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John Bolton has resigned.

http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_world.php?page_zone=150.7.3&storyid=1239871

Is this a good or a bad thing in people's opinions?

Good thing. He was ambasodor to the UN and held it in contempt. He wasnt a good man for the job

Your question doesn't fit a "yes/no" answer. :rolleyes:

Your question doesn't fit a "yes/no" answer. :rolleyes:

Well...yeah,I know.Just in your general opinion.This is the first poll I've made,mind,I'm only a n00blet :(

Your question doesn't fit a "yes/no" answer. :rolleyes:
Indeed.


But yay, this is good news.

Well...yeah,I know.Just in your general opinion.This is the first post I've made,mind,I'm only a n00blet :(
Heh, no, s/he meant your poll. ;)

Heh, no, s/he meant your poll. ;)

Aha!
Well spotted.I changed the wording a liddle.

I am glad. :)

You realize of course the poll question is asking whether it's a good or bad thing. The only answer is yes, it's either a good thing or a bad thing.

Aha!
Well spotted.I changed the wording a liddle.

It didn't work :(

"Is John Bolton resigning a good thing or a bad thing?"
"Yes, it is a good thing or a bad thing."

You realize of course the poll question is asking whether it's a good or bad thing. The only answer is yes, it's either a good thing or a bad thing.

....Damned crappy wording.
OK.For future reference for everyone.The poll's worded badly,and I meant-
Is the fact that John Bolton has resigned as UN ambassador a good thing or a bad thing?

John Bolton resigns. And there was great rejoicing. Yaaaaaaaay

You realize of course the poll question is asking whether it's a good or bad thing. The only answer is yes, it's either a good thing or a bad thing.

It could be neither good nor bad, their definitions being mostly subjective. Does the UN really do anything? If not, who cares about the US delegate?

Of course it is a good thing. Not that his replacement will be much of an improvement.

Aha!
Well spotted.I changed the wording a liddle.

....Damned crappy wording.
OK.For future reference for everyone.The poll's worded badly,and I meant-
Is the fact that John Bolton has resigned as UN ambassador a good thing or a bad thing?

heh, no, you're still off. The problem is not in the wording, including "opinion" or not, or whatever.

The problem is that your poll asks "Is this good or bad?" and the options for answer are "yes" and "no".

I.e. either "Yes, this is good or bad" or "No, this is good or bad". Not making much sense, is it?

See? :p

....Damned crappy wording.
OK.For future reference for everyone.The poll's worded badly,and I meant-
Is the fact that John Bolton has resigned as UN ambassador a good thing or a bad thing?

But you can't answer "Yes" or "No" to that question. It's not the question that is poorly asked, but the answers supplied don't answer it!

heh, no, you're still off. The problem is not in the wording, including "opinion" or not, or whatever.

The problem is that your poll asks "Is this good or bad?" and the options for answer are "yes" and "no".

I.e. either "Yes, this is good or bad" or "No, this is good or bad". Not making much sense, is it?

See? :p

Damn me being crap at this whole NS thing.It's only a first poll.
Leave me alone! :(
Hehe.

OK,just ignore the poll,it's crap.
Just give opinions.

Meh. Not my fantasy in which he's eaten by an alligator while going through excruciating rectal pain, but I'm not complaining.

Damn me being crap at this whole NS thing.It's only a first poll.
Leave me alone! :(
Hehe.

We're only trying to help! :fluffle:
You've got to admit, you're much less likely to screw up your next poll, neh?

We're only trying to help! :fluffle:
You've got to admit, you're much less likely to screw up your next poll, neh?

Help, eh? Nah, we just like jumping on others errors. It is a tradition of NS, methinks. :)

Let's just say "yes" = good, and "no" = bad.

We're only trying to help! :fluffle:
You've got to admit, you're much less likely to screw up your next poll, neh?

Hoozah,a fluffle!
And yeah,it's true.I do appreciate the help,I'm not all that experienced.

Let's just say "yes" = good, and "no" = bad.

I disagree. I voted "no" because I think his resignation (and the position he resigned) is largely meaningless, making it neither good, nor bad.

I disagree. I voted "no" because I think his resignation (and the position he resigned) is largely meaningless, making it neither good, nor bad.

Is it possible to get the ops to change a poll? :p

It could be neither good nor bad, their definitions being mostly subjective. Does the UN really do anything? If not, who cares about the US delegate?Since it does, I suppose that means you care about the US SC delegate.

*doesn't care, one way or the other*

A very BAD thing. John Bolton was exactly the right man for the job of confronting the corruption, abuse and anti-Americanism that dominate that benighted organization. He spoke truth to power.

His resignation is another fruit of the poisonous tree of the lust for power at any cost, regardless of the damage done to the US in the process, that characterizes the Ass-o-crat Party.

