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And it's official folks. The No. 1 ranked OSU will be playing No.2 UF in the National Championship. For those of you that don't know, The recent win of the Florida Gators over Arkansas in the SEC championship coupled with the loss of USC to UCLA has put the Gators on the path to face off against the Buckeyes.

Poll to come. For now, post comments.

Florida jumps Michigan, will get shot at OSU

FOXSports.com
Posted: 2 minutes ago

Sorry, Gator haters. It's going to be Florida-Ohio State for the national championship.

In a result that won't end the controversy also known as the Bowl Championship Series any time soon, Florida's win over Arkansas in the SEC title game — coupled with USC's stunning loss to UCLA — was apparently enough to leapfrog the Gators to No. 2 in the final BCS standings.

That means Florida, and not Michigan, will be in Glendale, Ariz. on Jan. 8. That news is sure to disappoint legions of Wolverine fans, who had hoped that the Trojans' loss Saturday would set the stage for a rematch with the Buckeyes.

But Michigan will not get a chance to avenge its 42-39 loss in Columbus, and will settle instead for a Jan. 1 date in the Rose Bowl with USC, which blew its own shot at the title on Saturday.

Ultimately, it was the human component of the BCS formula that determined that Florida (12-1) would make for a more worthy opponent for undefeated and undisputed No. 1 Ohio State. The computers awarded the Gators and Wolverines identical scores of .940. But Florida passed Michigan to finish No. 2 in both the Harris and coaches polls, providing the narrow .011 margin in the standings.

Perhaps voters were more impressed with Florida's ability to survive the gauntlet also known as the SEC with just the lone loss at Auburn, which finished ninth in the final BCS standings. Based on winning percentage alone, the Gators easily played the toughest schedule in the country; in comparison, the Wolverines were hanging their hats largely on wins over Notre Dame and Wisconsin and the close loss to Ohio State.

Maybe voters simply figured the Wolverines had already had their shot at Ohio State — albeit on the road, as opposed to the neutral ground that awaits the Gators — and simply wanted to see a matchup we hadn't already seen. Even if Ohio State's three-point win over Michigan was one of the most intriguing — if not the most intriguing — game of the college football season.

Or it could have been as simple as this: If you can't win your conference — as Michigan failed to do — why do you deserve a chance to win it all?

Whatever the rationale, the facts remain: Florida will be the last team to attempt to deny Ohio State a perfect season, Michigan won't get a second chance to make a good impression and the debate over why is likely to continue for a good, long time.

link here. (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6234416?FSO1&ATT=HCP&GT1=8901)

*laughs at the college football fan*

GO GATORS!!!

S.E.C. RULES!!!

signed
Bama fan!

I have no idea what this thread is about. I wager some sport of unknown identity...

/can't be arsed to read OP beyond first paragraph

Which is how it should be. *nods*

I have no idea what this thread is about. I wager some sport of unknown identity...

/can't be arsed to read OP beyond first paragraph

It's about college/uni level American football. The single most idiotic sport on the planet. And this is coming from someone who likes regular NFL football.

Go Gators! Granted they aren't my alma mater( that would but another uni in the state) but as representatives of the sunshine state, I shall wish them all the best.

Michigan is a much better and higher caliber team than Florida is. Look for an Ohio State blow out.

Michigan is a much better and higher caliber team than Florida is. Look for an Ohio State blow out.

Are you kidding??? Half the teams in the S.E.C. could beat Ohio State. Florida will tear them a new one! ;)

Are you kidding??? Half the teams in the S.E.C could beat Ohio State. Florida will tear them a new one! ;)

Yea right. The only team to offer competition to OSU is Michigan. Florida is a good team but Ohio State is better and more high power.

Are you kidding??? Half the teams in the S.E.C. could beat Ohio State. Florida will tear them a new one! ;)
I wouldn't go that far--if the Gators play OSU the way they played Arkansas, they'll get their asses handed to them. But I still think Florida earned their way there by winning the SEC.

Yea right. The only team to offer competition to OSU is Michigan.

Exact-a-mundo! Their schedule was garbage! They are un-beaten because they didn't play any SEC teams this year. DAMMIT this game needs a playoff system!

It's about college/uni level American football. The single most idiotic sport on the planet. And this is coming from someone who likes regular NFL football.

That's the "football" they play with their hands? Right...

