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(Jetta = non-hatchback Golf for you Euros who don't know)

Probably a silly topic, but meh.

For whatever reason I've always kinda liked Jettas. Not really sure why, but I do. Most of the people I associate with love to slap on the label of "chick car" whenever they see a Jetta or whenever one is mentioned. But I always ignored them for two reasons: 1) I don't really care if it is a chick car and 2) Because I've lived the past few years of my life in Alabama(I am now several hundred miles north thanks to College) and most the people I associated with tended to like tacky trucks and tacky "muscle cars", which are both types of cars I would never dream of driving.

But after coming here for college I've ran into a few people, less than back home, who hold this same opinion. I was just wondering how widespread this opinion actually is.

TDI's are teh pwn because you can drive from here to to Venezuela on a half tank of gas.

I don't believe in "chick cars" or "guy cars" or anything of the sort.

(Jetta = non-hatchback Golf for you Euros who don't know)

Probably a silly topic, but meh.

For whatever reason I've always kinda liked Jettas. Not really sure why, but I do. Most of the people I associate with love to slap on the label of "chick car" whenever they see a Jetta or whenever one is mentioned. But I always ignored them for two reasons: 1) I don't really care if it is a chick car and 2) Because I've lived the past few years of my life in Alabama(I am now several hundred miles north thanks to College) and most the people I associated with tended to like tacky trucks and tacky "muscle cars", which are both types of cars I would never dream of driving.

But after coming here for college I've ran into a few people, less than back home, who hold this same opinion. I was just wondering how widespread this opinion actually is.

What makes a car tacky?

I don't believe in "chick cars" or "guy cars" or anything of the sort.

ditto, I think its foolish.

*checks underneath for sex organ*

Umm.....

Asexual? Mayhaps?

What makes a car tacky?

http://lovlig-streetrace.dk/billeder_film/ugly_car_styling_01/31.jpg

VWs in general (at least water cooled ones) have struggled with the chick car label (though sometimes they really do it to themselves...a vase in the car?? Come on...) It's not been as troublesome as the last few years harsh decline in build quality, but it's still a problem.

That being said, I'm a huge fan of VW and who the fuck cares? But yeah, they have that reputation.

What makes a car tacky?

Seeing them everywhere(This applies to both trucks and muscle cars). The fact that most people have no need for a truck. And I really just do not like the look of muscle cars. To me they scream "Look at me, I have a small penis and like to spend my weekends drinking and/or watching strippers do what they do."

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Not tacky.

http://lovlig-streetrace.dk/billeder_film/ugly_car_styling_01/31.jpg
You could certainly run down a few serbs in that beauty.;)

There are guy and chick cars, some cars swing both ways.
There is this one type of car that i would best describe as a Baby booty and it reeks of ponce.

You could certainly run down a few serbs in that beauty.;)

Is that anything like a Chav?

Seeing them everywhere(This applies to both trucks and muscle cars). The fact that most people have no need for a truck. And I really just do not like the look of muscle cars. To me they scream "Look at me, I have a small penis and like to spend my weekends drinking and/or watching strippers do what they do."

So because its popular it makes it tacky?

Is that anything like a Chav?
Serbians?
Yeah more or less, except they fight more and commit Genocide.

Not tacky.

This then?
http://saddestthing.com/images/upload/14_1149715941.jpeg

This then?


I'm at a loss for words...

I'm at a loss for words...
The Chav car never phails to disgust.

So because its popular it makes it tacky?

Only if it's popular among genuinely dull individuals. And of course there's always bias.

This then?
http://saddestthing.com/images/upload/14_1149715941.jpeg
It even has Chav on the rear side window!:p

This then?
http://saddestthing.com/images/upload/14_1149715941.jpeg

O dear Jesus.:eek:

If you want to talk about a chick car, then you need to check out the new VW Beetle. It is def. a chick's car.

http://arabam.milliyet.com.tr/fuar/2003/cenevre/vw_beetle_cabrio.jpg

If you want to talk about a chick car, then you need to check out the new VW Beetle. It is def. a chick's car.

http://arabam.milliyet.com.tr/fuar/2003/cenevre/vw_beetle_cabrio.jpg

That's hawt.

There's no such thing as a chick car.

Jetta:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2121000-2121999/2121660_4_full.jpg

New Beetle:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2379000-2379999/2379904_2.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2379000-2379999/2379904_4_full.jpg

There's no such thing as a chick car.

Jetta:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2121000-2121999/2121660_4_full.jpg

New Beetle:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2379000-2379999/2379904_2.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2379000-2379999/2379904_4_full.jpg

You can hook a jet engine up to a Beetle or make the Jetta look Goth, but the fact still remains that they are chick cars. What is a chick car you might ask? Well it's either a car that looks "cute" (like the Beetle) or a car that puts look over performance.

Well it's either a car that looks "cute" (like the Beetle) or a car that puts look over performance.
Like all modern Alfas? :p

I still like the jet engine though.

Like all modern Alfas? :p

I still like the jet engine though.

Yea the Jet engine was cool, I'd admit that. Although I have to wonder about the air intake. I doubt the default grill is enough.

