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What's so bad about Pink Floyd?

Hydesland
30-11-2006, 19:12
And, as a followup question, whats so amazing about pink floyd?

I've never understood this love it or hate it idea behind pink floyd.
Smunkeeville
30-11-2006, 19:14
most of my affinity for Pink Floyd comes from songs that have meaning to me in context, out of context.......not so much.
Hydesland
30-11-2006, 19:15
The spelling in your title?

Damn I honestly didn't mean to do that!
Spaysnazi
30-11-2006, 19:24
I think partly it's because my father always listened to Pink Floyd, and I grew up listening to it.

I like the depth the music has, and the nonstandard techniques. The lyrics tend to be utterly depressing, I admit, but not all of it. Depends on the album.

"Learning to Fly" is just killer. I love it.

But I guess it really comes down to personal taste. I've never liked Coldplay, and one of my friends is just crazy about Evanescence, which I could never really get into, either. Whatever makes you happy.
The Potato Factory
30-11-2006, 19:33
I like "Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2." That's about it.
Andaluciae
30-11-2006, 19:55
most of my affinity for Pink Floyd comes from songs that have meaning to me in context, out of context.......not so much.

I know exactly what you mean.

If it's got a point in my life where the songs seem to fit, it's some of the greatest music in the world.
Peepelonia
30-11-2006, 19:58
And, as a followup question, whats so amazing about pink floyd?

I've never understood this love it or hate it idea behind pink floyd.

Hehe shit man it's purely a mary jane thing
Kanabia
30-11-2006, 20:01
I like them, but they definitely require a certain mood. I'm still working my way through their back catalogue.
Andaluciae
30-11-2006, 20:02
Hehe shit man it's purely a mary jane thing

Not for me. I loathe drugs, but there's stuff from Pink Floyd that I absolutely love. I've just gotta be feelin' right.
Smunkeeville
30-11-2006, 20:03
I know exactly what you mean.

If it's got a point in my life where the songs seem to fit, it's some of the greatest music in the world.

I can listen to it and almost be there you know? I can remember everything, how I felt, what I wanted, everything. It's meaningful like a yearbook might be to someone else.
Bitchkitten
30-11-2006, 20:05
Hehe shit man it's purely a mary jane thing
Not true. I don't smoke pot and I love Pink Floyd.
Of course, my brain's naturally a little fried. Doesn't need pot.
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 20:06
And, as a followup question, whats so amazing about pink floyd?


Five words for why they are so brilliant - Dark Side Of The Moon.
Morganatron
30-11-2006, 20:11
And, as a followup question, whats so amazing about pink floyd?

Ever seen a laser Floyd show? That will answer all your questions. :D
Andaluciae
30-11-2006, 20:13
I can listen to it and almost be there you know? I can remember everything, how I felt, what I wanted, everything. It's meaningful like a yearbook might be to someone else.

Absolutely. I turn on "Wish You Were Here", close my eyes and it's almost a picture perfect memory.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-11-2006, 20:14
Hating a "classic" band is the generally accepted way to bolster one's indie cred. Hence, t3h Intarwebs are full of long, vitriolic rants against The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc.

On the other hand, this thread just reminded that it has been too long since I listened to The Wall, and it is just as weird and cool as I remembered it.
Unabashed Greed
30-11-2006, 20:15
There's nothing wrong with the band. In fact, they were, by far, greater than the sum of the parts. While they were together they made the most consistently great music over a large number of albums. By contrast, the individual members that went on to make solo albums were not quite up to the level they had achieved as a whole.
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 20:24
Hating a "classic" band is the generally accepted way to bolster one's indie cred. Hence, t3h Intarwebs are full of long, vitriolic rants against The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc.

On the other hand, this thread just reminded that it has been too long since I listened to The Wall, and it is just as weird and cool as I remembered it.

Haven't you noticed its the successful artists that are always ranted about but the lesser known acts everybody mentions and everybody on the same thread seems to agree....but they hardly sell any records. It would be alot easier if people were able to recognise talented bands in other genres and leave them be.
Kanabia
30-11-2006, 20:27
Haven't you noticed its the successful artists that are always ranted about but the lesser known acts everybody mentions and everybody on the same thread seems to agree....but they hardly sell any records. It would be alot easier if people were able to recognise talented bands in other genres and leave them be.

So... I should see any artist that sells a lot of records as objectively "good"? Pish, I say. :p
Unabashed Greed
30-11-2006, 20:31
So... I should see any artist that sells a lot of records as objectively "good"? Pish, I say. :p

No, but a band or artist that appeals to fans consistently over an entire body of work should. For instance, how were sales of Kajagoogoo's second album? Or Jeff Healy, or Dexy's Midnight Runners, etc.