Hopefullly President Bush will make another recess appointment, keep him on the job for another year, then do it again so that he stays on the job until '09. Don't compromise with the Ass-o-crats, Mr. President, stick it to 'em :D

His resignation is another fruit of the poisonous tree of the lust for power at any cost, regardless of the damage done to the US in the process, that characterizes the Ass-o-crat Party.

LOL ASS-O-CRAT!

God DAMN, New Mitanni, you're such a funny guy. Pull my finger! LOL IM FUNNY TOO!

A very BAD thing. John Bolton was exactly the right man for the job of confronting the corruption, abuse and anti-Americanism that dominate that benighted organization. He spoke truth to power.

His resignation is another fruit of the poisonous tree of the lust for power at any cost, regardless of the damage done to the US in the process, that characterizes the Ass-o-crat Party.

Hopefullly President Bush will make another recess appointment, keep him on the job for another year, then do it again so that he stays on the job until '09. Don't compromise with the Ass-o-crats, Mr. President, stick it to 'em :D


The U.N. is bad, because it won't always do what we want. Stick it to the Ass-o-crats! Yay Repugnantcans!:rolleyes:

The U.N. is bad, because it won't always do what we want. Stick it to the Ass-o-crats! Yay Repugnantcans!:rolleyes:

'Tis a good thing... Slowly peeling away at Bush's allies 'till he's all alone in a lonely little Presidental Island.
And tbh, it serves him right, not for Iraq, but for making people like myself (i.e.: Europeans) view America has politically inconsiquencial.

Assuming that "no" = "bad thing" I voted for "no"

'Tis a good thing... Slowly peeling away at Bush's allies 'till he's all alone in a lonely little Presidental Island.
And tbh, it serves him right, not for Iraq, but for making people like myself (i.e.: Europeans) view America has politically inconsiquencial.

we hold you in high reguard too, not

bolton stood up to the un power system and called them out on their abuses
he also delivered the message that guns are off limits in the usa to the un - while that may annoy you, it means that we are free and not serfs

england has given up private arms for the most part - that's your perogative - i's also your perogative to be assaulted and able to do nothing in return

ymmv

we hold you in high reguard too, not

bolton stood up to the un power system and called them out on their abuses
he also delivered the message that guns are off limits in the usa to the un - while that may annoy you, it means that we are free and not serfs

england has given up private arms for the most part - that's your perogative - i's also your perogative to be assaulted and able to do nothing in return

ymmv

We're not anyone's serfs. Yeah, aren't the other nations supposed to be our serfs?

How dare anyone not follow our wishes? :rolleyes:

worst.poll. ever. that said its a great thing.

A very BAD thing. John Bolton was exactly the right man for the job of confronting the corruption, abuse and anti-Americanism that dominate that benighted organization. He spoke truth to power.

His resignation is another fruit of the poisonous tree of the lust for power at any cost, regardless of the damage done to the US in the process, that characterizes the Ass-o-crat Party.

Hopefullly President Bush will make another recess appointment, keep him on the job for another year, then do it again so that he stays on the job until '09. Don't compromise with the Ass-o-crats, Mr. President, stick it to 'em :D

False. And Bolton himself said he'll step down, perhaps because of the shoddy clown-work he's done so far, so don't get your hopes up.

Your hatred for the UN is nothing more than a child's "I hate you" at their parents when their parents don't give them candy. So is Bolton's.

And Bush will HAVE to compromise now, and will be FORCED to do so, more and more, until he fades out of power. Deal.

bolton stood up to the un power system and called them out on their abusesMaybe he should be held accountable for his own first.
he also delivered the message that guns are off limits in the usa to the un - while that may annoy you, it means that we are free and not serfsA) Only an idiot would believe that the UN has any power to take your guns away
B) Americans are not all that free (The US has pretty much the highest economic freedoms in the world, but when it comes to social freedoms, it lags behind the rest of the west)

A very BAD thing. John Bolton was exactly the right man for the job of confronting the corruption, abuse and anti-Americanism that dominate that benighted organization. He spoke truth to power.

You think Anti-Americanism is something to fight?

the world hates us because we fight them.

If you want to end Anti-Americanism, don't force the people who hate us to change, change America.

We are a nation of arrogant, swaggering, assholes, and the world is fed up with us and our bullying.

We are the reason the world hates us, and in my mind, the Anti-American sentiment in the UN is well deserved.

I will agree about the corruption, but John Bolton is not the one who has to end Anti-American sentiments: We are.

Good riddance

Good bloody riddance.

False. And Bolton himself said he'll step down, perhaps because of the shoddy clown-work he's done so far, so don't get your hopes up.

Your hatred for the UN is nothing more than a child's "I hate you" at their parents when their parents don't give them candy. So is Bolton's.

And Bush will HAVE to compromise now, and will be FORCED to do so, more and more, until he fades out of power. Deal.

