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http://www.newyorkblade.com/2006/12-4/viewpoint/opinion/war.cfm
It gladdens me to see that we are finally starting to remember the reason for this season: the birth of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ. We celebrate the birth of Jesus, not this commercial, secular, disgusting thing the holidays have become.

i doubt you actually read the article. do you not realise that not everyone is a christian, and there are other holidays at this time of year?

http://www.newyorkblade.com/2006/12-4/viewpoint/opinion/war.cfm
It gladdens me to see that we are finally starting to remember the reason for this season: the birth of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ. We celebrate the birth of Jesus, not this commercial, secular, disgusting thing the holidays have become.

Psst! Its been business oriented conservatives that have lead it to become commercialized!

Besides, there is no war on Christmas. That's like saying there is now a war on apple pie.

Psst! Its been business oriented conservatives that have lead it to become commercialized!

Besides, there is no war on Christmas. That's like saying there is now a war on apple pie.

true. what's with the religious right?

When did the US declare war on all the Christmas families?

When did the US declare war on all the Christmas families?

never. the whole war on christmas thing was used by some crazy comservative to attack stores for not being biased towards christians.

http://www.newyorkblade.com/2006/12-4/viewpoint/opinion/war.cfm
It gladdens me to see that we are finally starting to remember the reason for this season: the birth of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ. We celebrate the birth of Jesus, not this commercial, secular, disgusting thing the holidays have become.

And now on Multiland News, it's time for: HISTORY CHECK!

That's right, this is the programme that listens to people then gives you CORRECT facts!

FACT NUMBER ONE: Christmas has roots in... Paganism! That's right, Paganism. Christians later chose it to be the date they would celebrate the birth of Christmas.
http://100777.com/spiritual/xmass

FACT NUMBER TWO: Christmas was originally called "Mass of Christ"! Actually makes sense when you think about it doesn't it? But what did the Mass of Christ celebrate? The resurection? The Light of the Lord? No - Jesus's death! That's right, the Saviour's death! According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, 'mass' is a form of sacrifice ('sacrifice of the mass') which means, every time you say "Merry Christmas", you are actually saying "Merry Christ's sacrifice", or "Merry sacrifice of Christ"! http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10006a.htm

FACT NUMBER THREE: Santa Claus doesn't exist! It may be true that there was once a guy called Saint Nicholas (who may have earned the name "Father Christmas") who went around giving presents to people, but he would have long-since died.

And finally...

FACT NUMBER FOUR: Telling your kids to believe strongly in a completely made-up being, so strongly that they are devastated when they find out he doesn't exist, is actually pretty fucking sick!

FACT NUMBER FOUR: Telling your kids to believe strongly in a completely made-up being, so strongly that they are devastated when they find out he doesn't exist, is actually pretty fucking sick!

If you would stop being naughty then you will stop getting coal.

However, the war on double-posts going as badly as ever.

Psst! Its been business oriented conservatives that have lead it to become commercialized!

Besides, there is no war on Christmas. That's like saying there is now a war on apple pie.

Where can I join up?

However, the war on double-posts going as badly as ever.

lol.

http://www.newyorkblade.com/2006/12-4/viewpoint/opinion/war.cfm
It gladdens me to see that we are finally starting to remember the reason for this season: the birth of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ. We celebrate the birth of Jesus, not this commercial, secular, disgusting thing the holidays have become.
Aah. The War on Christmas ploy.

Psst! Its been business oriented conservatives that have lead it to become commercialized!

Besides, there is no war on Christmas. That's like saying there is now a war on apple pie.

Ah, I remember the Apple and Pumpkin Pie wars of the 1800s...



I guess that could have been better. The first post back is always the hardest...

Ah, I remember the Apple and Pumpkin Pie wars of the 1800s...
you were alive during the 1800's?

Ah, I remember the Apple and Pumpkin Pie wars of the 1800s...



I guess that could have been better. The first post back is always the hardest...

When New Gettysburg fell to the Apple Pie shock troops, when the flames reached the highest as the sugary fire rained from their weaponry, as I ran and heard behind the machines of war grinding away, that night was the hardest night of my life.

I still wake at night and listen to the screams of the children fleeing from previously harmless desserts.

The horror...the horror...

I remember the war on Christmas. It was 1995, and my little brother got the "Siege!" boardgame. Tiny orange projectiles flew, tiny green men laid down their plastic lives. The castle nearly fell, but at that darkest hour, a giant cat decided to take a nap on top of the invading force's front line and the defenders prevailed.

Never forget those brave soldiers who fought and died for our plastic cross-section of a castle.

Amen to the victory, but a rather queer source to cite for support ;)

http://www.newyorkblade.com/2006/12-4/viewpoint/opinion/war.cfm
It gladdens me to see that we are finally starting to remember the reason for this season: the birth of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ. We celebrate the birth of Jesus, not this commercial, secular, disgusting thing the holidays have become.

The reason for this season was orginally brought, albeit unintentionally, were copernicus and galileo theorized that the earth revolved around the sun. The earth being further from the sun causes a cold season, during which many holidays happen.

Dude, jesus wasn't even BORN in winter.

I've always been of the opinion that us Christians should just take Christmas and move it to a more accurate date in the summer. Hell, atheists prolly wouldn't mind having to rename the December 25th holiday.

That way everybody wins.

In short, what you're saying is:

"How DARE they not say it the way I want"

It's not about religion, it's about power. Control. You don't care about Jesus, you care about control.

