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Hey everyone, I'm thinking of selling my jeep, but I'm also having second thoughts. It was my first car (1989, Orange Wrangler 4.2L), but I want to give it up to someone who'll take better care of it... I was intending to rebuild it, managed to get the mechanical issues mostly taken care of (The carburator is still dirty, so it starts a little slow and idles very low, and the oil pressure is a little low too.), but haven't been able to turn it into a decent off-roading vehicle like I intended. I don't have the money at the moment, and I'm hoping to sell it and get a more managable vehicle.

I'm wondering what I should ask for it?
The blue-book value is a little over $1550, but I've put in a new power steering pump, new hoses, new brakes (pads, shoes and lines) all around. Like I said, the Carburator is dirty, but I can rebuild that over the weekend. I've got 4 offroad tires and rims with good treat left and 4 road tires which I just got used; they're in almost new condition.

The body is good. Its been painted a bronzeish orange a few years back, and only has some bubbling around the windshield. Unfortunately, it leaks, so when it rains, you will get wet around your ankles.

Its engine is strog, though it needs to be timed (my timing gun broke last tune up, and I haven't done it yet.), and I dented my exhaust system (not the muffler, but the pipe that leads to the muffler, before the catalytic converter) offroading fairly recently. It sounds like crap, but again, I can have that fixed over a weekend.

I'm thinking of asking $2,250, and expecting $1,750 perhaps, since I have done a lot of work. If I repair the issues above, I expect I can get the full $2,250, if not more.

Anyone with older jeeps, do you have any suggestions for me? I really don't want to get rid of this, but I might have to :(.

*Forgot to mention*
I also replaced the muffler, and it has two splash pans, one covering the transmission, and one over the fuel tank.

keep it.

keep it.

Smunkee has spoken. :p

Sell it to a blonde coed, who'll ride around in her bikini with the top down ;)

Keep it ... do this with it (mine)
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep1.jpg

keep it.

I concur.

Keep it ... do this with it (mine)
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep1.jpg

keep it.

Upward Thrust, thats what I'm hoping to do with it. I just don't have time or money for that right now. So you're saying I should keep it until I can? You too Smunkee?

BTW, Thats a very nice offroader, UT. What all have you done with it?

Advice for a Jeep-owner?
Give it to me. http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/yes.gif

Upward Thrust, thats what I'm hoping to do with it. I just don't have time or money for that right now. So you're saying I should keep it until I can? You too Smunkee?



I'd say that's what you should do. I sold my jeep for tuition, and I've regretted it ever since. Sure, having the cash, not having to pay insurance or gas on it is nice, but...the jeep was loads of fun.

Upward Thrust, thats what I'm hoping to do with it. I just don't have time or money for that right now. So you're saying I should keep it until I can? You too Smunkee?

BTW, Thats a very nice offroader, UT. What all have you done with it?

if it's running good enough to drive it, you can use it. Work on it on the weekends, or over holidays, that's how I get time to mess with my Jeep.

90% of the stuff on my Jeep I can fix myself, as long as I have my trusty Haynes Manual.

if it's running good enough to drive it, you can use it. Work on it on the weekends, or over holidays, that's how I get time to mess with my Jeep.

90% of the stuff on my Jeep I can fix myself, as long as I have my trusty Haynes Manual.

Alright Smunkee, you've convinced me. I'm not selling it. Thanks ;)

Alright Smunkee, you've convinced me. I'm not selling it. Thanks ;)

tip: when people ask you what you want for Christmas or your Birthday, ask for money to rebuild your Jeep, throw it out there like it's your hobby, I have recieved gift cards and cash before, people are happy to help.

Upward Thrust, thats what I'm hoping to do with it. I just don't have time or money for that right now. So you're saying I should keep it until I can? You too Smunkee?

BTW, Thats a very nice offroader, UT. What all have you done with it?

Right So far a 2 inch body 4 inch suspension lift. New Jeggs Crate motor, New NV tranny and AtlasII transfer case Went to the 4.56 gear ratio in the diffs and put in an air locker

Give me 15 minuits and I will have some of my latest exploits posted (I got er in some real offroading)

Sell it for scrap. You won't get as good a price, but you'll sleep at night knowing you've helped destroy an evil vehicle.

Sell it for scrap. You won't get as good a price, but you'll sleep at night knowing you've helped destroy an evil vehicle.

Jeeps are not evil, the fact that you would say that proves your indoctrination.

Exactly what kind of jeep are we talking about here?

