Aren't There More Important Things We Should Be Worrying About?
Hallucinogenic Tonic
03-12-2006, 05:21
Don't we, as a nation, have more meaningful topics to address?
Article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061202/ap_on_fe_st/beer_labels)
Holyawesomeness
03-12-2006, 05:26
More important than beer? HELL NO!!:D
Don't we, as a nation,
What nation are "we"?
Daniloth
03-12-2006, 05:29
Why wont anyone think of the children?! :rolleyes:
Ah well. It's generally good to avoid advertising 'adult' things to kids, but I'm not sure that it's a really going to be an effective ad to them anyway. *shrug*
Hallucinogenic Tonic
03-12-2006, 05:31
More important than beer? HELL NO!!:D
I was thinking more about how pathetic it is to get upset over the depiction of a fictional character downing a pint of brew!!!
Almighty America
03-12-2006, 05:33
What nation are "we"?
HT is referring to the nation that is vehemently hated by you-know-who on Gabbly.
I was thinking more about how pathetic it is to get upset over the depiction of a fictional character downing a pint of brew!!!
What do you mean fictional?
HT is referring to the nation that is vehemently hated by you-know-who on Gabbly.
I see....well, I fell that, before he reaches the rather magnificent milestone of 200 posts, he should realise that it's generally a bad idea to assume that people here will assume he means the USA.
You know, what with it being a British hosted forum, owned by an Australian, and with a membership spread throughout the world.
Just a point.
The South Islands
03-12-2006, 05:37
That's government for you. Ignore the real issues and legislate on things that don't need legislation!
Hallucinogenic Tonic
03-12-2006, 05:47
I see....well, I fell that, before he reaches the rather magnificent milestone of 200 posts, he should realise that it's generally a bad idea to assume that people here will assume he means the USA.
You know, what with it being a British hosted forum, owned by an Australian, and with a membership spread throughout the world.
Just a point.
Sorry! I suppose I was under the assumption that PORTLAND, Maine would give it away!!!
Sorry! I suppose I was under the assumption that PORTLAND, Maine would give it away!!!
Maine? In France?
I'm not aware of a Portland in Maine, France. Certainly doesn't seem like a French name.
I jest (partially), but its just a heads up to never assume that other people know what, or where, you're talking about around these parts.
Hallucinogenic Tonic
03-12-2006, 05:56
Maine? In France?
I'm not aware of a Portland in Maine, France. Certainly doesn't seem like a French name.
I jest (partially), but its just a heads up to never assume that other people know what, or where, you're talking about around these parts.
I wasn't aware there was a Maine, France! I also just assumed the US was the only nation sad enough to consider this an issue!!!
Anyway, point taken! :cool:
I wasn't aware there was a Maine, France!
Yea, as far as I know its where Maine, USA got its name from :)
I also just assumed the US was the only nation sad enough to consider this an issue!!!
Well, it could well be, but that's not an argument I'm not about to get into :p
Anyway, point taken! :cool:
Excellent, one more 'convert' on the road to realising that this forum is truly international :)
Kleptonis
03-12-2006, 06:56
I think that given the context of the post (the American sig, the reference to American institutions, the fact that most posters here are Americans, and that most of the time it's Americans who are ambiguous about the nation they're talking about too) that anyone reasonably intelligent could figure out that we're talking about the US. Besides, the knowledge that this is happening in the US isn't necessary to understand the article. So long story short - why bother making an issue of it? Is it really that much of a stretch to do some analysis?
Of course, in my great hypocracy, I've made an issue out of someone making and issue of something unimportant. But if I didn't have issues with people making issues out of unimportant things, I wouldn't have read this thread, would I?
Now going on to the topic of the thread, I say let the beer go out, and if people find it offensive, they won't buy it. Enough people don't buy it, and it goes away. Simple as. The reasoning against isn't very strong either:
But the state says it's within its rights. The label with Santa might appeal to children, said Maine State Police Lt. Patrick Fleming. The other two labels are considered inappropriate because they show bare-breasted women.
