NationStates Jolt Archive

How about it? I think it would be a splendid move. Spiritual and worldly power have been too divided for too long.

(poll coming)

No!

How about it? I think it would be a splendid move. Spiritual and worldly power have been too divided for too long.

(poll coming)

Yes! They could take over the UN and the UN could move to Antartica. :eek:

Why would the Vatican want to give up being its own country? Besides under Catholic dogma the Pope is the bishiop of Rome and now that it has rules about bishiops having to live in their diocese, it can't really pull an Avigon(sp).

If we can get rid of those freeloading mouth breathers in the UN in exchange I'm all for it.

Mind you, they have to bring over the buildings and the art collections and whatnot as well.

No!

Italian are you? Mustn't be selfish, you've had it for quite a while and not made much use of it lately.

Yes, because USA is mostly Catholics. :rolleyes:

Umm, no?

Italian are you? Mustn't be selfish, you've had it for quite a while and not made much use of it lately.I'm Trinidadian-Angolan actually. :p

Won't we see a decrease in tourists?

If anywhere, the Vacitan should move to Los Angeles.

Won't we see a decrease in tourists?

Who will?

YES!

Keep the Pope out of Europe!

:sigh: Leave it to NSG to ignore that an idea has been shown not to work.

:sigh: Leave it to NSG to ignore that an idea has been shown not to work.

Did the Vatican originally come from New York?

Yes! They could take over the UN and the UN could move to Antartica. :eek:

I was going to vote "no" until I read your post. I could handle a trade like that. and I'm voting yes now. :D

Yes! They could take over the UN and the UN could move to Antartica. :eek:

That's the best idea I've heard in a loooooooooong time.

Did the Vatican originally come from New York?

No, but the Pope is by defenition the bishiop of Rome thats what supposedly makes him Peter's succesor justifying papal supremacy, and since it is now required that a bishiop live in his diocese The Pope as the Bishiop of Rome can't live in New York.

let;s just dispose of the vatican instead.

I have now found a friendly and humane solution to the strained relations between the US and Islam.:)

Mekka must be moved to the US. That way, all the fundamental unruly muslims will pray in the direction of the US, view it as a holy place, and all shall live happily ever after.

No, but the Pope is by defenition the bishiop of Rome thats what supposedly makes him Peter's succesor justifying papal supremacy, and since it is now required that a bishiop live in his diocese The Pope as the Bishiop of Rome can't live in New York.

That is just a legal issue. Redefine living, as concerns bishops, and problem is solved.

I have now found a friendly and humane solution to the strained relations between the US and Islam.:)

Mekka must be moved to the US. That way, all the fundamental unruly muslims will pray in the direction of the US, view it as a holy place, and all shall live happily ever after.

It should go to Flint Michigan. I hear they are in need of urban renewal.

No, but the Pope is by defenition the bishiop of Rome thats what supposedly makes him Peter's succesor justifying papal supremacy, and since it is now required that a bishiop live in his diocese The Pope as the Bishiop of Rome can't live in New York.

He could keep a pied a terre on the via corso.

That is just a legal issue. Redefine living, as concerns bishops, and problem is solved.That depends on the way the councel that set that down; if it is Tradition, which can't be changed or tradition, which can.

It should go to Flint Michigan. I hear they are in need of urban renewal.

How about Hell, Michigan?

nah, just strap rockets too it and fire it at the sun.

Why should the Vatican be moved to New York?
Why should it not stay in Vatican City, where it's been for hundreds of years?

Why does everyone seem to think everything should revolve around the US? I'm an American, a New Yorker, and a Roman Catholic, and even *I* think the idea is stupid and offensive.

I have now found a friendly and humane solution to the strained relations between the US and Islam.:)

Mekka must be moved to the US. That way, all the fundamental unruly muslims will pray in the direction of the US, view it as a holy place, and all shall live happily ever after.

Are you trying to be offensive, or are you just lucky that way?

Why should Mecca be moved from its historic home?

No!

Aw I was beaten. :(

C'mon now, New York is better than that.

There's no logic whatsoever in moving it to New York, as that city is not predominantly Catholic, and the Vatican would not be particularly welcomed.

If the Vatican did ever have to move, Rio de Janeiro would be the best new location.

Why should the Vatican be moved to New York?
Why should it not stay in Vatican City, where it's been for hundreds of years?

Why does everyone seem to think everything should revolve around the US? I'm an American, a New Yorker, and a Roman Catholic, and even *I* think the idea is stupid and offensive.

Uh, ditto, on everything (though I'm from Upstate).

Why should the Vatican be moved to New York?
Why should it not stay in Vatican City, where it's been for hundreds of years?

Why does everyone seem to think everything should revolve around the US? I'm an American, a New Yorker, and a Roman Catholic, and even *I* think the idea is stupid and offensive.

