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Someone was saying today that he could get 10,000 people in our local area alone to sign a petition calling for women's suffrage to be revoked.
What proportion of people would genuinely want this, and what proportion could be tricked into signing such a petition (thinking suffrage is the same as suffring)?

By the way, my personal opinion is that, if anyone ever made enough of a case for this for it to become an election issue, then virtually every woman in the country (even those who don't normally bother) would vote against any party proposing it.

Never underestimate ignorance or stupidity. I'm sure a lot of people don't know the definition of the word "suffrage".

Non-starter. Never gonna happen.

Care to make the distinction between siffrage and suffering for the unsure among us(I knot they're different, I just don't rememeber what suffrage is. And I doubt I'm the only one)

Never underestimate ignorance or stupidity. I'm sure a lot of people don't know the definition of the word "suffrage".

Actually, now that you mention it, I remember a bit Leno did where he polled people on the streets of NYC, asking if they would support ending women's suffrage. A lot said things like, "Yeah, we need to stop the suffering of women."

Care to make the distinction between siffrage and suffering for the unsure among us(I knot they're different, I just don't rememeber what suffrage is. And I doubt I'm the only one)

I had you pegged higher than this, mate. Suffrage is the right to vote. You were one of those people Leno interviewed, aren't you? :p

Someone was saying today that he could get 10,000 people in our local area alone to sign a petition calling for women's suffrage to be revoked.
What proportion of people would genuinely want this, and what proportion could be tricked into signing such a petition (thinking suffrage is the same as suffring)?

By the way, my personal opinion is that, if anyone ever made enough of a case for this for it to become an election issue, then virtually every woman in the country (even those who don't normally bother) would vote against any party proposing it.
A politician who would endorse such a move would likely face political suicide.

Never underestimate ignorance or stupidity. I'm sure a lot of people don't know the definition of the word "suffrage".

Years ago The Man Show did a bit on that, where they had a table set up and asked people to sign a petition opposing women's suffrage. Sadly, it got a surprising amount of support, precisely because of ignorance.

I had you pegged higher than this, mate. Suffrage is the right to vote. You were one of those people Leno interviewed, aren't you? :p

I knew it had something to do with voting, but better to be sure. It seemed familiar from back in the dark days of history when I studied history. Suffragettes FTW, IMS.

Never underestimate ignorance or stupidity. I'm sure a lot of people don't know the definition of the word "suffrage".

Can't you see the campaign? Crowds of people, marching with signs, "End Women's Suffrage!"
And children, with signs saying, "Please don't make my Mommy suffer!"

LOL

Years ago The Man Show did a bit on that, where they had a table set up and asked people to sign a petition opposing women's suffrage. Sadly, it got a surprising amount of support, precisely because of ignorance.

Whoever signed it should lose their suffrage. Almost makes me a proponent for voting eligibility tests.

A politician who would endorse such a move would likely face political suicide.

That's the point I tried to make when he suggested that, if he did get the required number of signatures, our MP would be obliged to support it.

Care to make the distinction between siffrage and suffering for the unsure among us(I knot they're different, I just don't rememeber what suffrage is. And I doubt I'm the only one)

I'll have to turn this into a sig.

I'll have to turn this into a sig.

Great, people sig me when my fingers decide to be idiots. :(

Years ago The Man Show did a bit on that, where they had a table set up and asked people to sign a petition opposing women's suffrage. Sadly, it got a surprising amount of support, precisely because of ignorance.

You're right. It wasn't Leno. That's where I saw it.

I knew it had something to do with voting, but better to be sure. It seemed familiar from back in the dark days of history when I studied history. Suffragettes FTW, IMS.

Oy...and I had so much hope for you... :p

Great, people sig me when my fingers decide to be idiots. :(

I should sig that :p

I should sig that :p

Ifreann is on a roll... :p

Ifreann is on a roll... :p

I'd sig both of 'em if I weren't close to the limit. :D

There is a sizable portion of voting Americans too ignorant to know what suffrage means and too proud to ask. Some of them too proud of being ignorant.

Ifreann is on a roll... :p

Jolt insists that I stick something in.

There is a sizable portion of voting Americans too ignorant to know what suffrage means and too proud to ask. Some of them too proud of being ignorant.

Amen! I try hard to not be one of them.

Whoever signed it should lose their suffrage. Almost makes me a proponent for voting eligibility tests.

Well, that's a WHOLE different story! Franchised voting is definitely the way to go!

Well, that's a WHOLE different story! Franchised voting is definitely the way to go!

Would you vote KFC or McDonald's?

Would you vote KFC or McDonald's?

