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A mormon for President?

Kalnia
03-12-2006, 23:48
accidental post... ignore
Kalnia
03-12-2006, 23:49
Would you vote a Mormon in for presidency? Mitt Romney is one of the republican hopefuls (sp) that may be their Presidential Candidate or possibly somebodies vice.

But that comes to the question would you vote for (or against) him on religion or on policies...


Be honest.



:gundge: *someone told me to put this in my first post*
Fassigen
03-12-2006, 23:53
Mormon?

Ugh.
Todsboro
03-12-2006, 23:53
But that comes to the question would you vote for (or against) him on religion or on policies...

Wouldn't cause me to vote for or against him. I could really care less about someone's religion when it comes to elected office.
Ultraviolent Radiation
03-12-2006, 23:53
Double-post for president. EDIT: Whoa, double-first-post.
Kinda Sensible people
03-12-2006, 23:56
An uber-conservative, look-It's-a-fundamentalist-nutjob Mormon? No way in hell.

A liberal Mormon? Absolutely. A moderate-conservative Mormon running against a liberal I didn't want in office? Yes.

Romney? Not. A. Fucking. Chance.
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 23:58
Double-post for president. EDIT: Whoa, double-first-post.

Well, the second one wasn't a first-post really.. I don't think a double-first-post is a possiblity.
UpwardThrust
04-12-2006, 00:00
No ... Not a big fan of the conservative party to start with. Not a big fan of the Mormon faith secondly, that would not matter in a private citizen but if this man is making decisions for me, with the history of the religious right, I would prefer not allowing someone else that is going to be swayed by his faith and attitude into giving up even more of our rights and freedoms
JuNii
04-12-2006, 00:03
Would you vote a Mormon in for presidency? Mitt Romney is one of the republican hopefuls (sp) that may be their Presidential Candidate or possibly somebodies vice.

But that comes to the question would you vote for (or against) him on religion or on policies...


Be honest.



:gundge: *someone told me to put this in my first post*

dunno, what's his platform, what does he consider to be the Issues and where does he stand on em.

if the only point he has to convince me to vote for him is that he's a mormon, then no.
Ashmoria
04-12-2006, 00:03
if he is conservative enough to let his church unduly influence him, im unlikely to vote for him for his policies.

if he is a liberal republican with good policies i might vote for him, his religion has no bearing on it.

im unlikely to ever vote for any republican but i hold it out as a possibility depending on circumstances.
United Beleriand
04-12-2006, 00:03
Would you vote a Mormon in for presidency? Mitt Romney is one of the republican hopefuls (sp) that may be their Presidential Candidate or possibly somebodies vice.

But that comes to the question would you vote for (or against) him on religion or on policies...


Be honest.



:gundge: *someone told me to put this in my first post*You already have a moro... wait, what's the word again? :rolleyes:
Kinda Sensible people
04-12-2006, 00:04
im unlikely to ever vote for any republican but i hold it out as a possibility depending on circumstances.

If Hillary ran against Giulliani, who would you vote for?
Infinite Revolution
04-12-2006, 00:05
if i was given the choice between a religious conservative, a religious liberal, a non religious conservative and a non religious liberal i would still be looking for a small party candidate. given the choice between a religious conservative and a non religious conservative though i would always go with the non religious candidate.
Sarkhaan
04-12-2006, 00:06
No. Never. The man has done inexplicable ammounts of damage to the Massachusets education system, the Boston public transportation system, allowed the big dig to go excessively over budget without question, and is only now starting to question it since people have started to die, and has done more to hurt stem cell research and gay rights in the state of MA than any other single person.

No.
Kalnia
04-12-2006, 00:06
Right now Romney claims to the the most conservative out of all of the presidential hopefulls....


And the Mormon heads have said that they are not going to endorse Romney because they don't want religion to affect him....... they said they want him to do what he feels is right
Lunatic Goofballs
04-12-2006, 00:07
Would you vote a Mormon in for presidency? Mitt Romney is one of the republican hopefuls (sp) that may be their Presidential Candidate or possibly somebodies vice.

But that comes to the question would you vote for (or against) him on religion or on policies...


Be honest.



:gundge: *someone told me to put this in my first post*

I'm not going to hold someone's personal beliefs against him for a professional position.

