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Are you married? If so, what is your husband/wife like? How old were you when you got married? What was your wedding like?
If not, do you ever plan to get married?

not legally but I am married to a few women…

not legally but I am married to a few women…

And it would be a problm to do it legally because polygamy is outlawed in the UK?

i'm not, and i doubt i will.

I will some time in the future...

And it would be a problm to do it legally because polygamy is outlawed in the UK?

no if marriage means to love honour and protect surely you should marry all your close friends

Yes we do it for shits and giggles:D

As for myself, I am married to a man named Baheb, who is very nice and caring. We have a lovely two-year-old son named Tapil. When we were married, I was 12 and he was 27. We are very happy.

And it would be a problm to do it legally because polygamy is outlawed in the UK?

its outlawed to all but a hand full of Nations

all so i'am NS married to a lot of people

in life i just started to go out with the girl i had feelings for some time

As for myself, I am married to a man named Baheb, who is very nice and caring. We have a lovely two-year-old son named Tapil. When we were married, I was 12 and he was 27. We are very happy.

This is just a stab in the dark but are you a gypsy by any chance?

no if marriage means to love honour and protect surely you should marry all your close friends

Yes we do it for shits and giggles:D

It's more than that. It's a sacred pact betwen two peopl and Allah, or God, Brahma, The Great Spirit, L. Ron Hubbard, take your pick.

This is just a stab in the dark but are you a gypsy by any chance?

Umm... no.

It's more than that. It's a sacred pact betwen two peopl and Allah, or God, Brahma, The Great Spirit, L. Ron Hubbard, take your pick.

so what’s a registry office to you?

This is just a stab in the dark but are you a gypsy by any chance?

i say she from India

As for myself, I am married to a man named Baheb, who is very nice and caring. We have a lovely two-year-old son named Tapil. When we were married, I was 12 and he was 27. We are very happy.

:eek:

Umm... no.

I'm intrigued then how did you manage to get married at 12 to a man 15 years your senior?

i say she from India

moneys on Tajikistan

moneys on Tajikistan

I'm going to put my money on some sort of American Indian.

I'm intrigued then how did you manage to get married at 12 to a man 15 years your senior?

Is that not allowed in the UK?
I grew up in Iraq, so forgive me if I'm a little hazy on British marriage laws.

I'm going to put my money on some sort of American Indian.

not with a name like Behab

If not, do you ever plan to get married?

That's too detailed a plan than I usually care to make about the future.

not with a name like Behab

I was thinking more of the kids name.

Is that not allowed in the UK?
I grew up in Iraq, so forgive me if I'm a little hazy on British marriage laws.

not in most parts of the world no
27 year old marrys a 12 year old and has a kid with them ends in jail time

...Is your wife a goer?

*nudge-nudge, wink-wink*

not in most parts of the world no
27 year old marrys a 12 year old and has a kid with them ends in jail time

:( I'm 17 now, and 15 when he was born...

Is that not allowed in the UK?
I grew up in Iraq, so forgive me if I'm a little hazy on British marriage laws.

well most of the world has consent laws where young girls (under 18 usually) cant marry old men seeing as all the trouble it does cause

out of interest was it arranged?

:( I'm 17 now, and 15 when he was born...

hows your back coping?

I'm Single and Happy :D . It won't hurt my feelings if I stay single for the rest of my life. I have seen too many couples who are determined to change each other and by putting you on a restricted leash. I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms. I do NOT agree in them wanting to change your persons to their likings. They should Love you for who you are not Love you for what they want you to be. I suppose I just don't understand why if you fall in Love with somebody, why at a later time they want to change you. :confused:

As for my parents, my mom was 17 and my dad was 21 when they got married. They had there 35th wedding anniversary on August 18, 2006. They had six kids together. 5 boys and last but not least a girl born with a blast on the Fourth of July. They had ups and downs throughout their marriage for so many years and it only took my mom 30 years to finally attach the restricted leash to my dad. (He's where I get my stubborness and bull-headedness from :D ) Both of my parents have mellowed out tremendously from when they were younger. Softened up quite a bit too.

I know that I may be the "black sheep of my family" but I am glad that they stayed together and had six kids together. I think it's becoming more and more uncommon to find a family that isn't or hasn't been split, so sad. :(

well most of the world has consent laws where young girls (under 18 usually) cant marry old men seeing as all the trouble it does cause

out of interest was it arranged?

Yes, but we already knew each other beforehand.

hows your back coping?

:confused: I have back pain sometimes. What does this have to do with anything?

I'm intrigued then how did you manage to get married at 12 to a man 15 years your senior?

