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This is a general discussion on cryptozoology which is the study of and search for new species of creatures. I do not want to limit the discussion in any manner. Possible topics for posts include, but are not limited to, belief or disbelief in certain cryptids, sightings of mysterious creatures, or anything else cryptozoological.

This is a general discussion on cryptozoology which is the study of and search for new species of creatures. I do not want to limit the discussion in any manner. Possible topics for posts include, but are not limited to, belief or disbelief in certain cryptids, sightings of mysterious creatures, or anything else cryptozoological.

i'm curious about smurfs.
As far as i can work out there are about 50 males for every 1 female. Yet there population seems to stay quite constant. I wonder if the female has litters, thus bolstering the numbers.
Or are they hemaphrodites and the female one is an aberration?

anyone?

He said species that might exist not ones that we already know exist

sheesh

i'm curious about smurfs.
As far as i can work out there are about 50 males for every 1 female. Yet there population seems to stay quite constant. I wonder if the female has litters, thus bolstering the numbers.
Or are they hemaphrodites and the female one is an aberration?

anyone?

An interesting point. Perhaps, like the dwarves in Middle-Earth, the majority of Smurf females can't easily be distinguished from the males.

i'm curious about smurfs.
As far as i can work out there are about 50 males for every 1 female. Yet there population seems to stay quite constant. I wonder if the female has litters, thus bolstering the numbers.
Or are they hemaphrodites and the female one is an aberration?

anyone?

For some reason I seem to recall that storks deliver baby smurfs. They do not reproduce sexually. Baby smurfs are more or less airmailed by storks. I am baffled as to why Papa smurf is called "Papa." I think it is an honorary term given to the eldest smurf / the chief smurf.

I wonder when BackwoodsSquatches will find this thread.

For some reason I seem to recall that storks deliver baby smurfs. They do not reproduce sexually. Baby smurfs are more or less airmailed by storks. I am baffled as to why Papa smurf is called "Papa." I think it is an honorary term given to the eldest smurf / the chief smurf.

Probably true. And in Italian and Spanish, at least, the Pope is called "Papa" and he's not a father, either (as far as I've heard, in modern times).

Are we limited to terrestrial lifeforms?

What are the odds? There's a whole web site (http://www.cryptozoology.com/) devoted to this!

I'm into the Tasmanian Tiger after reading Carnivorous Nights by Margaret Mittelbach and Michael Crewdson.

http://www.cryptozoology.com/cryptidsq/thylacine.php

On a Google search for list of cryptids I found a mention of an American cryptid called the "oil pit squid" yet I found no other mention of oil pit squids on the internet. Anyone ever heard of the oil pit squid?

I am somewhat interested in the Almas and other hominid-type cryptozoological animals. The Almas especially, because unlike Sasquatch/Yeti/Orang Pandek, the Almas is theorized to be a surviving population of Neanderthal men.

On a Google search for list of cryptids I found a mention of an American cryptid called the "oil pit squid" yet I found no other mention of oil pit squids on the internet. Anyone ever heard of the oil pit squid?

Hmm, you don't hear much about Cephalopodia petroleatum these days, do you? They're rumored to live in abandoned oil fields, not in the wells themselves but in the sumps where waste oil and junk was thrown. Never very large (the largest reported sighting was two feet long including tentacles [Firefly, 1932]), they average about eight to twelve inches in length. They appear to feed on the oil itself, though there have been reports of small animals being taken by schools of Oil Pit Squid [Spaulding, 1926].

Hmm, you don't hear much about Cephalopodia petroleatum these days, do you? They're rumored to live in abandoned oil fields, not in the wells themselves but in the sumps where waste oil and junk was thrown. Never very large (the largest reported sighting was two feet long including tentacles [Firefly, 1932]), they average about eight to twelve inches in length. They appear to feed on the oil itself, though there have been reports of small animals being taken by schools of Oil Pit Squid [Spaulding, 1926].

The way you describe it, its as if there is hardcore scientific proof.

Do you have a link?

The way you describe it, its as if there is hardcore scientific proof.

Do you have a link?

I don't, unfortunately. The works of Rufus T. Firefly and Capt. Jeffrey Spaulding have long been out of print. It's thought that the Oil Pit Squid became extinct in the 1980's during the Us Oil Bust.

