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Could this end Global Warming?

Wilgrove
04-12-2006, 04:17
Ok, so I was watching "Inside the Volcano" on The History Channel, and they talked about the eruoption of Mount Tambora in 1815. This erruption was so big that it actually cooled the earth, and here in the states it gave us a year without a summer. Now that the earth is heating up again, maybe we need another volcano eruption of this size and magnitude to cool the earth down again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 04:20
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101081/

You never did see how this show ended, did you?
Zavistan
04-12-2006, 04:22
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101081/

You never did see how this show ended, did you?
Best... show... ever.
Wilgrove
04-12-2006, 04:23
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101081/

You never did see how this show ended, did you?

Yea, but the Dinosaurs became extinct because a big ass rock slammed into the earth and caused the entire world to be covered in dust. The Mount Tambora 1815 eruption didn't do that, expect for the people in the near of the volcano.
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 04:23
Best... show... ever.

Well, at least one more person has seen it. Loved it as a kid...
Free Soviets
04-12-2006, 04:24
Now that the earth is heating up again, maybe we need another volcano eruption of this size and magnitude to cool the earth down again?

if its big enough to reverse the warming trend for more than the short term, it will kill us all.
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 04:25
Yea, but the Dinosaurs became extinct because a big ass rock slammed into the earth and caused the entire world to be covered in dust. The Mount Tambora 1815 eruption didn't do that, expect for the people in the near of the volcano.

No, the Dinosaurs became extinct because they killed the rainforests through a complex chain of events and in order to make it rain again so the forest would regrow they set off atomic bombs in volcanoes around the globe to create clouds. Duh!
Wilgrove
04-12-2006, 04:25
if its big enough to reverse the warming trend for more than the short term, it will kill us all.

Of course it's going to be short term. Everything in nature is short term. That's because nature is always moving, always evolving, always changing.
Wilgrove
04-12-2006, 04:26
No, the Dinosaurs became extinct because they killed the rainforests through a complex chain of events and in order to make it rain again so the forest would regrow they set off atomic bombs in volcanoes around the globe to create clouds. Duh!

Bad Fass, Bad! *hits you with ruler* Ron L. Hubbard is not a reliable source!
Dragontide
04-12-2006, 04:26
Nope. The damage from global warming will come from storms,(see that huge typhoon that just hit the Philippines?) droughts rising sea levels and the like over a long period of time. A super volcano would cause temporary ice age type conditions but would not remove the Co2 from the air. It would only make matters worse in the long run.
Lishana
04-12-2006, 04:26
This Ultimate Doom you speak of will surely end global warming.

And then some.
Bodies Without Organs
04-12-2006, 04:27
My personal suggestion: we get one of the continents, free it from the mantle, turn it on its tip and use it as a heat sink.



*Not looking at any continent in particular. Honestly.*
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 04:29
Bad Fass, Bad! *hits you with ruler* Ron L. Hubbard is not a reliable source!

This isn't L. Ron! This was what happened to The Dinosaurs, and people in dinosaur costumes on TV sitcoms never lie.
The Black Forrest
04-12-2006, 04:31
Well, at least one more person has seen it. Loved it as a kid...

*wacks Fass on the head*

Not the mamma!

;)
Liberated New Ireland
04-12-2006, 04:32
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101081/

You never did see how this show ended, did you?

Ah... a piece of my childhood... *sniff*
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 04:33
*wacks Fass on the head*

Not the mamma!

;)

Was it my scent gland? It was my scent gland, wasn't it?
The Nazz
04-12-2006, 04:38
This guy (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12343892/can_dr_evil_save_the_world/1) has a similar idea. Of course, it doesn't address all the other problems we face from increased CO2 in the atmosphere, but it would at least cool the planet and potentially regrow the polar caps.