Yea the Jet engine was cool, I'd admit that. Although I have to wonder about the air intake. I doubt the default grill is enough.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2379904
I was thinking of putting it into an import car show but the promoter told me that it looked too plain and recommended that I put some decals on it, lower it, and put on some aftermarket wheels. Sure kid, put on some flimsy wheels won't take a curb and don't center on the hubs, lower the car so the tires rub and get cut by the body using springs that bounce me all over the road, and advertise for companies that couldn't engineer themselves out of a paper bag. I would have thought the 14" diameter tailpipe was enough for him but I guess it wasn't.
Golden! :D

You can hook a jet engine up to a Beetle or make the Jetta look Goth, but the fact still remains that they are chick cars.

I don't think any statement regarding what does or does not constitute a "chick car" qualifies as factual.

What is a chick car you might ask? Well it's either a car that looks "cute" (like the Beetle)

Why are cute cars feminine? Can't males appreciate cuteness?

or a car that puts look over performance.

Hah... you don't think male car buyers care about looks? Indeed, the whole concept of "chick car" suggests they do.

I don't think any statement regarding what does or does not constitute a "chick car" qualifies as factual.

It's not, more about opinion.


Why are cute cars feminine? Can't males appreciate cuteness?

Because they look feminine. Compare a VW Beetle to a muscle car and you'll see what I mean.


Hah... you don't think male car buyers care about looks? Indeed, the whole concept of "chick car" suggests they do.

Eh I'm more concern about performance. A car can be fugly, but as long as it got good engine performance, I'll buy it.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2379904

Golden! :D

Eh I still wonder about the air intake. Correct me if I'm wrong, but jet engines need to suck in air to run.

Because they look feminine. Compare a VW Beetle to a muscle car and you'll see what I mean.

No, I don't.

Eh I'm more concern about performance. A car can be fugly, but as long as it got good engine performance, I'll buy it.

And if it's a "chick car" that's bright pink?

Eh I still wonder about the air intake. Correct me if I'm wrong, but jet engines need to suck in air to run.
http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
The Beetle was chosen because it looks cool with the jet and it shows it off well. Remember the Hurst wheelstanding Barracuda "Hemi Under Glass"? Well, this is "Jet Under Glass". Air for the jet enters the car through the two side windows and the sunroof. It's a little windy inside but not unbearable.
I bet it is!

No, I don't.

Here is a Dodge Challenger.

http://www.edmunds.com/media/news/column/carmudgeon/chrysler.newest.challenger/70.dodge.challenger.ta.500.jpg

Here is a VW Beetle

http://www.pictures-of-cars.com/VW-Beetle.jpg

Now do you see it?

And if it's a "chick car" that's bright pink?

There are more than one high performance cars, I love capitalism!

I may even buy the 2008 Dodge Challenger, why, because it got a Hemi!

http://www.dustinmarson.com/personal/photoblog/archivedimgs/2006autoshow/dodge_challenger2.jpg

Now do you see it?

No. All I see is two differently-shaped cars.

I don't watch television. Could that be the reason?

There are more than one high performance cars,

In other words, "no"?

I smell hypocrisy.

add a turbocharger and an intercooler, along with a racing clutch and ask yourself then "Is this Jetta a chick car?"

No. All I see is two differently-shaped cars.

I don't watch television. Could that be the reason?

Eh, not everyone grows up in a car family.



In other words, "no"?

I smell hypocrisy.

If you go back to my definition of a chick car, you'd notice that I said "it's either a car that looks "cute" (like the Beetle) or a car that puts look over performance."

(Jetta = non-hatchback Golf for you Euros who don't know)


The Jetta is sold in Europe as the Bora.

Eh, not everyone grows up in a car family.

I guess I was spared, thankfully.

I grew up in a political family.

If you go back to my definition of a chick car, you'd notice that I said "it's either a car that looks "cute" (like the Beetle) or a car that puts look over performance."

So, if I'm getting this right, a car marketed to not look like a chick car is a chick car?

Eh, not everyone grows up in a car family.





If you go back to my definition of a chick car, you'd notice that I said "it's either a car that looks "cute" (like the Beetle) or a car that puts look over performance."

then you could say the Chevy Cobalt SS is a chick car, because there is no way the supercharger on that only puts out 8 lbs of boost... they needed to put on a smaller pulley for the stock car. it doesnt even come close to a stock Dodge Neon SRT4.

by the way, my old '89 Ford Taurus SHO had more HP than that Cobalt SS

then you could say the Chevy Cobalt SS is a chick car, because there is no way the supercharger on that only puts out 8 lbs of boost... they needed to put on a smaller pulley for the stock car. it doesnt even come close to a stock Dodge Neon SRT4.

Which is funny, becasue the SRT4 almost a chick car.

Which is funny, becasue the SRT4 almost a chick car.

wow... you say an SRT4 is almost a chick car?

id honestly have to say that there is no definition for a chick car, only it depends on who is driving as to if the car is a chick car or not.

you see a Dodge Challenger in hot pink. that is now a chick-ish car, but i mean, its a muscle car.

then you could say the Chevy Cobalt SS is a chick car, because there is no way the supercharger on that only puts out 8 lbs of boost... they needed to put on a smaller pulley for the stock car. it doesnt even come close to a stock Dodge Neon SRT4.

