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Is President Bush Sane?
by Paul Craig Roberts

Tens of millions of Americans want President George W. Bush to be impeached for the lies and deceit he used to launch an illegal war and for violating his oath of office to uphold the US Constitution. Millions of other Americans want Bush turned over to the war crimes tribunal at the Hague. The true fate that awaits Bush is psychiatric incarceration.

The president of the United States is so deep into denial that he is no longer among the sane.

Delusion still rules Bush three weeks after the American people repudiated him and his catastrophic war in elections that delivered both House and Senate to the Democrats in the hope that control over Congress would give the opposition party the strength to oppose the mad occupant of the White House.

On November 28 Bush insisted that US troops would not be withdrawn from Iraq until he had completed his mission of building a stable Iraqi democracy capable of spreading democratic change in the Middle East.

Bush made this astonishing statement the day after NBC News, a major television network, declared Iraq to be in the midst of a civil war, a judgment with which former Secretary of State Colin Powell concurs.

The same day that Bush reaffirmed his commitment to building a stable Iraqi democracy, a secret US Marine Corps intelligence report was leaked. According to the Washington Post, the report concludes: "the social and political situation has deteriorated to a point that US and Iraqi troops are no longer capable of militarily defeating the insurgency in al-Anbar province."

The Marine Corps intelligence report says that al-Qaeda is the "dominant organization of influence" in Anbar province, and is more important than local authorities, the Iraqi government and US troops "in its ability to control the day-to-day life of the average Sunni."

Bush’s astonishing determination to deny Iraq reality was made the same day that the US-installed Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki and US puppet King Abdullah II of Jordan abruptly cancelled a meeting with Bush after Bush was already in route to Jordan on Air Force One. Bush could not meet with Maliki in Iraq, because violence in Baghdad is out of control. For security reasons, the US Secret Service would not allow President Bush to go to Iraq, where he is "building a stable democracy."

Bush made his astonishing statement in the face of news leaks of the Iraq Study Group’s call for a withdrawal of all US combat forces from Iraq. The Iraq Study Group is led by Bush family operative James A. Baker, a former White House chief of staff, former Secretary of the Treasury, and former Secretary of State. Baker was tasked by father Bush to save the son. Apparently, son Bush hasn’t enough sanity to allow himself to be saved.

Bush’s denial of Iraqi reality was made even as one of the most influential Iraqi Shi'ite leaders, Moqtada al-Sadr, is building an anti-US parliamentary alliance to demand the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.

Maliki himself appears on the verge of desertion by his American sponsors. The White House has reportedly "lost confidence" in Maliki’s "ability to control violence." Fox "News" disinformation agency immediately began blaming Maliki for the defeat the US has suffered in Iraq. NY Governor Pataki told Fox "News" that "Maliki is not doing his job." Pataki claimed that US troops were doing "a great job."

A number of other politicians and talking heads joined in the scapegoating of Maliki. No one explained how Maliki can be expected to save Iraq when US troops cannot provide enough security for the Iraqi government to go outside the heavily fortified "green zone" that occupies a small area of Baghdad. If the US Marines cannot control Anbar province, what chance is there for Maliki? What can Maliki do if the security provided by US troops is so bad that the president of the US cannot even visit the country?

The only people in Iraq who are safe belong to al-Qaeda and the Sunni insurgents or are Shi'ite militia leaders such as al-Sadr.

An American group, the Center for Constitutional Rights, has filed war crimes charges in Germany against former US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. A number of former US attorneys believe President Bush and Vice President Cheney deserve the same.

Bush has destroyed the entire social, political, and economic fabric of Iraq. Saddam Hussein sat on the lid of Pandora’s Box of sectarian antagonisms, but Bush has opened the lid. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed as "collateral damage" in Bush’s war to bring "stable democracy" to Iraq. Tens of thousands of Iraqi children have been orphaned and maimed. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have fled their country. The Middle East is aflame with hatred of America, and the ground is shaking under the feet of American puppet governments in the Middle East. US casualties (killed and wounded) number 25,000.

And Bush has not had enough!

What better proof of Bush’s insanity could there be?