Of course, if we fuck it up, it could also kill us all, but hey, who wants to retire anyway?
Free Soviets
04-12-2006, 04:39
Of course it's going to be short term. Everything in nature is short term. That's because nature is always moving, always evolving, always changing.

no, i mean on the order of a year or three. bigger than that and you get in to the territory of the one that very nearly wiped us out last time around. and even that's direct cooling effects only lasted a couple years more.
Imperial isa
04-12-2006, 04:43
Well, at least one more person has seen it. Loved it as a kid...

i did see it as a kid and i still know one line from it
not the mother
Dragontide
04-12-2006, 04:50
This guy (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12343892/can_dr_evil_save_the_world/1) has a similar idea. Of course, it doesn't address all the other problems we face from increased CO2 in the atmosphere, but it would at least cool the planet and potentially regrow the polar caps.

Of course, if we fuck it up, it could also kill us all, but hey, who wants to retire anyway?

I read page 1. Sounds like something out of a comic book but at least people are recognizing the problem. If it comes down to letting all that frozen methane in Alaska and Siberia thaw out which would double the worlds Co2 level (our point of no return) then we just might have to do something as drastic as suggested in that link! :eek:
A-pluses
04-12-2006, 04:57
It would be nice if the volcano erupted somewhere in Southeast Asia, seeing as how we're spending too much money on helping people out there anyway because they don't appreciate it. But there's this cool "movie" about Yellowstone that is disconcerting. Yellowstone has a tendency to blow up about every 600,000 years. It erupted around 1.8 million years ago, then 1.2 million years ago, and then around 610,000 years ago. We're 10,000 years overdue with probably the biggest supervolcano on the planet. Park rangers didn't see the "crater" to the volcano until they recieved satellite pictures, because all of Tokyo could fit into it, and there would still be room for more. The best-case scenario would include a couple thousand people dying in the U.S. in the first few days from the humongous ash storm that would sweep across the nation. The entire planet would undergo an Ice Age that would also starve off millions in Third World countries, and considering that the dollar along with Wall Street would be at its knees, there would be hundreds if not thousands of people starving in the U.S. Millions trapped in suffocating ash that when breathed in, creates cement in the lungs. You tell me what's worse. A few more inches in sea level, or the biggest cataclysmic event in human history. Out of most supervolcanoes on the planet, Yellowstone is probably in the top 5 on most probable to erupt at any time. We're 10,000 years overdue, so hoping that a supervolcano will erupt and end Global Warming is not the smartest thing to do.
Kyronea
04-12-2006, 05:39
Ah... a piece of my childhood... *sniff*

So I see I wasn't the only one to watch "Dinosaurs" as a kid.

A-pluses: Hoping anything isn't a smart thing to do because hope doesn't do a damned thing. You want to fix something, go actually do something to fix it, not sit around and "hope" for it to be fixed on its own.

My personal suggestion: we get one of the continents, free it from the mantle, turn it on its tip and use it as a heat sink.



*Not looking at any continent in particular. Honestly.*
Best. Idea. Ever. You win.
Wilgrove
04-12-2006, 06:06
It would be nice if the volcano erupted somewhere in Southeast Asia, seeing as how we're spending too much money on helping people out there anyway because they don't appreciate it. But there's this cool "movie" about Yellowstone that is disconcerting. Yellowstone has a tendency to blow up about every 600,000 years. It erupted around 1.8 million years ago, then 1.2 million years ago, and then around 610,000 years ago. We're 10,000 years overdue with probably the biggest supervolcano on the planet. Park rangers didn't see the "crater" to the volcano until they recieved satellite pictures, because all of Tokyo could fit into it, and there would still be room for more. The best-case scenario would include a couple thousand people dying in the U.S. in the first few days from the humongous ash storm that would sweep across the nation. The entire planet would undergo an Ice Age that would also starve off millions in Third World countries, and considering that the dollar along with Wall Street would be at its knees, there would be hundreds if not thousands of people starving in the U.S. Millions trapped in suffocating ash that when breathed in, creates cement in the lungs. You tell me what's worse. A few more inches in sea level, or the biggest cataclysmic event in human history. Out of most supervolcanoes on the planet, Yellowstone is probably in the top 5 on most probable to erupt at any time. We're 10,000 years overdue, so hoping that a supervolcano will erupt and end Global Warming is not the smartest thing to do.

Well I never did say that I wanted a Super Volcano to do the job.