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Fanboys aside, can someone explain these (http://www.apple.com/getamac/) ads?

The "Sales Pitch" one claims Macs are "selling like hotcakes." What? Its not like the ads have done much (If I am wrong, I just want a link).

"Gift Exchange" makes all PC users out to be C++ geeks. And all it takes is clicks to staple a book together?

"Meant for Work" gets a point for the emo shot (:D ) , but I dont get how a ten year old works better with a Mac. What, it's dumbed down for ten year olds?

Also, since when are Widgets next years technology?

Sorry, these anger me for being attacking and portraying PC users as geeks without lives!

Sorry, these anger me for being attacking and portraying PC users as geeks without lives!

oh?

If anything, those commercials have made me prefer PCs to MACs even more than I already did.

You should get a kick out of this:
http://shittymacad.ytmnd.com/

If anything, those commercials have made me prefer PCs to MACs even more than I already did.


Same here, to me it adds to that despicable aura of pretentiousness that Mac already has.

I've never used a mac so whats so good about it besides the fact that it looks nice?

Why do people say "selling like hotcakes"

When's the last time you bought a hotcake?

It's those friggin corporations portraying us as hotcake addicts that drive the sales of the Mac.

I say enough!

#include <ostream>
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
std::cout << "I can not watch the ads because I'm running Linux," << std::endl;
std::cout << "and they offer quicktime only for Windows and Mac OS." << std::endl;

std::cout<< "**cough**" << std::endl;
return 0;
}

For the love of God, never watch all 3 of those in a row.

Meh it's kinda cute. Macs have serious gained ground in the comp industry and not just for people who edit music or videos. I plan to get a Mac for my next computer Too bad they couldn't use this as an ad (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geuruPAW1F82AAd4JXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE4cWMzN3A4BGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANNQVAwM DdfOTU-/SIG=121vtn55u/EXP=1164858127/**http%3a//www.mightymcpilgrim.com/films/brokemac).

They should make one about gaming.

I've never used a mac so whats so good about it besides the fact that it looks nice?

Unix (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/) > MS Windows.

In about every possible way.

Unix (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/) > MS Windows.

In about every possible way.

It's the most stable platform I've ever used, though I'm only a casual user. But I'll never go back, that's for certain.

Unix (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/) > MS Windows.

In about every possible way.

Don't they have a new program that allows the mac to fully utilize windows so that it can run windows only applications?

#include <ostream>
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
std::cout << "I can not watch the ads because I'm running Linux," << std::endl;
std::cout << "and they offer quicktime only for Windows and Mac OS." << std::endl;

std::cout<< "**cough**" << std::endl;
return 0;
}


I'm not sure how anyone can use Linux. It isn't compatable with anything. You can't use Windows or Mac software.

www.mightymcpilgrim.com/films/brokemac

I've never used a mac so whats so good about it besides the fact that it looks nice?

general awesomeitude. also, significantly less sucky than the main competition.

It isn't compatable with anything.

Like what? I surf the web, read e-mail, PDFs, Flash, process words, make spreadsheets and presentations, rip music CDs, make MP3, watch DVDs, and do all sorts of other things like everyone else.

Only more secure, more stable, and totally for free.


You can't use Windows or Mac software.


Again, why is this a problem?

I'm suprised no one has posted the TrueNuff (http://tv.truenuff.com/mac/) spoof ads yet.

Like what? I surf the web, read e-mail, PDFs, Flash, process words, make spreadsheets and presentations, rip music CDs, make MP3, watch DVDs, and do all sorts of other things like everyone else.

Only more secure, more stable, and totally for free.



Again, why is this a problem?

I guess it's ok if that's all your gonna do. I did think about buying a $249 computer with Linspire from Micro Center but I love playing Sims so I decided to wait.

BTW is Yahoo software compatiable for Linux?

I completely agree. I don't care what the purpose of the ads are, and I don't really have anything against mac users, but the ads are COMPLETE BS! There is nothing they say in the ads that isn't a lie. Yes, macs were made for photos, video editing, and stuff like that, but PCs do that just as well. Putting i in front of a program name doesn't make it better. Windows Movie Maker is just as easy to use as iFilm, etc.

Sorry for the rant, but it's just pissed me off that Mac gets away with literal false advertising.

I guess it's ok if that's all your gonna do. I did think about buying a $249 computer with Linspire from Micro Center but I love playing Sims so I decided to wait.