You think Anti-Americanism is something to fight?

the world hates us because we fight them.

If you want to end Anti-Americanism, don't force the people who hate us to change, change America.

We are a nation of arrogant, swaggering, assholes, and the world is fed up with us and our bullying.

We are the reason the world hates us, and in my mind, the Anti-American sentiment in the UN is well deserved.

I will agree about the corruption, but John Bolton is not the one who has to end Anti-American sentiments: We are.


Quoted for truth.

His prehensile mustache threatens Kofi Annan no more!

His prehensile mustache threatens Kofi Annan no more!

And once John Bolton's moustache had been defeated,the UN was free,and world peace was restored,and all was well.
How's that for a bedtime story kids?

Between this and the selection of Reyes - who voted against the iraq war - for the house intelligence chairman, it looks like the democrats really will be doing some housecleaning.

Yay!

LOL ASS-O-CRAT!

God DAMN, New Mitanni, you're such a funny guy. Pull my finger! LOL IM FUNNY TOO!
Okay......where are the sarcasm tags???? :p

Bye Bye Bolton Bye Bye :D

This is quite a bad thing (for America anyway). Bolton was the only man who had any spine against the UN. Personally, I think it's become a weak, and useless organization. Bolton held it to that status, I think, and acted accordingly; with a bit of arrogance and "America-Kicks-Your-Ass" attitude. We need more of that these days.

And for those who shall use the Globalism argument, I'll put this out here: screw globalism.

screw globalism.

Globalism says the same about you, and globalism wins.

with a bit of arrogance and "America-Kicks-Your-Ass" attitude. We need more of that these days.

Yeah, that's the attitude you need these days.
:rolleyes:

The UN is diminished by Bolton's departure and is now free to continue its slide into irrelevance and oblivion. Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on whether you think the UN was ever worth trying to salvage to begin with. :rolleyes:

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http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/04/18/johnbolton_narrowweb__200x268.jpg

This is quite a bad thing (for America anyway). Bolton was the only man who had any spine against the UN. Personally, I think it's become a weak, and useless organization. Bolton held it to that status, I think, and acted accordingly; with a bit of arrogance and "America-Kicks-Your-Ass" attitude. We need more of that these days.

And for those who shall use the Globalism argument, I'll put this out here: screw globalism.

More of it? Since when has this country had any other attitude?


The UN is diminished by Bolton's departure and is now free to continue its slide into irrelevance and oblivion. Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on whether you think the UN was ever worth trying to salvage to begin with. :rolleyes:

Unfair! The U.N. isn't our Puppet! Other nations don't do what we tell them every single time! Boo-frikkin'-hoo. Grow up, little boys. Stop throwing a temper tantrum everytime you don't get your way. You're embarrassing the grown ups.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3340/manboobil4.png

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/04/18/johnbolton_narrowweb__200x268.jpg

Wow, 4 threads with the same picture being adequate for all! :D

John Bolton has resigned.

http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_world.php?page_zone=150.7.3&storyid=1239871

Is this a good or a bad thing in people's opinions?

Your question doesn't fit a "yes/no" answer. :rolleyes:

Well...yeah,I know.Just in your general opinion.This is the first poll I've made,mind,I'm only a n00blet :(

Heh, no, s/he meant your poll. ;)

Aha!
Well spotted.I changed the wording a liddle.

It didn't work :(

"Is John Bolton resigning a good thing or a bad thing?"
"Yes, it is a good thing or a bad thing."

You realize of course the poll question is asking whether it's a good or bad thing. The only answer is yes, it's either a good thing or a bad thing.

....Damned crappy wording.
OK.For future reference for everyone.The poll's worded badly,and I meant-
Is the fact that John Bolton has resigned as UN ambassador a good thing or a bad thing?



OMG you had me laughing so hard!!!!!!! That was priceless comedy

Bolton was the quintessential flop. Why? His presence caused moderate factions who normally regularly and reliably vote with the US to give us the finger.

As far as being a reformer of the UN? He did precisely ZIP, nada, nothing to reform the UN, nor was he given any leeway by the very man who selected him to do so.

Typical attitude in this country is no one else matters but us, I'm sorry to disabuse you all of that notion, but without the rest of the world the US is just a bloviating windbag with a fake Texan nitwit at the helm.

Our dear President couldn't find a real foreign policy with a flashlight and map. He certainly has no foreign policy that resembles the pragmatic and conservative foreign policies of previous Republican Presidents, nor does he have a globalist foreign policy that is the usual hallmark of moderately liberal Democratic Presidents. He has spent six years with his head up his anal canal, why should we be surprised that this smelly trend continues?

Good thing. He was ambasodor to the UN and held it in contempt. He wasnt a good man for the job

The job of the US ambassador to the UN is not to respect the UN.

It's to respect the US.

It's that nation that he's supposed to represent.