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I haven't found a thread on this yet. I've been following events in Fiji for the past week or so, and now the predicted coup has taken place. What are your thoughts on Bainimarama's overthrow of Qarase's government?

The background of the coup is a fairly complex one, and you need a reasonable grasp of the history of Fiji's inter-ethnic relations, and of the past three coups.

This BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6209620.stm) is quite good if you want a quick understanding of what's going on and why. And if you want to find out (or be reminded of) the basic regarding the previous three coups (1987, 1987 & 2000), see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6209486.stm).

You can also check the Fiji Times (http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=52962). The Fiji government website is saying very little, and the Fiji military website doesn't even mention the coup.

With a name like Banana-Rama, it's going to be tons of fun in Fiji. His very name inspires visions of the beach, pool parties, and icy drinks! Mmm!

Well I think the coup was a tad premature if there were laws past against Indians then I would support it but in this case I think it was far to early to assume that (and on such a fragile country coups should be kept to a minimum)

Well I think the coup was a tad premature if there were laws past against Indians then I would support it but in this case I think it was far to early to assume that (and on such a fragile country coups should be kept to a minimum)

So your position would be: the military should have trusted Qarase, and waited to see what happened?

So your position would be: the military should have trusted Qarase, and waited to see what happened?

Well my position would be that the people should be the ones to rise up not the military

But yeah they should trust them a military coup is a very extreme thing to do especially with 40% of the population being Indian

I haven't found a thread on this yet. I've been following events in Fiji for the past week or so, and now the predicted coup has taken place. What are your thoughts on Bainimarama's overthrow of Qarase's government?

The background of the coup is a fairly complex one, and you need a reasonable grasp of the history of Fiji's inter-ethnic relations, and of the past three coups.

This BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6209620.stm) is quite good if you want a quick understanding of what's going on and why. And if you want to find out (or be reminded of) the basic regarding the previous three coups (1987, 1987 & 2000), see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6209486.stm).

You can also check the Fiji Times (http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=52962). The Fiji government website is saying very little, and the Fiji military website doesn't even mention the coup.

According to what I have been reading, the Prime Minister was dismissed and another is being appointed as an interim Prime Minister.

It worked in Pakistan.

We'll have to wait and see how this turns out, but based on what this Army Chief is saying, I'd much rather he be in charge of Fiji than the previous regime.

According to what I have been reading, the Prime Minister was dismissed and another is being appointed as an interim Prime Minister.

Yep. I heard the statement Bainimarama made; he's appointed a new, temporary PM, and says there will be democratic elections at some point in the near future.

Qarase, meanwhile, has re-iterated (in an interview with the BBC) that he refuses to resign (even though de facto he's no longer in power), and has accused Bainimarama of wanting to be a military dictator.

I would like a coup in the UK sometime it would be much more logical than voting seeing as how apathetic we are now!

I would like a coup in the UK sometime it would be much more logical than voting seeing as how apathetic we are now!

I wouldn't considering how rosy the last English civil war was

Well I think the coup was a tad premature if there were laws past against Indians then I would support it but in this case I think it was far to early to assume that (and on such a fragile country coups should be kept to a minimum)
I think it is their 4th one in 20 odd years.


Neither New Zealand or Australia could do anything military speaking, neither has the troops, let alone if they were to be available for such a mission.

New Zealand has put a ban on 'future' Fijians working in New Zealand until it is solved, as sanctions.

I really cant say i have seen a Fijian all that often anyways.
Maybe a few Rugby players.

It will be interestig to see if it affects Vijay Singh in any way.

I haven't found a thread on this yet. I've been following events in Fiji for the past week or so, and now the predicted coup has taken place. What are your thoughts on Bainimarama's overthrow of Qarase's government?

The background of the coup is a fairly complex one, and you need a reasonable grasp of the history of Fiji's inter-ethnic relations, and of the past three coups.

This BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6209620.stm) is quite good if you want a quick understanding of what's going on and why. And if you want to find out (or be reminded of) the basic regarding the previous three coups (1987, 1987 & 2000), see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6209486.stm).

You can also check the Fiji Times (http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=52962). The Fiji government website is saying very little, and the Fiji military website doesn't even mention the coup.

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Oh for the love of...haven't those people had enough coups already?! Jesus...

What ?
The americans aren´t there yet to restore law and order, Wyatt Earp style :sniper: ?

I´m surprised..

John Howard (leader of Australia) should secretly send some of our SAS dudes over there to assasinate the head honcho and restore some REAL democracy in that place. They are good people with shitassed leaders

John Howard (leader of Australia) should secretly send some of our SAS dudes over there to assasinate the head honcho and restore some REAL democracy in that place. They are good people with shitassed leaders

Please. The last thing we need is another Western democracy going around "restoring order" to countries.

John Howard (leader of Australia) should secretly send some of our SAS dudes over there to assasinate the head honcho and restore some REAL democracy in that place. They are good people with shitassed leaders

then what make them part of us

Please. The last thing we need is another Western democracy going around "restoring order" to countries.

Agreed.

I think Aus & NZ fighting the Fijians would be the worst possible outcome.

Agreed.

I think Aus & NZ fighting the Fijians would be the worst possible outcome.

they got told no, when we got ask to send in troops

Fiji has a military? :confused: What is it, twelve guys in jeeps? :p

Fiji has a military? :confused: What is it, twelve guys in jeeps? :p

love to find a pic to go with this but cant so far
Edit
best i can do three man in a jeep
http://www.english.iup.edu/mmwimson/companyl/armed_and_dangerous.jpg

Australia's currently way too busy with Iraq, Afghanistan, East Timor and the Solomon Islands to mount a clean and effective strike. Besides, the Fijians already asked us to send troops and we said no, plus a violent solution isn't very feasible with such a small population.

So I guess they're on their own. The most we can do is pressure them to return to democracy ASAP and impose sanctions if they don't listen.

Seriously though, most of the world doesn't give a damn about Fiji and their previous government was wholly incompetent anyway.

What ?
The americans aren´t there yet to restore law and order, Wyatt Earp style :sniper: ?

I´m surprised..

No oil probably

The Fijians seem to like their coups, but they just cant seem to get them right, I suppose they like to concentrate on the more important things, like rugby. I heard a story on the BBC earlier today that the new government is actually advertising for jobs as they cant get enough people to fill the government.

With a name like Banana-Rama, it's going to be tons of fun in Fiji. His very name inspires visions of the beach, pool parties, and icy drinks! Mmm!

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