BTW is Yahoo software compatiable for Linux?

No. But you do not need it to be. Linux has GAIM which supports Yahoo, among others.

#include <ostream>
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
std::cout << "I can not watch the ads because I'm running Linux," << std::endl;
std::cout << "and they offer quicktime only for Windows and Mac OS." << std::endl;

std::cout<< "**cough**" << std::endl;
return 0;
}


#include <ostream>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main()
{
std::cout << "I am smart enough to realize that you can add the flash player plug in to the Linux version of FF" << std::endl;
std::cout << "and you can rig Mplayer to handle most quicktime formats including their .mov" << std::endl;
std::cout << "as well as the quicktime 4 linux http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/Quicktime-for-Linux-257.shtml" << std::endl;

return 0;

}




(Intresting I never had to declare standard outs before ... but its been awhile for c++ though I did remember standard namespacing )

No. But you do not need it to be. Linux has GAIM which supports Yahoo, among others.

Hehe it also has had cool transparency forever in the windows version.

I'm not sure how anyone can use Linux. It isn't compatable with anything. You can't use Windows or Mac software.

www.mightymcpilgrim.com/films/brokemac

Unless you know ... you want to be productive in the tech world. Then it becomes an invaluable tool

Or if you want to ... well serve anything

Support legacy hardware

Software develop in a host of languages

Automate

Or any of the other tasks I do on a daily basis

I guess it's ok if that's all your gonna do. I did think about buying a $249 computer with Linspire from Micro Center but I love playing Sims so I decided to wait.

BTW is Yahoo software compatiable for Linux?

Sims was a tough one, but they have limited support with cedega depending on which version you want.

Next release is expected to support it

#include <ostream>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main()
{
std::cout << "I am smart enough to realize that you can add the flash player plug in to the Linux version of FF" << std::endl;
std::cout << "and you can rig Mplayer to handle most quicktime formats including their .mov" << std::endl;
std::cout << "as well as the quicktime 4 linux http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/Quicktime-for-Linux-257.shtml" << std::endl;

return 0;

}



#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

my @lines_in_response = ("Meh. Not only am I not smart,",
"but that's too much work. :D ",
"Besides, I just saw the Gift ad on TV anyway. ",
"Twas actually kinda funny.");

foreach (@lines_in_response)
{
print "$_";
}

print "\n";

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

my @lines_in_response = ("Meh. Not only am I not smart,",
"but that's too much work. :D ",
"Besides, I just saw the Gift ad on TV anyway. ",
"Twas actually kinda funny.");

foreach (@lines_in_response)
{
print "$_";
}

print "\n";




#!/bin/bash

echo "Well perl aint my baby and I dont really really feel like draging up other languages right now while trying to work"

echo "But you are right lots of work but its worth it if you are building up a normal use desktop"

echo " which to be honest I dont normaly do anyways as I usualy use them for servers"

#!/bin/bash

echo "Well perl aint my baby and I dont really really feel like draging up other languages right now while trying to work"

echo "But you are right lots of work but its worth it if you are building up a normal use desktop"

echo " which to be honest I dont normaly do anyways as I usualy use them for servers"


I hate the code tags as it is always quick to toss in scroll bars.

Sims was a tough one, but they have limited support with cedega depending on which version you want.

Next release is expected to support it

Apparantly ATI open sourced some code that allows easy conversion from Direct X to Open GL.

Apparantly ATI open sourced some code that allows easy conversion from Direct X to Open GL.

That would be cool I have not been able to look into that at all latly ... I am too busy sunk into vista in prep for our release next month

That would be cool I have not been able to look into that at all latly ... I am too busy sunk into vista in prep for our release next month

Release of what?

Release of what?

Vista Ultimate Corporate site copy expected to come to us in middle december

**** Commodore 64 Basic V2 ****
64k Ram System 38911 Bytes Free
Ready.
10 Goto 50
20 End
30 Print "and Mac Looks Nice"
40 Goto 90
50 Print "linux Is Too Much Work"
60 Goto 110
70 Print "windows Is Adequate, No More"
80 Goto 30
90 Print "but Doesn't Have The Same Roughed Feeling"
100 Goto 20
110 Print "if You Want To Use It Fully"
120 Goto 70

(Intresting I never had to declare standard outs before ... but its been awhile for c++ though I did remember standard namespacing )

You do not have to since you did declare that you were using the std namespace in the beginning

Vista Ultimate Corporate site copy expected to come to us in middle december
I see. I'm dodging Vista completely.

