NationStates Jolt Archive


Rural or Urban?

[NS]SpudCommando
09-12-2006, 01:50
Where would you prefer to live? The countryside, the suburbs, or in the middle of major cities? I prefer Urban areas, by urban areas, I mean of course places like New York or Hong Kong.
Vetalia
09-12-2006, 01:51
If "suburban" falls under rural, then that's where I would like to live. I'm not a fan either of living in big cities or in the middle of farm country.
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 01:55
Urban, but not suburban. Suburbs just suck the fun right out of everything.
Ashmoria
09-12-2006, 01:57
rural

i dont understand how people live in the big city. too little space, too many people.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 02:00
I'm definitely a city girl. Couldn't live in the country.
Swilatia
09-12-2006, 02:01
urban.
Saxnot
09-12-2006, 02:11
I can't understand why people would want to live in urban areas; I've lived all my life in rural or very suburban areas, then came to Sheffield. The people are nice, certainly, but the environment itself is distinctly depressing inside the city centre. :(
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 02:11
Lets just say I am LOVING not living in a crappy basement apartment in Brooklyn. I now am in a smallish town, I guess, or a tiny, tiny, tiny city. It's cool. We have grass and trees and stuff.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 02:13
I can't understand why people would want to live in urban areas; I've lived all my life in rural or very suburban areas, then came to Sheffield. The people are nice, certainly, but the environment itself is distinctly depressing inside the city centre. :(

Yea, but Sheffield is a dump
Chandelier
09-12-2006, 02:20
I live in a rapidly expanding suburban area. We have, I think, more than 2000 families and growing and we have a relatively new city hall. We have plenty of places to shop and eat out, a hospital, several high schools, and a branch of a local community college out here. And we're only about 30-40 miles away from the beach, which means that we're close enough that we can get to the beach in a reasonable amount of time but far enough away that we're out of the main flood zones should a hurricane hit our area.

Edit: :eek: Whoa! The "2000 families" was the estimated population when I moved here maybe 6 years ago. Now it's 5500 households! I guess that's how rapidly it's expanding.
Cabra West
09-12-2006, 02:21
Urban. I come from a small town and simply hated it.
Monkeypimp
09-12-2006, 02:23
I live in the suburbs, but I'm 10 minutes drive at the most away from the CBD of my city. I wouldn't mind living in a suburb that is resonable walking distance, but if I don't want to bother with parking or whatever I have the bus or train into the city easily enough.
Ralina
09-12-2006, 02:27
I have lived in the suburbs, rural areas and the city.

The city is by far the best. There are so many things to do, there are lots of people around, social networking is made so much easier. Cities have public transportation (which means you can read or sleep on the way to school/work.

The worst was living out in the country. There is nothing out there...no grocery stores, no jobs...it just means you have to drive longer to get to work...and you have to plan every errand around "being in town" because once you are home, you are not going anywhere.

That said, the one thing I dont like about the city is when your appartment building wont turn the heat on, despite the fact that it's been -12C every day. At night I can see my breath and have to type with gloves on...and I know the heater is working because the thing turns on ONCE a day in the morning when I am waking up (thank god.)
Wallonochia
09-12-2006, 02:27
I honestly have no idea. The largest town I've lived in is the one I live in now, and it has about 25-30,000 people. I've visited urban areas, but have never lived in them.

I'm moving to a rather larger town in Febrary (150,000 in the city, 270,000 in the "metro" area) so that'll be an interesting change of pace.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 02:28
Why do people differentiate between the city and the suburbs?
Bumboat
09-12-2006, 02:29
Urban, definitely go for the big cities.
Saxnot
09-12-2006, 02:29
Yea, but Sheffield is a dump

There's a lot to do and the people are nice, but it's not exactly pretty. And I can't immediately walk into fields. That's my main gripe.

Also; there's an enormous wave of difference between inner-city areas and suburbs... how could one not consider them as seperate entities?
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 02:33
There's a lot to do and the people are nice, but it's not exactly pretty. And I can't immediately walk into fields. That's my main gripe.

