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Three Children of Palestinian Official Slain (http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/three-children-of-palestinian-official/20061211103009990001)

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (Dec. 11) -- Palestinian gunmen killed three young sons of a senior Palestinian intelligence officer Monday, pumping dozens of bullets into their car as it passed through a street crowded with schoolchildren in an apparent botched assassination attempt that could ignite widespread factional fighting.

I guess things are heating up inside the PA!

Do you think this will cause widespread factional fight?

Three Children of Palestinian Official Slain (http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/three-children-of-palestinian-official/20061211103009990001)



I guess things are heating up inside the PA!

Do you think this will cause widespread factional fight?

yes. poor kids...:(

wait though. They were killed today the 11th. and there has already been a large protest, and they've been buried already.

is it me or does that seem really fast???

yes. poor kids...:(

wait though. They were killed today the 11th. and there has already been a large protest, and they've been buried already.

is it me or does that seem really fast???

That is how it is done in the middle east. Fatah is already blaming Hamas and they are denying it.

Do you think this will cause widespread factional fight?

Mmm, as opposed to the factional fighting that's been going on for over a year now, with short breaks?

That is how it is done in the middle east. Fatah is already blaming Hamas and they are denying it.

ok...

well that's to be expected. They're not going to say "yeah sorry about that. Abdullah was watching the car, unfortunately he went for a coffee while the kids were getting in. its his first day you know"

An atrocity, regardless of who carrried it out.

An atrocity, regardless of who carrried it out.

Something tells me it wasn't the evil j00z...:rolleyes:

alas I feel sorry for the people affected but to me its just another shooting and thus I couldn’t care less sadly

Something tells me it wasn't the evil j00z...:rolleyes:

Really? I know I'm probably wasting my time typing this without the nessecary bright colours and rhyming song to explain it, but I find your wording above to imply that I somehow have something against Jews. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Really? I know I'm probably wasting my time typing this without the nessecary bright colours and rhyming song to explain it, but I find your wording above to imply that I somehow have something against Jews. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

So many on this forum are loathe to ascribe the problems of the Palestinians on themselves - I need to post pre-emptively, in case someone says, "oh, it was the evil j00z".

Really? I know I'm probably wasting my time typing this without the nessecary bright colours and rhyming song to explain it, but I find your wording above to imply that I somehow have something against Jews. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

but he said wasn't :eek: (followed by rolly eyes to suggest Israeli heavy handed intervention...again)

So many on this forum are loathe to ascribe the problems of the Palestinians on themselves - I need to post pre-emptively, in case someone says, "oh, it was the evil j00z".

Lets clarify something - it could have been carried out by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Israeli agents, Hezbollah, a faction within Fatah or the PFLP, with varying degrees of probablility. It could also be the result of a family/clan feud. Some might think it was the Israeli state over a palestinian faction, some the other way round, and some like myself reserving judgement, as its a violent place full of fractious bastards. Very few refer to "Jews", and I suggest you direct your comments towards them when they make themselves known.

Lets clarify something - it could have been carried out by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Israeli agents, Hezbollah, a faction within Fatah or the PFLP, with varying degrees of probablility. It could also be the result of a family/clan feud. Some might think it was the Israeli state over a palestinian faction, some the other way round, and some like myself reserving judgement, as its a violent place full of fractious bastards. Very few refer to "Jews", and I suggest you direct your comments towards them when they make themselves known.

Odds of it being Israelis, considering the internecine warfare at present between Hamas and Fatah = ZERO

Odds of it being Israelis, considering the internecine warfare at present between Hamas and Fatah = ZERO

Yep.

Odds of it being Israelis, considering the internecine warfare at present between Hamas and Fatah = ZERO

Never say never, particularily if you're half-witted enough to throw about unjustified implications of anti-semitism.

Never say never, particularily if you're half-witted enough to throw about unjustified implications of anti-semitism.

I think it's quite telling that Hamas was blamed.

I think it's quite telling that Hamas was blamed.

The odds of it being somebody else are minimal, but they still exist.

The odds of it being somebody else are minimal, but they still exist.

not true, looking more and more like a personal grudge than a Hamas attack.

I think it's quite telling that Hamas was blamed.
Yes... because Fatah and Hamas are in a bit of a conflict right now. But I don't think it was them, to be honest. They wouldn't really want to provoke Fatah any more when the conflict looks to be drawing to a close.

Three Children of Palestinian Official Slain (http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/three-children-of-palestinian-official/20061211103009990001)



I guess things are heating up inside the PA!

Do you think this will cause widespread factional fight?