I wouldn't go that far--if the Gators play OSU the way they played Arkansas, they'll get their asses handed to them. But I still think Florida earned their way there by winning the SEC.

Thats because the Hogs would also run OSU off the field! ;)

Exact-a-mundo! Their schedule was garbage! They are un-beaten because they didn't play any SEC teams this year. DAMMIT this game needs a playoff system!

The bolded statement I can agree with. As to the rest, you never seen OSU play have you?

I wouldn't go that far--if the Gators play OSU the way they played Arkansas, they'll get their asses handed to them.

Correct Nazz. Florida better show up or this one is going to be a blow out.

The bolded statement I can agree with. As to the rest, you never seen OSU play have you?

I've seen them play. I just havn't seen them challenged by any team with the caliber of Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee or Georgia!

You will see. The SEC will win ALL of their bowl games this year! Oh it's true!!! It's damm true!!! ;)

I've seen them play. I just havn't seen them challenged by any team with the caliber of Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee or Georgia!

You will see. The SEC will win ALL of their bowl games this year! Oh it's true!!! It's damm true!!! ;)

Sarcasm is not your forte when it comes to college football.

Sarcasm is not your forte when it comes to college football.

Heck they even have Bama in a bowl game this year, against Oklohama St. Bama was 6-6. :D The powers that be sure know the score when it comes to SEC Football!

Heck they even have Bama in a bowl game this year, against Oklohama St. Bama was 6-6. :D The powers that be sure know the score when it comes to SEC Football!

Most any team that has 6 wins pretty much gets a Bowl game.

The SEC is the bomb, the gators' quick defence will take down Troy Smith and the Buck Eyes

Roll Tide

I think Florida and Michigan are both good teams, Michigan has already given Ohio State a run for their money earlier this year, but Florida won the toughest conference in college football with one loss, that's one hell of an accomplishment. While I think Michigan is slightly better and has a better chance against Ohio State (in an ESPN poll 70% of the voters from Ohio voted in favor of playing Florida, that tells me they fear Michigan more than Florida.) they already had their chance and lost, although in a very close game, to Ohio State. Either way I think Ohio State is going to win, they have too many weapons on offense, most NFL defenses wouldn't be able to shut down Ohio State's offense this year, and an offense that scored 30+ points nine times in the same season is clearly not lacking in consistency. Florida better bring their A game just to keep the scores close.

Please note that I picked Ohio State over Miamia, LSU over Oklahoma and Texas over USC when nobody, save those three teams most diehard fans, picked Ohio State, LSU and Texas to win, I have a pretty good track record for these things. *Knock on wood*

Also, did this poll really ask if UCLA should be given a chance to play Ohio State?

???? Boise State was undeated!!!!!! Where's the love!?!?!


kidding, kidding. The SEC definatly deserves a shot at the championship, it was "a pretty good decision by the BCS".

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"a pretty good decision by the BCS"
Did I just say that? I think I need some sleep....

Michigan is a much better and higher caliber team than Florida is. Look for an Ohio State blow out.

Very much so. However, Michigan had their shot and lost. In all reality they should have just given OSU the trophy after the Michigan-OSU game. I really didn't want a Michigan-OSU rematch because it just wouldn't seem right to have The Game twice in one year.

As was said, Florida is a good team this year, but Ohio State (and Michigan) are in a league of their own.

Very much so. However, Michigan had their shot and lost. In all reality they should have just given OSU the trophy after the Michigan-OSU game. I really didn't want a Michigan-OSU rematch because it just wouldn't seem right to have The Game twice in one year.

As was said, Florida is a good team this year, but Ohio State (and Michigan) are in a league of their own.

I'm no particular fan of USC, but I'll be rooting for them. ;)

As was said, Florida is a good team this year, but Ohio State (and Michigan) are in a league of their own.

Which is far below SEC levels!

Also, did this poll really ask if UCLA should be given a chance to play Ohio State?

Yes, a lame cousin of mine pointed me to the Fox Sports Blogs that showed lots of support for UCLA (only God knows why, and I wanted to inject two doses of humor.)

Yes, a lame cousin of mine pointed me to the Fox Sports Blogs that showed lots of support for UCLA (only God knows why, and I wanted to inject two doses of humor.)

Shoulda had boise state instead.:)

Which is far below SEC levels!

I suppose we'll find out, won't we?