Roberts once again hits the nail on the head (http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=10093), just as he did earlier when he proved (http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=8773) that Bush is not a "conservative."

What question is that after all we have seen of this dude?

Bush is too dangerous to simply label insane, stupid or ignorant.

of course he is insane.

I do think that our President is slightly less sane than the average American, though it's not because of the bungling of the Iraq War. It has to do with his overall behavior patterns.

I also very much agree with something else Roberts said:

In short, real conservatives believe in conserving the Constitution, government accountability, and civil liberties, and avoiding foreign entanglements. Judging by its behavior and its statements, the Bush administration stands completely outside the conservative tradition.

Amen to that. I'm a conservative, and I hate what the Bush administration and the Republican party are doing to conservatism. I want my ideology back, and I want it cleaned before it's given back.

Why he's as sane as the next man. If the next man is the president of Iran.

I do think that our President is slightly less sane than the average American, though it's not because of the bungling of the Iraq War. It has to do with his overall behavior patterns.

I also very much agree with something else Roberts said:



Amen to that. I'm a conservative, and I hate what the Bush administration and the Republican party are doing to conservatism. I want my ideology back, and I want it cleaned before it's given back.

Me too! The Neo-Cons, Republicans, and Bush took my ideology and wiped their asses with it.

Let's see...

Believes God talks to him... Check.

Denies reality based on his own ideas... Check.

Has delusions of power... Check.

I'd say psychotic or megalomaniac, though a more thorough examination would be in order.

Why he's as sane as the next man. If the next man is the president of Iran.

The Iranian President aint mad, hes pretty clever. hes got the US Gov't annoyed and scared. He might not even be doin anythin, but he's lead everyone to think he is.

Bush is insane, Iraq is still spiralling out of control, the Swiss are still making cheese......Another normal day in the world.

"tens of millions" sounds like a minority to me. We do have hundreds of millions as for the whole population.

Anyways, isn't anybody getting tired of these anti-bush threads. He only has 2 more years to go in office then nobody has to worry about him. I personally feel that the Legislature has much more important issues than to impeach Bush which in reality would take more than a year to accomplish which would be a complete waste of time.

Anyways, isn't anybody getting tired of these anti-bush threads. He only has has barely more than a year to go in office then nobody has to worry about him. I personally feel that the Legislature has much more important issues than to impeach Bush which in reality would take more than a year to accomplish which would be a complete waste of time.

See, I mostly agree, but he needs to be investigated. If the President has broken the law, no matter how inconsequential an impeachment would be, it is critical that it be made clear that he is in violation of the law. It is a symbolic thing (to prevent history repeating itself) and it is a message to the people in power.

Practically speaking, the value in impeaching the President is not in getting rid of the specific President, it is in making sure that there is a precedent for his successors to learn from.

See, I mostly agree, but he needs to be investigated. If the President has broken the law, no matter how inconsequential an impeachment would be, it is critical that it be made clear that he is in violation of the law. It is a symbolic thing (to prevent history repeating itself) and it is a message to the people in power.

Practically speaking, the value in impeaching the President is not in getting rid of the specific President, it is in making sure that there is a precedent for his successors to learn from.

If we investigated every president that broke the law then we would be impeaching every president with trials in the Senate for all of them as well. Every president has broken the law in way or another. The question comes though, does it fall under the constitution as a high crime or misdemeanor!

The Iranian President aint mad, hes pretty clever. hes got the US Gov't annoyed and scared. He might not even be doin anythin, but he's lead everyone to think he is.

Insane doesnt mean stupid. And he is insane. You see in Islam there is a story about an 5 year old boy who fell into a well a long time ago. The story goes that when the world is filled with suffering and evil he will return and set everything right. The president of Iran is a member of a religious cult that attempts to speed up his return by filling the world with sufering and evil.

If we investigated every president that broke the law then we would be impeaching every president with trials in the Senate for all of them as well. Every president has broken the law in way or another. The question comes though, does it fall under the constitution as a high crime or misdemeanor!