(Let me know when the one leg is long enough, I'll start pulling the other.)

I don't, unfortunately. The works of Rufus T. Firefly and Capt. Jeffrey Spaulding have long been out of print. It's thought that the Oil Pit Squid became extinct in the 1980's during the Us Oil Bust.

(Let me know when the one leg is long enough, I'll start pulling the other.)


Thought so.

I'm into the Tasmanian Tiger after reading Carnivorous Nights by Margaret Mittelbach and Michael Crewdson.

http://www.cryptozoology.com/cryptidsq/thylacine.php
Thylacine. Since they've found the supposedly extinct ivory-billed woodpecker I keep hoping they'll find some living thylacines too.

Thylacine. Since they've found the supposedly extinct ivory-billed woodpecker I keep hoping they'll find some living thylacines too.

After all, we had sightings of Openly Liberal Democrats earlier this fall, why not the Ivory-billed Woodpecker and the Tasmanian Tiger?

Thylacine. Since they've found the supposedly extinct ivory-billed woodpecker I keep hoping they'll find some living thylacines too.

I like to say Tasmanian Tiger. :)

I like to say Tasmanian Tiger. :)

And "thylacine" sounds like something your doctor prescribes for you. "Take the thylacine for a full two weeks and next time, if you must go to that part of town, wear protection!"

And "thylacine" sounds like something your doctor prescribes for you. "Take the thylacine for a full two weeks and next time, if you must go to that part of town, wear protection!"

It does sort of sound like something you'd take for syphillis. :D

i'm curious about smurfs.
As far as i can work out there are about 50 males for every 1 female. Yet there population seems to stay quite constant. I wonder if the female has litters, thus bolstering the numbers.
Or are they hemaphrodites and the female one is an aberration?

anyone?

Actually I believe that Smurfette was created by Gargamel in order to spread jealousy among the smurfs...


I know too much..

It does sort of sound like something you'd take for syphillis. :D

If only Hitler had bothered to go to New Zealand...

Thylacine. Since they've found the supposedly extinct ivory-billed woodpecker I keep hoping they'll find some living thylacines too.

Well, it is far easier for a bird that weighs only a few onces to remain hidden than it is for a large carnivore. The Thylacine is far less likely to not be extinct, as it is not as easily hidden.

However, I would like to note, that it is a distinct possibility. There was an effort made in the early 1900's to transport some of the more endangered species from Mainland Australia to Tasmania, and the log books do have some of the animals transported were logged in under ambigous names, so it is possible that Thylacine was on the list.

Also, there is a PERFECTLY preserved pup, with full DNA structures, so it is possible to clone them and reintroduce them.

Tis a shame they were hunted to near extinction by the farmers, as most of the livestock killings were done by wild dogs(Same as pretty much everywhere, but natural predators are often blamed).

Well, it is far easier for a bird that weighs only a few onces to remain hidden than it is for a large carnivore. The Thylacine is far less likely to not be extinct, as it is not as easily hidden.

However, I would like to note, that it is a distinct possibility. There was an effort made in the early 1900's to transport some of the more endangered species from Mainland Australia to Tasmania, and the log books do have some of the animals transported were logged in under ambigous names, so it is possible that Thylacine was on the list.

Also, there is a PERFECTLY preserved pup, with full DNA structures, so it is possible to clone them and reintroduce them.

Tis a shame they were hunted to near extinction by the farmers, as most of the livestock killings were done by wild dogs(Same as pretty much everywhere, but natural predators are often blamed).

I like the idea of trying to clone them. There was a proposal to do the same with mammoths a few years ago, I believe. I guess as long as they don't use frog DNA to fill in the gaps in the sequence, things will be okay, right?

I like the idea of trying to clone them. There was a proposal to do the same with mammoths a few years ago, I believe. I guess as long as they don't use frog DNA to fill in the gaps in the sequence, things will be okay, right?

Well, the problem with the Mammoths was that they didn't have a full DNA sequence. However, the Thylacene does, making it more viable.

However, as for frogs, all problems with vastly different DNA aside, yes, they will be used. And we will be overrun by sex-changing Thylacenes.

Well, the problem with the Mammoths was that they didn't have a full DNA sequence. However, the Thylacene does, making it more viable.