My uncle used to be a Highschool Teacher and wound up marrying one of his students some years ago. I'm not exactly sure what the age gap was (I say was since they're divorced now. They had 3 kids together) I'm pretty sure it was close to 20 years give or take. It was legal, however, they got married after she graduated and I don't think they knew at the time he was teaching her.

:( I'm 17 now, and 15 when he was born...

still under age at time he still go to jail,
you may have said yes to sex with him, but by law he end up in jail as your under age
here in my Nation a girl of 16 by law can have sex and other person not go to jail , as long as the other person is of age and not under

still under age at time he still go to jail,
you may have said yes to sex with him, but by law he end up in jail as your under age
here in my Nation a girl of 16 by law can have sex and other person not go to jail , as long as the other person is of age and not under

I never knew that before. To me, 18 seems to be quite old to be the minimum age, but 12 seems very young to you. I find differing cultural viwpoints like this very interesting.

Yes, but we already knew each other beforehand.

but the age of consent in Iraq is 18 :confused:

source: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

edit: though Turkeys marital consent is much lower is it the same for Iraq?

:confused: I have back pain sometimes. What does this have to do with anything?

early child birth leads to allot of trouble with the back and such

:( I'm 17 now, and 15 when he was born...

getting married at such a young age is close to if not completely unheard of in the states, not to mention it is illegal with that big of an age difference. It hard for me to imagine as well, i am 17 and i have yet to even go out with a guy, though i am slightly against the norm.

:( I'm 17 now, and 15 when he was born...

And to think that my mother now regrets having married at 20 and having kids at 21 because she was too young....

Nope, not married. I might some day, but I think it's still a bit early for me.

I never knew that before. To me, 18 seems to be quite old to be the minimum age, but 12 seems very young to you. I find differing cultural viwpoints like this very interesting.

here you can get marry at 17 as my mum was married at 17
but laws change all the time so i have to check

getting married at such a young age is close to if not completely unheard of in the states, not to mention it is illegal with that big of an age difference. It hard for me to imagine as well, i am 17 and i have yet to even go out with a guy, though i am slightly against the norm.

14 seems to be the youngest age of consent (http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm) anywhere in the states.

but the age of consent in Iraq is 18 :confused:

source: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

edit: though Turkeys marital consent is much lower is it the same for Iraq?
That I can't explain. As far as I know, it has never been 18. It may be now with America taking over, but I haven't been back there for 3 years. I've never heard anyone mention age of consent laws. Who knows, maybe it was one of those laws that officially exists, but no one takes any notice of.


early child birth leads to allot of trouble with the back and such

Is that right?

getting married at such a young age is close to if not completely unheard of in the states, not to mention it is illegal with that big of an age difference. It hard for me to imagine as well,

the biggest thing about it is how could such a thing possibly work, after all I'm 17
and 12 year old girls are the last thing I want to spend the rest of my life with

i am 17 and i have yet to even go out with a guy, though i am slightly against the norm.

awww :fluffle:

Is that right?

You can read it up here (http://www.infoforhealth.org/pr/j41/j41chap2_3.shtml)

You can read it up here (http://www.infoforhealth.org/pr/j41/j41chap2_3.shtml)

Come to think of it, I do know of quite a few people who have died in childbirth.

here you can get marry at 17 as my mum was married at 17
but laws change all the time so i have to check

i was right laws change

heres what i find
http://www.familycourt.gov.au.master.com/texis/master/search/?q=age+you+can+marry&s=SS

Not legally. Ilegally, I married about 15 people at camp last summer.

Who knows, maybe it was one of those laws that officially exists, but no one takes any notice of.

that’s what I'm thinking essentially I think it means you have complete control over the marriage

Is that right?

Rsks for medical complications are greater for girls 14 years of age and younger, as an underdeveloped pelvis can lead to difficulties in childbirth. Obstructed labour is normally dealt with by Caesarean section in industrialized nations; however, in developing regions where medical services might be unavailable, it can lead to eclampsia, obstetric fistula, infant mortality, or maternal death.

The youngest mother to ever give birth to a child was Lina Medina, who gave birth to a boy at age five

:eek:

Come to think of it, I do know of quite a few people who have died in childbirth.

If they got pregnant while not yet being an adult but still in puberty, that's hardly surprising.

14 seems to be the youngest age of consent (http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm) anywhere in the states.

yah and i think that that is in Alabama, even then for some one under 18 to get married it has to be with parental agreement from all the parents involved, even if they get parental agreement, some courts still wont marry them, only if the girl is pregnant will they. And thats with kids close in age to each other i cant imagine what they would do with a case of a 27 and 12 year old.


I never knew that before. To me, 18 seems to be quite old to be the minimum age, but 12 seems very young to you. I find differing cultural viwpoints like this very interesting.

i agree, it is interesting. did you grow up knowing that you would marry the man that you did? or did you not find out til you were older?

Right now I'd probably not have enough time to maintain a bland, unmarried relationship, let alone a married relationship.

yah and i think that that is in Alabama, even then for some one under 18 to get married it has to be with parental agreement from all the parents involved, even if they get parental agreement, some courts still wont marry them, only if the girl is pregnant will they. And thats with kids close in age to each other i cant imagine what they would do with a case of a 27 and 12 year old.


He would go to prison for that, even in the most liberal countries.

If they got pregnant while not yet being an adult but still in puberty, that's hardly surprising.

I think I read something somewhere about the burqas preventing us from getting enough sunlight, so we can't absorb some vitamin, which leads to underdeveloped bones. That's probably a contributor, if it's true.

He would go to prison for that, even in the most liberal countries.

i know

I think I read something somewhere about the burqas preventing us from getting enough sunlight, so we can't absorb some vitamin, which leads to underdeveloped bones. That's probably a contributor, if it's true.

That would be vitamin D.
But I didn't know they wore burqas in Iraq? From what I know, they are pretty much exclusive to Afghanistan...

i agree, it is interesting. did you grow up knowing that you would marry the man that you did? or did you not find out til you were older?

Our families have been friends for many years and I've known him since I was a small child. We were good friends for awhil and both sets of parents agreed that marriage would probably be the best thing.

I think I read something somewhere about the burqas preventing us from getting enough sunlight, so we can't absorb some vitamin, which leads to underdeveloped bones. That's probably a contributor, if it's true.

burqas?

in iraq?

That would be vitamin D.
But I didn't know they wore burqas in Iraq? From what I know, they are pretty much exclusive to Afghanistan...

They're mostly an Afgani thing, but people in a fw other countries wear them. I personally have never worn one. I meant 'we' as in women in general.

Our families have been friends for many years and I've known him since I was a small child. We were good friends for awhil and both sets of parents agreed that marriage would probably be the best thing.

hmm, thats interesting, what did the two of you think?

hmm, thats interesting, what did the two of you think?

We were both happy to go through with it. It's been a good marriage and we are both happy.

Our families have been friends for many years and I've known him since I was a small child. We were good friends for awhil and both sets of parents agreed that marriage would probably be the best thing.

mmm just make me think
parents may have be thinking what was right for them not you

awww :fluffle:

thanks for the :fluffle:
its ok though, i don't really mind all that much

They're mostly an Afgani thing, but people in a fw other countries wear them. I personally have never worn one. I meant 'we' as in women in general.

As I understand, burqas would be worn by grown women, not by children, though.
And the Vitamin D decifiency will only affect growing bones, meaning that not getting enough sunlight will mostly affect your growing bones while you're still a child. As an adult your bones will be less affected by this deficiency than your liver and kidneys.

I'm 16.

So...obviously not. But I do plan to be, just not too soon. Right out of High School I want to join the Navy. And unlike most 'military wives' mine won't have to worry TOO much about me getting killed [there's a pretty damn good survival rate in the Navy compared to the other branches of the US military]

We were both happy to go through with it. It's been a good marriage and we are both happy.

i guess as long as you are both happy that is what matters.
just out of curiosity what country do you live in now?

As I understand, burqas would be worn by grown women, not by children, though.
And the Vitamin D decifiency will only affect growing bones, meaning that not getting enough sunlight will mostly affect your growing bones while you're still a child. As an adult your bones will be less affected by this deficiency than your liver and kidneys.

Well, I'm just glad I never lived in Afganistan. Although Saudi Arabia, where I am now, isn't much better. I just want the war to be over.

i guess as long as you are both happy that is what matters.
just out of curiosity what country do you live in now?

Saudi Arabia.

Are you married? If so, what is your husband/wife like? How old were you when you got married? What was your wedding like?
If not, do you ever plan to get married?

Finally reached a point in my life where I am ready to get married. Problem is that a few dates into that selection process and its looking less and less likely that it will happen. Maybe I should just work on getting my PHD instead. I don't think my heart can take much more of this abuse :(

I just want the war to be over.

what war?

thanks for the :fluffle:
its ok though, i don't really mind all that much

why must you turn this thread into a parade of lies :p

Well, I'm just glad I never lived in Afganistan. Although Saudi Arabia, where I am now, isn't much better. I just want the war to be over.