I imagine if it moved, it would still be in Vatican City.

Anyway, that's another cool reason to have it in NYC. North America doesn't have any micro-nations. We should have at least one. They are cool.

Possibly we could also relocate San Marino to Rhode Island.

I'd be interested to know how the idea that the Vatican should be moved germinated in Quarantin's mind in the first place...

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I'd be interested to know how the idea that the Vatican should be moved germinated in Quarantin's mind in the first place...
It all started with thinking about how leaders through history have been much more efficient at domination if they had a god on their side, as an extra justification for their exercise of control.

From there on, the shipment of Mecca and the Vatican to the US seemed the inevitable power move.

Consider the alternative; moving the US to the Vatican or Mecca seems much less convenient, and liable to cause tensions between the two religions.

How about it? I think it would be a splendid move. Spiritual and worldly power have been too divided for too long.

(poll coming)

That would almost "prove" to some that the Papacy was the antichrist that revelation talked about.

Are you trying to be offensive, or are you just lucky that way?

Why should Mecca be moved from its historic home?

For shits and giggles!

Are you trying to be offensive, or are you just lucky that way?

Why should Mecca be moved from its historic home?

Are you implying that I am offensive, or am I misreading somehow?

Why should it stay?

How about it? I think it would be a splendid move. Spiritual and worldly power have been too divided for too long.And? What worldly power is there in New York? Hillary?

It all started with thinking about how leaders through history have been much more efficient at domination if they had a god on their side, as an extra justification for their exercise of control.

From there on, the shipment of Mecca and the Vatican to the US seemed the inevitable power move.

Consider the alternative; moving the US to the Vatican or Mecca seems much less convenient, and liable to cause tensions between the two religions.
So, um, you want to move the Vatican to the USA to give the US government more power and domination through religious means? No thanks.

And? What worldly power is there in New York? Hillary?

Why, the worldly USian power of course. New York being part of US and everything. There isn't enough space on Capitol Hill, is there?

Yes, by all means, take Ratzinger if you want him. Let's rid our great Italy from the Pope!

So, um, you want to move the Vatican to the USA to give the US government more power and domination through religious means? No thanks.

But...think of the stability and potential for a thousand-year-Empire!

Especially if the UN was incorporated into the package and used as a uniting force rather than a dividing one, to add some feel of legitimacy.

Congratulations on getting the picture though.;)

Why, the worldly USian power of course. New York being part of US and everything. There isn't enough space on Capitol Hill, is there?

I'm curious as to why you picked New York and not Washington, DC.

I'm curious as to why you picked New York and not Washington, DC.

It feels more like the capital of the world.

It feels more like the capital of the world.

Only in the minds of those who live there.

Only in the minds of those who live there.

I don't.

Possibly we could also relocate San Marino to Rhode Island.

No way. San Marino stays here. So we can brag about having here in Europe the oldest still-standing democracy of the world!

No way. San Marino stays here. So we can brag about having here in Europe the oldest still-standing democracy of the world!

Yeah but we still have the oldest parliament so meh.

Why should Mecca be moved from its historic home?

Well, if we're moving the Vatican, why not cover all the bases? While we're at it, Jerusalem becomes a suburb of Chicago, the Punjab region will be packed up and moved to Seattle, and all the holy Shinto shrines are off to San Francisco.

That or maybe we need to take all the most prized world religious leaders, round them up, and move them to a satellite orbiting Earth. We give them a nice amount of luxury and the ability to communicate back home to us, and we tell them to reach agreements. If it works, we have peace; if it doesn't, the leadership will smite the jerks with a laser beam from the satellite. If it works well, we will do the same with all the politicians and maniacal dictators.

Edited to add: If the political leaders can't come to an agreement, we'll just leave them up there with circus peanuts and Mr. Pibb until they go insane. If it does work...well, let's just say we don't have to worry about that. The circus peanut and Mr. Pibb manufacturers will make a killing.

Well, if we're moving the Vatican, why not cover all the bases? While we're at it, Jerusalem becomes a suburb of Chicago, the Punjab region will be packed up and moved to Seattle, and all the holy Shinto shrines are off to San Francisco.

That or maybe we need to take all the most prized world religious leaders, round them up, and move them to a satellite orbiting Earth. We give them a nice amount of luxury and the ability to communicate back home to us, and we tell them to reach agreements. If it works, we have peace; if it doesn't, the leadership will smite the jerks with a laser beam from the satellite. If it works well, we will do the same with all the politicians and maniacal dictators.

Edited to add: If the political leaders can't come to an agreement, we'll just leave them up there with circus peanuts and Mr. Pibb until they go insane. If it does work...well, let's just say we don't have to worry about that. The circus peanut and Mr. Pibb manufacturers will make a killing.
Who will rule in the meantime?

Isn't the Vatican a city state?