It phails at managing my RAM properly and is a hog.

I see. I'm dodging Vista completely.

It phails at managing my RAM properly and is a hog.

Its doing alright on mine right now

But my users are going to have it so I got to know what I am doing

Its doing alright on mine right now

But my users are going to have it so I got to know what I am doing

Vista (like XP) detects 1024MiB of RAM, Linux, 1003.8MiB.

I'm not sure how anyone can use Linux. It isn't compatable with anything. You can't use Windows or Mac software.

www.mightymcpilgrim.com/films/brokemac
Well take Ubuntu for instance, the OP is free and comes with basic office software and so far as I know the office tool files are compatable with non-linux machines. I believe you can also pick up (free on the internet) software that allows you to use most windows software on Ubuntu's OP.

If you know what you are doing, you can order Ubuntu, (free of charge - disks will be mailed out to you), download the OP directly from a single CD, grab just about any kind of software you want free on the net (including a compiler), and code your own programs, or adapt someone else's non-propriety code. Unlike windows with Ubuntu you are fully permitted to alter the base code of the OP and any software that is included with it or free on the net with a non-propriety license.

Further with fewer people running the software, most virus/syp-ware are not made for your machine, so your computer is more secure. A whole community constantly are reviewing, seeking to improve and creating patches and improvements. Since the source code is freely open and available, bugs and security flaws tend to be spotted and patches supplied much more quickly than with propriety software. Ubuntu, despite being free, offers support for their OP's for minimum periods of time, at the end of which new OP systems have already been released, so if you want support you can upgrade...for free.

The bigger mystery is probably 'why dont more people use it?', rather than 'why do they?'

*finally arsed to watch ads*
Hillarious!

After having to install a driver on my brothers computer just to download photos off a camera, and then fucking around for freakin' ever trying to figure out what it did with those photos or how the whole thing functioned-then just plugging in a camera to my Mac and having it do exactly what I wanted with no fuss whatsoever, I'm not even looking back.

Windows users are tweakers because they have to be tweakers just to get their computer to do shit. Fuck that, I want to do shit, not tweak my computer. It's Mac for me from here on out.

#include <ostream>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main()
{
std::cout << "I am smart enough to realize that you can add the flash player plug in to the Linux version of FF" << std::endl;
std::cout << "and you can rig Mplayer to handle most quicktime formats including their .mov" << std::endl;
std::cout << "as well as the quicktime 4 linux http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/Quicktime-for-Linux-257.shtml" << std::endl;

return 0;

}




(Intresting I never had to declare standard outs before ... but its been awhile for c++ though I did remember standard namespacing )

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
printf("But why would you want to?\n");
printf("Not having Quicktime is a /good/ thing.\n");
return 0;
}

(I never liked cout.)

After having to install a driver on my brothers computer just to download photos off a camera, and then fucking around for freakin' ever trying to figure out what it did with those photos or how the whole thing functioned-then just plugging in a camera to my Mac and having it do exactly what I wanted with no fuss whatsoever, I'm not even looking back.

Odd, I've never had to install any drivers to download photos from a camera. I just plug the thing in, go into My Computer where there's a letter assigned to the camera, navigate to the folder with the photos and copy away.

Problem is you are just not familiar with the Windows way to do things, that doesn't mean Windows is inherently wrong. If it's any consolation I do get lost when I have to use a Mac.

I've never used a mac so whats so good about it besides the fact that it looks nice?

It's got widgets, those are handy. And the expose windows feature and the dock are very useful. Plus, it can work with some MS Windows software. Unlike other systems... (shifty eyes)

(cough)Unixsystems(cough)

Fanboys aside, can someone explain these (http://www.apple.com/getamac/) ads?

The "Sales Pitch" one claims Macs are "selling like hotcakes." What? Its not like the ads have done much (If I am wrong, I just want a link).

"Gift Exchange" makes all PC users out to be C++ geeks. And all it takes is clicks to staple a book together?

"Meant for Work" gets a point for the emo shot (:D ) , but I dont get how a ten year old works better with a Mac. What, it's dumbed down for ten year olds?

Also, since when are Widgets next years technology?

Sorry, these anger me for being attacking and portraying PC users as geeks without lives!

That's why I'm switching to Linux. Copyleft all the way.

I like these mac ads.

http://www.ifilm.com/search?query=mac+ad+parody

I'm suprised no one has posted the TrueNuff (http://tv.truenuff.com/mac/) spoof ads yet.