:rolleyes:

I'm sorry... I should have said:

See, I mostly agree, but he needs to be investigated. If the President has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, no matter how inconsequential an impeachment would be, it is critical that it be made clear that he has overstepped his bounds. It is a symbolic thing (to prevent history repeating itself) and it is a message to the people in power.

Practically speaking, the value in impeaching the President is not in getting rid of the specific President, it is in making sure that there is a precedent for his successors to learn from.

See, I mostly agree, but he needs to be investigated. If the President has broken the law, no matter how inconsequential an impeachment would be, it is critical that it be made clear that he is in violation of the law. It is a symbolic thing (to prevent history repeating itself) and it is a message to the people in power.

Practically speaking, the value in impeaching the President is not in getting rid of the specific President, it is in making sure that there is a precedent for his successors to learn from.


i agree with you. i believe he should be investigated, and would probably be found guilty of several crimes.

Snip.

We will stop talking about him as soon as he stops being a threat to the world.

We will stop talking about him as soon as he stops being a threat to the world.

QFT.

Sanity is merely having views that are either logical or popular.

The latter being put there just to appease the religious, no doubt.

People don't really understand the facts.

Democrats screw the majority of things up.:gundge:

People don't really understand the facts.

Democrats screw the majority of things up.:gundge:

Congrats on remembering to put the :gundge: smiley in your first post!

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Dude! He's outsane (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=outsane)! Like, woaaah man.

"tens of millions" sounds like a minority to me. We do have hundreds of millions as for the whole population.

Anyways, isn't anybody getting tired of these anti-bush threads. He only has has barely more than a year to go in office then nobody has to worry about him. I personally feel that the Legislature has much more important issues than to impeach Bush which in reality would take more than a year to accomplish which would be a complete waste of time.

NOW who is delusional?

bush will be president of the US until january, 2009. it is now december, 2006.

he has a bit over 2 years left in office

Not insane.
Greedy, self-serving and in the pocket of big business.

Is President Bush Sane?

Of course he is. it's everyone else in the world that's insane!

*puts on pink tuu-tuu and rides the ostrich off the thread*

Greedy, self-serving and in the pocket of big business...not to mention, dumb as a rock AND insane.

Fixed. :p

Is there any evidence to indicate he is anything other than a rather
stupid man?

Bush is doing what Bush has always done, parroting the words prepared for him with little or possibly no understanding of what those words mean.

What is it with these articles saying the American people repudiated Bush's policies because a few seats were swapped from republicans to democrats.
What is the massive difference in policies between republicans and
democrats on the wars in the middle east?

Insane? No! Crafty, sly, slick, greedy, devious and under-educated; yes!

Rather inept, a little unbalanced, sometimes extreme in his views, too off the cuff, and too owned by the neoconservatives and business interests. He is not particularly ingenious, he looks like a wind up doll. He seems more stupid and owned than insane...

"tens of millions" sounds like a minority to me. We do have hundreds of millions as for the whole population.

Anyways, isn't anybody getting tired of these anti-bush threads. He only has has barely more than a year to go in office then nobody has to worry about him. I personally feel that the Legislature has much more important issues than to impeach Bush which in reality would take more than a year to accomplish which would be a complete waste of time.

Last I heard, the Dems said they had no intention of impeaching him. They were going to let him be a lame duck, and just fade away. Personally, I think that's exactly what they should do. We've had marginalized, unimportant Presidents before. We'll survive.

If we investigated every president that broke the law then we would be impeaching every president with trials in the Senate for all of them as well. Every president has broken the law in way or another. The question comes though, does it fall under the constitution as a high crime or misdemeanor!

When we can investigate one president over whether or not using a cigar is having sex with someone, surely investigating whether another's policies are in violation of the Constitutional powers he holds is at LEAST as important?

I don't know whether I go so far as to call him insane. I think he's more of the 'born-again christian ex-alcoholic' ilk.
you know, the ones who can only see things in terms of black and white.

Either you drink or you don't.
Either you snort coke or you don't.
Either you're a Christian or you ain't.
Either you're with us or you're against us.

That sort of thing.