Muscle cars are not chick cars, because they are muscle cars. The SS does have some good performance and I doubt your SRT4 can take on a Cobalt!

wow... you say an SRT4 is almost a chick car?

id honestly have to say that there is no definition for a chick car, only it depends on who is driving as to if the car is a chick car or not.

you see a Dodge Challenger in hot pink. that is now a chick-ish car, but i mean, its a muscle car.

Nah it's still excluded from the chick car cat. Because the looks, it's more than just the paint color, it's also about the body style. The Dodge Challenger (both old and new) has a Muscle Car body, so it's always going to look awesome. :D

Muscle cars are not chick cars, because they are muscle cars. The SS does have some good performance and I doubt your SRT4 can take on a Cobalt!

heh... i didnt say i had an SRT4, only a '89 Taurus SHO.

all im saying is a car is a car until its personalized by its owner. there are some cars that are just more manly and more feminine than others.

*cough* Dodge Viper *cough*

I guess I was spared, thankfully.

I grew up in a political family.

Eh, it depends on your prespective. My family likes politics as well, but even we like to take a break every once in awhile and play with our toys. :D

*cough* Dodge Viper *cough*

*drools*

So, if I'm getting this right, a car marketed to not look like a chick car is a chick car?
I would think the only cars that are chick cars are cars that are marketed towards women.

The new Beetle is one, probably a few of the modern SUVs. I always reckon a mirror in the sun visor is a bit of a worry. Which is bad, because my Golf's got one.

*drools*

yeah, and its much better than the money-hog Corvette.

not on gas, but only women care about gas money ;)

I would think the only cars that are chick cars are cars that are marketed towards women.

The new Beetle is one, probably a few of the modern SUVs. I always reckon a mirror in the sun visor is a bit of a worry. Which is bad, because my Golf's got one.

yeah, but my Taurus did, too, and that was modeled for business people/joy riders. fun car.

like i said, cars are kind of transgender-ish.

There's no such thing as a chick car.

Jetta:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2121000-2121999/2121660_4_full.jpg

New Beetle:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2379000-2379999/2379904_2.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2379000-2379999/2379904_4_full.jpg
Do you watch Topgear?

yeah, and its much better than the money-hog Corvette.

not on gas, but only women care about gas money ;)

The Viper could NEVER be consider a chick car. However, put me behind the wheel of either a Corvette or a Viper and you'll never see that car again! :p

Do you watch Topgear?

what would you call a chick car?

Do you watch Topgear?
When they have it on SBS, yeah.

wow... you say an SRT4 is almost a chick car?

id honestly have to say that there is no definition for a chick car, only it depends on who is driving as to if the car is a chick car or not.

you see a Dodge Challenger in hot pink. that is now a chick-ish car, but i mean, its a muscle car.
I agree with him. Chick cars are cars that chicks dig. They are the cars they want: Beetles, Mini's, SRT4/SX2.0, most muscle cars, etc.
Muscle cars are not chick cars, because they are muscle cars. The SS does have some good performance and I doubt your SRT4 can take on a Cobalt!
I want what you are on. It is obviously capable of altering reality. The SRT4 takes about a second less to reach 60 and handles much better. The SRT4 is discribed as sticking to the road, were the Cobalt has dull handling.

-snippage-
There are more than one high performance cars, I love capitalism!

I may even buy the 2008 Dodge Challenger, why, because it got a Hemi!

http://www.dustinmarson.com/personal/photoblog/archivedimgs/2006autoshow/dodge_challenger2.jpg
OMG call 'The Doctor' someone stole their faces!:eek:

I agree with him. Chick cars are cars that chicks dig. They are the cars they want: Beetles, Mini's, SRT4/SX2.0, most muscle cars, etc.

I want what you are on. It is obviously capable of altering reality. The SRT4 takes about a second less to reach 60 and handles much better. The SRT4 is discribed as sticking to the road, were the Cobalt has dull handling.

the last time chevy designed a well-handling chassis was for its 50k corvette, and thats a 50k car, so it damn well better handle nicely.

on the other hand, you can spend half as much on a nice Mustang GT with a rear 3pt suspenion (no, not IRS, but close) or you can spend 40k on that same chassis with a nice blown mustang shelby gt 500.

THAT is not a chick car.

I want what you are on. It is obviously capable of altering reality. The SRT4 takes about a second less to reach 60 and handles much better. The SRT4 is discribed as sticking to the road, were the Cobalt has dull handling.

Notice I didn't say either a modified Cobalt or stock Cobalt. ;)

Notice I didn't say either a modified Cobalt or stock Cobalt. ;)

as far as weight to power, id much rather have a Cobalt because the SRT4 has nothing on the trim-ness of the Cobalt. As for chassis, gotta go with the SRT4 because it is much crisper and has less unpredictability midturn and the brakes dont wear out as fast as the Cobalt's.

the SRT4 is a turn-key club car and the Cobalt is $2k away. trouble is, the Cobalt has a slim aftermarket support, where the SRT4 looks like an aftermarket gadget like the iPod.