Ok all I have some pictures (they are big but I cant resize them right now so be patient)

This is me in october

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep3.jpg
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep4.jpg
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep5.jpg
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep6.jpg
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep7.jpg
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep8.jpg

Jeeps are not evil, the fact that you would say that proves your indoctrination.

Jeeps are destructive machines. They selfishly destroy everything around them. The American obsession with owning a vehicle the size of a small mountain is going to ruin the world for my children.

So my advice was asked for, and I advice that the Jeep be destroyed.

Jeeps are destructive machines. They selfishly destroy everything around them. The American obsession with owning a vehicle the size of a small mountain is going to ruin the world for my children.

So my advice was asked for, and I advice that the Jeep be destroyed.

I don't think you understand the difference with between a Jeep and a Hummer.

Either way, it's a free country and I can own whatever type of vehicle I want, my Jeep isn't harming anything any more than anyone else's vehicle does.

Jeeps are destructive machines. They selfishly destroy everything around them. The American obsession with owning a vehicle the size of a small mountain is going to ruin the world for my children.

So my advice was asked for, and I advice that the Jeep be destroyed.

Bigger? Mine only has an 85 inch wheel base

You sir are confused, The object for true offroaders (at least us rock and hill assent guys) is smaller and lighter is better

Ok a few more

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep9.jpg More of me
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep10.jpg More of me
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep11.jpg These two are of me recovering a friends pretty wicked xterra, he sliped and rear axle got hung
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep12.jpg still me winching him

I don't think you understand the difference with between a Jeep and a Hummer.

Either way, it's a free country and I can own whatever type of vehicle I want, my Jeep isn't harming anything any more than anyone else's vehicle does.

The jeep croud laughs when we see the hummer guys not even be able to get into the offroad park

The jeep croud laughs when we see the hummer guys not even be able to get into the offroad park

yes, it's rather funny to me.

yes, it's rather funny to me.

They are just too big ... their wheelbase is about twice what a wrangler is

Keep it ... do this with it (mine)
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep1.jpg

Bloody hell, look at the leaf springs on that thing! :eek:

Bloody hell, look at the leaf springs on that thing! :eek:

Yeah I want to go to coil overs but thats about 4000 bucks starting

And if I do that I will need bigger tires to take advantage of it
And if I do that I need better differentials to handle the increased stress
And if I do that I should bump up the tranny (transfers fine)

Call Xzibit and ask him to pimp your ride. That's all you need.

They are just too big ... their wheelbase is about twice what a wrangler is

well, my Jeep is actually quite a bit larger than yours, but it's still small enough to do what I need it to do (even though I don't need it much anymore since I moved from the mountains to the plains)

It's still a lot smaller than a Hummer, and a lot more efficient than any of the other vehicles it's size.

well, my Jeep is actually quite a bit larger than yours, but it's still small enough to do what I need it to do (even though I don't need it much anymore since I moved from the mountains to the plains)

It's still a lot smaller than a Hummer, and a lot more efficient than any of the other vehicles it's size.

Well I would not call mine efficient ... all the modification took a bit out of that

After gearing down I cant break 60 mph even if I wanted to

Well I would not call mine efficient ... all the modification took a bit out of that

After gearing down I cant break 60 mph even if I wanted to

I adjusted mine for city driving, when I was off-road with it, my Jeep was set up quite a bit differently.

Jeeps are destructive machines. They selfishly destroy everything around them. The American obsession with owning a vehicle the size of a small mountain is going to ruin the world for my children.

So my advice was asked for, and I advice that the Jeep be destroyed.

Uh, yeah. No.

I've always regretted selling my Jeep. It was so much fun compared to the car I have now.

If you do sell it, get a newer Jeep :)

Sell it for scrap. You won't get as good a price, but you'll sleep at night knowing you've helped destroy an evil vehicle.

Yeah, death to jeeps!!! :mp5:

Yeah, death to jeeps!!! :mp5:

Whats wrong with jeeps?

Yeah, death to jeeps!!! :mp5:

I've seen some bad posts in my day, but this is one of the worst.

Jeeps are destructive machines. They selfishly destroy everything around them. The American obsession with owning a vehicle the size of a small mountain is going to ruin the world for my children.

So my advice was asked for, and I advice that the Jeep be destroyed.

You should try surviving an upper Michigan winter without four wheel drive. When I lived up north there were no trees between my house and Lake Superior, so the 10 mile road into town turned into a giant sheet of ice, and when it snowed it took all day for the plows to get out to where I lived. If I hadn't traded my Mini for a Jeep they probably would have found me frozen in the bottom of a ditch the next spring.