How long was Dark Side of the Moon on the top 100 list?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-11-2006, 20:31
So... I should see any artist that sells a lot of records as objectively "good"? Pish, I say. :p
Aside from album sales, what other objective measures of a bands "goodness" are there?
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 20:33
Aside from album sales, what other objective measures of a bands "goodness" are there?

Influence on later musicians? Critical reception?
Unabashed Greed
30-11-2006, 20:34
Influence on later musicians? Critical reception?

Which Pink Floyd had both of in bundles the size of the astrodome
Killinginthename
30-11-2006, 20:37
Pink Floyd is one of my all time favorite bands.
I can remember the first time I listened to Dark Side of the Moon.
I remember sleeping out in front of the ticket place in my car to be the first one in line to get my tickets to see PF.

I remember the crazy night that my girlfriend took 'shrooms and listened to PF all night long.

They are a great band and my life would have been a lot less fun without their influence.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-11-2006, 20:41
Influence on later musicians? Critical reception?
You can't easily measure (or even verify) influence, and even if one could, a terrible musician could easily influence other terrible musicians.
And I wouldn't trust a music critic to determine the wetness of water, let alone musical quality.
Kanabia
30-11-2006, 20:43
How long was Dark Side of the Moon on the top 100 list?

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good album.

Aside from album sales, what other objective measures of a bands "goodness" are there?

Influence on later musicians? Critical reception?

I didn't say there were any. I made a lengthy post earlier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12016382&postcount=34)... emphasis on the last sentence.

In any case, I think music is much more complicated than "good bands sell lots and obscure bands are obscure because they're shit".
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 20:46
You can't easily measure (or even verify) influence, and even if one could, a terrible musician could easily influence other terrible musicians.
And I wouldn't trust a music critic to determine the wetness of water, let alone musical quality.

I never said they were good objective sources....
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 20:50
In any case, I think music is much more complicated than "good bands sell lots and obscure bands are obscure because they're shit".

Agreed. The Velvet Underground, The Stooges and The Pixies were all relatively obscure in their day but now are hugely influential and are world famous.
Unabashed Greed
30-11-2006, 20:51
Agreed. The Velvet Underground, The Stooges and The Pixies were all relatively obscure in their day but now are hugely influential and are world famous.

Don't forget Nick Cave
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 20:52
Don't forget Nick Cave

Or Nick Drake :D (I forgot to add them to my list as it was only a quick list off of the top of my head)
Caber Toss
30-11-2006, 21:20
I think partly it's because my father always listened to Pink Floyd, and I grew up listening to it.

I like the depth the music has, and the nonstandard techniques. The lyrics tend to be utterly depressing, I admit, but not all of it. Depends on the album.

Totally agree. The lyrics are very deep and philisophical. Makes you think. Roger Waters has an amazing way with words. Listening to DSOTM, WYWH, and The Wall makes you realize how brilliant these concept albums are. Meddle was awesome as well, despite not being a concept album.
Morganatron
30-11-2006, 21:26
Totally agree. The lyrics are very deep and philisophical. Makes you think. Roger Waters has an amazing way with words. Listening to DSOTM, WYWH, and The Wall makes you realize how brilliant these concept albums are. Meddle was awesome as well, despite not being a concept album.

I've found myself listening to The Final Cut more and more lately, particularly "When the Tigers Broke Free." That song just gives me the chills.
Harlesburg
01-12-2006, 12:23
Absolutely. I turn on "Wish You Were Here", close my eyes and it's almost a picture perfect memory.
The album or the song?
Nothing beats asong thought up when one is on the dunny.








Pink Floyd just makes me feel good.
Kinda Sensible people
01-12-2006, 15:18
Don't really like them myself.

I mean, they were fine musicians, and fairly clever, but I find their music unabsorbing and their lyrics meaningless. They strike me as being without any energy in their music. Sure, some of it's very pretty, but for me, it's like listening to Classical-era music: Nice sound, no soul.
Zilam
01-12-2006, 16:30
They suck?
Jello Biafra
01-12-2006, 16:32
I like "Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2." That's about it.Yeah, same here. I don't hate most of their other stuff, aside from the really really boring songs.

Hehe shit man it's purely a mary jane thingI was wondering that, myself, though a couple of posters say that they don't use drugs but still like Pink Floyd.

No, but a band or artist that appeals to fans consistently over an entire body of work should. For instance, how were sales of Kajagoogoo's second album? Or Jeff Healy, or Dexy's Midnight Runners, etc.Oh, so then *NSync is objectively good?
Nermid
01-12-2006, 18:51
I love Floyd. Between Hey You, Wish You Were Here, Have a Cigar, and ABitW pt 3, they've got a monopoly on my list of favorite songs. Their musicality is subtle and expressive, and their lyrics are deeply emotional, without being emo. Quality stuff.

And no, I don't do drugs.