Eh, it depends on your prespective. My family likes politics as well, but even we like to take a break every once in awhile and play with our toys. :D

Break? From politics? Heresy!

No meeting of my family is complete without a furious political argument. It's how we express our love.

I would think the only cars that are chick cars are cars that are marketed towards women.

Isn't that a circular definition?

What are chick cars? Cars that are marketed towards women. And which cars are marketed towards women? Well, those we deem effeminate - i.e., "chick cars."

id have to say the only chick "cars" are really minivans, because, lets be honest, how many guys want to be caught driving a friggin minivan?

Here is a Dodge Challenger.

http://www.edmunds.com/media/news/column/carmudgeon/chrysler.newest.challenger/70.dodge.challenger.ta.500.jpg

Here is a VW Beetle

http://www.pictures-of-cars.com/VW-Beetle.jpg

Now do you see it?


Honestly, my initial reaction upon looking at the first choice is seeing Rebel Flags and hearing banjos. That and the god awful noise that the first's engine has likely been tortured into producing, in order to be "manly." I think I'd rather take the VW (edit: Except black, not yellow).

But I like Birkenstocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkenstock) and I ride the bus. Anatomical technicalities aside, I'm practically female.

:rolleyes: :D

Isn't that a circular definition?

What are chick cars? Cars that are marketed towards women. And which cars are marketed towards women? Well, those we deem effeminate - i.e., "chick cars."

Are you trying to find the logic in gender roles?

Break? From politics? Heresy!

No meeting of my family is complete without a furious political argument. It's how we express our love.

I can see it now "YOU DIRTY COMMIE LOVING LIBERAL!" "YOU FAT RACIST CORPORATE LOVING CONSERVATIVE!" :D

Are you trying to find the logic in gender roles?

No. I'm trying to illustrate the illogic.

Honestly, my initial reaction upon looking at the first choice is seeing Rebel Flags and hearing banjos. That and the god awful noise that the first's engine has likely been tortured into producing, in order to be "manly." I think I'd rather take the VW.

the only reasonable reason why you see Challenger/Rebel Flag is the Dukes of Hazzard movie, but you werent silly enough to go see that CASH-IN spinoff to see Jessica Simpson's ass, did you?

anyway, id rather drive something with a growl rather than a purr. and, no, sticking a sewer pipe on the back of your exhaust pipe is no excuse.

I can see it now "YOU DIRTY COMMIE LOVING LIBERAL!" "YOU FAT RACIST CORPORATE LOVING CONSERVATIVE!" :D

Why do they have to be yelling? Do Americans not have inside voices?

Isn't that a circular definition?
Well, modern cars start off usually in the marketing department. So the target group is generally known before the number of cylinders.

Chick Car = Minivan

thats all i have to say.

Why do they have to be yelling? Do Americans not have inside voices?

Nah not really.

I can see it now "YOU DIRTY COMMIE LOVING LIBERAL!" "YOU FAT RACIST CORPORATE LOVING CONSERVATIVE!" :D

No Bush-style conservatives in my family, thankfully - though my brother's an ultra-capitalist.

The political arguments don't degenerate into shouting matches anymore, though they did when we were younger.

No Bush-style conservatives in my family, thankfully - though my brother's an ultra-capitalist.

The political arguments don't degenerate into shouting matches anymore, though they did when we were younger.

You know it's funny. I started out as a Democrat, but the liberals and Democrats at my college annoyed me, so I became a Conservative (Not a Neo-Con). My dad is a moderate Democrat.

Well, modern cars start off usually in the marketing department. So the target group is generally known before the number of cylinders.

So a "chick car" is just a car that women are more likely to buy?

Why should anyone care, then?

So a "chick car" is just a car that women are more likely to buy?

Why should anyone care, then?

MINIVAN

what guy gets caught driving and enjoying a Dodge Caravan alone? its like "hm, i really like this ford mustang GT, but that dodge caravan over there for $3k (or whatever) more really catches my eye."

So a "chick car" is just a car that women are more likely to buy?

Why should anyone care, then?
Hey, I'm about to buy a Miata. Don't ask me. :D

the only reasonable reason why you see Challenger/Rebel Flag is the Dukes of Hazzard movie, but you werent silly enough to go see that CASH-IN spinoff to see Jessica Simpson's ass, did you?


Actually, I remember the local but now long gone Bulwinkle's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullwinkle%27s_Family_Restaurant) had one of those cheap coin/token operated car "rides," like one occasionally sees outside a grocery or convienience store. Not only was the car shaped like that Challenger, but it also had a big Rebel Flag suck right in the middle of the "hood." This was a least a decade and change ago, so the television show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukes_of_hazzard) probably had more to do with it than the yet non-existant movie.


anyway, id rather drive something with a growl rather than a purr. and, no, sticking a sewer pipe on the back of your exhaust pipe is no excuse.

I'd rather have one of those hybrid/electric cars which make practically no noise at all. Easier to sneak up on pedestrians that way.

MINIVAN

what guy gets caught driving and enjoying a Dodge Caravan alone? its like "hm, i really like this ford mustang GT, but that dodge caravan over there for $3k (or whatever) more really catches my eye."