Exact-a-mundo! Their schedule was garbage! They are un-beaten because they didn't play any SEC teams this year. DAMMIT this game needs a playoff system!

We played two number two ranked teams, and beat them both. We also thumped Penn State and Iowa, both of which were good teams. You cannot tell me that OSU didn't play any challenging teams.

The SEC is the bomb, the gators' quick defence will take down Troy Smith and the Buck Eyes

Roll Tide

You do realize that Michigan had what is probably the best defense in the US, and OSU put up over five hundred yards of total offence against them, correct?

We've Done it all Year, we'll do it AGAIN!!...

This is our year!!

GO OSU!!!!
Troy Smith = GOD of the footbal field

I suppose we'll find out, won't we?

9 SEC teams going to a bowl this year. (only 12 teams in the conference) The SEC teams will win them all. (you heard it hear first folks and I will be back in early January to spike the ball) :p

You do realize that Michigan had what is probably the best defense in the US, and OSU put up over five hundred yards of total offence against them, correct?

Michigan allowed Ball State to score 26 points on them and gave up an average of 14 1/2 points per game! You call that a defense???

Michigan allowed ... an average of 14 1/2 points per game! You call that a defense???

It's hard to detect over the internet, so I'm going to ask for the benefit of everyone, but was that sarcasm I assume it was.

It's hard to detect over the internet, so I'm going to ask for the benefit of everyone, but was that sarcasm I assume it was.

Umm. It's a stat. Trying to make the point that OSU would have beaten the Woffies again and Florida will run OSU off the field.

Florida doesn't deserve to be in the BCS Championship game. They don't even deserve to be on the same field as OSU. Florida skated by this year many, many times against questionable teams (SEC or otherwise.)

And do I even need to mention the South Carolina game? Save for a ridiculous call against SC, Florida wouldn't even be playing in the Tidy Bowl this year, much less the BCS Championship.

And spare me the "strength of schedule / toughest conference in 1-A football" nonsense. Lest we forget, the SEC includes the likes of:

Vanderbuilt (sure we suck, but at least we're shitter-rich)
Kentucky (uh. Right)
Georgia (my kingdom for a win. No really)
Ole Miss (nice costumes)
Tennessee (are we gonna win this year, coach?)

Etc, etc, etc.. What was the winning percentages of these teams this year again?

Michigan's only loss came to the No. 1 ranked team----OSU----and they went No. 1 all season long. Michigan only lost that game by three points at that.

Michigan was royaly gang-raped by the BCS committee, but that's a good thing. It proves that the BCS series is dead, and its burial long overdue.

Straight playoff system. No "plus one" crap, and no excuses about 16 team chaos. Stop making excuses and let the best team in college ball be National Champs.

Period.


:upyours: to the BCS!

And do I even need to mention the South Carolina game?

Vanderbuilt (sure we suck, but at least we're shitter-rich)
Kentucky (uh. Right)
Georgia (my kingdom for a win. No really)
Ole Miss (nice costumes)
Tennessee (are we gonna win this year, coach?)



2/3 of those teams you've mentioned are going to a bowl.

The 9 SEC teams going to a bowl this year are" Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, LSU, South Carolina and Tennessee! SEC rules!!!

Michigan was fucking robbed.

Yes, Florida had a tough schedule but they moved ahead of UM on virute of a win against Arkansas--who lost to USC. USC now has two losses on the season making that loss particularly damaging to both USC and Florida. Michigan also had a tough schedule; and UM and OSU remain the only two teams in the top ten to notch victories against otherwise undefeated teams: Michigan handed Wisconsin its only loss and OSU obviously beat Michigan by three points.

Folks: if you go almost unbeaten the entire season, and the only loss you take is on the road against the #1 team in the nation by three points you deserve a shot at the title. Basically what the BCS is saying is that an OSU/UM matchup for the title is impossible since it couldn't possibly have come any closer to happening than it did this year. No one could have possibly had a better season than the Wolverines [things being as they are now] and they're clearly the second best team in the nation. Florida will be badly embarrased in Arizona: Michigan is the only team that might beat Ohio State if they play again. Any other game will be a rout.