KFC, cuz I love fried chicken! :D

By the way, my personal opinion is that, if anyone ever made enough of a case for this for it to become an election issue, then virtually every woman in the country (even those who don't normally bother) would vote against any party proposing it.Nope. I've heard comments from some that indicate they would vote in favor of such a thing. But they are rare, and considering that A) there are typically more women than men, B) women have a higher voter turnout than men, and C) a lot more men would be against this than women for it, we can safely say that such a plebiscite would most likely be failed, if it isn't ruled unconstitutional.

Non-starter. Never gonna happen.

You'd think that, but I'm sad to say people from my home district elected a guy running on a eugenics platform. Openly.

Not gunna happen.
People are ignorant, yes.
But... no, not gunna happen.

I don’t think anyone seriously was arguing for revoking suffrage – the only people signing it would be those too ignorant to understand and too stupid to ask, or those who know exactly what its all about and want in on the joke.

Things like this simply highlight why democracy doesn’t work.

What proportion of people would genuinely want this, and what proportion could be tricked into signing such a petition (thinking suffrage is the same as suffring)?


In the words of Borat...

"Having woman in government is like having monkey fly plane."

i think we should take away female voting just for a laugh.

You'd think that, but I'm sad to say people from my home district elected a guy running on a eugenics platform. Openly.

Tennessee, huh? That figures.

You'd think that, but I'm sad to say people from my home district elected a guy running on a eugenics platform. Openly.

When you reveal where you're from, do you get people singing at you constantly?

"Pardon me boys, is that the Chattanooga choo choo?"

There is a sizable portion of voting Americans too ignorant to know what suffrage means and too proud to ask. Some of them too proud of being ignorant.

It's not just Americans - I live in the UK, and the same can be said for the British electorate!:headbang:

When you reveal where you're from, do you get people singing at you constantly?

"Pardon me boys, is that the Chattanooga choo choo?"

I don't get a whole lot of Chattanooga Choo-Choo sung at me, but my home district isn't Chattanooga, I'm just attending our high-quality state university here. :rolleyes:

Anyways, my home district is in the more rural part of west Tennessee. It was funny, no one thought he'd make it and then he did. He was running as a republican and the moment it made the news they were like "OH SHIT HE'S NOT ONE OF US!"

I knew it had something to do with voting, but better to be sure. It seemed familiar from back in the dark days of history when I studied history. Suffragettes FTW, IMS.

heh Google is your friend

Someone was saying today that he could get 10,000 people in our local area alone to sign a petition calling for women's suffrage to be revoked.
What proportion of people would genuinely want this, and what proportion could be tricked into signing such a petition (thinking suffrage is the same as suffring)?

By the way, my personal opinion is that, if anyone ever made enough of a case for this for it to become an election issue, then virtually every woman in the country (even those who don't normally bother) would vote against any party proposing it.

sounds like the petition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide.

I thought this might have been a serious MTAE post.
Thank the sweet Lord I was mistaken.

I thought this might have been a serious MTAE post.
Thank the sweet Lord I was mistaken.

Nah, MTAE got himself forumbanned for 2 weeks.

If the USA takes away the women's right to vote, I will either move to Canada, the UK, Australia, or kill myself. :headbang:

And yay! I know what suffrage is and never once took a history class that discussed suffrage at all! :D

And yay! I know what suffrage is and never once took a history class that discussed suffrage at all! :D
Neither did I.


Yay for School House Rocks!

oh we were suffering, till sufferage...
not a woman could vote no matter what age,

Nah, MTAE got himself forumbanned for 2 weeks.

If the USA takes away the women's right to vote, I will either move to Canada, the UK, Australia, or kill myself. :headbang:

And yay! I know what suffrage is and never once took a history class that discussed suffrage at all! :D

How the hell did he do that?
And move to the UK,it's good over here :)

How the hell did he do that?
And move to the UK,it's good over here :)

check the Mod forum, look for Poll Query, I link to the thread that banned him.

Care to make the distinction between siffrage and suffering for the unsure among us(I knot they're different, I just don't rememeber what suffrage is. And I doubt I'm the only one)You're think that an uber spamgirl like you would be in the know! Men; they know all this war history, but they never remember the small bits of history that actually are directly related to women.

By the way, dictionary.com is a lifesaver. I have it bookmarked so that I know what all you learned Nationstates people are on about. Otherwise I'd see a word I don't know and would forever remain ignorant of its meaning.

(Yeah! Hurray!)
Now you have heard of Women's Rights,
And how we've tried to reach new heights.
If we're "all created equal"...
That's us too!

(Yeah!)

But you will proba ... bly not recall
That it's not been too ... too long at all,
Since we even had the right to
Cast a vote.

(Well!)