There has already been widespread factional fighting. The withholding of funds from west has created so much tension in Palestine that its not really living anymore there, its survival. Its sad really since all Palestinians should be united against the enemy.

Odds of it being Israelis, considering the internecine warfare at present between Hamas and Fatah = ZERO

You give the Israelis too little credit...

The odds are never zero in the middle east. In this case they are very, very small, but they aren't zero.

There has already been widespread factional fighting. The withholding of funds from west has created so much tension in Palestine that its not really living anymore there, its survival. Its sad really since all Palestinians should be united against the enemy.


Oh please please. Tell us again...who is the enemy? Is it Goldilocks and the trhee bears? Maybe Pinnochio? The only enemy I see involved in this fight of Plestinian against everybody is the Palestinias, because they have allowed themselves to become the pawns of other middle eastern nations in a bid for power in the region.

But tell us, who exactly is the enemy? Confirm what we already know you're gonna say, since it is all you ever say, with never a bit of actual proof, sense, or relativity.


Do I win the big stuffed purple gorilla in th corner if he says "ebil jooz" again?

And these people want a state!?!?!?!?!?

And these people want a state!?!?!?!?!?

and no israeli would, for the sake of arguement, walk into a mosque with an assault rifle and say hello? :rolleyes:

worse happens in US schools regularly

not true, looking more and more like a personal grudge than a Hamas attack.


Actually I mentiomed the possibiliy of such on page one. "eve" there seems to think suggesting that it may not be x means one is some form of anti-semite.....

Actually I mentiomed the possibiliy of such on page one. "eve" there seems to think suggesting that it may not be x means one is some form of anti-semite.....

Hell, it could be both, a personal grudge by a Hamas member. I'm sure the story will get more convoluted and disreputable as it unfolds.

Precisely. "fractious bastards" was the phrase that came to mind....

3 less Palastinians to worry about...

These guys are never going to get anything resolved.

3 less Palastinians to worry about...

These guys are never going to get anything resolved.

they were kids you racist prick :gundge:

they were kids who were likely being trained by their schools and society to hate westerners in general and jews in particular. It's a shame that their family and society are dressing their babies up to mimic suicide bombers because suicide bombers are like the Michael Jordans of Palestine.

But I don't really disagree with the sentiment that we are better off if they are killing each other than if they are killing us. It sure points out quite clearly how berserk the palestinian society is in general, and how badly the average citizens have failed to demand better from their leaders.

As soon as the Pallies themselves demand that this insanty stop, you can bet that it will.

they were kids who were likely being trained by their schools and society to hate westerners in general and jews in particular. It's a shame that their family and society are dressing their babies up to mimic suicide bombers because suicide bombers are like the Michael Jordans of Palestine.

You've got no evidence to point that they would have become suicide bombers. They had not committed any crime whatsoever, therefore they should not have been killed.

I'm rather shocked and saddened that people on here would condone killing innocent children.

You've got no evidence to point that they would have become suicide bombers. They had not committed any crime whatsoever, therefore they should not have been killed.

I'm rather shocked and saddened that people on here would condone killing innocent children.

You really shouldn't be. Plenty here have condoned Palestinian suicide bomb attacks on Israel - and all too often, the targets there have been kids, too.

I must admit, the one thing that is a little odd about this is that they missed the actual target. That would seem to indicate a less than professional team of assassins.

3 less Palastinians to worry about...

These guys are never going to get anything resolved.

They were kids dude.

You've got no evidence to point that they would have become suicide bombers. They had not committed any crime whatsoever, therefore they should not have been killed.

I'm rather shocked and saddened that people on here would condone killing innocent children.

At no point did I claim those three children were being taught to be suicide bombers. Please don't put words like that n my mouth. I don't need evidence for that because I didn't claim it.
I said that they were being taught to hate westerners and jews, most likely. Shall I post a thousand or so links showing children being dressed as suicide bombers? Shall I show another thousand links showing that the Palestinians and most other middle eastern countries are teaching their children to hate us? I'd hate to waste that much bandwidth but it's all there for those with the energy and the will to see. Sadly there are too many in this forum willing to laud these insane behaviro patterns instad of condemning them. Middle eastern schools have two purposes: the first is to teach fundamental Islam> The second is to raise children who hate the west, and America and Jews in particular.

I also didn't say I was thrilled about it. I said I could understand the sentiment, and that at least they weren't shooting at us this time. And then I said that it was pretty indicative of how screwed up they are, and that the only people who can change this behavior is THEM.