Folks: if you go almost unbeaten the entire season, and the only loss you take is on the road against the #1 team in the nation by three points you deserve a shot at the title. Basically what the BCS is saying is that an OSU/UM matchup for the title is impossible since it couldn't possibly have come any closer to happening than it did this year. No one could have possibly had a better season than the Wolverines [things being as they are now] and they're clearly the second best team in the nation. Florida will be badly embarrased in Arizona: Michigan is the only team that might beat Ohio State if they play again. Any other game will be a rout.

From what I heard from the announcers on FOX they were saying perhaps having OSU play Michigan again would somehow be unfair.

Odd really, I'd love to have the Buckeyes have another chance for a more decisive win. "Fairness" should have nothing to do with it. But somehow I don't think anyone at OSU will complain. :)

Michigan was fucking robbed.

Yes, Florida had a tough schedule but they moved ahead of UM on virute of a win against Arkansas--who lost to USC. USC now has two losses on the season making that loss particularly damaging to both USC and Florida. Michigan also had a tough schedule; and UM and OSU remain the only two teams in the top ten to notch victories against otherwise undefeated teams: Michigan handed Wisconsin its only loss and OSU obviously beat Michigan by three points.

Folks: if you go almost unbeaten the entire season, and the only loss you take is on the road against the #1 team in the nation by three points you deserve a shot at the title. Basically what the BCS is saying is that an OSU/UM matchup for the title is impossible since it couldn't possibly have come any closer to happening than it did this year. No one could have possibly had a better season than the Wolverines [things being as they are now] and they're clearly the second best team in the nation. Florida will be badly embarrased in Arizona: Michigan is the only team that might beat Ohio State if they play again. Any other game will be a rout.
Man, it's because of whiners like you that I'll be rooting for USC against Michigan. I hope the Trojans beat the Woverines by fifty. OSU versus UF I could care less, as long as Michigan gets bitch-slapped.

Man, it's because of whiners like you that I'll be rooting for USC against Michigan. I hope the Trojans beat the Woverines by fifty. OSU versus UF I could care less, as long as Michigan gets bitch-slapped.

If USC played the way they did against UCLA then Michigan will defeat USC.

If USC played the way they did against UCLA then Michigan will defeat USC.

And if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass when it hopped. USC played like shit against UCLA--that's why they're not in the game against OSU and Michigan whiners even have a half of a case.

If USC played the way they did against UCLA then Michigan will defeat USC.

That UCLA/USC game was quite bad. :D

That UCLA/USC game was quite bad. :D

I enjoyed the game entirely and it didn't matter to me who won. I love watching good games and that is precisely what I got.

Man, it's because of whiners like you that I'll be rooting for USC against Michigan. I hope the Trojans beat the Woverines by fifty. OSU versus UF I could care less, as long as Michigan gets bitch-slapped.

CHOOSE 1:

a) Tell poster why he's wrong

or

b) Call him a whiner

I can see which you obviously prefer. You can't seriously expect Michigan fans--or any other fans--to not be pissed when something like this happens to us. No one else in the country came closer to a perfect season aside obviously from Ohio State. This makes Michigan clearly the #2 team in the nation, and that is all that should matter. USC lost twice to unranked opponents this year; they do well in high-stakes games it seems but for what its worth USC's downfall should have boosted Michigan's standings while damaging Florida's: instead, the opposite occured.

There is no rational motive for denying Michigan the shot they so clearly deserve. The BCS people didn't want to see a regional national title since it won't generate much nationwide buzz. They didn't want to see two conference opponents play for the title. If you want to change it to a tournament of whatever and "hard code" this possibility from happening, fine--but don't try to use the BCS to justify cheating a better team in the meantime, since the BCS doesn't explicitly state conference opponents can't vie for the title. It's not the Big Ten's fault we kick so much ass.

Also, I'd like to point out that if they impliment a tournament it will mark the second time in ten years that the college national championship system were to be overhauled completely as a result of Michigan being cheated out of [or having to split] the national title. Hmm.

--snip--
You're a whiner. Come to grips with it. It'll help you feel better.

Every college football fan is a whiner. It's as large a part of the game as tailgating and body paint and puking in the parking lot. So screech all you want about how Michigan got jobbed if it helps you sleep through the night, and then pray that they beat USC, and that OSU beats Florida, because if both don't happen, you'll look like an idiot (which, coincidentally, is another huge part of the tradition of college football).

Umm. It's a stat. Trying to make the point that OSU would have beaten the Woffies again and Florida will run OSU off the field.