Afganistan a hell hole and all ways will be as said to me by someone i know who just came back from there

what war?

the one next door in Iraq

what war?

The one in Iraq from which I had to flee.

the one next door in Iraq

The one in Iraq from which I had to flee.

the occupation?

the occupation?

the occupation/civil war/ bloody mess/ what ever you call it

the occupation/civil war/ bloody mess/ what ever you call it

The one where lots of people died and I didn't want to.

Saudi Arabia.

If you don't like it, what's stopping you from moving somewhere you like?

why must you turn this thread into a parade of lies :p
:p
ah but the truth is i wasn't lieing
:)

The one where lots of people died and I didn't want to.

The war on Iran?

If you don't like it, what's stopping you from moving somewhere you like?

My family. I can't go off on my own without them. In this country, I'm not even allowed to leave the house on my own.

The one where lots of people died and I didn't want to.

one of many things i call it is
someone just want to do better then his dad and our dum ass leaders went along with it

My family. I can't go off on my own without them. In this country, I'm not even allowed to leave the house on my own.

Well, take them with you then.

I'm not, but I like the idea of marriage and hopefully will get married at some point in the future.

The war on Iran?

No. The war in Iraq. Y'know, where America came in and blew evrything up, killed a bunch of civillains, said they were liberating us, got rid of Saddam, opened the door to the inane Shi'ites and Sunni? That war?

My family. I can't go off on my own without them. In this country, I'm not even allowed to leave the house on my own.

with out a male ,yer you get stone to death i think
yer there are some bad ass laws in Nation

The one where lots of people died and I didn't want to.
thats a good reason in my book.
sorry i know i asking a lot of questions and its probably getting annoying and if it is you can just ignore me, but i am assuming that you are Muslim is that correct?

Well, take them with you then.

Most of them want to stay here. My husband wants to stay here. And my grandmother is too old to do any more moving.

Most of them want to stay here. My husband wants to stay here. And my grandmother is too old to do any more moving.

So because of your husband , you have to stay in a place that makes you unhappy?
Sounds like a fulfilling marriage indeed.

thats a good reason in my book.
sorry i know i asking a lot of questions and its probably getting annoying and if it is you can just ignore me, but i am assuming that you are Muslim is that correct?

Got it in one.

So because of your husband , you have to stay in a place that makes you unhappy?
Sounds like a fulfilling marriage indeed.

That's not fair. It's not just him. I have my son to consider, and finanial isues too.

No. The war in Iraq. Y'know, where America came in and blew evrything up, killed a bunch of civillains, said they were liberating us, got rid of Saddam, opened the door to the inane Shi'ites and Sunni? That war?

Why does everyone always forget everyone else’s contributions :mad: :p

Out of interest how did you learn such good English and how are you accessing NSG from Saudi Arabia?

That's not fair. It's not just him. I have my son to consider, and finanial isues too.

well you could just make a donation thread in NS the “I’m an Iraqi suffering under Saudi tyranny get me out of hear thread” has a certain ring to it

Why does everyone always forget everyone else’s contributions :mad: :p

Out of interest how did you learn such good English and how are you accessing NSG from Saudi Arabia?

I'm sorry. Britain killed its share of people too.
As for English, I'm mostly self-taught, although I took a course on it a few years back. I have a natural talent for languages and I pride myself on speaking better English than George W. Bush.
And they have the internet in Saudi Arabia. It's restricted to some degree, but it's there.

well you could just make a donation thread in NS the “I’m an Iraqi suffering under Saudi tyranny get me out of hear thread” has a certain ring to it

I'm not suffering, it's just unpleasent here.

burqas?

in iraq?

It depends on the part of the country. When I was in Ar Ramadi many women wore burqas, but not all. Those who didn't wore hijabs. Interestingly, the only (adult) woman in Ramadi I saw without any head covering was the bride in a wedding caravan. I drove through Najaf a number of times and most of them only wore hijabs. In western Baghdad many of the women wear European style clothing.

That's not fair. It's not just him. I have my son to consider, and finanial isues too.

Your son is two years old, if my maths doesn't fail me. Do you really feel it's best for him to grow up in Saudi Arabia or Iraq?

Your son is two years old, if my maths doesn't fail me. Do you really feel it's best for him to grow up in Saudi Arabia or Iraq?

Where do you suggest? I you care to notice, most 'free world' countries aren't being too kind to imigrants right now.