What is wrong with where you are? Minivans sell for nothing here.

Hey, I'm about to buy a Miata. Don't ask me. :D

man, those are nice cars...

rotary engines make me happy.

Hey, I'm about to buy a Miata...
...and not paint it yellow.

What is wrong with where you are? Minivans sell for nothing here.

nothing is worth nothing in america. i mean, sure, caravans are about $20k, but the point was would you rather drive a minivan or a mustang for a few grand more, if you drove alone all the time?

rotary engines make me happy.
Which is sorta irrelevant, isn't it? :p

what guy gets caught driving and enjoying a Dodge Caravan alone?


**raises hand**

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

...and not paint it yellow.
How about black with yellow Viper Stripes? Two fat ones, and two thin ones on the outside.

nothing is worth nothing in america. i mean, sure, caravans are about $20k, but the point was would you rather drive a minivan or a mustang for a few grand more, if you drove alone all the time?
They're the only thing you can get for under $10K, and be newer than 2000.

How about black with yellow Viper Stripes? Two fat ones, and two thin ones on the outside.

I am disowning you now.

How about black with yellow Viper Stripes? Two fat ones, and two thin ones on the outside.

uh, those would be "Racing Stripes"

When they have it on SBS, yeah.
ANy chance you saw the 3 foot+ Exhaust pipe a couple o years back?
what would you call a chick car?
Holden Barina and the Swing for some though there are plenty others, if we were sitting somewhere i could point them out as they go by.

Then there are swing cars, Honda Civics are a good example.

Holden Barina and the Swing for some though there are plenty others, if we were sitting somewhere i could point them out as they go by.

Then there are swing cars, Honda Civics are a good example.

yeah, but civics can be tuned.

I am disowning you now.
http://www.dooya.schildersmilies.de/trust_me.gif

Oddly enough, I've never looked under my cars tail-pipe to see if it was a dude or a chick. Give me a minute and I'll get back to you.

Hey, I'm about to buy a Miata. Don't ask me. :D

I dare you to stuff a rotary in it. That'd be very sweet.

I dare you to stuff a rotary in it. That'd be very sweet.
The twin turbo from the latest RX-7. Sounds like a plan.

The twin turbo from the latest RX-7. Sounds like a plan.

I'm surprised Mazda never tried it. The rotary is relatively small & lightweight, wouldn't upset the balance of the MX5 too much. And it would be totally kickarse.

I'm surprised Mazda never tried it. The rotary is relatively small & lightweight, wouldn't upset the balance of the MX5 too much. And it would be totally kickarse.

Yea, but it has problems generating low and mid-range torque, which is what a handling car like the MX-5 relies on.

Oh, and this (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-03-02-ycc_x.htm), surely, is the ultimate "chick's car"?

VWs in general (at least water cooled ones) have struggled with the chick car label (though sometimes they really do it to themselves...a vase in the car?? Come on...) It's not been as troublesome as the last few years harsh decline in build quality, but it's still a problem.

That being said, I'm a huge fan of VW and who the fuck cares? But yeah, they have that reputation.
What's wrong with that vase? I love that vase! <.< >.>

But, er, this won't help the OP much, but back in Germany VWs don't have any such reputation.

And I'm always a bit amused about how many Americans know the Jetta. Is it even still manufactured?? One of my friends has a Jetta, it's about 18 years old. The Jetta was never exactly a "cool" car. Not a "chick" car, either. More like the sturdy, boring car your parents would buy.

Yea, but it has problems generating low and mid-range torque, which is what a handling car like the MX-5 relies on.

Oh, and this (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-03-02-ycc_x.htm), surely, is the ultimate "chick's car"?

Didn't a chick design the Audi R8? Or was she the crew chief...fuck, now I don't remember and I already started a response...ah well...

Oh, and this (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-03-02-ycc_x.htm), surely, is the ultimate "chick's car"?
Hehe. Through customer research, Olsson said, the company discovered that women want everything in a car that men want in terms of performance and styling, "plus a lot more that male car buyers have never thought to ask for."

"We learned that if you meet women's expectations, you exceed those for men," he said.
'Course you do. :cool:

What's wrong with that vase? I love that vase! <.< >.>

But, er, this won't help the OP much, but back in Germany VWs don't have any such reputation.

And I'm always a bit amused about how many Americans know the Jetta. Is it even still manufactured?? One of my friends has a Jetta, it's about 18 years old. The Jetta was never exactly a "cool" car. Not a "chick" car, either. More like the sturdy, boring car your parents would buy.
The Jetta is still sold here, rather well actually. They have two campaigns for it-one is "Low Ego Emitions" which is funny, but it's odd to sell a car on its lack of personality...and the "Stereotyping is wrong" implying that Jetta owners know yoga and dance well, like taking nature walks, etc.

What's wrong with that vase? I love that vase! <.< >.>

But, er, this won't help the OP much, but back in Germany VWs don't have any such reputation.

And I'm always a bit amused about how many Americans know the Jetta. Is it even still manufactured?? One of my friends has a Jetta, it's about 18 years old. The Jetta was never exactly a "cool" car. Not a "chick" car, either. More like the sturdy, boring car your parents would buy.