I love Networking and Upgrades. :D

A kid in my school took ten minutes to explain the gift giving commercial down to the detail of what they were wearing, and then took a minute to explain his explaining. I have hated commercials for a while, now I loathe them.

I love Networking and Upgrades. :D

Lol I like the security one ... specially bout BSD ... ITS NOT LINUX!

Lol I like the security one ... specially bout BSD ... ITS NOT LINUX!

When did dipshit get here? :D

I like these mac ads.

http://www.ifilm.com/search?query=mac+ad+parody

Lol Pretty funny dude. Man it makes Linux users look like total geeks.

I guess nobody saw the one I posted. I thought it was pretty funny. Obcourse it does imply that all mac users are gay. Remember to quit mac press: Control+Open apple+Escape

They should make one about gaming.

Lol for the mac?

Don't they have a new program that allows the mac to fully utilize windows so that it can run windows only applications?

So basically, they're turning a Mac into a PC.

After having to install a driver on my brothers computer just to download photos off a camera, and then fucking around for freakin' ever trying to figure out what it did with those photos or how the whole thing functioned-then just plugging in a camera to my Mac and having it do exactly what I wanted with no fuss whatsoever, I'm not even looking back.

Windows users are tweakers because they have to be tweakers just to get their computer to do shit. Fuck that, I want to do shit, not tweak my computer. It's Mac for me from here on out.

Maybe your just too much of a noob?

So basically, they're turning a Mac into a PC.

Yeah ... except you don't have hardware flexibility

And you pay a lot for it

Yeah ... except you don't have hardware flexibility

And you pay a lot for it

but it's both better looking and allows you to use a better operating system the rest of the time.

but it's both better looking and allows you to use a better operating system the rest of the time.

Better looking? No, Macs look gay (read: gay as in really, really stupid, and not homosexual). Custom-built, DIY PCs look fantastic. Brushed aluminum cases with see-through glass, neon lighting, and silent fans... Water cooling, too!

And what do you mean by "better"? I don't consider an operating system to be very good when it takes most of the fucking resources my system has.

Better looking? No, Macs look gay (read: gay as in really, really stupid, and not homosexual). Custom-built, DIY PCs look fantastic. Brushed aluminum cases with see-through glass, neon lighting, and silent fans... Water cooling, too!
Most people find that looks overly done, like the cars from the Fast and the Furious.
And what do you mean by "better"? I don't consider an operating system to be very good when it takes most of the fucking resources my system has.

Wait until you see the next version of Windows.

Most people find that looks overly done, like the cars from the Fast and the Furious.


Wait until you see the next version of Windows.

Hey RC2 aint THAT bad

You know I am a *nix fan but it aint horrid I use about 2
% idel

but it's both better looking and allows you to use a better operating system the rest of the time.

pfft define better. Personaly I am a FreeBSD fan

You know the kernal mac stold

Now that is better when you apply it correctly

Most people find that looks overly done, like the cars from the Fast and the Furious.

I love it how you people use the "most people", "many people", and "people have said" to somehow strengthen your bullshit.

Hilarious.

You know the kernal mac stold

How is something that is given away freely (even for use in proprietary projects) be "stolen?"

Maybe your just too much of a noob?

I used Microsoft since DOS. Once I used Finder, no looking back.

How is something that is given away freely (even for use in proprietary projects) be "stolen?"

Ehhh they were borderline on some of the mods but still legal

But either way ...

I love it how you people use the "most people", "many people", and "people have said" to somehow strengthen your bullshit.


One need only examine the marketplace. In just the last month or so I help purchase a computer; I don't recall seeing neon lights and water-cooling systems in any of the mass/consumer market systems offered by the Dells and HPs and such. I assume that if such components were wanted by a significant proportion of the consuming population, said companies would be tripping over themselves to offer them. Since they aren't, it seems empirically safe to conclude that "most people" are happy with relatively "gay"-looking computers, even if they don't light up, blink, or leak water.

Simple observation demonstrates that Posi's statement is probably a reasonably safe conclusion.

They should make one about gaming.

Of course they won't, because it would go something like this:

PC guy: I can play Crysis on Ultra High setting with 8xAA and HDR lighting

Mac guy: On a good day, I can sometimes play WoW or Quake 2.