14 and a half points allowed per game is very good for any team in any conference. Some other teams for comparison for you: Ohio State - 10.4 ppg, Florida - 13.5 ppg, USC - 14.9 ppg, LSU - 12.5, Michigan - 14.3, Wisconsin - 11.9 ppg, Louisiville - 16.6 ppg, Oklahoma - 15.3 ppg, Boise State - 15.6 ppg, Auburn - 13.9 ppg. Michigan's defense is right up there with the rest of the top ten, Florida's allowed only .8 fewer ppg, if Ohio State would beaten Michigan they would also beat Florida because the two defenses are almost identical statistically.

According to the BCS, Florida's strength of schedule was first in the nation. (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119) Second was Michigan. Ohio State was 37, but they beat Michigan head to head, so could hardly be kept out of the game themselves. Where does that leave Michigan? Third, by the closest thing we have to a head to head matchup between them and Florida. Sucks to be them (and their fans, apparently).

I give a flying fuck about organized sport of any kind.

You're a whiner. Come to grips with it. It'll help you feel better.
You're lucky this isn't true. Whiners have a tendancy to likewise complain about small things like the eye-rollingly minor tendancy for certain people to call them "whiners" to their face. I wouldn't be able to do anything about this myself anyway, but other players might whine to the mods if you say things like this to them too often.

Without meaning to sound threatening, I would like to point out that there's no way I can be expected to beleive that the opening three words were meant to do anything other than piss me off. You might want to think about not doing shit like that; especially not when one of us is actually trying to present a case here. You can't just walk into a thread and call its patrons "whiners:"

Every college football fan is a whiner...

And likewise you have no such license to deploy the same contempt on me. I'm just expressing my opinion. Get with the program, please.

Sucks to be them (and their fans, apparently).

Not all Michigan fans are up in arms about this. We had our chance at OSU and didn't make it. Such is life.

Not all Michigan fans are up in arms about this. We had our chance at OSU and didn't make it. Such is life.

Quite. As an OSU student, the way I figured it is that another team deserved a shot at OSU, and Michigan had already got their chance.

Needless to say, that game was AmaaaaAAAAAAaaaaazing. Especially given that I was seven rows from the field.

You're lucky this isn't true. Whiners have a tendancy to likewise complain about small things like the eye-rollingly minor tendancy for certain people to call them "whiners" to their face. I wouldn't be able to do anything about this myself anyway, but other players might whine to the mods if you say things like this to them too often.

Without meaning to sound threatening, I would like to point out that there's no way I can be expected to beleive that the opening three words were meant to do anything other than piss me off. You might want to think about not doing shit like that; especially not when one of us is actually trying to present a case here. You can't just walk into a thread and call its patrons "whiners:"



Frankly, Melkor, I don't believe you when you say you don't mean to sound threatening here. You have the power to make me disappear, no question, and to even make certain, up to a point, that I never post here again. So when you make statements like the one above, how else should I take it, other than as a threat? You don't want me to call you a whiner, fine. You're not a whiner. But don't act like you're not trying to intimidate me.

P.S. Two posts above this, I posted an argument as to why Michigan doesn't deserve to be in the game, and you ignored it. I've also posted other arguments against it in other threads on the same subject, so please, you're not alone in presenting an argument.

How did UCLA make it into the poll? They're 7-5!

But anyway, both teams have really strong cases for being the better team and there really is no way to know. I think the question it came down to was whether the fact that Michigan's only loss is to Ohio State is a better indicator than the fact that Florida, with the same record (or actually slightly better given they played one more game), is the SEC champion (a very good conference this year).

Or to put it another way, it came down to whether or not who you lost to outweighs who you beat. My point is that Michigan wasn't "robbed" any more than Florida would have been "robbed" if Michigan was picked. They're both very good teams.

Frankly, Melkor, I don't believe you when you say you don't mean to sound threatening here. You have the power to make me disappear, no question, and to even make certain, up to a point, that I never post here again.
Not as a result of this, I don't. I can't decide what happens to you as a result of something that you say or do to me. I'd have to report it independently and since it's not worth wasting anyone's time over I'm not.