I think what they're talking about is what we'd know as the Bora. Kept the name Jetta over there for some reason.

'Course you do. :cool:

:D

I think what they're talking about is what we'd know as the Bora. Kept the name Jetta over there for some reason.
Oh! Thanks, I didn't know that. Now it all becomes clear. :p

The Jetta is still sold here, rather well actually. They have two campaigns for it-one is "Low Ego Emitions" which is funny, but it's odd to sell a car on its lack of personality...and the "Stereotyping is wrong" implying that Jetta owners know yoga and dance well, like taking nature walks, etc. I had no idea that was the "image" the Jetta had over there. Huh. *goes off to look at pics of the Bora to remind herself what it even looks like*

ETA: Wait, this (http://www.carbiz.ro/images-rent-a-car-romania/poze-rent-a-car/rent%20a%20car%20vw%20bora.jpg) is what we're talking about? How is that a "chick car"? :confused:

What's wrong with that vase? I love that vase! <.< >.>

But, er, this won't help the OP much, but back in Germany VWs don't have any such reputation.

And I'm always a bit amused about how many Americans know the Jetta. Is it even still manufactured?? One of my friends has a Jetta, it's about 18 years old. The Jetta was never exactly a "cool" car. Not a "chick" car, either. More like the sturdy, boring car your parents would buy.
Yep, definitely still being made (http://www.vw.com/jetta/photos_ext.html), at least for the US market. You have a TG, by the way.

As for the OP, on the one hand no one I know thinks of the Jetta as a chick car. On the other, the only people I know who own them are female. In other words, I'm no help whatsoever. Sorry. :p

Didn't a chick design the Audi R8? Or was she the crew chief...fuck, now I don't remember and I already started a response...ah well...

Honestly, I have no idea...

I think what they're talking about is what we'd know as the Bora. Kept the name Jetta over there for some reason.

I think so we think "Jets" instead of "Boring"

We're back to calling the Golf a Rabbit, which I actually think is a better name.

ETA: Wait, this (http://www.carbiz.ro/images-rent-a-car-romania/poze-rent-a-car/rent%20a%20car%20vw%20bora.jpg) is what we're talking about? How is that a "chick car"? :confused:

Yea, that's the one :)

Yep, definitely still being made (http://www.vw.com/jetta/photos_ext.html), at least for the US market. You have a TG, by the way.
Ah, seems the pic I found was definitely an older model. But still, to me it looks nothing what I would have expected it to look from the "reputation" it seems to have.
It looks like a typical boring car guys would buy. Not bad, not terrible, but not very exciting either.
*off to check TGs*

I had no idea that was the "image" the Jetta had over there. Huh. *goes off to look at pics of the Bora to remind herself what it even looks like*

ETA: Wait, this (http://www.carbiz.ro/images-rent-a-car-romania/poze-rent-a-car/rent%20a%20car%20vw%20bora.jpg) is what we're talking about? How is that a "chick car"? :confused:
Sorority chicks drive 'em. Though the worst offender is the white VW Cabriolet, which I sometimes think isn't sold to you unless you're a blonde chick. I don't think that means there is anything wrong with either car, I'd happily drive a VW Cabriolet. And since I have long hair it might actually prove for some embarrassing comedy when frat boys roll up from behind me to make some time...

I think so we think "Jets" instead of "Boring"

Actually...I think they might have called the new incarnation Jetta in Europe as well...

We're back to calling the Golf a Rabbit, which I actually think is a better name.

That's a stupid name :p

Sorority chicks drive 'em. Though the worst offender is the white VW Cabriolet, which I sometimes think isn't sold to you unless you're a blonde chick. I don't think that means there is anything wrong with either car, I'd happily drive a VW Cabriolet. And since I have long hair it might actually prove for some embarrassing comedy when frat boys roll up from behind me to make some time...
When you say "VW Cabriolet" - are you talking about the New Beetle convertible? Becasue that doesn't even come in white, does it? Only in that beautiful, beautiful, beautiful off-white.... *dreams*

Or are you talking about the Golf (Rabbit, Fox, whatever animal name you guys gave it)?

Or *gasp* the old beetle convertible?

So a "chick car" is just a car that women are more likely to buy?

Why should anyone care, then?

Because Wilgrove feels the need to have rigidly-defined lines separating genders to the point where even cars (tools, means of conveyance, soulless machines) have to be girly or manly. God forbid a man want a Mini Cooper or a woman want a Dodge Caliber. That just messes with Willie's sense of partition.

I own a black 2002 Honda Civic Si. Chick car, if you take your cues from the stlying -- two-door hatchback, curvy lines. The Beetle Turbo embarassed plenty of "manly" cars when it dropped a few years ago (the "Turbonium" ad campaign).

What I don't understand is wasting thousands of dollars to make a Civic or similar small-engine car sound like it roars. Worse yet, the rollerskate effect of lowering and pushing the wheels out. For fuck's sake, it's a car. Treating it like some kind of four-wheeled personal avatar is why we're stuck to the oil teat in the first place. Tiny engine + huge exhaust pipe = small brain + fiscal irresponisibility. Then there's the sound-system-costs-more-than-the-car crowd, but that's a whole 'nother rant.