However, I have moved to a town in lower Michigan so I traded my Jeep for a Miata. However, there have been several days lately where I can't go visit friends because I'd end up in a ditch and I really don't want to pay an exorbitant fee to have a tow truck come extract me.

Ok a few more

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep9.jpg More of me
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep10.jpg More of me
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep11.jpg These two are of me recovering a friends pretty wicked xterra, he sliped and rear axle got hung
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep12.jpg still me winching him

Fixed the links things were a bit off

Jeeps are destructive machines. They selfishly destroy everything around them. The American obsession with owning a vehicle the size of a small mountain is going to ruin the world for my children.

So my advice was asked for, and I advice that the Jeep be destroyed.

Alright. I've ruled your options out.

UT, roughly how much money have you put into yours so far? I'm strongly considering joining the military, so I'll have a bit of extra money to put into mine. And what sort of lift kit would you recommend?

Alright. I've ruled your options out.

UT, roughly how much money have you put into yours so far? I'm strongly considering joining the military, so I'll have a bit of extra money to put into mine. And what sort of lift kit would you recommend?

7 thousand including jeep purchase

Jeep is worth about 4 thousand it is an 88 YJ

Alright. I've ruled your options out.

UT, roughly how much money have you put into yours so far? I'm strongly considering joining the military, so I'll have a bit of extra money to put into mine. And what sort of lift kit would you recommend?

Ok more accurate estimate I found my document

Tires: 185 Per tire for the Xterains X5
Rims: 94 a piece /5
Suspension lift about 500
Body lift about 150
Warn 8274 winch 1200
Arb lockers for 2 axels 1850 with pump
bumpers about 300
Lights about 300
Geer change: 1000 (about bought the axles like that)
New transmission: 2500

So mods come to about 8700

Ok more accurate estimate I found my document

Tires: 185 Per tire for the Xterains X5
Rims: 94 a piece /5
Suspension lift about 500
Body lift about 150
Warn 8274 winch 1200
Arb lockers for 2 axels 1850 with pump
bumpers about 300
Lights about 300
Geer change: 1000 (about bought the axles like that)
New transmission: 2500

So mods come to about 8700


Alright, thank you. I'm going to look into this; maybe a project for my brother and me.

Alright, thank you. I'm going to look into this; maybe a project for my brother and me.

For the most part you can cut the trany out of there your important ones will be the Suspension lift rims and tires to start to get it prepped

Having the lockers comes next as well as a winch are you thinking rock or mud jeep? (a rock jeep will do some mud but a mud jeep wont do rock)

For the most part you can cut the trany out of there your important ones will be the Suspension lift rims and tires to start to get it prepped

Having the lockers comes next as well as a winch are you thinking rock or mud jeep? (a rock jeep will do some mud but a mud jeep wont do rock)

Probably a rock jeep, but make it as good with mud as possible. Where I am, theres some rock, but where I plan on moving (Northern New England), theres mostly rock. I've already got rims and tires, so I just need the lift?

Probably a rock jeep, but make it as good with mud as possible. Where I am, theres some rock, but where I plan on moving (Northern New England), theres mostly rock. I've already got rims and tires, so I just need the lift?
You dont have rock tires I am betting ... you NEED them if you plan on rock

Something like Xterains or SuperSwamper TSL's
Ruber is EXTREEMLY important

Check out some of thoes pictures I sent you notice my tires not only are they wider then stock but they have more flex and thoes are 33 inchers. Also note in pictures 9 and 10
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep9.jpg
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep10.jpg

I have mine down to 6 psi without a bead lock (I still want mine street legal for now)

Notice how the tire performs wraping around the rock and gripping

Trust me rubber is the biggest investment you will mak. And to support the rubber I have I also had to get wider rims. Stock rims are only 6-7 inches wide mine are 11 this allows a wider tire

Probably a rock jeep, but make it as good with mud as possible. Where I am, theres some rock, but where I plan on moving (Northern New England), theres mostly rock. I've already got rims and tires, so I just need the lift?

Oh also you may need to switch rim sized not only for width but some come with a stock 16 inch rim ... its harder and more expensive to find off road tires in, most come in a 15 inch rim

Oh also you may need to switch rim sized not only for width but some come with a stock 16 inch rim ... its harder and more expensive to find off road tires in, most come in a 15 inch rim

I've got 15 inch rims. The guy who owned mine before me had tires and rims, but they're definately not rock tires.

I'm actually wondering about lifts now; what would you recommend?

UT, after looking at pictures of your Jeep, I notice that you still have a spring-under axle setup. Have you considered a spring-over conversion to gain some inexpensive lift?