You're right. They were kids. It sucks. But, having said that, I don't particularly feel any great...need to try to go over there and help them. They would only kill me for it. So fuck them, and their kids. When they decide they don't want to shoot everybody in the room, I'lll happiily go help them rebuild. Am I a hardass? You bet. I have no obligation to let those idiots kill me just because they are screwed up in the head, and want to kill me more than they want a safe happy life.

This just in:

Hamas has fired upon Fatah demonstrators.

they were kids who were likely being trained by their schools and society to hate westerners in general and jews in particular. It's a shame that their family and society are dressing their babies up to mimic suicide bombers because suicide bombers are like the Michael Jordans of Palestine.

But I don't really disagree with the sentiment that we are better off if they are killing each other than if they are killing us. It sure points out quite clearly how berserk the palestinian society is in general, and how badly the average citizens have failed to demand better from their leaders.

As soon as the Pallies themselves demand that this insanty stop, you can bet that it will.

And of course the racism in Israeli text books and that promulgated by the extremists in the settler movement just didn't feature on your radar.

And of course the racism in Israeli text books and that promulgated by the extremists in the settler movement just didn't feature on your radar.

And the racism in Arab textbooks that do the same.

And the racism in Arab textbooks that do the same.

He already mentioned them. Its quite well know. The other, it seems, perhaps not as much.

Hm...can you show me a sample? I sincerly doubt this is true, but if you can show proof--beyond some whacked out Muslim claiming it, and I might begin to believe you.

I have trouble believing Israel would do this kind of thing, especially since I have friends who grew up in Israel and sneered at your post when I showed them this morning. They said you are full of crap, that none of their textbooks ever described Muslims as children of the devil who need to be killed to protect all the good god fearing people of the world. THere are history textbooks which describe the arab attacks on Israel, but nothing racist...

SHow me proof and maybe I can get them to log on or something and debate you themselves.

Oh please please. Tell us again...who is the enemy? Is it Goldilocks and the trhee bears? Maybe Pinnochio? The only enemy I see involved in this fight of Plestinian against everybody is the Palestinias, because they have allowed themselves to become the pawns of other middle eastern nations in a bid for power in the region.

But tell us, who exactly is the enemy? Confirm what we already know you're gonna say, since it is all you ever say, with never a bit of actual proof, sense, or relativity.


Do I win the big stuffed purple gorilla in th corner if he says "ebil jooz" again?

The zionists are the enemy. But you already knew that so I wonder why even had to ask.

The zionists are the enemy. But you already knew that so I wonder why even had to ask.

When you say Zionist you really mean Jew.

You're just like the fucktard in Tehran. You hide your anti-semitism by using the term "zionist" instead of Jew because if you use that term, you know everyone will discount what you're saying as racist.

The zionists are the enemy. But you already knew that so I wonder why even had to ask.


Define zionist for me willya? I am not very smart, as we all know.:headbang:

Define zionist for me willya? I am not very smart, as we all know.:headbang:

Zionist are those who support and in many cases wish to expand the jewish state on what is Muslim land. In many cases they play the victim claiming the jew "deserve" their own country because of claimed persecution throughout history and including the holocuast where they claim genocide was committed against them.

Zionist are those who support and in many cases wish to expand the jewish state on what is Muslim land. In many cases they play the victim claiming the jew "deserve" their own country because of claimed persecution throughout history and including the holocuast where they claim genocide was committed against them.

So you believe that the land the Jews bought was not really their land?
Do you also think that it was Palestinian owned land?

THe fact that it was not a nation at all before 1948 doesn't matter does it? Or that the only people who owned the land we a variety of sheiks, who happily and willingly sold the land to the Jews so they could get the hell out of the desert?

or this:On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly, with a two-thirds majority international vote, passed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181), a plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states, with the Greater Jerusalem area (encompassing Bethlehem) coming under international control. Jewish leaders (including the Jewish Agency), accepted the plan, while Palestinian Arab leaders rejected it and refused to negotiate. Neighboring Arab and Muslim states also rejected the partition plan. The Arab community reacted violently after the Arab Higher Committee declared a strike and burned many buildings and shops. As armed skirmishes between Arab and Jewish paramilitary forces in Palestine continued, the British mandate ended on May 15, 1948, the establishment of the State of Israel having been proclaimed the day before (see Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel). The neighboring Arab states and armies (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Transjordan, Holy War Army, Arab Liberation Army, and local Arabs) immediately attacked Israel following its declaration of independence, and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War ensued. Consequently, the partition plan was never implemented.


THe "palestinians" screwed themselves. THey could STILL have their wn country out of land they never owned, but they are too stupid to do so. No, they want to kill joos. They deserve what they get.