Well, sure, some men bowed down and called us "Mrs." (Yeah!)
Let us hang the wash out and wash the dishes, (Huh!)
But when the time rolled around to elect a president...

What did they say, Sister, (What did they say?)

They said, uh, "See ya later, alligator,
And don't forget my ... my mashed potatoes,
'Cause I'm going downtown to cast my vote for president."

Oh, we were suffering until suffrage,
Not a woman here could vote, no matter what age,
Then the 19th Amendment struck down that restrictive rule. (Oh yeah!)

And now we pull down on the lever,
Cast our ballots and we endeavor
To improve our country, state, county, town, and school.

(Tell 'em 'bout it!)

Those pilgrim women who ...
Who braved the boat
Could cook the turkey, but they ...
They could not vote.
Even Betsy Ross who sewed the flag was left behind that first election day.

(What a shame, Sisters!)

Then Susan B. Anthony (Yeah!) and Julia Howe,
(Lucretia!) Lucretia Mott, (and others!) they showed us how;
They carried signs and marched in lines
Until at long last the law was passed.

Oh, we were suffering until suffrage,
Not a woman here could vote, no matter what age,
Then the 19th Amendment struck down that restrictive rule. (Oh yeah!)

And now we pull down on the lever,
Cast our ballots and we endeavor
To improve our country, state, county, town, and school. (Right On! Right On!)

Yes the 19th Amendment
Struck down that restrictive rule. (Right On! Right On!)

Yes the 19th Amendment
Struck down that restrictive rule.
(Yeah, yeah!
Yeah, yeah!
Right on!
We got it now!

Since 1920...
Sisters, unite!
Vote on!

i think we should take away female voting just for a laugh.

Yeah, because taking away the rights of the female population would be so funny! (sarcasm).

On another note, i am appalled by the number of people who don't know what suffrage is. People of such ignorance should really go read a book or do some research on random things. Look at it this way, if they don't know what suffrage is, imagine all the other things they don't know about. I'm 14 years old and studied what it was when i was 11; it's not exactly complicated stuff. I think we can all agree that people like this should educate themselves to help both themselves and society. And then there are those who are "too lazy" and don't do anything. They should shoot themselves.

The candidate wouldn't leave to election day.

Yeah, because taking away the rights of the female population would be so funny! (sarcasm).

actually, what those women would do to the persons who drafted and voted for the bill might be.


Painful... yes, Revolting... definatly... but it might also be funny to watch.

sounds like the petition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide.

This is one of those college things that prey on the ignorant. We got 73% of women on FSU to agree to ban women's suffrage. We also got 53% of Freshmen Science Majors to try to ban H2O (Dihydrogen Monoxide.)

A friend and I did this at our school once. We made a poster that said "End Women's Suffrage" and an empty sheet for signatures and put them on the main bulletin board. We got about 15 signatures before the principal took it down later that day.

I'd say about 1/3 of the students who saw it actually knew what the word meant.

This is one of those college things that prey on the ignorant. We got 73% of women on FSU to agree to ban women's suffrage. We also got 53% of Freshmen Science Majors to try to ban H2O (Dihydrogen Monoxide.)
Oh my God.

This is one of those college things that prey on the ignorant. We got 73% of women on FSU to agree to ban women's suffrage. We also got 53% of Freshmen Science Majors to try to ban H2O (Dihydrogen Monoxide.)

And a damn good thing, too, that Dihydrogen Monoxide ban! That stuff is incredibly dangerous! Think of the children!

And a damn good thing, too, that Dihydrogen Monoxide ban! That stuff is incredibly dangerous! Think of the children!

not to mention that most everyone who died in the India Tidal wave were found to have HUGE quantities of Dihydrogen Monoxide in their system? if they didn't the chances of their survival would've been higher.

Yeah, I know, right? Not to mention you can die, too, by drinking too much dihydrogen monoxide. You can get the symptom known as hyponatremia which can really mess up your cells.:P if untreated, hyponatremia can lead to coma or death. BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE! Stick with just drinking water...

















oops. I meant... uh... damn...

Years ago The Man Show did a bit on that, where they had a table set up and asked people to sign a petition opposing women's suffrage. Sadly, it got a surprising amount of support, precisely because of ignorance.

Do you mean this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUP9Jm9SqvY

It makes no difference if you could get a law passed. It's unconstitutional so it would just be struck down in court.

It makes no difference if you could get a law passed. It's unconstitutional so it would just be struck down in court.
Unless of course they also amended the constitution, but that is not likely at all.

If the USA takes away the women's right to vote, I will either move to Canada, the UK, Australia, or kill myself. :headbang:


You're probably safe in the USA, cos it'd be declared unconstitutional.
This side of the pond, we just have to rely on democracy to keep itself working.