Bascially they have to see things in this light. It helps them not to drink. Once they start seeing things in terms of shades of grey again, it's easy to start justifying having a drink, go on, one little drink won't hurt ya...

Now this is decent enough thinking for some joe lunchpack who's in a middle-management position of a small business somewhere. but when it's the most powerful job position on Earth...well, hmmm...not so good.

I'm saner. :)

I'm saner. :)

Says the man who uses his manhood as a crash test dummy.

My question is this: Could any sane person actually want the job of President of the United States?

Is President Bush Sane?
by Paul Craig Roberts



Roberts once again hits the nail on the head (http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=10093), just as he did earlier when he proved (http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=8773) that Bush is not a "conservative."

Yes.
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IMO anyone who thinks they're cut-out to be a great president is insane.

Well I don´t know he´s insane or not, I´m no psychiatrist. People shouldn´t rush into making judgements they´re not qualified to.

But on the other hand I heard he wears the presidential seal on his boots...:rolleyes:

What question is that after all we have seen of this dude?

He disagrees with you, thus he's insane.

DIAGNOSIS AWAY!

NOW who is delusional?

bush will be president of the US until january, 2009. it is now december, 2006.

he has a bit over 2 years left in office

Thanks for the correction. :)

I'm saner. :)

What's worrying is this is true.

to call bush insane is an insult to all insane wackos everywhere.

to call bush insane is an insult to all insane wackos everywhere.

Nice move.

This falls into my favorite idiot pattern.

<insert name of President here (Clinton, Bush)>

is <insert "insane", "stupid">

At the same time, said President is a mastermind of the dark arts, and the leader of an insidious conspiracy that has no parallel in all of history, and is a superintelligent evil mastermind.

So, which is it?

... Amen to that. I'm a conservative, and I hate what the Bush administration and the Republican party are doing to conservatism. I want my ideology back, and I want it cleaned before it's given back.

Me too! The Neo-Cons, Republicans, and Bush took my ideology and wiped their asses with it.

Dude, where's my ideology? (Apologies if someone's done this already.)

You've been used, guys. Plenty of room in the big Democratic Party tent, though. :p

Dude, where's my ideology? (Apologies if someone's done this already.)

You've been used, guys. Plenty of room in the big Democratic Party tent, though. :p

Only if you want the party to try to toss you out of office for disagreeing with them.

This falls into my favorite idiot pattern.

<insert name of President here (Clinton, Bush)>

is <insert "insane", "stupid">

At the same time, said President is a mastermind of the dark arts, and the leader of an insidious conspiracy that has no parallel in all of history, and is a superintelligent evil mastermind.

So, which is it?

bumped

This falls into my favorite idiot pattern.

<insert name of President here (Clinton, Bush)>

is <insert "insane", "stupid">

At the same time, said President is a mastermind of the dark arts, and the leader of an insidious conspiracy that has no parallel in all of history, and is a superintelligent evil mastermind.

So, which is it?

Psychotic person that serves as a tool for evil masterminds such as Cheney and Rove.

Next.

Psychotic person that serves as a tool for evil masterminds such as Cheney and Rove.

Next.

Riiiight. So, by a similar extension, was Clinton merely an overly horny tool for evil mastermind Hillary?

I don't think he's insane.

He's just plain stupid.

Dude, where's my ideology? (Apologies if someone's done this already.)

You've been used, guys. Plenty of room in the big Democratic Party tent, though. :p

I haven't been used. I never voted for Bush, or for the Republicans. I vote third-party because I can't stand the big two.

This falls into my favorite idiot pattern.

<insert name of President here (Clinton, Bush)>

is <insert "insane", "stupid">

At the same time, said President is a mastermind of the dark arts, and the leader of an insidious conspiracy that has no parallel in all of history, and is a superintelligent evil mastermind.

So, which is it?

Some people simply cannot deal with the idea that they have a puppet presidency, so despite Bushes glaringly obvious stupidity, they see the cunning,devious and self serving to the oil elites policies that he is a mouthpiece for and assign to him the
qualities necessary to have devised or at least considered these things on his own.

He's a past Coke head, it fried his brain years ago.

i read this as, is president bush shane?