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Take that, you limey bastards!

I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...

I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...

yeah it has been a bit windy today.

yeah it has been a bit windy today.

And a tit bit nipply, too

yeah it has been a bit windy today.
Today? It's been very windy here all week.

That's uncommon. I didn't think we could even have them in England! Especially not this time of year!

And a tit bit nipply, too

Hahahah and I thought it was just me and mine that used that expression

I thought they only had them in Birmingham (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4725279.stm).

It's been blustery here lately, too. But no tornadoes/hurricanes/witches.

Originally posted byStrippers and Blow

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6217514.stm

Take that, you limey bastards!

Somehow, "Take that, you limey bastards!" made me laugh like the bastard limey that I am! Such feeling... :D At any rate, small scale tornados such as these are popping up in many strange places such as Hokkaido, Japan, and parts of the northern Kansai region. Nothing major-league at present, but time might well tell.

Somehow, "Take that, you limey bastards!" made me laugh like the bastard limey that I am! Such feeling... :D

Yeah as insults go that is a pretty strange one, and one that really can be countered only one way:

Ahh drop dead of scurvy then! You umm un-limey bastard!

right... so back to the tornado. Really weird! Wonder if it's a sign of the end of the world?!?

right... so back to the tornado. Really weird! Wonder if it's a sign of the end of the world?!?

Nope just our fucked up weather due to global warming

That's uncommon. I didn't think we could even have them in England! Especially not this time of year!
Well, per km^2, the UK is the most Tornado prone nation on earth.

Transport for London said a number 52 bus was caught up in the tornado.

LOL!

yeah...I know...I started another thread. Damn that was quick! LOL

Nope just our fucked up weather due to global warming

Well that did not take long.

Transport for London said a number 52 bus was caught up in the tornado.

LOL!

yeah...I know...I started another thread. Damn that was quick! LOL

And what is so funny about being caught up in a tornado? Be greatful it was a weak one otherwise, you would not be laughing that they got caught up in it.

And what is so funny about being caught up in a tornado? Be greatful it was a weak one otherwise, you would not be laughing that they got caught up in it.

LOL no no....this is England. And more specifically London and its wonderful TfL organisation.

I soon expect Red Ken to hold a press conference condemning global warming. Or a butterfly;)

As long as your evil tornados stay out of Ireland.......

we're supose to get them during end of the month. i didnt belief it but if london can get thwm, and london isnt a very windy place.
is it usual for england to get tornadeos?

LOL no no....this is England. And more specifically London and its wonderful TfL organisation.

I soon expect Red Ken to hold a press conference condemning global warming. Or a butterfly;)

For as you well know, there were no storms in England (or anywhere near) before the 20th century and its emissions of CO2.

We'll skip the history of how the Spanish Armada was wrecked by a large storm system.

We'll also delete the Medieval Warm Period from the history books (it doesn't fit in that hockey stick graph so we'll remove it).

For as you well know, there were no storms in England (or anywhere near) before the 20th century and its emissions of CO2.

We'll skip the history of how the Spanish Armada was wrecked by a large storm system.

We'll also delete the Medieval Warm Period from the history books (it doesn't fit in that hockey stick graph so we'll remove it).

Chaos theory much? ;)

Chaos theory much? ;)

Well, you know then how dangerous an event it was for that woman to fart on an airliner. Who knows what global disaster she's precipitated.

Well, you know then how dangerous an event it was for that woman to fart on an airliner. Who knows what global disaster she's precipitated.

LOL!!! Well put!

we're supose to get them during end of the month. i didnt belief it but if london can get thwm, and london isnt a very windy place.
is it usual for england to get tornadeos?

It sorta is you know, we have some very flat places, East Anglea for example. Although I understand that most of our tornadoes happen just off shore?

Well, per km^2, the UK is the most Tornado prone nation on earth.

I'm not entirely certain, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. The American midwest probably gets more tornadoes in a season than many places do in a decade.

Could be propaganda though ;)

It sorta is you know, we have some very flat places, East Anglea for example. Although I understand that most of our tornadoes happen just off shore?

If it happens off shore then it is called a waterspout.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6190026.stm - 27 Nov 06

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/5261392.stm
- 17 Aug 06

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6190372.stm - 28 Nov 06

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6190372.stm

Somehow, "Take that, you limey bastards!" made me laugh like the bastard limey that I am! Such feeling... :D

Hehehe. "Limey" bastard? No, it's pommy bastard.... ;)

(I think I may hang with too many Aussies for my own good...)

At any rate, small scale tornados such as these are popping up in many strange places such as Hokkaido, Japan, and parts of the northern Kansai region. Nothing major-league at present, but time might well tell.

:confused: When was there a tornado in Kansai? The only ones I remember have been in Okinawa and Hokkaido...
And welcome to the NSG Japan contingent...

As long as your evil tornados stay out of Ireland.......

I remember one up here not too long ago, and there may (or may not) have been one in county Monaghan not so long ago as well. I think.

I remember one up here not too long ago, and there may (or may not) have been one in county Monaghan not so long ago as well. I think.

