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I see a lot of discussion of god around here. Could someone please provide me with a definition?

There are more or less several definitions, but only ONE is is the right one. Choose wisely.

There are more or less several definitions, but only ONE is is the right one. Choose wisely.

And no one will ever know which one that is...

Hahahahahahaha.

This has got to be one of the essential questions of all mankind.

I doubt that NSG can give you an answer that would suffice.

Thanks for the chuckle, though - and God be with you. ;):p:D

There are more or less several definitions, but only ONE is is the right one. Choose wisely.

Choose Your Pogo Stick Wisely, indeed.


Anyways, god is an invisible pink unicorn. More info here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_pink_unicorn) To suggest anything else is pure ignorance.

God is so much, but let me try to make it make sense. He is our Creator and He is our Sustainor. He created the world, but it fell to sin. So He sent His one and only Son to die that we may have eternal life in Heaven.

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
3 : a person or thing of supreme value
4 : a powerful ruler

There.

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
3 : a person or thing of supreme value
4 : a powerful ruler

There.

Ahh NSG... What would I do without this place?

Definition: Jim

Definition: Jim

So you worship your worst enemy?

Dictionary. com- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/God

There :)

So you worship your worst enemy?

? I was providing my definition of god.

@ Greater Trostia: so to be an atheist do I have to disbelieve that any of those 4 definitions exist or just one of them? And in the last case, can I be an atheist (person or thing of extreme value), while being a theist (powerful ruler). Because I think powerful rulers exist but there is no such thing as extreme value.

God is something; god is nothing; god is everything.

Satisfied? :)

God is a crazy woman. Consult your pineal gland for further information. Or www.principiadiscordia.com.

? I was providing my definition of god.

But aren't you a Satanist?

God is something; god is nothing; god is everything.

Satisfied? :)
No.
According to this definition something=nothing=everything. According to this definition I have to be an atheist because I can't believe such anti-mathematical crap.

@ Greater Trostia: so to be an atheist do I have to disbelieve that any of those 4 definitions exist or just one of them? And in the last case, can I be an atheist (person or thing of extreme value), while being a theist (powerful ruler). Because I think powerful rulers exist but there is no such thing as extreme value.

Technically, to be an atheist, you need only disbelieve one particular god of one particular religion. At least that's how they defined it in the old days. It's probably different now.

Disbelieving the 3rd and 4th definitions don't make you an atheist, though. That makes you a wiseass.

The definition of god changes depending upon the evidence presented to disprove its existence.

Technically, to be an atheist, you need only disbelieve one particular god of one particular religion. At least that's how they defined it in the old days. It's probably different now.

Disbelieving the 3rd and 4th definitions don't make you an atheist, though. That makes you a wiseass.
So why are 3 & 4 listed? And is an atheist then not someone who just disbelieves in one more god than a theist?

It all depends on your definition. God can literally be anything, with the only real caveat being that it has to be something more powerful than you (unless you seriously consider yourself God, in which case your either a true example of divine intervention or you're insane).

But aren't you a Satanist?

Ummm...yeah. Your point?

Ummm...yeah. Your point?

I'm not gonna bother as the pseudo-logic no long makes sense to me anymore.

It all depends on your definition. God can literally be anything, with the only real caveat being that it has to be something more powerful than you (unless you seriously consider yourself God, in which case your either a true example of divine intervention or you're insane).But what is your definition? How can we discuss god if we do not agree on what god is?

Ummm...yeah. Your point?

I, as a Christian, was just curious about how Satanists define God and how they view Jesus the Christ.

I'm not gonna bother as the pseudo-logic no long makes sense to me anymore.

It's because Satanists are incapable of applying logic to such things.

So why are 3 & 4 listed?

They're listed because language is ambiguous and annoying like that.

And is an atheist then not someone who just disbelieves in one more god than a theist?

Sure they are.

But then you could also say that actually, everybody is an atheist, just some are delusional hypocrites.

It's because Satanists are incapable of applying logic to such things.