But if I were going to, it'd be for mormons. :p
United Beleriand
04-12-2006, 00:08
why bother? a new thread to mess up. hooray!!!

:( :gundge: :) :fluffle: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :p :headbang: ;)

wuaaah:

You have included 13 images in your message. You are limited to using 10 images so please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.
JuNii
04-12-2006, 00:08
someone plz delete.......



lag made it doublepost this request in the moderators forum. ;)
ConscribedComradeship
04-12-2006, 00:09
why bother? a new thread to mess up. hooray!!!

:( :gundge: :) :fluffle: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :p :headbang: ;)

wuaaah:

You have included 13 images in your message. You are limited to using 10 images so please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.

I believe that is called spam.
JuNii
04-12-2006, 00:12
We're MERGED!!! :eek:
Heikoku
04-12-2006, 00:13
But your president already is a moron... o_O

Oh, MORMON! In that case, probably not.
ConscribedComradeship
04-12-2006, 00:14
But your president already is a moron... o_O

Oh, MORMON! In that case, probably not.

Ha ha, déjà dit.
United Beleriand
04-12-2006, 00:17
I believe that is called spam.Yep. officially. I don't get why they merged the thread instead of deleting the second one.. ??
Fnordislovakia
04-12-2006, 00:19
Unlikely to vote for any Republican candidate, however his being a Mormon is irrelevant to me.
Caladonn
04-12-2006, 00:24
I wholeheartedly agree with Sarkhaan. He's been a terrible governor of MA, it makes you wonder how he could have possibly been elected. And then you remember, it was because he pretended to be a pro-choice, pro gay marriage liberal republican, and then threw that all away to appeal to conservatives for a Presidential bid. He recently vetoed $425 million in the Massachusetts budget that was supposed to pay for hostpitals, aid for the mentally retarded, etc. You've got to wonder who would be that heartless.
Swilatia
04-12-2006, 00:31
:gundge: *someone told me to put this in my first post*

i believe they were telling you NOT to put it in.
Sarkhaan
04-12-2006, 00:39
I wholeheartedly agree with Sarkhaan. He's been a terrible governor of MA, it makes you wonder how he could have possibly been elected. And then you remember, it was because he pretended to be a pro-choice, pro gay marriage liberal republican, and then threw that all away to appeal to conservatives for a Presidential bid. He recently vetoed $425 million in the Massachusetts budget that was supposed to pay for hostpitals, aid for the mentally retarded, etc. You've got to wonder who would be that heartless.
The worst for me right now is the T fare issue...the entire board of the MBTA is appointed by Romney. The increase is outrageous (considering it is PUBLIC transportation), but what is even worse is that they are charging for outbound service on the green line...those lines serve BU, BC, and NEU, among others. It is insane to charge for that, when we don't even get a choice in who represents us.
The Royal Code
04-12-2006, 00:43
If you look at how severely, and how frequently mormanism contradicts itself, how sexist it is, and all the rediculous things they believe to have happened, would you really want one as a president?

If one was elected, i'd probobly high-tail it to canada for the next four years, or until the impeachment.
Branin
04-12-2006, 01:45
I am a Mormon. And I would still NEVER vote for him.
Sdaeriji
04-12-2006, 01:47
As has been repeatedly said, anyone who can see the sort of long-term damage Romney has caused the state of Massachusetts would be insane to wish to allow him the same opportunity with the entire country. Of course, sanity and politics are like boys and girls at a middle school dance.
Hammurab
04-12-2006, 01:48
I believe Senator Reid, a prominent Democrat, is also a Latter Day Saint (Mormon). My understanding is that he's been one of the most powerful voices for his side of the aisle.
Free Soviets
04-12-2006, 01:50
Would you vote a Mormon in for presidency?

only if it was a mormon that had given up all pretense of believing in that nonsense.

mormonism - making other religions look comparatively plausible since 1827
Hammurab
04-12-2006, 01:56
only if it was a mormon that had given up all pretense of believing in that nonsense.

mormonism - making other religions look comparatively plausible since 1827

Say, Free Soviets, I've been trying to post an agreement with you on the "Jesus on Trial" thread, but it's hiding the posts until "moderator approval" for some reason. But just so you know, I agree with you on that thread.