No, that was some old woman farting, and trying to cover the smell up by lighting matches...

I thought they only had them in Birmingham (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4725279.stm).

It's been blustery here lately, too. But no tornadoes/hurricanes/witches.

I'll get you my pretty and your little dog too!!!

For as you well know, there were no storms in England (or anywhere near) before the 20th century and its emissions of CO2.Because tornadoes are exactly like other storms.
We'll skip the history of how the Spanish Armada was wrecked by a large storm system.Because tornadoes are exactly like other storms.
We'll also delete the Medieval Warm Period from the history books (it doesn't fit in that hockey stick graph so we'll remove it).You think that the hockey stick is the only graph out there?

You think that the hockey stick is the only graph out there?

There seem to be quite a few professors today who want to eliminate the Medieval Warm Period because it would mess up their trends.

There seem to be quite a few professors today who want to eliminate the Medieval Warm Period because it would mess up their trends.Because it isn't particularly relevant. Mind showing me a graph of it? All the ones I've seen it on, the medieval warm period is miniscule in length and amplitude compared to the one we're experiencing now.

And there's one professor I know that avoids using the real graphs of his opponents because it would mess up his argument that they were wrong ;)

Because it isn't particularly relevant. Mind showing me a graph of it? All the ones I've seen it on, the medieval warm period is miniscule in length and amplitude compared to the one we're experiencing now.

Yet it existed and was relevant.

It must be relevant to some, because now some want to discard the data entirely, lest it mess up their predictions.

Yeah my dad is stuck in London, he travelled down today on the train from Manchester and the electrical lines were hit so theres no power on a section of track. So hes now trying to get to Stafford from Marylebone Station, its sucks as my car has a flat battery and I can't jump start it as the leads are in the boot of his which is in some station car park!

Yet it existed and was relevant.

It must be relevant to some, because now some want to discard the data entirely, lest it mess up their predictions.Prove that.

Nope just our fucked up weather due to global warming

The UK experiences an estimated 50 tornadoes on land each year, putting it top of the European league.

Somehow, I don't think so...


anyway, since no one asked or made any inquiries...


are all NS'ers who live in the North London area ok?

Prove that.

Here's someone who wants to discard it entirely, and pooh pooh all previous studies

http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Bradley.pdf

Yet there are other studies here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

that show there was a warm period.

Want to discard all evidence of any warming anywhere, as stephen would prefer? Very scientific.

Here's someone who wants to discard it entirely, and pooh pooh all previous studies

http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Bradley.pdf

Yet there are other studies here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

that show there was a warm period.

Want to discard all evidence of any warming anywhere, as stephen would prefer? Very scientific.Did you read why?

Did you bother looking at the graph(s)?

Did you read why?

Did you bother looking at the graph(s)?

I've read the ice core studies that show a profound warming, as well as the studies around the Chesapeake Bay - and someone fudging the numbers in a graph doesn't impress me at all.

I've read the ice core studies that show a profound warming, as well as the studies around the Chesapeake Bay "Profound warming"? Care to show a graph on that? The most pronounced graph from the Wiki article is based on tree rings, which may be a tad less accurate than the ice core readings that have a lower graph. All in all, none of the graphs get anywhere near modern temperatures.
- and someone fudging the numbers in a graph doesn't impress me at all.Yup. Why do global warming skeptics do it, though?

"Profound warming"? Care to show a graph on that? The most pronounced graph from the Wiki article is based on tree rings, which may be a tad less accurate than the ice core readings that have a lower graph. All in all, none of the graphs get anywhere near modern temperatures.
Yup. Why do global warming skeptics do it, though?

I'm only skeptical because a few things haven't been explained to my satisfaction.

A correct (absolutely correct) temperature reading for every day around the world for the past 10,000 years would help matters immensely.

A correct (absolutely correct) measure of solar luminosity for those days.

A correct (absolutely correct) measure of atmospheric composition for those days and locations.

Urban heat island effects have never been explained to my satisfaction.

Nor has anyone explained why there have been warming periods at all.

Why the Cretaceous, for instance, was far warmer than it is now.

I'm only skeptical because a few things haven't been explained to my satisfaction.Why? The danger of being wrong about not doing anything is greater than the danger about being wrong about doing something.
A correct (absolutely correct) temperature reading for every day around the world for the past 10,000 years would help matters immensely.

A correct (absolutely correct) measure of solar luminosity for those days.

A correct (absolutely correct) measure of atmospheric composition for those days and locations.:rolleyes:
Urban heat island effects have never been explained to my satisfaction.And? There's a bunch of logical reasons why sealed surfaces are warmer.
Nor has anyone explained why there have been warming periods at all.There are cyclic warming periods that correlate to CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. These explain warming periods rather well.
Why the Cretaceous, for instance, was far warmer than it is now.The planet may not have been much warmer on average than it had been during the Triassic or Jurassic periods, but instead had a gentler temperature gradient from the equator to the poles; a side effect of this may have been weaker global winds, contributing to less upwelling and more stagnant oceans than today's.Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous#Climate)
That's based on The Dynamic Earth: An Introduction to Physical Geology, according to the wiki source list.