So when you make statements like the one above, how else should I take it, other than as a threat? You don't want me to call you a whiner, fine. You're not a whiner.
Threatening someone is when you make a groundless promise of violence. Warning someone is when you inform them of a breach in protocol; minor or major. I'm not saying "I'm going to delete you" because I can't--and under the circumstances I wasn't inclined to make a big deal out of it (until we turned it into this). I can't censure, ban, or otherwise restrictyour account unilaterally if I'm directly involved. I don't feel like wasting the other mods' time with this but other players easily could so I'm cautioning you unofficially to not do that in the future.

But don't act like you're not trying to intimidate me.
Fine. I'm not.

P.S. Two posts above this, I posted an argument as to why Michigan doesn't deserve to be in the game, and you ignored it. I've also posted other arguments against it in other threads on the same subject, so please, you're not alone in presenting an argument.
I've not read the other threads so spare me that much at least; and I was responding to your first post since I usually address them in chronological order. Perhaps the phrasing you chose spurred me to a lengthy, focused reaction much like this one.

And it's official folks. The No. 1 ranked OSU will be playing No.2 UF in the National Championship. For those of you that don't know, The recent win of the Florida Gators over Arkansas in the SEC championship coupled with the loss of USC to UCLA has put the Gators on the path to face off against the Buckeyes.

Poll to come. For now, post comments.



link here. (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6234416?FSO1&ATT=HCP&GT1=8901)
The little bit I heard on the radio made it sound like the coach's votes swayed it for the Gators. And Jim Tressel abstained because he didn't want to affect the outcome. I'd much rather see a couple conference champs going at it for the national title, so this is better than a rematch with UofM.

Quite. As an OSU student, the way I figured it is that another team deserved a shot at OSU, and Michigan had already got their chance.

Needless to say, that game was AmaaaaAAAAAAaaaaazing. Especially given that I was seven rows from the field.

Ya didn't get the $1600 for your tickets, huh?

Chomp! Chomp! Grats to the Gators! SEC Rulz!!!

So what happened to the Big Ten? Michigan stomped by USC, and OSU humiliated by the Gators. Guess that OSU-Michigan game really meant something. ;)

So what happened to the Big Ten? Michigan stomped by USC, and OSU humiliated by the Gators. Guess that OSU-Michigan game really meant something. ;)

Clear proof there is no God.

Big bad Ohio state....This game made me giggle a bit, which, considering how the Jets played Sunday, is quite impressive. Congrats to Gainesville and Gator Nation for a great year for their athletics.

As a Gators fan myself, this victory was even sweeter than in 1996. Nobody gave Florida a chance and instead we won by 27. That says a lot.

Now, objectively, I think there were a couple of factors at stake:

No 1: the speed of the Florida Gators, especially on the defensive line. The Ohio State Buckeyes just couldn't deal with how quick they were and as a result, Troy Smith was frustrated time and again.

No. 2: Chris Leak. He was smart and effective, as opposed to Smith who seemed to refuse to get out of the "big play mode". Case in point: Leak was sacked once. Smith, five times. Smith is great, but he needs to learn to get rid of the football when pressure is coming. Those sacks really cost him.

No. 3: Hunger. It's a cliche, but the Gators seemed to want it more. I think what happened is that Ohio State had been hearing for a good month that they would walk all over the Gators and while they can keep telling themselves that they won't underestimate the Gators, they still let all that hype get to their head. As did the USC Trojans last year against the Texas Longhorns. The Gators could come from nowhere knowing that, really, they had nothing to lose- they were expected to get creamed, so if they did, it's not like no one expected it and thus they could play a little bit looser. If Ohio State lost, everyone would have been shocked- and all that pressure came to a head.

Of course, I still think we need a playoff system. The Boise State Broncos should be given a shot at Florida now, don't you think?

snippage

I think Florida's speed was a bigger deal in the secondary, where no one was getting open for Ohio State. And Ohio State did not look prepared at all, while Florida was better than it was in any regular season game that I saw. Great job of coaching, great preperation by the Gators. They abused the matchups of the slot recievers against the linbackers, absolutely picking apart the interior of the zone D. Amazing job keeping the D-line of Ohio state off-balance using quick plays to the outside, great use of that freshman Teague (sp?). Leak was very impressive, and very smart with the ball. And playoffs would've been great....

I think Florida's speed was a bigger deal in the secondary, where no one was getting open for Ohio State. And Ohio State did not look prepared at all, while Florida was better than it was in any regular season game that I saw. Great job of coaching, great preperation by the Gators. They abused the matchups of the slot recievers against the linbackers, absolutely picking apart the interior of the zone D. Amazing job keeping the D-line of Ohio state off-balance using quick plays to the outside, great use of that freshman Teague (sp?). Leak was very impressive, and very smart with the ball. And playoffs would've been great....