Your son is two years old, if my maths doesn't fail me. Do you really feel it's best for him to grow up in Saudi Arabia or Iraq?

if she did leave, it be hard to get out,she cant leave home with out a male escort,and i dont think a two year old counts

Where do you suggest? I you care to notice, most 'free world' countries aren't being too kind to imigrants right now.

most of the "free world" is worried that a group of islamofascist's are trying to attack every thing that those country's stand for for no reason other than they don't have the same religion. IF you really want to get out and move then do it, go to the nearist embassy and have a chat with some one there, you can get out if you really want out.

Married for Nine Years now, great wife, two kids.

if she did leave, it be hard to get out,she cant leave home with out a male escort,and i dont think a two year old counts

i believe that her husband is a male, he should be able to go with her

most of the "free world" is worried that a group of islamofascist's are trying to attack every thing that those country's stand for for no reason other than they don't have the same religion. IF you really want to get out and move then do it, go to the nearist embassy and have a chat with some one there, you can get out if you really want out.

Well, I gues I don't want it enough. The fact is, I can't desert my family and I can't afford to move.

I'm not suffering, it's just unpleasent here.

don't tell us that sheeesh

Where do you suggest? I you care to notice, most 'free world' countries aren't being too kind to imigrants right now.

Untrue most countries are very kind to immigrants its just right wing groups you have to watch out for

Oh and I suggest Manchester but if that’s too far maybe India

i believe that her husband is a male, he should be able to go with her

i was thinking if she leaves with out him
but she said they happy togther

don't tell us that sheeesh



Untrue most countries are very kind to immigrants its just right wing groups you have to watch out for

Oh and I suggest Manchester but if that’s too far maybe India

India no good they are just as bad

India no good they are just as bad

depends where you go really with good English skills it shouldn’t be too hard to get a job in Indian telecoms

Well, I gues I don't want it enough. The fact is, I can't desert my family and I can't afford to move.

true, you shouldn't desert your family anyway. the point is that if you are truly not comfortable with your situation you need to talk with your husband.

Okay, thank you all four your suggestions, but you seem to have got the wrong impression. I am living in a contry that I don't like much. It is no more serious than that. I can deal with it.

Is that not allowed in the UK?
No, because that's paedophilia.

depends where you go really with good English skills it shouldn’t be too hard to get a job in Indian telecoms

tell me about, i got a new phone to hook it up i when through someone in India or was it someone from Pakistan.

Well, I gues I don't want it enough. The fact is, I can't desert my family and I can't afford to move.

You know what I find really interesting? You're 17... I know very few German teenagers with the command of English that you show here. I can't help wondering if English lessons in Saddam's Iraq were really that high quality, especially since I assume that you dropped out at latest when you were 15 and your son was born, if not even before.

You know what I find really interesting? You're 17... I know very few German teenagers with the command of English that you show here. I can't help wondering if English lessons in Saddam's Iraq were really that high quality, especially since I assume that you dropped out at latest when you were 15 and your son was born, if not even before.

Actually, the lessons were very good. Saddam's Iraq was not as bad as it is presented. I have always had a natural talent for picking up languages. I was speaking in sentences at 15 months.

Nope, but if they legalized it, I'd like to.

Nope, but if they legalized it, I'd like to.

It's illegal where you are? Why???

He would go to prison for that, even in the most liberal countries.
What do you mean even? Especially I would say. It's usually in the most ultra-conservative, patriarchal societies that marriages like that are allowed.

It's illegal where you are? Why???Well, marriage is legal here, but only for couples of opposite genders, so as far as I'm concerned it's illegal.

You know what I find really interesting? You're 17... I know very few German teenagers with the command of English that you show here. I can't help wondering if English lessons in Saddam's Iraq were really that high quality, especially since I assume that you dropped out at latest when you were 15 and your son was born, if not even before.

The majority of Iraqis I met in Iraq spoke very passable English, which was lucky for me because I only speak English and French.

Well, marriage is legal here, but only for couples of opposite genders, so as far as I'm concerned it's illegal.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh. That went right over my head. The issue has never evn been raised in Iraq. I wonder what would happen to the poor soul who did?

I'm going to put my money on some sort of American Indian.

No sorry we don't marry or breed that young.

Are you married? If so, what is your husband/wife like? How old were you when you got married? What was your wedding like?
If not, do you ever plan to get married?

I'm not, and I don't ever plan to be.

Nope, not happening anytime soon.
Whoopyyyyy!!!!! :D

Actually, the lessons were very good. Saddam's Iraq was not as bad as it is presented. I have always had a natural talent for picking up languages. I was speaking in sentences at 15 months.