Hmm, that is a pity. They could breed an odd looking elephant, I guess, but that's about it.


However, as for frogs, all problems with vastly different DNA aside, yes, they will be used. And we will be overrun by sex-changing Thylacenes.

:eek:

Hmm, you don't hear much about Cephalopodia petroleatum these days, do you? They're rumored to live in abandoned oil fields, not in the wells themselves but in the sumps where waste oil and junk was thrown. Never very large (the largest reported sighting was two feet long including tentacles [Firefly, 1932]), they average about eight to twelve inches in length. They appear to feed on the oil itself, though there have been reports of small animals being taken by schools of Oil Pit Squid [Spaulding, 1926].

Wow thank you so much! I have been curious about this for months. I don't know what a sump is though. I have heard of a sump pump though.

Wow thank you so much! I have been curious about this for months. I don't know what a sump is though. I have heard of a sump pump though.

A sump is just a low spot that receives drainage. You then use the sump pump to remove said drainage. ;)

What do you guys think about hominid cryptids? Like the Almas, Yaren, Yeti, Orang Pendek, and of course the Sasquatch.

What do you guys think about hominid cryptids? Like the Almas, Yaren, Yeti, Orang Pendek, and of course the Sasquatch.

Well, I don't know (really). I'm not up on the evidence, which seems a little more anecdotal than might be wanted. I will say that there seem to be hominid cryptids in just about every corner of the globe. It would be cool to see one for sure, alive. Until then, well, I just don't know.

This is a general discussion on cryptozoology which is the study of and search for new species of creatures. I do not want to limit the discussion in any manner. Possible topics for posts include, but are not limited to, belief or disbelief in certain cryptids, sightings of mysterious creatures, or anything else cryptozoological.

Cryptozoology amuses me because it's one of the funniest areas of psuedoscience.

I have a chubacabra in my pants... -cough-


Anyways, as far as interesting animals and such, the one that I like and wish was around is not a unknown animal, but rather one that lived in the Carbiniferous(Penn/Miss), and its the helicoprion shark


http://school.discovery.com/schooladventures/prehistoricsharks/gallery/gal_image1_zoom.jpg

Is that not the coolest looking shark mouth ever?

I have a chubacabra in my pants... -cough-


Anyways, as far as interesting animals and such, the one that I like and wish was around is not a unknown animal, but rather one that lived in the Carbiniferous(Penn/Miss), and its the helicoprion shark


http://school.discovery.com/schooladventures/prehistoricsharks/gallery/gal_image1_zoom.jpg

Is that not the coolest looking shark mouth ever?

That mouth is pretty freaky looking. Why was it like that? How was it used? Tell me more!

That mouth is pretty freaky looking. Why was it like that? How was it used? Tell me more!

It's very cool and well, we're not entirely sure why it evolved that way. Must have conveyed some sort of advantage. Maybe the prey took a look and were stunned, like "Dude! That lower jaw! How did you ... where did you ... Hey, wait a min-aaarrggg!"

It's very cool and well, we're not entirely sure why it evolved that way. Must have conveyed some sort of advantage. Maybe the prey took a look and were stunned, like "Dude! That lower jaw! How did you ... where did you ... Hey, wait a min-aaarrggg!"

That was hilarious! Yeah I just googled that shark. Wierd stuff.

What do you guys think about hominid cryptids? Like the Almas, Yaren, Yeti, Orang Pendek, and of course the Sasquatch.

Sasquatch is fairly unlikely to exist. This is especially true of the Mo-Mo and any other eastern varieties. The Chinese Wildman and Yeti, however, are highly likely to exist: we've already gathered stool and hair samples that are inconsistent with any known hominid or ape.

Sasquatch is fairly unlikely to exist. This is especially true of the Mo-Mo and any other eastern varieties. The Chinese Wildman and Yeti, however, are highly likely to exist: we've already gathered stool and hair samples that are inconsistent with any known hominid or ape.

Got a link?

1) the mokele-mbembe in the Congo

2) possible surviving Homo floresiensis (i.e., "hobbits")

What are the odds? There's a whole web site (http://www.cryptozoology.com/) devoted to this!

WHAT?! Who would have thought?! :eek: