank you, abrahamic religion. I wish you would hurry up and die.

as an aside, I had a roomie in college from nigeria and another classmate. they were both very sweet. the religious situation in nigeria is not, btw, majority muslim. it's actually rather complicated. it is split about evenly between various christian sects and islam, with a sizable minority practicing the pantheistic animism that santeria and candomble are descended from. many of the muslims and christians simultaneously practice tribal religion, as well. syncretism is completely acceptable to the Yoruba so many of the christians and muslims are heterodox there. there is a charismatic christian movement that is militantly anti-indigenous religion, but it's small. there are a few neo-tribal cults that have sprung up in the recent past, as well. historically the yoruba, at least, have been very tolerant of homosexuality and gender equality - they were an advanced urban culture, as much as a tribe, and cosmopolitan social views were common. the bantu are rather more patriarchal than the yoruba, though the neighboring Fon (mostly in Benin but some in nigeria) are, or at least were, very accepting and open. I'm not sure about the Ibo, though again I've never met a rude Ibo individual.
Gravlen
12-12-2006, 20:58
It's a sad state of affairs, that :(


But who are we to decide what is morally acceptable in the context of a foreign culture? Nigeria is a majority Muslim country, 50% muslim, 40% christian, 10% other (indigenous belief) according to the CIA world Factbook

and executing gays may be perfectly acceptable within the parameters of Sharii'a law.
...which is adopted in 12 (of 36) states in Nigeria.

Besides, remember that adherence to Shari'a provisions is compulsory for Muslims in some states and optional in others. Non-Muslims are not required in any state to submit to Shari'a jurisdiction, although in some states they have the option. (Source) (http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61586.htm)

Aaaanyways, seing as Nigeria's Anglican Church supports the bill, this case of homophobioa is not only a muslim problem.

Ah, I hope it won't pass, but I'm not holdning my breath.
JuNii
12-12-2006, 21:08
Spare me your religious nonsense, please.

I take Edwardis's post to be a condemnation on their laws, and thus agreeing with you from a religious side.

and it's rather hard for him not to address you when you are the first post. ;)
Utracia
12-12-2006, 21:12
I would also like to point out that this not unique to Nigeria. Homophobia is more or less common in almost all African countries. Many Africans view homosexuality as a sinful vice introduced to the continent by colonialists. Hell, even in some of the freer countries, like Botswana, homosexualty is a crime.

South Africa must be an exception.

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/11/30/1
The Atlantian islands
12-12-2006, 21:15
It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.
Ah yes, because Nigeria=the world outside Scanidland. :rolleyes:
Dont be a tool.
Gift-of-god
12-12-2006, 21:15
Aren't they thinking about banning tofu in Nigeria too?
Potarius
12-12-2006, 21:24
Aren't they thinking about banning tofu in Nigeria too?

I don't know if that would be a bad thing at all. I mean, tofu is nasty stuff.

Ever eaten a tofu hotdog? Those could gag a maggot.
Epic Fusion
12-12-2006, 22:17
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/12/121106nigeria.htm

"Legislation being considered by Nigeria's House of Representatives would make it a criminal offense to associate with known homosexuals.

The bill would make make any meeting between two or more people where one is gay a crime punishable up to five years behind bars."

A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.

it may be seen as immoral but at least it's interesting!

dull as shit in most places, maybe someone should try and kill all white men, now that would be interesting
Soviestan
12-12-2006, 22:25
I don't really see the problem. People should stay true to God. Associating with these gays could distract one from following God completely by getting caught up in that lifestyle.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2006, 22:43
I don't really see the problem. People should stay true to God. Associating with these gays could distract one from following God completely by getting caught up in that lifestyle.

It's very unchristian. Christ didn't minister to the pious. He ministered to the impious. *nod*
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2006, 00:50
You know what, after looking this over, I dont see how I can judge this as bad. I mean, it may not be ok in our culture, but who are we to judge their culture and traditions. Its their way of life, and it only seems "wrong" because we dont do it in our culture. But who are we to use our culture to evalute others. And after all, "wrong" is sooo subjective......
Arrkendommer
13-12-2006, 00:57
We all know what a modern, forward-thinking country Nigeria is. :rolleyes:
Commonalitarianism
13-12-2006, 01:00
We could start a campaign to wipe out all internet con artists, spammers, and con artists in Nigeria by trying to prove they are gay, or associate with gays. It would be a sick and evil thing to do.
Mirkai
13-12-2006, 01:00
I would also like to point out that this not unique to Nigeria. Homophobia is more or less common in almost all African countries.

