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Rhaomi
08-12-2006, 03:06
I know this is long, but bear with me. I wanted do something special for my 1000th post, and this is it. It pretty much sums up what I think about humanity, the world, and the perspective the former should have on the latter. Think of it as the more serious adjunct to this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507071).

And away we go:



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Suddenly, from behind the rim of the Moon, in long, slow-motion moments of immense majesty, there emerges a sparkling blue and white jewel, a light, delicate sky-blue sphere laced with slowly swirling veils of white, rising gradually like a small pearl in a thick sea of black mystery. It takes more than a moment to fully realize this is Earth… home.
— Edgar Mitchell

The most moving sight in the universe is not a famous painting or a great canyon or a fertile valley in the spring. It is all of these and more – simply: the planet Earth, seen from space.

To fly in space is to see the reality of Earth, alone. The experience changed my life and my attitude toward life itself. I am one of the lucky ones.
— Roberta Bondar

Evidencing this is the testimony of those lucky few who have been able to journey beyond the confines of our world and thus see it as it truly is. Upon breaking free of Earth's gravity and reaching the fabled heavens, they could not help but look back – and what they saw changed them irrevocably.

As we got further and further away, Earth diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful you can imagine. That beautiful, warm, living object looked so fragile, so delicate, that if you touched it with a finger it would crumble and fall apart. Seeing this has to change a man.
— James B. Irwin

What did they see? They saw the universe. Rather, they saw our universe. Everything we know and love, everything we care about, everything that riles us up and gets us down. They saw the totality of nature and all its works: the oceans and rainforests teeming with life, the vast deserts and the impenetrable mountains. They saw humanity as well – the sparkle of cities in the twilight, where innumerable people lived, worked, fought, and starved.

All of this wrapped in a solitary disc of blue light. Every house, every road, every beach and riverbank, every school and supermarket and garden and sacred place – all there, in a disc the size of a quarter.

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
— Neil Armstrong

The Earth was small, light blue, and so touchingly alone... our home must be defended like a holy relic.
— Aleksei Leonov


This incredible sight changed them, every single one. Unlike us, toiling ignorant in the selfish societies below, they saw the truth.

It’s beyond imagination until you actually get up and see it and experience it and feel it.
— Willie McCool

In outer space you develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, "Look at that, you son of a bitch!"
— Edgar Mitchell

To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.
— Stephen Hawking

They realized that out world is incredibly fragile and precious – fragile, precious, and alone. Because, while our entire universe is wrapped up in that small circle of life, the circle itself is surrounded by a vast, cold, and uncaring darkness.

I raised the visor on my helmet cover and looked out to try to identify constellations. As I looked out into space, I was overwhelmed by the darkness. I felt the flesh crawl on my back and the hair rise on my neck.
— William Pogue

It was a texture. The blackness was so intense.
— Charles Duke

I looked and looked but I didn't see God.
— Yuri Gagarin

There is a certain imbalance here. There is a sense that we are putting all our eggs in one basket.

Earth is too small a basket for mankind to keep all its eggs in.
— Robert A. Heinlein

Consider that everything you know clings to this rock, everything outside of an astronomy textbook. Your family and friends, the institutions you depend on, your home and all the places you've been, your sources of entertainment, all of your possessions and your dreams for the future. They are all here, and will remain here. On a single rock.

Below was a welcoming planet. There, contained in the thin, moving, incredibly fragile shell of the biosphere is everything that is dear to you, all the human drama and comedy. That's where life is; that's were all the good stuff is.
— Loren Acton

Pile on top of that everything that makes life as you know it possible. The vast fields of grain, the energy resources, the liquid water and oceans of air. The flowers and birds and insects and bacteria, the food chains and niches and biomes. All so interdependent, so vulnerable, so unique.

As I looked down, I saw a large river meandering slowly along for miles, passing from one country to another without stopping. I also saw huge forests, extending along several borders. And I watched the extent of one ocean touch the shores of separate continents. Two words leaped to mind as I looked down on all this: commonality and interdependence. We are one world.
— John-David Bartoe

The astronauts saw this, and realized our predicament. They realized that this is our one chance – our only chance – to get it right. We triumph or fail here. We live or die here. We create or destroy here. We make our destiny here.

They came to many conclusions – echoes of a single truth.

When I orbited the Earth in a spaceship, I saw for the first time how beautiful our planet is. Mankind, let us preserve and increase this beauty, and not destroy it!
— Yuri Gagarin

The world itself looks cleaner and so much more beautiful. Maybe we can make it that way — the way God intended it to be — by giving everybody that new perspective from out in space.
— Roger B Chaffee

For those who have seen the Earth from space, and for the hundreds and perhaps thousands more who will, the experience most certainly changes your perspective. The things that we share in our world are far more valuable than those which divide us.
— Donald Williams

They saw that we are in this together. That what we do affects everyone else, for better or worse. That the playing field of life is both finite and rare.