Actually...I think they might have called the new incarnation Jetta in Europe as well...



That's a stupid name :p

Ah c'mon, rabbits are light, quick, agile, multiply rapidly, and are cute. Golf is a boring slow game played in tacky pants. It's a fine name for a little hot hatch.

Ah c'mon, rabbits are light, quick, agile, multiply rapidly, and are cute. Golf is a boring slow game played in tacky pants. It's a fine name for a little hot hatch.

I dunno, first thing I think of with rabbits is sex, first thing I think of with golf is the original GTI :p

nothing is worth nothing in america. i mean, sure, caravans are about $20k, but the point was would you rather drive a minivan or a mustang for a few grand more, if you drove alone all the time?

I'd rather save gas and have a car that worked more often than it didn't.

They're the only thing you can get for under $10K, and be newer than 2000.

Where do you live and what are you on? $8k can get you a Civic at model year 2002. Look harder.

When you say "VW Cabriolet" - are you talking about the New Beetle convertible? Becasue that doesn't even come in white, does it? Only in that beautiful, beautiful, beautiful off-white.... *dreams*

Or are you talking about the Golf (Rabbit, Fox, whatever animal name you guys gave it)?

Or *gasp* the old beetle convertible?

Well, here we don't call convertables cabriolets, so the name is actually affixed to the Rabbit convertables. But the New Beetle Cabriolets are also chick wagons in much the same way.

The old Beetle, convertable or not, is part of its own subculture. The Air Cooled one. Which totally rules.

And I'm totally not biased about that or anything...

Yea, but it has problems generating low and mid-range torque, which is what a handling car like the MX-5 relies on.

Oh, and this (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-03-02-ycc_x.htm), surely, is the ultimate "chick's car"?

I don't know...opening those gull-wing doors in a crowded supermarket parking lot would be tough.

*puts on Lezbollah- and soccer mom-resistant flamesuit and DUCKS*

Well, here we don't call convertables cabriolets, so the name is actually affixed to the Rabbit convertables. But the New Beetle Cabriolets are also chick wagons in much the same way.

The old Beetle, convertable or not, is part of its own subculture. The Air Cooled one. Which totally rules.

And I'm totally not biased about that or anything...

Definitely not biased with your love of old Porsches and your own VW :p

I dunno, first thing I think of with rabbits is sex, first thing I think of with golf is the original GTI :p

See? For a marketer that first thought is golden. Though sex in a Rabbit might be tricky...I don't remember if that back seat folds down...

Ah, the original GTi...I almost bought one ages ago but it got sold from underneath me and I ended up with the 914. Blessing/curse...I'd probably still have the GTi...

I don't know...opening those gull-wing doors in a crowded supermarket parking lot would be tough.

*puts on Lezbollah- and soccer mom-resistant flamesuit and DUCKS*

Fair point, really...:p

See? For a marketer that first thought is golden. Though sex in a Rabbit might be tricky...I don't remember if that back seat folds down...

I'm sure they do....that's something for someone else to try though...;)

Ah, the original GTi...I almost bought one ages ago but it got sold from underneath me and I ended up with the 914. Blessing/curse...I'd probably still have the GTi...

I'd well rather have the GTi than a 914...

Actually...I think they might have called the new incarnation Jetta in Europe as well...



That's a stupid name :p

And naming a car after a country-club sport played by men in ugly clothing and lesbians in slightly less ugly clothing (Golf) is better...how?

And naming a car after a country-club sport played by men in ugly clothing and lesbians in slightly less ugly clothing (Golf) is better...how?

Because I say so

And naming a car after a country-club sport played by men in ugly clothing and lesbians in slightly less ugly clothing (Golf) is better...how?
Golf is now a lesbian sport?

I'm sure they do....that's something for someone else to try though...;)
You sure? Here at least tinted windows are common...



I'd well rather have the GTi than a 914...
Awww...everyone hates on my little ugly duckling. It was actually funner to drive when it drove.

But sex in it was right out. Considering how my girlfriend at the time felt about it, it had the ability to kibosh sex out of it as well...

Whatever, I liked it, so there :p

Golf is now a lesbian sport?
All chick sports are lesbian sports except, um, beach volleyball cause they play in bikinis and some tennis players cause they play in skirts that fly up.








No I don't believe this, please don't kill me...

You sure? Here at least tinted windows are common...

Not even with tinted windows :p


Awww...everyone hates on my little ugly duckling. It was actually funner to drive when it drove.

But sex in it was right out. Considering how my girlfriend at the time felt about it, it had the ability to kibosh sex out of it as well...

Whatever, I liked it, so there :p

Would the interior not be too small anyway?

Would the interior not be too small anyway?Depends on how... big... we're talking. :D

Not even with tinted windows :p




Would the interior not be too small anyway?

The interior was almost too small to change the radio.

I didn't have the apperance package (center console) so at one point driving down the main thoroughfare in my town I had to ask if my friend was in a hurry. "No," he said, "Why?" Well, if your not could you let me operate the gas pedal? He had his foot resting on top of mine and we where doing 65 mph on a suburban street.