You would like Belfast then...aside from the fact you can see fields from anywhere in the city, you can get to them in no time.

Also; there's an enormous wave of difference between inner-city areas and suburbs... how could one not consider them as seperate entities?

Sure there's a difference, but they're both in the city...just different parts of the city.
Wallonochia
09-12-2006, 02:36
Sure there's a difference, but they're both in the city...just different parts of the city.

That depends on the city. In Detroit people make great pains to differentiate between the suburbs and the city.
Chandelier
09-12-2006, 02:37
Sure there's a difference, but they're both in the city...just different parts of the city.

Well, I guess some suburbs are outside of the city limits, but just have the nearest city's name on the mailing adress. I know mine are at least 10 miles outside of the city limits, but that city is still listed as the address (although I suppose that may change if we become a separate town someday. There has been some talk of that happening in the not-to-distant-but-not-too-close future). So I suppose that's the difference.
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 02:38
Why do people differentiate between the city and the suburbs?

Cause they are incredibly different?

Urban:
http://www.ny-links.com/images/nyc_city_above1_350_drop.jpg

suburban:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6//vegassuburb.jpg
Celtlund
09-12-2006, 02:45
SpudCommando;12057705']Where would you prefer to live? I prefer Urban areas, by urban areas, I mean of course places like New York or Hong Kong.

Poll, where is the poll? When you do the poll don't forget suburban. Should be Urban, Suburban, or Rural.

That said;
1. Rural because - I don't want to look out my bedroom window any more and look into my neighbors kitchen. :eek: I don't want to listen to my neighbors dogs barking in my window. :mad:

2. Second choice is suburban, but only if my house is on a minimum of 3/4 acre. Why? See #1.

Urban? Hell no I hate apartments and crowds. :(
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 02:46
Cause they are incredibly different?

Urban:
http://www.ny-links.com/images/nyc_city_above1_350_drop.jpg

suburban:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6//vegassuburb.jpg

Yea, we don't even have the same distinction, then....

Here, suburbs are just residential areas that aren't in the city centre, and you'd still say they were in the city, just residential areas of the city. Never even seen anything like the second picture.
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 02:51
Yea, we don't even have the same distinction, then....

Here, suburbs are just residential areas that aren't in the city centre, and you'd still say they were in the city, just residential areas of the city. Never even seen anything like the second picture.

It sounds like you'd consider the outer boroughs of NYC (Brooklyn, The Bronx, etc.) suburban. Stupid nuances of languange being different in different places.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:01
I might well do, yea.
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 03:05
I might well do, yea.

I hope you're pointing out other differences in language usage, cause if you're not, I'm gonna feel dumb.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:07
I hope you're pointing out other differences in language usage, cause if you're not, I'm gonna feel dumb.

Depends what those other differences are?
Saxnot
09-12-2006, 03:13
Never even seen anything like the second picture.

Mmm, I think it's a fundamental difference between the way towns are in our two countries; in the US, what with the relative recentness of their building the towns tend to be very planned, as well as being geared more towards automobular (not a word, but you get my point) transport. In the UK the cities have grown rather more naturally over many centuries. (Except Milton Keynes.)
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 03:15
Never even seen anything like the second picture.

Because Europe is hawt. :rolleyes:
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:18
Mmm, I think it's a fundamental difference between the way towns are in our two countries; in the US, what with the relative recentness of their building the towns tend to be very planned, as well as being geared more towards automobular (not a word, but you get my point) transport. In the UK the cities have grown rather more naturally over many centuries. (Except Milton Keynes.)

Well, in Northern Ireland we've got "planned towns" like Limavady, Coleraine, Londonderry....but only planned in the sense that they were founded in the 1600s during the Ulster plantation and the town was laid out then. These days, only the town centre looks "planned" the rest has developed like a normal city or town.

But I suppose you're right, just the way settlements have grown over time.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:19
Because Europe is hawt. :rolleyes:

Nah, it's pretty cold these days. Heading in to winter, see.
Swilatia
09-12-2006, 03:19
Because Europe is hawt. :rolleyes:

whta?
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 03:20
Nah, it's pretty cold these days. Heading in to winter, see.