FACT NUMBER FOUR: Telling your kids to believe strongly in a completely made-up being, so strongly that they are devastated when they find out he doesn't exist, is actually pretty fucking sick!
Whaaa?!
Are you telling me Jesus and God don't exist?

I'm devastated, I telt ya! Devastated.

You'd love Japan then. EVERY store right now says "Merry Christmas" and is playing all the old Christmas Carols, even the very religious ones. People are lining up to buy their Christmas cakes to eat as a birthday cake for Jesus. They're ordering their chicken dinners (as turkey is unknown here, KFC does good buisness).

And even better, there's that true Christmas spirit of gift giving here in Japan. Young men are flocking around, trying to find the best expensive gift to give to their girlfriends, the best restaurants to go to, and the nicest hotels. Why, did you know that Christmas is THE day of the year for Japanese women to lose their virginity on? The love hotels are packed solid!

And while I have seen Doraemon and other anime character nativity scenes, and I know that most of the Japanese don't have any clue what those carols mean, and of course most of my kids have Jesus confused with Santa Claus, and let us not forget that Christmas is being used as an excuse to sell MORE things and is viwed here the same way the US views New Years; they DO say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays.

So... Merii Kurisumasu anddo Happi Nyuu Eaa to you.

You'd love Japan then. EVERY store right now says "Merry Christmas" and is playing all the old Christmas Carols, even the very religious ones. People are lining up to buy their Christmas cakes to eat as a birthday cake for Jesus. They're ordering their chicken dinners (as turkey is unknown here, KFC does good buisness).

And even better, there's that true Christmas spirit of gift giving here in Japan. Young men are flocking around, trying to find the best expensive gift to give to their girlfriends, the best restaurants to go to, and the nicest hotels. Why, did you know that Christmas is THE day of the year for Japanese women to lose their virginity on? The love hotels are packed solid!

And while I have seen Doraemon and other anime character nativity scenes, and I know that most of the Japanese don't have any clue what those carols mean, and of course most of my kids have Jesus confused with Santa Claus, and let us not forget that Christmas is being used as an excuse to sell MORE things and is viwed here the same way the US views New Years; they DO say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays.

So... Merii Kurisumasu anddo Happi Nyuu Eaa to you.

Wait, christmas is the day of the year for nubile Japanese females to get laid? SEND ME A TICKET TO JAPAN! ONEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAI!!!!

Wait, christmas is the day of the year for nubile Japanese females to get laid? SEND ME A TICKET TO JAPAN! ONEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAI!!!!

Sorry man, the sex trade in japan is closed to foreigners.

A Message From All Atheists, Agnostics, And Probably Non-Christians: (I hope)

WE DON'T !@#$ing CARE IF YOU SAY 'MERRY CHRISTMAS'!!!!! It DOES NOT OFFEND US. Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas are BOTH FINE. WE DO NOT CARE IF YOU CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS! That is YOUR perogative and we will not, and ARE NOT, interfering, no matter how you wish to spin it. THERE IS NO BLOODY WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!

This message has been brought to you by Hamilay for Non-Christians.

Sorry man, the sex trade in japan is closed to foreigners.
Not always. There are places that are happy to serve(ice) gaikokujin.

But in any case, Heikoku, Christmas is considered to be a very romantic, if not THE most romantic, time of the year for young lovers and many women chose to 'give it up' on Christmas Eve to their boy friends.

They're not exactly wandering around desperatly searching for someone to get them laid on Christmas... Well, maybe in Roppongi, but that's Roppongi for you.

Not always. There are places that are happy to serve(ice) gaikokujin.

But in any case, Heikoku, Christmas is considered to be a very romantic, if not THE most romantic, time of the year for young lovers and many women chose to 'give it up' on Christmas Eve to their boy friends.

They're not exactly wandering around desperatly searching for someone to get them laid on Christmas... Well, maybe in Roppongi, but that's Roppongi for you.

ROPPONGI GA SUKI!!! :D

So, send them already? :p

ROPPONGI GA SUKI!!! :D

So, send them already? :p
Sorry, I spent all my money on tickets for myself to go home. Kinda want to see my wife... ;)

Sorry, I spent all my money on tickets for myself to go home. Kinda want to see my wife... ;)

You want to LEAVE Japan?

How can you? It's filled with Asian girls! :D

jk ;)

You want to LEAVE Japan?

How can you? It's filled with Asian girls! :D

jk ;)
*lol* Well, my wife IS Japanese, so it's not like I'm leaving Asian girls, I'm just going home to see one very special one.

Besides, I'm coming back after Christmas. We have to spend Oshougatsu with my wife's family and they're expecting me to pound the mochi again.

Proof that it's obvious TRA didn't read the article:

IF JESUS WERE a greeter at Wal-Mart, I bet he’d welcome customers with the more inclusive "happy holidays."

Jesus was about humility and respecting other people, while this phony "War on Christmas" is about humiliation and disrespecting the views of others. This is a muscular version of religion that seeks to overpower and stomp on diversity.

The reason that retail stores began to say "happy holidays" was a recognition that many of their shoppers were not Christians. It was not a war on anyone or anything, but a matter of courtesy. After all, why would a genuine Christian want to tell a Hindu, Jew or atheist "Merry Christmas?"

If he had, he wouldn't be spouting his bald-faced ignorance with such pride.

They're not exactly wandering around desperatly searching for someone to get them laid on Christmas... Well, maybe in Roppongi, but that's Roppongi for you.

*buys ticket*

*buys ticket*

*Steals Zarakon's ticket* :D