Tim Tebow. Once he matures he really will be something I think- just like Leak is now (I think he may have a shot at the NFL- he's that smart, and that's half the battle).

You're right, it is the secondary- I mislabelled that. Still, they were impressive- Smith is a fast player and being able to catch him time and again says something. I'll agree- the Gators were better prepared: Urban Meyer had scheduled his practices as if there were "games" the weekends leading up to the BCS Title Game (I think he may have also ran "games" himself but I'm not sure about that detail). I really think, though, what was the difference is still Ohio State's mentality- they let all the pressure get to them and they let it slip away in a big way.

What did you think was the play of the game? FOX picked Earl Everett's helmet-less sack, but I think it was Jarvis Moss' forced fumble on Smith that really was the difference. At that time, Ohio State had the opportunity to march up the field at 27-14 and make a game of it. The fumble set up Tebow's throw to Andre Caldwell that essentially iced the game at 34-14 at the half.

EDIT- Since we're in agreement over the playoff, who would win? Boise State or Florida? It's a hard pick- they're both good- but I just may give the nod to Boise State and all that trickery. I don't think Meyer can counter all that.

Florida!
GATORS RULE!
EDIT:
I am actually a Michigan fan and if i cared about College American Football i'd be outraged.

WOLVERINES!

Tim Tebow. Once he matures he really will be something I think- just like Leak is now (I think he may have a shot at the NFL- he's that smart, and that's half the battle).

You're right, it is the secondary- I mislabelled that. Still, they were impressive- Smith is a fast player and being able to catch him time and again says something. I'll agree- the Gators were better prepared: Urban Meyer had scheduled his practices as if there were "games" the weekends leading up to the BCS Title Game (I think he may have also ran "games" himself but I'm not sure about that detail). I really think, though, what was the difference is still Ohio State's mentality- they let all the pressure get to them and they let it slip away in a big way.

What did you think was the play of the game? FOX picked Earl Everett's helmet-less sack, but I think it was Jarvis Moss' forced fumble on Smith that really was the difference. At that time, Ohio State had the opportunity to march up the field at 27-14 and make a game of it. The fumble set up Tebow's throw to Andre Caldwell that essentially iced the game at 34-14 at the half.

EDIT- Since we're in agreement over the playoff, who would win? Boise State or Florida? It's a hard pick- they're both good- but I just may give the nod to Boise State and all that trickery. I don't think Meyer can counter all that.

Tebow..I really should remember that...
And the play of the game was the sack/strip for sure, especially that close to the endzone. The no-helmet sack was cool-looking, but the turnover that leads to a touchdown>than a sack. Second place would be stopping Ohio State on Fourth and short. The biggest sequence of plays would be Florida's opening drive which set the pace for the rest of the half, and in effect the game, and also showed that they weren't intimidated and could rebound from the big kickoff return.

I don't think that Boise St. could beat Ohio St, Michigan, Florida or USC. The trick plays barely won them their bowl game, and a faster, more patient defense could have contained them. On the other hand, in any given game... Boise St. was a great team to root for, and they deserve a shot at the title game, but I don't think that they could make it past the second round of an 8-team tournament.

Tebow..I really should remember that...
And the play of the game was the sack/strip for sure, especially that close to the endzone. The no-helmet sack was cool-looking, but the turnover that leads to a touchdown>than a sack. Second place would be stopping Ohio State on Fourth and short. The biggest sequence of plays would be Florida's opening drive which set the pace for the rest of the half, and in effect the game, and also showed that they weren't intimidated and could rebound from the big kickoff return.

Yes you should- Tebow will probably be a top-flight quarterback in the coming years, since he seems to be just as poised as Leak is; and he's a runner too. That'll make for a dangerous player.

I remember FOX stated that the "4th-and-short" play was "desperation" on the part of Jim Tressel, done more out of frustration than anything else. I thought it was a smart play- this is the Title Game, so desperation is in order and- unless I have the timing wrong- Ohio State had previously marched up the field for a touchdown. Maybe the play called was the wrong one (although I think the runner came precariously close), but I don't believe Tressel was as desperate as FOX made him out to be there.