Yes, theres that.
And hawt = sophisticated. ;)
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:23
Yes, theres that.
And hawt = sophisticated. ;)

Ah ok. I still don't get your point though :confused:
Celtlund
09-12-2006, 03:24
Yea, we don't even have the same distinction, then....

Here, suburbs are just residential areas that aren't in the city centre, and you'd still say they were in the city, just residential areas of the city. Never even seen anything like the second picture.

Suburbs are not residental areas in the city center. Suburbs are towns or cities that are residetial areas that surround the city.

The second picture is a suburb that is very common in the US. A lot of the houses are 12 to 18 feet apart. :) Come visit us sometine and take a drive through the suburbs especially those near large cities.

My wife and I are buying some property in Loisiana and will put a house on it when we retire in 2 1/2 years. The property is one acre in a rural area. The property on one side is one acre and 1 1/2 acres on the other side.

Currently our home is in a suburb of Tulasa, Oklahoma. The lot is about .25 acre and the house on out left is about 18 feet from our house. :( The house on our left is about 30 or 40 feet away.

I like a city because of the shopping, resteraunts, and cultural diversity but I don't like the noise and crowds. Our home in Louisiana will be about 15 to 20 miles from the city. Close enough to enjoy the benefits of an urban area, but far enough away to enjoy the peace and quitet of the country. :)
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 03:25
Ah ok. I still don't get your point though :confused:

You guys don't build row upon row upon row of blockey houses that all look exactly the same do you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg/400px-Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg
This is in the town where I live.
Celtlund
09-12-2006, 03:28
You guys don't build row upon row upon row of blockey houses that all look exactly the same do you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg/400px-Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg
This is in the town where I live.

In most places no. Sometimes the design is changed a little bit. However, the "brownstones" in Boston and New York all look exactly alike, very similar to the picture only closer together.
Intra-Muros
09-12-2006, 03:29
Rural, most definitely. I would rather own a good deal of property surrounding my abode, than be squashed vertically into a steel tower. Plus, its hard to plant potatoes in the city.
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 03:30
In most places no. Sometimes the design is changed a little bit. However, the "brownstones" in Boston and New York all look exactly alike, very similar to the picture only closer together.

But brownstones are cool, and suburbs are not.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:31
Suburbs are not residental areas in the city center. Suburbs are towns or cities that are residetial areas that surround the city.

No, I didn't say residential areas in the city centre. Those, and residential areas closely surrounding the CBD are inner city. The rest is suburbs, still very much party of the city. We wouldn't call towns or cities near the main city suburbs...just nearby towns or cities.

Same word for different things, s'all.

The second picture is a suburb that is very common in the US. A lot of the houses are 12 to 18 feet apart. :) Come visit us sometine and take a drive through the suburbs especially those near large cities.

The only US city I've been out of the city centre in is Pittsburgh, but I didn't go that far from the city centre. Next time I'm over I'll have to take a look more.

My wife and I are buying some property in Loisiana and will put a house on it when we retire in 2 1/2 years. The property is one acre in a rural area. The property on one side is one acre and 1 1/2 acres on the other side.

Currently our home is in a suburb of Tulasa, Oklahoma. The lot is about .25 acre and the house on out left is about 18 feet from our house. :( The house on our left is about 30 or 40 feet away.

I like a city because of the shopping, resteraunts, and cultural diversity but I don't like the noise and crowds. Our home in Louisiana will be about 15 to 20 miles from the city. Close enough to enjoy the benefits of an urban area, but far enough away to enjoy the peace and quitet of the country. :)

Sounds really nice :)
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 03:33
But brownstones are cool, and suburbs are not.

http://www.samueljohnson.com/blog/images/large040518.jpg

You are korrect!
I wouldn't mind living in one of these.
Infinite Revolution
09-12-2006, 03:35
i couldn't decide. sometimes i'd like to live in the country with lots of land and a quadbike to tear around in. sometimes i want to be in the city (centre) near all the clubs and bars so i don't have to leave early to catch the last bus home. most of the time i just want to live by the beach.

but in all honesty i couldn't care less where i live as long as i am near my friends. i'm really bad at keeping in touch with people so unless my friends are near by i'd have next to no contact with them. i even have friends in this city (small as it is) who i haven't seen in months.
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 03:35
http://www.samueljohnson.com/blog/images/large040518.jpg

You are korrect!
I wouldn't mind living in one of these.