They returned to this planet changed, imbued with a new sense of hope – and urgency. They realized that humanity is at a pivotal moment in world history. Collectively, we wield immense power. We can remake the world in our own image, or destroy it many times over. We can work to protect our planet’s treasures for future generations, or drown it all in a deluge of pollutants.

But moreso than that, we are at a crossroads in our evolutionary history. For the vast majority of our time here we have been grounded, forced to make do with the conditions we find ourselves in on Earth. That is why war and disease and global warming are such threats – we are all here, all equally vulnerable to the same fatal blows.

However, we now for the first time have the ability to change all that. We have the opportunity to spread humanity throughout space, ensuring our survival for all time. It may sound like a pointless endeavor, something better left to our children’s children. But the importance of this mission cannot be denied. The astronauts (and those like them) have all reached the same conclusions. They know what we must do.

Many say exploration is part of our destiny, but it's actually our duty to future generations and their quest to ensure the survival of the human species.
— Buzz Aldrin

A new space race has begun, and most Americans are not even aware of it. This race is not [about] political prestige or military power. This new race involves the whole human species in a contest against time.
— Ben Bova

If our long-term survival is at stake, we have a basic responsibility to our species to venture to other worlds. Sailors on a becalmed sea, we sense the stirring of a breeze.
— Carl Sagan

So, people, always keep this in mind. Remember that behind the issues and stories of the day, there lies this critical problem – this challenge to be overcome. Remember that conquering the world – whether with science, politics, or faith – is pointless if we destroy the only world we have in the process. Remember that, in the face of the void around us, we share far more than what we are divided by. And finally, we must overcome the forces of ignorance and hatred and stagnation, and instead work to unite and forge into that void in order to reach our common goals and achieve our common dreams.

We went to the Moon as technicians; we returned as humanitarians.
— Edgar Mitchell.

Here's hoping that we all remember the wisdom of the astronauts. ;)
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 03:08
Soo... much... text... Can't... be... arsed... to... read... beyond... first... paragraph.
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:09
Edgar Mitchell was a kook, Buzz Aldrin was a drunk, Neil Armstrong had all the personallity of a stone, and Jim Irwin was a fundimentalist Christian.

Oh, and Pete Conrad (not mentioned here) was insane.
Turquoise Days
08-12-2006, 03:09
I know this is long, but bear with me. I wanted do something special for my 1000th post, and this is it. It pretty much sums up what I think about humanity, the world, and the perspective the former should have on the latter. Think of it as the more serious adjunct to this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507071).

And away we go:



Here's hoping that we all remember the wisdom of the astronauts. ;)

That's pretty cool, did you write it?
Trotskylvania
08-12-2006, 03:10
Bravo! Wonderful 1000th post. BTW, when's the next meeting of the parallel government?
Dododecapod
08-12-2006, 03:10
Edgar Mitchell was a kook, Buzz Ardin was a drunk, Neil Armstrong had all the personallity of a stone, and Jim Irwin was a fundimentalist Christian.

And they were all completely right.
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:14
And they were all completely right.

Rather suprising for a bunch of egghead military officers, no?
Rhaomi
08-12-2006, 03:17
Soo... much... text... Can't... be... arsed... to... read... beyond... first... paragraph.
'Preciate it. :rolleyes:

That's pretty cool, did you write it?
Yais.

Bravo! Wonderful 1000th post. BTW, when's the next meeting of the parallel government?
As soon as the Parallel Congress comes to a vote on the issues we already presented. It's in their hands now...
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 03:19
'Preciate it. :rolleyes:

I did read a bit further on afterwards, but the platitudes and clichés nauseated me so I had to stop.
Barbaric Tribes
08-12-2006, 03:27
thats pretty intense, congrats on the post!
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:29
BTW, T minus 9:00 and counting on STS-116
Turquoise Days
08-12-2006, 03:31
BTW, T minus 9:00 and counting on STS-116

Sweet, it's live on the BBC website!

EDIT: Aww, too cloudy. :(
Rhaomi
08-12-2006, 03:31
BTW, T minus 9:00 and counting on STS-116
How fortuitous...

(But seriously, I didn't know that. *tunes in*)
Novus-America
08-12-2006, 03:32
I believe the wisdom of the Shepard's Prayer, Alan Shepard.

"Please, dear Lord, don't let me fuck up."
Rhaomi
08-12-2006, 03:34
I believe the wisdom of the Shepard's Prayer, Alan Shepard.

"Please, dear Lord, don't let me fuck up."

*looks at postcount*

You should expound on that and turn it into your celebratory 100th post. :p

EDIT: The shuttle launch has been scrubbed? :(
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:38
Stupid Weather.

The cloud ceiling was too low during the launch window. So I guess they'll try again at the next window.
Turquoise Days
08-12-2006, 03:40
Stupid Weather.

The cloud ceiling was too low during the launch window. So I guess they'll try again at the next window.
Presumably that would be sometime tomorrow?
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:43
Presumably that would be sometime tomorrow?

I donno. I've been watching NASA tv streamed, and it seems to me that the next launch window is sometime in the next week.