So we have the children, and the problem of evil boobies. Now, why does it matter if it appeals to children? They can't buy it anyway, and if they could, I think they'd be more interested in what's in the beer bottle than what's on it. As for breasts, that's just an issue of what they think is decent and legislating on it. I'd probably do it too, just not to the same degree. Say they had a photograph of child porn on their bottle, for some twisted reason. I'd vote to ban that. I suppose all I can say is they should lighten up about breasts.
Maine was an English colony, Naddy.
Also: Maine is apparently afraid of Santa beer and boobies. What's wrong with Santa beer and boobies? I wouldn't drink the beer anyway, but for America's sake, why should it matter?
Besides, I'm pretty sure kids have a lot of reasons for going after beer that one more--potential, at that--wouldn't make a difference.
I think that given the context of the post (the American sig, the reference to American institutions, the fact that most posters here are Americans, and that most of the time it's Americans who are ambiguous about the nation they're talking about too) that anyone reasonably intelligent could figure out that we're talking about the US.
Of course they could; but the lesson here is never assume on NS...
Maine was an English colony, Naddy.
Was it not settled by the French first?
(I'm not making Maine in France up, you know :p, and it's also a place in my very own Northern Ireland...and, apparently, several other places in the USA outside of the state)
Was it not settled by the French first?
(I'm not making Maine in France up, you know :p, and it's also a place in my very own Northern Ireland...and, apparently, several other places in the USA outside of the state)
I don't know. It's been a while since I studied that time period.
I would actually hazard a guess that it's more likely to have been a Dutch colony than anything else, considering New York was originally.
But, in the interest of academic curiosity...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine#History
The original inhabitants of the territory that is now Maine were Algonquian-speaking peoples including the Wabanaki, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscots. The first European settlement in Maine was in 1604 by a French party that included Samuel de Champlain, the noted explorer. The French named the area that includes Maine as Acadia. English colonists sponsored by the Plymouth Company settled in 1607. The coastal areas of western Maine first became the Province of Maine in a 1622 land patent. Eastern Maine north of the Kennebec River was more sparsely settled and was known in the 17th century as the Territory of Sagadahock.
Alrighty then. First settlement WAS French, but it was called Acadia. The English later colonized it and called it Maine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine#History
Alrighty then. First settlement WAS French, but it was called Acadia. The English later colonized it and called it Maine.
From the same Wiki page:
Maine is probably named after the French province of Maine
;)
From the same Wiki page:
;)
Reading comprehension, Matt. Learn it, live it, love it. :(
Matt being me, of course.
Kroisistan
03-12-2006, 07:27
Can you come up with something more important for our government to spend their time on than protecting our children from the evils of alcohol and basic human anatomy? Niether can I. Onward, Christian soldiers.
Don't we, as a nation, have more meaningful topics to address?
Article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061202/ap_on_fe_st/beer_labels)
no. after all, putting santa on the beer bottle can be seen as advertisments targeting children, and selling alcohol to underage people is ILLEGAL.
Kleptonis
03-12-2006, 07:43
Of course they could; but the lesson here is never assume on NS...
Or else side conversations like this get started. :D
Harlesburg
03-12-2006, 12:22
If it was a real beer sure, but American?
*Shakes head*
no. after all, putting santa on the beer bottle can be seen as advertisments targeting children, and selling alcohol to underage people is ILLEGAL.
Its just a damn Santa!!! And no idiot is going to sell beer to a 4 year old
The Fleeing Oppressed
03-12-2006, 13:01
Its just a damn Santa!!! And no idiot is going to sell beer to a 4 year old
You're trying to oppress us with your rules, man. If a 4 year old wants to buy my beer, they should be allowed to. You evil anti-libertarian.
If it was a real beer sure, but American?
*Shakes head*
I'm sorry, but as bad as American beer tastes, any foreign beer I've ever had tastes FAR worse. Beer just plain sucks.
Or else side conversations like this get started. :D
Bingo :D