Oh, I didn't mean to say that the entire situation in Iraq was bad. Sorry if it came across that way.
But it still surprises me that someone who left school between 12 and 15 would have such a good knowledge of the language.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh. That went right over my head. The issue has never evn been raised in Iraq. I wonder what would happen to the poor soul who did?

shot i say

No, but I probably will be within the next five years. :)

shot i say

or stoned to death

What do you mean even? Especially I would say. It's usually in the most ultra-conservative, patriarchal societies that marriages like that are allowed.

Most states in the US have an age of consent of 18, whereas most European countries have an age of consent of 16, some even 14.

or stoned to death

Iraq more like shot as i said or some other sick way

Iraq more like shot as i said or some other sick way

It doesn't matter. The fact is, if someone was stupid enough to make uch a suggestion, they would be killed.

Oh, I didn't mean to say that the entire situation in Iraq was bad. Sorry if it came across that way.
But it still surprises me that someone who left school between 12 and 15 would have such a good knowledge of the language.
*wonders whose puppet C-a E could be*

In case you are real, I have a question (sorry to be picking your brain, but we just don't get people with your experiences on NSG). You've said that having your freedom severely restricted is merely an inconvenience that you can live with. Do you have any plans to have a proffesion, or further your education, or take up some atristic pursuit? If so, do you think you will be able to live a fulfilled life given your status as a woman in Saudi Arabia?

Most states in the US have an age of consent of 18, whereas most European countries have an age of consent of 16, some even 14.
"age of consent" is the age you can have sex, isn't it? Not the age you can get married.

I am separated from my wife :(
She left me in August 2005 when our youngest son was 7 months old.
The boys (now 11 and 2) live with me.

I still miss her.
I see her often when I bring the kids to visit her and it still hurts to see her.

I have not even been on a date since she left me.
And since I was 100% faithful to her while we were together this means that I have not touched another woman in more that 13 years.

"age of consent" is the age you can have sex, isn't it? Not the age you can get married.

True... I seem to remember that most countries allow marriage only to adults. Some allow marriage from the age of 16 with the parents' consent. Many conservative-patriarchal countries won't allow marriage without the parents' consent at all.

It doesn't matter. The fact is, if someone was stupid enough to make uch a suggestion, they would be killed.

lot

*wonders whose puppet C-a E could be*

In case you are real, I have a question (sorry to be picking your brain, but we just don't get people with your experiences on NSG).
I hate that so much. Why is it so inconceivable that a person from Iraq could get on the internet?

*You've said that having your freedom severely restricted is merely an inconvenience that you can live with. Do you have any plans to have a proffesion, or further your education, or take up some atristic pursuit? If so, do you think you will be able to live a fulfilled life given your status as a woman in Saudi Arabia?
No, but it's not like it's permanent. Eventually, the situation in Iraq will calm down and we can go back home. In the meantime, I'm just going to have to cope. It's not a ituation I want to be in, but it's better than it could be.

I hate that so much. Why is it so inconceivable that a person from Iraq could get on the internet?


Not at all. But a 17 year old with a 2 year old son who got married when she was 12?
Doesn't sound very likely, sorry.

Not at all. But a 17 year old with a 2 year old son who got married when she was 12?
Doesn't sound very likely, sorry.

Well, it happens.

Not at all. But a 17 year old with a 2 year old son who got married when she was 12?
Doesn't sound very likely, sorry.

a 17 year old with a 2 year old son who got married at 12 who writes in virtually perfect american english.

I hate that so much. Why is it so inconceivable that a person from Iraq could get on the internet?


No, but it's not like it's permanent. Eventually, the situation in Iraq will calm down and we can go back home. In the meantime, I'm just going to have to cope. It's not a ituation I want to be in, but it's better than it could be.

i do not see one thing wrong some one from there bring on the net


hate to say but it be a long time before it calm down in Iraq
there a lot on thing going on there that is known

I hate that so much. Why is it so inconceivable that a person from Iraq could get on the internet? It isn't inconcievable. I just don't recall a single poster in this forum that comes from a middle eastern country other than Israel. There might have been a few that came from western countries that spent some time in the UAE or dubai or something. So it is unusual. Besides I can think of a couple master-pupeteers that are concievably busting a gut laughing right now.


No, but it's not like it's permanent. Eventually, the situation in Iraq will calm down and we can go back home. In the meantime, I'm just going to have to cope. It's not a ituation I want to be in, but it's better than it could be.What do you think of the political situation in Iraq? Do you think women will face more challenges if shi'a control of an elected government increases?