As for Mormonism, I imagine "new revelation" will gradually reverse most of Mormonism's doctrine anyway.
Branin
04-12-2006, 01:56
I believe Senator Reid, a prominent Democrat, is also a Latter Day Saint (Mormon). My understanding is that he's been one of the most powerful voices for his side of the aisle.

He is.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
04-12-2006, 01:58
A liberal Mormon? Absolutely.
^ That.
Soviestan
04-12-2006, 02:34
I would not vote for him on both accounts
Streckburg
04-12-2006, 02:58
I wouldnt vote for him on both choices. In general I find the mormon faith to be more contempible and backwards than other forms of christianity and his policies arent libertarian enough for my tastes.
The Nazz
04-12-2006, 03:06
I'd vote for a Mormon if I were convinced that his or her faith wouldn't affect policy. Every person I've voted for in Presidential contests has at least claimed a faith I don't share, so the fact that he or she would be a Mormon wouldn't be of concern.

But this Mormon? Not a chance in hell.
Demon 666
04-12-2006, 03:18
I don't give a shit that he's Mormon, but I would take McCain over Rommey in 2008 for the GOP (and that's saying something, given that I REALLY hate McCain)
I don't trust a guy who would pass a health-care bill like he passed, and I don't trust him on the social issues.
Giuliani for 2008!
New Xero Seven
04-12-2006, 03:20
I vote on policy, not what they believe in religious-wise.
Kalnia
04-12-2006, 03:23
mormonism - making other religions look comparatively plausible since 1827


Actually.... mormonism as a church started in 1830..... april of 1830
New Stalinberg
04-12-2006, 04:10
I'm really tired of Republicans right now. I think the only real Republican now is John McCane. I wouldn't even credit Bush and his cronies as being Republicans.

I don't really have any problems with Mormonsim. I don't buy it, but I know Mormons and they're all really nice people. However, from what I've gathered, I'd say Mormonism is pretty close to being homophibic, and boarderline intollerant. I have problems with that.
The Nazz
04-12-2006, 04:17
I'm really tired of Republicans right now. I think the only real Republican now is John McCane. I wouldn't even credit Bush and his cronies as being Republicans.

I don't really have any problems with Mormonsim. I don't buy it, but I know Mormons and they're all really nice people. However, from what I've gathered, I'd say Mormonism is pretty close to being homophibic, and boarderline intollerant. I have problems with that.

It never fails to boggle me how people think McCain is somehow authentic, that he's not just as hacktackular or worse than any other politician.
Free Soviets
04-12-2006, 04:18
However, from what I've gathered, I'd say Mormonism is pretty close to being homophibic, and boarderline intollerant. I have problems with that.

also, if the darkies are good mormons, their skin will get lighter until they are white again.
New Stalinberg
04-12-2006, 04:49
It never fails to boggle me how people think McCain is somehow authentic, that he's not just as hacktackular or worse than any other politician.

What's your problem with him?

Either way, he's a war hero. :D
The Nazz
04-12-2006, 04:56
What's your problem with him?

Either way, he's a war hero. :D

He's got this reputation as a maverick, as a guy who stands against his party. But when it comes right down to it, he votes party line all the time, and for the last year and a half, has been fellating every right-wing christian psycho group he can in the hopes of getting their support for the 2008 primary season.

Now don't get me wrong--he's well within his rights to do whatever he thinks is necessary (within the law) to win the primary and the general. He just shouldn't act like he's something he isn't.
Centrendom
01-03-2007, 02:12
Here is my opinion as an old-school conservative. Romney seems to me the most fiscally conservative canidate in the running. He has been able to turn major deficits into surpluses-Salt Lake Olympics and Mass. True, at times some people and programs had to be hurt, but the mantra of Mitt is efficiency (sp?). His faith has no factor to me because he has demonstrated his specific faith has no bearing in his politics. His charater and ideology is derived from his religion, but that is true for most all religions.
New Mitanni
01-03-2007, 02:46
Would you vote a Mormon in for presidency? Mitt Romney is one of the republican hopefuls (sp) that may be their Presidential Candidate or possibly somebodies vice.

But that comes to the question would you vote for (or against) him on religion or on policies...


Be honest.



:gundge: *someone told me to put this in my first post*

Romney being a Mormon is a matter of indifference. It would depend on his policies. From what I know of his policies, he seems acceptable to me if he's the GOP nominee.