NationStates Jolt Archive


Chechnya

Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 02:52
Do you support Chechen independence from Russia? Why or why not?

Explain.
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 02:54
Pfft, m'importe...
Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 02:55
Pfft, m'importe...

Eh? :confused:
Soviestan
04-12-2006, 02:55
Yes I do. It is wrong what the Russian government has done to them and they deserve self-determination.
Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 02:55
Yes I do. It is wrong what the Russian government has done to them and they deserve self-detrimination.

I agree 100%.
Fassigen
04-12-2006, 02:56
Eh? :confused:

French for "pfft, I don't care..."
Hamilay
04-12-2006, 02:57
they deserve self-detrimination
They should do things that are detrimental to themselves? :p
I'm not so sure. The Chechnyans should probably stop with, like, all the terrorism and stuff. On the other hand, it's not like Russia needs any more land... :p
Vetalia
04-12-2006, 02:58
Let them go. God only knows they're a worthless wasteland anyways.
Losing It Big TIme
04-12-2006, 03:01
I agree 100%.

Ditto
Soviestan
04-12-2006, 03:01
They should do things that are detrimental to themselves? :p
I'm not so sure. The Chechnyans should probably stop with, like, all the terrorism and stuff. On the other hand, it's not like Russia needs any more land... :p

their so called terrorism is a result of Russian aggression.
Streckburg
04-12-2006, 03:02
I think that if they want to govern themselves they have every right to do so. The Russians heavy handed approach has created the violence they are now faced with.
Soheran
04-12-2006, 03:02
I believe in self-determination. Let them go.
Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 03:02
their so called terrorism is a result of Russian aggression.

While their actions are appalling and not at all justifiable, I do agree. And Russia should just give them their damn independence already.
Hamilay
04-12-2006, 03:03
their so called terrorism is a result of Russian aggression.
Terrorism is still terrorism, like the Moscow theatre siege. Or how about the Beslan school thing? Now that was terrorism. No Russian aggression justifies the killing of hundreds of children.
Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 03:04
Terrorism is still terrorism, like the Moscow theatre siege. Or how about the Beslan school thing? Now that was terrorism. No Russian aggression justifies the killing of hundreds of children.

Agreed.
Buristan
04-12-2006, 03:07
The Chechens are terrorists
Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 03:08
The Chechens are terrorists

Not all of them. And they do deserve independence.
Hamilay
04-12-2006, 03:08
Both the Chechnyans and the Russians are jerks. The Chechnyans slightly more so, IMO. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, Russia should let them go. It's really not going to make a huge difference, and is bad for Russia's image and military.
New Xero Seven
04-12-2006, 03:10
I have no problem with it.
Laerod
04-12-2006, 03:16
Do you support Chechen independence from Russia? Why or why not?

Explain.There are only villains in that conflict, it seems, and the people that get in the way.
Soviestan
04-12-2006, 03:17
Terrorism is still terrorism, like the Moscow theatre siege. Or how about the Beslan school thing? Now that was terrorism. No Russian aggression justifies the killing of hundreds of children.

I would agree with that. I don't think they were right in what they did there. I was more refering to the acts of resistance by the Chechens in Chechnya against the Russians that the Russians claim is terrorism to justify crackdowns and slaughters against Chechens.
Liberated New Ireland
04-12-2006, 03:18
Not all of them. And they do deserve independence.

No! ALL OF THEM ARE TERRORISTS!!! *bangs fist on table*
Congo--Kinshasa
04-12-2006, 03:20
I would agree with that. I don't think they were right in what they did there. I was more refering to the acts of resistance by the Chechens in Chechnya against the Russians that the Russians claim is terrorism to justify crackdowns and slaughters against Chechens.

The ones who are resisting are definitely not terrorists, unless they target civilians.
Laerod
04-12-2006, 03:21
Both the Chechnyans and the Russians are jerks. The Chechnyans slightly more so, IMO. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, Russia should let them go. It's really not going to make a huge difference, and is bad for Russia's image and military.Problem: The Chechnyans have shown that they don't respect Russia's borders, and when Yeltsin gave them some autonomy, seen by many as caving in to their demands, they continued the fight and staged incursions into the neighboring Russian provinces.
Buristan
04-12-2006, 03:27
Not all of them. And they do deserve independence.

Yes, but most of the vocal proponents of independence are, and I bet you a million dollars that there is a substancial number of Chechens who want to stay as part of Russia
Buristan
04-12-2006, 03:30
I was more refering to the acts of resistance by the Chechens in Chechnya against the Russians that the Russians claim is terrorism to justify crackdowns and slaughters against Chechens.

Terrorism is terrorism, where ever it is commited
Liberated New Ireland
04-12-2006, 03:35
Terrorism is terrorism, where ever it is commited

Nuh-uh, it terrorism isn't in Opposite World!
Sel Appa
04-12-2006, 03:37
If Chechnya goes, Russia will become a 1/4 of what it currently is. If anything, the Soviet Union should be restored.
New Xero Seven
04-12-2006, 03:39
If Chechnya goes, Russia will become a 1/4 of what it currently is.

Um, Russia's friggen huge...
Chechnya is rather tiny.
:confused:
Buristan
04-12-2006, 03:40
Nuh-uh, it terrorism isn't in Opposite World!

? Huh :confused:
Saint-Newly
04-12-2006, 03:44
Nuh-uh, it terrorism isn't in Opposite World!

It am not Bizarro speak.

But yeah, I support an independent Chechnya. Who wouldn't? The Russians don't need it, and they'd stop being murdered by terrorists/freedom fighters.