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Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.

If they (i doubt it) actually did ban you just for that poll alone, then that is biased indeed when most of the time biased polls go without even a warning.

Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.

Hmmmm.....

The moderators here, in my experience, are anything but bias. You break the rules, you get punished, regardless of your political views. Simple as.

Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.


Well.. bye then..

Good luck with that whole life thing and all..

you know you can become DOS for dodging forumbans.

Nope, that's not why you were banned. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12032933&postcount=3)

Goodbye, though.

[snip]check out the mod forum for why you were banned.
and posting around a ban is a no no.

"MeanToAnEnd wasn't banned for his poll choices, he was banned for his troll-like phrasing in defense of his poll choices. That, plus his massive accumulated priors, justified the ban.

As for the comparative to the other poll, it's pretty obvious that the poll made by South Lizasauria was a joke thread, with a joke poll, with joke options. My response to Havvy was a joke response. C'mon, people. A little common sense could be applied."

Thats why you we're banned. Take it like a man and get over it instead of avting like an infant and shouting "its not fair".

The moderators here, in my experience, are anything but bias. You break the rules, you get punished, regardless of your political views. Simple as.

I am inclined to agree. They are actually much more lenient than most other forums. Hell, I posted an argument justifying the holocaust, and the moderators didn't say anything.

They do stick to the rules so far as I've seen. I've been banned before, but not for ideaological expression. You basically have to flame someone or something of the like.

Interesting. I don't know about his 'trollish' posts in his thread, but I wouldn't consider his other threads trolling. I do think he actually believes what he says.

peace out home slice

I would have to side with the mods on this one, they are actually very linnet. Hell they even let a pedophile post his opinion here, so if you did something to warrant a ban, then it was probably your own fault.

Did MTAE ever respond to the Farmy-Dome idea?

I am looking forward to the series by Norse Anderson.

You know, I small part of me will miss him. He was a rare thing- a convincing Troll.

......You basically have to flame someone or something of the like.

...or for doing nothing wrong on occassion.

Did MTAE ever respond to the Farmy-Dome idea?

I am looking forward to the series by Norse Anderson.

don't bait him. let him call down mod action on himself with some dignity.

...or for doing nothing wrong on occassion.

I don't think so. The one time I got banned so far was for giving someone the :upyours: like 10 times in the same post and telling him to go **** himself.

I don't think so. The one time I got banned so far was for giving someone the :upyours: like 10 times in the same post and telling him to go **** himself.

Yea, that would do it.

Odd. I seem to recall MTAE vehemently denying, to the point of calling the Mods liars) that CP wasn't his puppet.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, MTAE. :p

Odd. I seem to recall MTAE vehemently denying, to the point of calling the Mods liars) that CP wasn't his puppet.

yep... and Kat called him on it when CP posted in the mod forums saying his nation Mtae was having problems... :D

Yea, that would do it.

That's my point. I was clearly in the wrong. I wasn't voicing a controversial idea. I was being an ass.

Likewise, I posted an argument in favor of the holocaust without breaking the rules (so far as I can see), and it was more or less allowed without comment.

The moderators are as fair as I've seen them. They are about as fair as the moderators on the phora.

yep... and Kat called him on it when CP posted in the mod forums saying his nation Mtae was having problems... :D

I remember that one too............:D

I don't think so. The one time I got banned so far was for giving someone the :upyours: like 10 times in the same post and telling him to go **** himself.

I know so. I got banned for saying something along the lines of "it's wrong to ignore a rape"

The moderators here, in my experience, are anything but bias. You break the rules, you get punished, regardless of your political views. Simple as.

Not really. They're pretty biased against non-liberals.

And while we're listing them, I was banned for participating in the national Aussie sport; poking fun at New Zealanders.

yep... and Kat called him on it when CP posted in the mod forums saying his nation Mtae was having problems... :D

Yeah, I caught that. I noticed there was no response from MTAE on that on that one either. Shock.

I know so. I got banned for saying something along the lines of "it's wrong to ignore a rape"

Was that really the only thing that you said? Is that realy exactly how you said it?

Not really. They're pretty biased against non-liberals.

How so? Go on, this should be amusing...

Not really. They're pretty biased against non-liberals.

I gave an argument supporting the holocaust. They didn't say shit. That's about as nonbiased against non liberals as you can get.

Well, even as a conservative, I'm glad he 's gone. Means was an example of a stupid conservative (just as there are stupid liberals, so there are stupid conservatives)
Especially after that idiotic slavery debate.
Goodbye, Means. I'm not sorry you're gone.

Last I checked, about 90% of his posts (maybe more) were flamebait or something similar, so good riddance. Never had a problem with the mods here, and I really don't think I ever will.

Well, even as a conservative, I'm glad he 's gone. Means was an example of a stupid conservative (just as there are stupid liberals, so there are stupid conservatives)
Especially after that idiotic slavery debate.
Goodbye, Means. I'm not sorry you're gone.

Yea, he did make Conservatives here look bad.

Not really. They're pretty biased against non-liberals.

And while we're listing them, I was banned for participating in the national Aussie sport; poking fun at New Zealanders.
I can't count how many times I've posted on this forum while stoned and the mods never noticed. Seriously, I posted some real stupid shit while I was high.

Though, I guess they might pick and choose depending on the context of the thread...

Was that really the only thing that you said? Is that realy exactly how you said it?

Yes and almost, though I can't remember my exact words.

How so? Go on, this should be amusing...

Well, they're biased against me.

Yes and almost, though I can't remember my exact words.