Launch windows for spacecraft docking with the ISS are very defined and narrow.
Wallonochia
08-12-2006, 03:44
To fly in space is to see the reality of Earth, alone. The experience changed my life and my attitude toward life itself. I am one of the lucky ones.
— Roberta Bondar

Ah, so that's who Roberta Bondar was. When I lived in Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan there was a big building in Sault Sainte Marie, Ontario named after her and I'd always wondered who she was. I'd forgotten the name until just now.
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:45
Fass should be interested in this launch, as one of it's crew is the first Swedish astronaut.
Turquoise Days
08-12-2006, 03:48
I donno. I've been watching NASA tv streamed, and it seems to me that the next launch window is sometime in the next week.

Launch windows for spacecraft docking with the ISS are very defined and narrow.

BBC site says tomorrows conditions are a 30% chance of favourable weather, so there may be a window then. Doesn't look too good though.
Rhaomi
08-12-2006, 03:49
When I lived in Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan...

"Hey Sault Ste Marie, you 'saint' gonna beat the Saginaw Spirit. And way to name your city after one of the worst saints. The debate over her canonization was notoriously contentious and the quality of her miracles was dubious at best. Boo Yah!"
-- Stephen Colbert

:p
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:51
BBC site says tomorrows conditions are a 30% chance of favourable weather, so there may be a window then. Doesn't look too good though.

I don't think it's so much about the weather as it is the orbit of the ISS.

Unfortunately, I am a total n00b when it comes to Orbital Mechanics and Rendezvous. But it would be awesome if they had it tomarrow.
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:52
"Hey Sault Ste Marie, you 'saint' gonna beat the Saginaw Spirit. And way to name your city after one of the worst saints. The debate over her canonization was notoriously contentious and the quality of her miracles was dubious at best. Boo Yah!"
-- Stephen Colbert

:p

Way to catch on to the crazy yooper spelling! Good job, Rhaomi.
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 03:52
Fass should be interested in this launch, as one of it's crew is the first Swedish astronaut.

Oh, it's the reason for which I hope the thing blows up. I am so sick and tired of Fuglesang or whatshisname...
Turquoise Days
08-12-2006, 03:53
Oh, it's the reason for which I hope the thing blows up. I am so sick and tired of Fuglesang or whatshisname...

You've heard of him then?
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 03:54
Oh, it's the reason for which I hope the thing blows up. I am so sick and tired of Fuglesang or whatshisname...

Christer Fuglesang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christer_Fuglesang).
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 03:56
You've heard of him then?

One might (http://www.dn.se/) say (http://www.aftonbladet.se/) that... (http://www.expressen.se/)

The papers have been like that for weeks...
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 04:00
One might (http://www.dn.se/) say (http://www.aftonbladet.se/) that... (http://www.expressen.se/)

The papers have been like that for weeks...

Yeesh.

In their defence, the first person of any nation to ride the fireball into space is quite a big occasion.
Radical Centrists
08-12-2006, 04:02
Fass should be interested in this launch, as one of it's crew is the first Swedish astronaut.
I'm surprised he isn't more enthused about this. He always did love riding rockets. ;)
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 04:03
Yeesh.

In their defence, the first person of any nation to ride the fireball into space is quite a big occasion.

The thing is, most people are unphased. Space isn't "cool" like it was in the 60s any more, but there are always hicks who buy into it and these papers, well, seem to have nothing better or actually important to give all that space to...
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 04:04
I'm surprised he isn't more enthused about this. He always did loving riding rockets. ;)

Oh, a fag joke. How refreshingly original.
Rhaomi
08-12-2006, 04:05
Let's keep the thread civil, please...
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 04:08
The thing is, most people are unphased. Space isn't "cool" like it was in the 60s any more, but there are always hicks who buy into it and these papers, well, seem to have nothing better or actually important to give all that space to...

I am a proud hick, then. :p
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 04:10
I am a proud hick, then. :p

That doesn't exactly come as a surprise.
Wallonochia
08-12-2006, 04:11
"Hey Sault Ste Marie, you 'saint' gonna beat the Saginaw Spirit. And way to name your city after one of the worst saints. The debate over her canonization was notoriously contentious and the quality of her miracles was dubious at best. Boo Yah!"
-- Stephen Colbert

:p

The Soo hockey team is on the Canuck side of the river. Between the university and junior league teams in Michigan and the Greyhounds in Canada I often watched 3 hockey games a week. And then I transferred to the only goddamned public university in the state of Michigan without a hockey team.
Radical Centrists
08-12-2006, 04:16
Oh, a fag joke. How refreshingly original.

That wasn't a fag joke, it was a Fass joke. Huge difference.
Fassigen
08-12-2006, 04:18
That wasn't a fag joke, it was a Fass joke. Huge difference.

Not when it comes to its originality or contents of funny (or rather lack thereof).
The South Islands
08-12-2006, 04:18
Ok, just heard it on NASA TV, no launch attempt on Friday, next launch attempt will be on saturday, but it's still not looking good. The eggheads at NASA Meteorology say that there's a 70% chance of weather rules violations on saturday, but next week it should be much better.