Which differs Satanism from other religions how?

I'm not gonna bother as the pseudo-logic no long makes sense to me anymore.

Fair enough, as your questions made no sense.

Which differs Satanism from other religions how?

Because other religions can. Unless you consider Scientology a religion.

I, as a Christian, was just curious about how Satanists define God and how they view Jesus the Christ.

We are each our own god, and Christ, is at best, a historical person that many beleive to be the son of god.

We are each our own god, and Christ, is at best, a historical person that many beleive to be the son of god.

...Than why are you called Satanists?

It's because Satanists are incapable of applying logic to such things.

And how did you come to this conclusion?

We are each our own god, and Christ, is at best, a historical person that many beleive to be the son of god.

Oh, really . . . As a Satanist, would you admit that Yahweh (God) exists and is the enemy of Satan?

Because other religions can. Unless you consider Scientology a religion.

Funny.

...Than why are you called Satanists?

Ultimately because thats what we want to be called.

And how did you come to this conclusion?

Because I concluded you were the other kind.

God was messing with my mind today. :eek:

Fair enough, as your questions made no sense.

So?

Oh, really . . . As a Satanist, would you admit that Yahweh (God) exists and is the enemy of Satan?

God and Satan, only exist in the imagination of mankind. They are the creations of man. They can be enemies, or the best of friends. You get to chose whichever you wish to believe.

God and Satan, only exist in the imagination of mankind. They are the creations of man. They can be enemies, or the best of friends. You get to chose whichever you wish to believe.

Then are you truly a Satanist? Wouldn't call yourself that imply that you believe in at the least in Satan?

Then are you truly a Satanist? Wouldn't call yourself that imply that you believe in at the least in Satan?

I would suggest that you research Satanism. Laveyan Satanism for preference, but there are other Satanic groups out there. Satanism is an atheistic religion that beleives in no external god, be it yahweh, satan, odin or zues.

I would suggest that you research Satanism. Laveyan Satanism for preference, but there are other Satanic groups out there. Satanism is an atheistic religion that beleives in no external god, be it yahweh, satan, odin or zues.

Then, if there is no eternal God or gods, how is it proper for people with such a belief to call themselves Satanists?

Then, if there is no eternal God or gods, how is it proper for people with such a belief to call themselves Satanists?

First point: I said "external" not "eternal"

Second point: The Church of Satan was founded as a counter to the dominant religion in the USA, hence the name Satanist. Had Odinism been the dominant religion in america, then no doublt We would have been called Lokiists. (On a side note, We use the names of the counter-gods of all religions, depending on the culture that the individual Satanist was rasied in or has an affinity for. I am personally fond of Loki, Kokopelli, and Coyote.)

First point: I said "external" not "eternal"

Second point: The Church of Satan was founded as a counter to the dominant religion in the USA, hence the name Satanist. Had Odinism been the dominant religion in america, then no doublt We would have been called Lokiists. (On a side note, We use the names of the counter-gods of all religions, depending on the culture that the individual Satanist was rasied in or has an affinity for. I am personally fond of Loki, Kokopelli, and Coyote.)

Carrying the name Satanist implies worship of Satan just as the name Christian implies worship in Christ.

Satanists are mearly a coin termed. I believe that in Hebrew the word "Satan" means "Rebel". Fitting as they are rebels against mainstream religions.

Carrying the name Satanist implies worship of Satan just as the name Christian implies worship in Christ.

By that logic a Stalinst worships Stalin then, correct?

We carry the name Satanist, Not because we see Satan as an external entity to be worshipped, but as a human archtype to be emulated. Again I suggest you do a little research, as I speak only for myself as a Satanist, not for the church or any other Satanist.
The Church of Satan website (http://churchofsatan.com)

Satanists are mearly a coin termed. I believe that in Hebrew the word "Satan" means "Rebel". Fitting as they are rebels against mainstream religions.

Well said and accurate, but not complete: Satan also means proud outcast, and accuser, questioner, as well.