:rolleyes:

Not really. They're pretty biased against non-liberals.

Assuming you're using the strange American meaning of the word "liberal".

Anyhoo, you'll find that if an individual puts their ideas across sincerely, without resorting to flaming, trolling, or baiting, the mods will let them post regardless of what the views they're espousing are.

However, if a poster resorts to flaming, trolling, and baiting, it is likely the mods will come down on them regardless of political affiliation.

I've been here long enough to know that's absolutely true.

Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.

Goodbye and good riddance. I leave you a respectable farewell:

Fuck you.

I can't count how many times I've posted on this forum while stoned and the mods never noticed. Seriously, I posted some real stupid shit while I was high.

Though, I guess they might pick and choose depending on the context of the thread...

I actually think the Mods know that sometimes things will work themselves out, like if you make a stupid post, the other posters on here will call you on it, and yea.

Well, they're biased against me.

...

I couldn't possibly wonder why that would be, K-P. Though I imagine the flaming and trolling [I]might[I] have something to do with it...

Goodbye and good riddance. I leave you a respectable farewell:

Fuck you.

One of the things you get warned/banned for. :rolleyes:

Well, they're biased against me.They're "biased" against most people with a record of rule violations.

The moderators are anything but bias, MTAE. If they were, DC(Drunk commies) would not have deleted, nor so many of his incarnations, and he's pretty damn liberal.

You were banned not solely for this single poll, but for several attempts at flame baiting and trolling. This was kind of the last straw. It wasn't as bad as previous attempts, I will admit, but it was the last in a long series of events.

:rolleyes:

Oh give me a friggin' break, who can remember their EXACT words? What I do remember is being very pissed off that I'd been banned for making such a statement and I had originally intended to leave nationstates after giving the "moderators" a chance to defend their action on this board

I wish I could tell you how much I'll miss you, Means, but I won't miss you at all.

Do leave with the taste of the last remark I made on how "good" an American you are, though, I'm sure you'll have fun chewing on that.

I'll give credit where credit is due, though; MTAE is a fighter, not a kowtower. I'd rather have MTAE fighting along side me than against me. Not that I agree with many of his psycho-radical policies.

I gave an argument supporting the holocaust. They didn't say shit. That's about as nonbiased against non liberals as you can get.

Indeed. As long as your argument is made intelligently, without intent to bait people, you can pretty much say anything here. I have seen pretty much everything on this forum, from NAMBLA(North American Man-Boy Love Association) members, to pedophiles, to Nazis, and as long as you do not break the rules, you are free to express your opinions. This is hardly showing bias, it is showing good moderation.

I'll give credit where credit is due, though; MTAE is a fighter, not a kowtower. I'd rather have MTAE fighting along side me than against me. Not that I agree with many of his psycho-radical policies.

I quite agree. And he was certainly more articulate than some of the Trolls you find galumphing about. He presented a thorough, well-reasoned proposition, even if the underlying assumptions were sometimes just to the right of Attila the Hun.

Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.



Aww but Neocon Pride is going to miss you :(

;)

One troll banned. What frigging tragedy. *moves on with life*

Oh my God!

IT'S A GENUINE CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!

EDIT: I'd say they're pretty fair, they locked my thread discussing why people call MTAE a troll and told me to take it to email. While I was annoyed, I understood and accepted that I broke a rule.

I'm going to borrow a phrase from the British.

Good Riddence For Bad Rubbish.

Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.

I agree there is Moderator Bias---but not anywhere near as extreme as you suggest and I am certain...saying this coming fresh off a suspension....there is no way you were banned for not putting an option on a poll....now you may have been banned for an option you DID put in the poll, but you didnt get banned for something you DIDNT SAY.

I think I'll miss MTAE. Seeing something conservative, albeit insane, was a refreshing change from the "We need more communism" and "The West sucks" topics.

Well, they're biased against me.

Do you have evidence to back this up?

Aww but Neocon Pride is going to miss you :(

;)

lols, bffs forever.;)

I think I'll miss MTAE. Seeing something conservative, albeit insane, was a refreshing change from the "We need more communism" and "The West sucks" topics.

wow and you don't have a bias...:D

Hello all, this is my (MeansToAnEnd) alternate account. As you may know, I was banned for two weeks. While I respect most of the users who post here, and I have engaged in many honest and rational debates with many of you, this high regard does not extend to the moderators. In fact, I was banned for not posting an option on my poll that said "I would not attack Iraq even after it used a nuclear weapon against us." I acknowledge that this blatant bias is inherent in such a liberal forum, but I never expected it to contaminate the partiality of the moderators. I was proven very wrong indeed. Polls making fun of conservatives or those which are opposed to conservatism abound, and the options are very slanted. Nonetheless, the moderators do not interfere with them. However, when I neglected to put the most radically liberal of options on mine, that seemed to warrant a ban. I'd like to thank all of you who were lucid and logical in your debating; I really enjoyed it. However, some moderators are no better than the ones on Stormfront, and I must make my leave from this forum. Good-bye.

Both as a conservative and a Moderator, I have to say, it sounds like you're just whining.

Not really. They're pretty biased against non-liberals.

And while we're listing them, I was banned for participating in the national Aussie sport; poking fun at New Zealanders.

No, you were banned for making a trolling statement in response to my advice that you not make trolling statements.

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Folks, let's refrain from making claims about Moderator bias in General and indulging in lengthy and dramatic farewells. If you have a legitimate complaint that you can back up with evidence, please go through the proper channels as outlined in the Moderation forum.

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