They go for a couple million dollars, at least, in my old neighborhood.:rolleyes:

They aren't quite worth it, but they are very awesome.
Nadkor
09-12-2006, 03:35
You guys don't build row upon row upon row of blockey houses that all look exactly the same do you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg/400px-Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg
This is in the town where I live.

Not really. There are some cities/towns that have a few areas a bit like that, but they're usually inter-war or post-war developments when money was tight. And, of course, the terraces of the Victorian era.

But yea....we have suburbs, they're just not the same as has been described. Usually residential areas considered to be in the city, rather than surrounding towns that are mostly residential. Like I say, they're just nearby towns...like with Belfast we have...Lisburn, Bangor, Carrickfergus, Newtonards etc., but they wouldn't really be considered suburbs. They're considered seperate towns (and in the case of Lisburn, a city) in their own right.
Socialist Pyrates
09-12-2006, 03:36
I like them all
-cities, lot's of things to see and do, everything you need is there....I live in a city of a million but have only gone into the city center maybe once a year...

-small towns, in Europe I love them, quieter than cities but only a quick train ride from excitement...

-rural, great place to unwind, boring after awhile.....
Celtlund
09-12-2006, 03:48
http://www.samueljohnson.com/blog/images/large040518.jpg

You are korrect!
I wouldn't mind living in one of these.

I wouldn't mind living one either as long as my neighbors did not;
1. play loud mucic.
2. did not have a dog that barks.
3. did not have loud parties.
4. did not have loud arguements.
5. did not own a motorcycle and come home at midnight or go to work before 6 AM.
Posi
09-12-2006, 03:50
You guys don't build row upon row upon row of blockey houses that all look exactly the same do you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg/400px-Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg
This is in the town where I live.

My god that is ebil. I live in a Vancouver suburb. They look nothing like that.
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 03:52
My god that is ebil. I live in a Vancouver suburb. They look nothing like that.

Kurse you Vancouverites! *shakes fist*
Kiryu-shi
09-12-2006, 04:03
I wouldn't mind living one either as long as my neighbors did not;
1. play loud mucic.
2. did not have a dog that barks.
3. did not have loud parties.
4. did not have loud arguements.
5. did not own a motorcycle and come home at midnight or go to work before 6 AM.

Most brownstones tend to be quiet compared to other city-buildings. Usually upper class, bigger homes (more places to escape noise), less neighbors (one family per building), and maybe thicker walls, although thats just a guess on my part.
Wallonochia
09-12-2006, 04:14
My god that is ebil. I live in a Vancouver suburb. They look nothing like that.

They look something like that here. Note that this isn't where I live, I live about 150 miles from any urban center. Also, I have no idea what the green hue is caused by.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=wyoming+michigan&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=42.908844,-85.689358&spn=0.003536,0.010815&t=k&om=1
[NS]SpudCommando
09-12-2006, 04:37
Poll, where is the poll? When you do the poll don't forget suburban. Should be Urban, Suburban, or Rural.