And yet if one of them came here and were treated badly because of their skin color, they'd be running to Jesse Jackson faster than you could say "Bojangles."

And people wonder why I'm bitter. It's behavior like this in other countries that make me wish we could build a giant laser-fence around Canada and staff it with machine-gun wielding metal death-skeletons.

And the skeletons could cook for us.

Also, there would be cool looking glowing spots on the skeletons.

On a more relevant note, I think about all the times I've held hands with Richard, and hugged him, kissed him, thought about how beautiful he was and how good we felt together. He's just so sweet a guy.. and seeing him held content in my arms invoked one of the best things I've ever felt. It really pains me that there are people that can't share this feeling or know this kind of love because they're governed by ignorant tyrants and surrounded by the hateful.

Everyone deserves to feel love, and to be loved, at least once. To think that either me or Richard, or anyone like us, could've been born in such a place, to think we could be hated for something that feels so good and wholesome to us.. It's not just upsetting, it's downright disturbing.
Arrkendommer
13-12-2006, 01:01
Something like this coming out of Nigeria doesn't surprise me in the least.

A real shithole full of worthless thieves, scam artists, and an even more worthless government.
Lagos is pretty much the most dystopian place in the world, like actually. Even the rich people are poor there. The most sophisticated culture is in the dump! It's no Copenhagen.
Hydesland
13-12-2006, 01:02
Jesus Christ, thats...

ok I was going to say a new low, but it isn't, not for nigeria.
JuNii
13-12-2006, 01:38
???

I wonder how they will define Associate?

I mean, right now, I am associating with alot of people on NSG...
I can be associated with Hawaiians being that I live in Hawaii...
I can be Associated with someone I never met in Japan just because he/she is my cousin upteenth times removed...
I can be associated with a person just because we ride the same bus, eat at the same resturant...

I mean, they can say A Nigerian can be associated with a Known Gay Person just because that gay person is a Nigerian...

I am now picturing the entire nation of Nigeria imprisioned for associating with Known Nigerian Homosexuals...
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2006, 01:42
I am now picturing the entire nation of Nigeria imprisioned for associating with Known Nigerian Homosexuals...
Now thats a good picture.:)
The Lone Alliance
13-12-2006, 01:42
Yeah a country with a million Princes, CEOs, Sultans, and other assorted rich folks who need YOUR bank account to give YOU MONEY FOR FREE!
Rainbowwws
13-12-2006, 01:47
I find the "sexual deviancy law" passed in Zimbabwe even stupider (if such a thing is possible) than this potential Nigerian legislation. It's a criminal offense to hold hands with someone of the same gender? That's just...ludicrous.

Don't hold you're little sisters hand while she crosses the street or UR A GAY
Soviestan
13-12-2006, 02:01
It's very unchristian. Christ didn't minister to the pious. He ministered to the impious. *nod*

I'm not Christian.
Congo--Kinshasa
13-12-2006, 04:55
South Africa must be an exception.

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/11/30/1

The South African government, yes. But even there, there is a lot of opposition to homosexuality.
Congo--Kinshasa
13-12-2006, 04:56
Lagos is pretty much the most dystopian place in the world, like actually. Even the rich people are poor there. The most sophisticated culture is in the dump! It's no Copenhagen.

No, the rich in Nigeria tend to be very rich, while the poor tend to be very poor. Obviously, the latter far, far outnumber the former. :(
Edwardis
13-12-2006, 06:35
It's very unchristian. Christ didn't minister to the pious. He ministered to the impious. *nod*

I don't think Soviestan is Christian. I think s/he's Muslim.

EDIT: And s/he said a few posts ago that s/he is not Christian, so there you go.
Europa Maxima
17-12-2006, 04:07
A law that makes it illegal to be friends with a gay person, or even to talk to one or meet one or have anything to do with one. It's when I read things like these that I really hate the world outside of Scandinavia.
How utterly supersilious. You make a valid point, then drown it with the arrogance - to the rest of the world it is as though Scandinavia does not even exist (nevermind that it is hardly utopian to begin with or that the above article is representative of the world outside it). Are we any worse off for it? Not really... Well, maybe we'll agree that Norway exists, for its oil. :)