It isn't inconcievable. I just don't recall a single poster in this forum that comes from a middle eastern country other than Israel. There might have been a few that came from western countries that spent some time in the UAE or dubai or something. So it is unusual. Besides I can think of a couple master-pupeteers that are concievably busting a gut laughing right now.


I seem to remember someone from Egypt, but I can't remember the name...

Why does it seem people are surprised about Catch-All having an arranged marriage, even at such a young age? That's pretty common in the Middle East/India/Pakistan as far as I remember.

I don't see why it's a big deal though.. it's a cultural/religious practice and as much as people scream "omg that's illegal here in the US", she lives in a different part of the world where this is acceptable and thats fine by me.

Actually, one of my closest female friends (who is a South African Muslim, we both live in the US) allows her parents to bring in "suitors" occassionally who she gets to know and decides if she wants to get to know them more and possibly marry, although her parents would understand if she decided to marry someone she fell in love with instead. At thiis point in her life though, she is not interested in marrying yet.

Maybe I'm just reading too much into things or spewing useless commentary.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Celtlund/BAFBJuly61968.jpg?t=1165775993
July 6, 1968. I was 25 and she was 20. We are still married to each other. :fluffle:

Why does it seem people are surprised about Catch-All having an arranged marriage, even at such a young age? That's pretty common in the Middle East/India/Pakistan as far as I remember.

I don't see why it's a big deal though.. it's a cultural/religious practice and as much as people scream "omg that's illegal here in the US", she lives in a different part of the world where this is acceptable and thats fine by me.

Why is it a "big deal"? To most North Americans and Europeans (which largely populate this forum) marrying a pre-pubescent girl to a 27-year old man more than twice her age is extremely strange. It's strange in the realm of "wrong" as opposed to strange in the realm of "odd". It is natural that people would wonder if it's possible to be happy and fulfilled in such a situation.

Nope, not married.

Why is it a "big deal"? To most North Americans and Europeans (which largely populate this forum) marrying a pre-pubescent girl to a 27-year old man more than twice her age is extremely strange. It's strange in the realm of "wrong" as opposed to strange in the realm of "odd". It is natural that people would wonder if it's possible to be happy and fulfilled in such a situation.

Well then these people who seem to think it's a "big deal" need to go out and learn about some of the world's culture.

If it's part of another culture or religion, then I don't see why it's "strange" or "odd". Just accept that, while you may not approve of it, it's not your/mine/our place to judge or think bad or whatnot of that.

Most states in the US have an age of consent of 18, whereas most European countries have an age of consent of 16, some even 14.

Actually, most US states have it at 16

14 states set it at 18 (this includes the 6 states where it's 16 for one gender, 18 for the other)

8 states set it at 17

28 states set it at 16 (this includes the 2 states where it's 14 for one gender, 16 for the other)

Well then these people who seem to think it's a "big deal" need to go out and learn about some of the world's culture.

If it's part of another culture or religion, then I don't see why it's "strange" or "odd". Just accept that, while you may not approve of it, it's not your/mine/our place to judge or think bad or whatnot of that.It's my place to "think bad" whatever I think is bad. Sure, moral reletivism and all that, but to an extent. Just because cannibalism, human sacrifice, and female genital mutilation is part of someone's culture and religion does not make those practices any less repugnant. I can learn and understand these practices without accepting them as normative.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Celtlund/BAFBJuly61968.jpg?t=1165775993
July 6, 1968. I was 25 and she was 20. We are still married to each other. :fluffle:

why are you stealing that cake :D

Actually, most US states have it at 16

14 states set it at 18 (this includes the 6 states where it's 16 for one gender, 18 for the other)

8 states set it at 17

28 states set it at 16 (this includes the 2 states where it's 14 for one gender, 16 for the other)

Thanks for the info :)

why are you stealing that cake :D

We put the cake in a can, sealed it up very well, and opened it up 10 years later. DUST, we eneded up with a can of dust. :(

We put the cake in a can, sealed it up very well, and opened it up 10 years later. DUST, we eneded up with a can of dust. :(

:(

I doubt I'll ever get married, and I don't really intend to, let alone any time soon. I'm one of the most solitary and independent people I know, but that may be because I don't really know many people, who knows...

Anyway, I've got to get through uni first and I don't really see myself being in a long term relationship as I think them too restrictive, though I've never had a boyfriend so I wouldn't really know. Still, I'm only 16 and I've just started college, so my future's kinda flexible at the moment. Unless you're a determinist or something. Anyway, back to homework...