That said;
1. Rural because - I don't want to look out my bedroom window any more and look into my neighbors kitchen. :eek: I don't want to listen to my neighbors dogs barking in my window. :mad:

2. Second choice is suburban, but only if my house is on a minimum of 3/4 acre. Why? See #1.

Urban? Hell no I hate apartments and crowds. :(

I knew I forgot something! Or maybe it's just my subconscious bias against suburbs in general coming into play. The uniformity of suburban areas here in SoCal is slightly disturbing to me.
Maraque
09-12-2006, 06:14
I pick urban. I lived in the inner-city ghettos in New Jersey, to going out to the relatively wealthy suburbs of New York, and then moved out here to Manhattan and love every bit of it. The suburbs stink.
Boonytopia
09-12-2006, 07:00
Urban.
Andaluciae
09-12-2006, 07:03
I'd prefer my own personal gigantic estate, with a million servants to tend to my every whim. :D
Congo--Kinshasa
09-12-2006, 07:03
I live in the suburbs, which is definitely nice because it's quiet, peaceful, and safe - I can walk outside at any hour of the day without fear - but it's almost entirely white, and I miss the diversity of living in the city. :(

Although, if it were up to me, I'd live out in the country with the woman I loved, a few pets, and no one else. :D
Congo--Kinshasa
09-12-2006, 07:04
I'd prefer my own personal gigantic estate, with a million servants to tend to my every whim. :D

I'll be your butler! :D




Does the job pay well?
Andaluciae
09-12-2006, 07:07
I'll be your butler! :D




Does the job pay well?

3.2 Million US Dollars per year, if you do a good job. If you do a poor job it's a meager 2.8. :D

The responsibility is immense, you'll have to keep your eyes on the liquor cabinet and the homebrew.



That's the kind of job I'd want :D
New Xero Seven
09-12-2006, 07:10
3.2 Million US Dollars per year

Which you borrowed from ME and never returned!!!!!!1111
Congo--Kinshasa
09-12-2006, 07:15
3.2 Million US Dollars per year, if you do a good job. If you do a poor job it's a meager 2.8. :D

The responsibility is immense, you'll have to keep your eyes on the liquor cabinet and the homebrew.



That's the kind of job I'd want :D

*hastily fills out resume*
Poliwanacraca
09-12-2006, 07:32
Having lived in places on nearly every point in the spectrum, I can say that urban settings are dirty, noisy, and sometimes scary, suburbs are homogenous and boring, and rural life involves a great deal of inconvenience.

Luckily, while all of these are less than ideal, there remains what I see as the perfect solution - small towns! The best place I ever lived was a beautiful apartment (which would have cost three times as much had it been located in a big city) within walking distance of a small grocery, a drugstore, an ice cream parlor, several restaurants, a one-screen movie theatre, and the homes of several of my friends. The nearest semi-major city was an hour and a half away; the nearest major city was three hours away. If I could have lived there forever, I would have been utterly content. :)
Kanabia
09-12-2006, 09:12
Urban. Ideally closer to the city than where I live now, though. And as long as it was a semi-spacious area.

I couldn't stand rural surroundings. They're nice for a holiday, but if I lived there, I'd go batshit with nothing to do. (that, and the employment available in rural Australia is absolutely fantastic...not)
Kyronea
09-12-2006, 09:15
SpudCommando;12057705']Where would you prefer to live? The countryside, the suburbs, or in the middle of major cities? I prefer Urban areas, by urban areas, I mean of course places like New York or Hong Kong.
Rural areas, of course. Sure, it can take a while to get to any services, but that's the beauty of it.
The South Islands
09-12-2006, 09:19
I'm a rural guy. Back home in the UP, I lived in the middle of ass nowhere. Near 25 miles to the nearest town of any respectible size. Neighbors were a mile or more away. Easy travelling distance, but not enough that any shooting or illegal fireworks would be bothersome.

It's so quiet and peaceful in the country. Wildlife is plentiful. The air is clean. And the stars. Oh, the stars. The stars shine like diamonds on a black cloth out in the country. I'm a country guy, through and through.
Wilgrove
09-12-2006, 09:43
rural areas baby!
Unabashed Greed
09-12-2006, 09:47
Give me the city. I tried living in a rural setting (an island to boot) and it was as close to hell on earth I could imagine I could get to without being surrounded by fire. I HATE the country, and I will never move away from the city ever again.
Michaelic France
09-12-2006, 21:03
Definately an urban area, they are the centers of culture. Towns are backwards, culturally and intellectually. Communism will work towards centralizing the countryside until the division between city and town will not exist.