I don't think that Boise St. could beat Ohio St, Michigan, Florida or USC. The trick plays barely won them their bowl game, and a faster, more patient defense could have contained them. On the other hand, in any given game... Boise St. was a great team to root for, and they deserve a shot at the title game, but I don't think that they could make it past the second round of an 8-team tournament.

They beat Okhlahoma, who was supposed to cream them, so they may have a decent shot. You're right, there's only so far that trickery can go; but they just may be well-coached enough to be able to pull off an improbable run. They didn't go 13-0 by accident.

I think it was the 42 day lay off that killed Michigan and the 50 days of "rest" that got Ohio State, I said Ohio State would be hardpressed to keep up with Florida in the first half but that the second half would be Ohio State's, I wasn't exactly right, but I was close, only four points were scored in the second half. The NCAA needs to mandate that A.) The title game is played no later than January 4th regardless of what the NFL's schedule is like, fuck the NFL, it's a bunch of overpaid, babied athletes who are constantly bitching about how "little" they make. Once against T.O. went in and destroyed a playoff calibre team (It's not easy to have more drops than Minnesota's Troy Williamson but T.O. managed and then some). B.) All football teams need to end their regular season before finals week, as the Big Ten does, these are colleges, the focus should be on academics, not athletics. Football games are VERY distracting, I know, I'm going to school right now, our school in the midst of a transition to D-IAA and our enrollment is only about 11,000 students but the whole town shuts down for football games, the campus is a ghost town, it's an all day event.

That's just my opinion, I love watching college football (mainly because there are games five days a week as opposed to two for the NFL) but having gone through a semester of school I am very glad my school finished the season before finals. One other thing, don't split up the BCS games, it's one thing to have the International Bowl the afternoon before a BCS games, but don't put four days between the BCS title game and the Sugar Bowl or and the BCS title game, it's very anti-climactic to go from six games or however many on Jan. 1st to none for two days and then two bowl games that pit the mid-majors against one another.

BTW, I'm not using the layoff as an excuse for Michigan and Ohio State losing, but to me it certainly explains why neither game was much of a competition. Of course I might not think this was such a letdown if I hadn't watched the Boise State-OU game or if the BCS hadn't worked to near perfection last year.

Michigan is a much better and higher caliber team than Florida is. Look for an Ohio State blow out.

Yeah, I definately would say Ohio State got blown away. I feel the score should have been Florida 41-7 considering the illegal holding of a Gator by a Buckeye (Ref must've missed it...) Buckeyes first touchdown should of never been, oh well. Way to kick ass, Go Gators and many more years of dominance of the field. :D

Question: Does anybody know where to get the "Nike Florida Leather Jacket" like the one Coach Urban Meyers was wearing. I've looked and looked and looked to no avail. I know about the 2 time champion Leather Jacket but I want the Nike one. Any help or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

Lay off Boise State's trickery. It wasn't like all of their 43 points were scored via odd plays. They still managed to get four TDs against the vaunted Big 12 powerhouse Oklahoma (later, Sooners -- overrated much?).

That said, the Gators would eat BSU alive. The only similarites for UF and BSU are the colors of their jerseys.

Lay off Boise State's trickery. It wasn't like all of their 43 points were scored via odd plays. They still managed to get four TDs against the vaunted Big 12 powerhouse Oklahoma (later, Sooners -- overrated much?).

That said, the Gators would eat BSU alive. The only similarites for UF and BSU are the colors of their jerseys.

That'd be a fun game to watch. Ohio State sure let me down. Although it does remind me of the days I was a student there. We'd go to the Rose Bowl and get beat by whatever Pac-10 conference team was there.

(later, Sooners -- overrated much?).

Yeah, for about the last five years they've been overrated. Let's see, lose in the Big XII conference title game to K-State but still make the national title game (where they lose to LSU), next year Auburn and USC go undefeated in conferences that were (at the time) much tougher than the Big XII (If Nebraska doesn't represent the Big XII North it's usually a bad year for the Big XII as the Big XII Championship game is usually a formality when anyone else shows up.) but Oklahoma still goes to the title game where they are demolished by USC, then this year they win the Big XII because of an injury to Colt McCoy that cost Texas an appearance in the Big XII title game and also dropped Texas all the way down to the Alamo Bowl where they were beat by Iowa.