We put the cake in a can, sealed it up very well, and opened it up 10 years later. DUST, we eneded up with a can of dust. :(

even the plastic people :eek: (perhaps someone ate the cake a swapped it with dust?)

even the plastic people :eek: (perhaps someone ate the cake a swapped it with dust?)

Nope. We took the plaster bride and groom off before we sealed the cake. We still have that...somewhere.

I have what I call the "Groucho Marx" approach to marriage: I would never belong to a club that would have me as a member.

Are you married?
yep
If so, what is your husband/wife like?
he is a big nerd, he's cute though.

How old were you when you got married?
I was 18 and he was 25
What was your wedding like?


we eloped, grabbed a few friends, and went out at midnight and got married in a park.

I'm not married, but if what my mother tells me is correct, my boyfriend plans to propose after I graduate college in 2012. Right now I'm 18, he's 22. He's a great guy, passionate about what he wants in life, intelligent, and caring.

Are you married?
yep
If so, what is your husband/wife like?
he is a big nerd, he's cute though.

How old were you when you got married?
I was 18 and he was 25
What was your wedding like?


we eloped, grabbed a few friends, and went out at midnight and got married in a park.

I showed mine, so you need to show yours Smun. No, not that! The wedding picture. :)

I showed mine, so you need to show yours Smun. No, not that! The wedding picture. :)

we only have one :( I TG'd it to you.

Are you married? If so, what is your husband/wife like? How old were you when you got married? What was your wedding like?
If not, do you ever plan to get married?

Technically, yes, still married.

My wife can be a major pain, but then so can I. :headbang:

I was 25 and my wife was 24.

My wedding was terribly traditional. We split up after 5 years, and only just got back together after a year apart.

Are you married?

Yes

If so, what is your wife like?

She's lovely and gorgeous. She's also the grandaughter of a Russian Orthodox priest, and the great-grandaughter of minor Russian nobility who went into exile during the 1917 revolution.

How old were you when you got married?

35

What was your wedding like?

Traditional Russian Orthodox wedding, about 60 guests, with a knees-up at a cocktail party afterwards.

No and no. I find the idea of marriage repulsive, at least in its traditional form.

No, but I hope to eventually, I guess. Although relationship-related activities don't seem to going that smoothly for me lately... :(

No, boys are stupid. We should throw rocks at them. Although, the Vaseline thread has given me some interesting ideas.

Not married yet.






Not planning on it anytime soon.

No.


Next question!

I'm single, and plan to stay single - until my GF tells me otherwise.

No, I am not married. I can see myself having a long-term partner, but I don't see marriage as being necessary.

Are you married? If so, what is your husband/wife like? How old were you when you got married? What was your wedding like?
If not, do you ever plan to get married?

Yes.
She's hot.
This is my third wife. I was 41 when I married this one.
We got married at a courthouse in a simple ceremony.
Marriage is not for everyone. And with marriage comes the possibility of divorce (which is no fun, let me tell you).

I got married 2 months ago. I am 29 and she is 28. She is a good woman. We got married in a vineyard on a gorgoeus autumn day in front of a pond. You never run out of wine when you are married in a vineyard.

Not married, not planning to marry any time soon. I dislike what marriage represents in my culture, so I don't think it would be appropriate for me to get married. If civil unions or other legal unions become an option then I might go for that sort of thing, or I might get married if I moved somewhere else where marriage doesn't carry a lot of the baggage that it does in my country.

No, boys are stupid. We should throw rocks at them. Although, the Vaseline thread has given me some interesting ideas.
:eek: Have you seen this (http://www.davidandgoliathtees.com/games/throwrocks.html)? Perhaps it will make you feel better.

I'll be married in April (officially), but I've been practically married for at least 3 years now.

My fiance is awesome. =)

Not married, not planning to marry any time soon. I dislike what marriage represents in my culture, so I don't think it would be appropriate for me to get married. If civil unions or other legal unions become an option then I might go for that sort of thing, or I might get married if I moved somewhere else where marriage doesn't carry a lot of the baggage that it does in my country.

Marriage seems to be a legal and social contract, whose roots are really in much more ancient societies. You know, back in the day when families made contracts with one another, needed a formal recognition of inheritance, and women and children were chattel property.

It has been heavily romanticized in recent times, and the legal aspects of it are a real mess - just look at the legal complexity of divorce.

I'm married, but that's because it's terribly complex (from a legal standpoint) to have children without it, and women generally won't have children with you without a piece of paper implying your commitment.

I say, if gays want to be part of the churning maelstrom that is marriage today, including the custody fights and divorce, then by all means, invite them to jump into the fray.

A lot of them will be really sorry they did.