Depends on how... big... we're talking. :D

:D

The interior was almost too small to change the radio.

I didn't have the apperance package (center console) so at one point driving down the main thoroughfare in my town I had to ask if my friend was in a hurry. "No," he said, "Why?" Well, if your not could you let me operate the gas pedal? He had his foot resting on top of mine and we where doing 65 mph on a suburban street.

The centre console was an optional extra? That's amazing, dedication to low-weight or what :D

The centre console was an optional extra? That's amazing, dedication to low-weight or what :D

A very Lotus approach to sports car making. Mine did have the optional chrome bumper, which is an essential. Since the car is so low to the ground the rear view is headlight level, meaning if you got your brights on I'm gettin' blasted. But go over one bump and the dimple in the bumper reflects the headlights back and suddenly they dim.

But yeah, the 914 was pure minimalist. Nothing you didn't need and somethings you might have needed but have to do without...

Man, I miss that thing...

There's a hardtop Elan for sale on eBay right now, in the "Good thing I don't have disposable income" catagory, speaking of bad ideas...it's going for cheap cause it needs fixing. And since I'm doing such a great job fixing my old VW...

Go for the Elan, might as well....who cares if you can't eat for a while, you'll own a Lotus Elan!

Go for the Elan, might as well....who cares if you can't eat for a while, you'll own a Lotus Elan!

Sadly, I operate on exactly that logic. Which is why it's a good thing I don't have the money to buy that Elan...cause man it would be sweet.

Sadly, I operate on exactly that logic. Which is why it's a good thing I don't have the money to buy that Elan...cause man it would be sweet.

:(

http://lovlig-streetrace.dk/billeder_film/ugly_car_styling_01/31.jpg

Not tacky.

Come on, Greater Valia, Posi had it there.....that car is the definition of tacky.

:(

I already have 2 and half more vehicles than I can deal with (The bus, the cargo VW Vanagon I use for work, and a delapitated motorcycle I need to get rid of). If work goes well this year, though, and I take care of my bus, I'm totally buying a toy.

I want a toy.

What's wrong with that vase? I love that vase! <.< >.>

But, er, this won't help the OP much, but back in Germany VWs don't have any such reputation.

And I'm always a bit amused about how many Americans know the Jetta. Is it even still manufactured?? One of my friends has a Jetta, it's about 18 years old. The Jetta was never exactly a "cool" car. Not a "chick" car, either. More like the sturdy, boring car your parents would buy.

Jettas are still in production. They are fairly popular too.

I already have 2 and half more vehicles than I can deal with (The bus, the cargo VW Vanagon I use for work, and a delapitated motorcycle I need to get rid of). If work goes well this year, though, and I take care of my bus, I'm totally buying a toy.

I want a toy.

That's a good list of things to tinker with though

That's a good list of things to tinker with though

The plan so far is:
The Bus-
Fix the tranny, fix the interior that was destroyed when the stereo was stolen, convert her to LPG, rent her out as a 'picture car' for films and such ($600 a day? Yes please.)

The Vanagon-
Wire with deep cycle batteries to run lights etc out of it, put in a diesel engine preferably a TDI, convert to Veggie oil.

The Motorcycle-
Get rid of it, start again later with better bike. Preferably an old Norton.

Hmmm...way off the track of the thread now...

Where do you live and what are you on? $8k can get you a Civic at model year 2002. Look harder.

You expect me to fit in that? *laughs*

(Jetta = non-hatchback Golf for you Euros who don't know)

Probably a silly topic, but meh.

For whatever reason I've always kinda liked Jettas. Not really sure why, but I do. Most of the people I associate with love to slap on the label of "chick car" whenever they see a Jetta or whenever one is mentioned. But I always ignored them for two reasons: 1) I don't really care if it is a chick car and 2) Because I've lived the past few years of my life in Alabama(I am now several hundred miles north thanks to College) and most the people I associated with tended to like tacky trucks and tacky "muscle cars", which are both types of cars I would never dream of driving.

But after coming here for college I've ran into a few people, less than back home, who hold this same opinion. I was just wondering how widespread this opinion actually is.

For chicks and gays. :D

The plan so far is:
The Bus-
Fix the tranny, fix the interior that was destroyed when the stereo was stolen, convert her to LPG, rent her out as a 'picture car' for films and such ($600 a day? Yes please.)

The Vanagon-
Wire with deep cycle batteries to run lights etc out of it, put in a diesel engine preferably a TDI, convert to Veggie oil.

Pretty cool plans.

The Motorcycle-
Get rid of it, start again later with better bike. Preferably an old Norton.

Ohhhh Norton. Beautiful bikes.

I saw Robert Dunlop riding the rotary engined 92 bike he won the 92 TT on, he was part of a parade lap at the Ulster Grand Prix a few years ago. Him and Haslam, on another one, went off and raced...even though it was meant to be a parade. Dunlop won by a mile and did a massive burnout right in front of me. Man...the sound of that rotary...

Hmmm...way off the track of the thread now...

Since when has that mattered ;)