One need only examine the marketplace. In just the last month or so I help purchase a computer; I don't recall seeing neon lights and water-cooling systems in any of the mass/consumer market systems offered by the Dells and HPs and such. I assume that if such components were wanted by a significant proportion of the consuming population, said companies would be tripping over themselves to offer them. Since they aren't, it seems empirically safe to conclude that "most people" are happy with relatively "gay"-looking computers, even if they don't light up, blink, or leak water.

Simple observation demonstrates that Posi's statement is probably a reasonably safe conclusion.

They're not offered by mass producers because they're expensive, as the companies that manufacture them don't make very many parts per year. Thus the price.

I didn't say that people weren't happy with the way their computers looked. I was speaking strictly about PC enthusiasts, as that's the context the argument was currently in. And yes, to PC enthusiasts, Macs and mass-produced PCs look very lame. Most people just don't care, because they use computers for a few things and that's it.

But go on, put words in my mouth and try to make me look like a fucking horse's twat. In the end, though, it's quite the opposite.

They're not offered by mass producers because they're expensive, as the companies that manufacture them don't make very many parts per year. Thus the price.


Supply is only half the equation. The other half is demand, the lack thereof being the reason why the supply would be so low, and the prices so high.


I was speaking strictly about PC enthusiasts


I saw a disagreement over what "most people" like, but OK.


But go on, put words in my mouth and try to make me look like a fucking horse's twat. In the end, though, it's quite the opposite.


Of course, my sole intention is to execute some mysterious vendetta against a complete stranger over an ultimately inconsequential topic of discussion. I honestly can't think of anything better to do. I'll probably lose sleep over it, too :D :rolleyes:

Of course they won't, because it would go something like this:

PC guy: I can play Crysis on Ultra High setting with 8xAA and HDR lighting

Mac guy: On a good day, I can sometimes play WoW or Quake 2.

If OS X can run Oregon Trail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_%28computer_game%29), I'm totally sold.

If OS X can run Oregon Trail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_%28computer_game%29), I'm totally sold.

when i moved out to idaho, i found out that the state oregon isn't actually pronounced the same way that we say the name of that game. of course, i also found out that spokane doesn't really believe it has an e on the end of it, moscow is actually mas coe, if you add an s to the front of prague you get sprayguh, and coeur d'alene is really core duh lane. fuckers can't talk proper out here (says the guy from a town called des plaines, illinois, in which some of those s's are pronounced).

If OS X can run Oregon Trail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_%28computer_game%29), I'm totally sold.

Got it running in wine in debian AND in vista

Dammit because of this thread i've just spent over a grand on a Mac within the last 10 minutes

I love it how you people use the "most people", "many people", and "people have said" to somehow strengthen your bullshit.

Hilarious.
Fine then, everyone with the slightest amount of artistic sensibility or taste recognizes that neon lights make anything (no matter how orgasmic it appeared before) look tacky as all hell.
The only good way for a computer to look is a scratched-up and mysteriously stained case with at least one dent that you can point to and say "Oh, yeah, that's from when my roommate/sibling/girlfriend through a chair at me."

Same here, to me it adds to that despicable aura of pretentiousness that Mac already has.
I don't object to the pretention - I just think the ads make the PC look like a more useful tool.

The whole point of teh ads is to show how well confiugured the Mac is to do a bunch of fun stuff right out of the box. And assuming I want to do exactly those things exactly as Apple anticipated and nothing else, that might be appealing. But I don't see why anyone would think that.

Plus, by portraying the PC as a big nerd, they're inadvertantly marketing PCs to nerds.

I find the ads amusing, but entirely ineffective.

They're both computers.
They both function the same way.
One just looks different than the other.
Big whoop.

They're both computers.
They both function the same way.
One just looks different than the other.
Big whoop.

Actually, they don't, which is a big whoop. Apple hardware is as is, so once you've got one, it's there. PC hardware can be changed.

I don't object to the pretention - I just think the ads make the PC look like a more useful tool.

The whole point of teh ads is to show how well confiugured the Mac is to do a bunch of fun stuff right out of the box. And assuming I want to do exactly those things exactly as Apple anticipated and nothing else, that might be appealing. But I don't see why anyone would think that.

Plus, by portraying the PC as a big nerd, they're inadvertantly marketing PCs to nerds.

I find the ads amusing, but entirely ineffective.

None of the Apple features really make me care; home movies? I never do that shit. I GAME. Which is why PC will always be my god.

None of the Apple features really make me care; home movies? I never do that shit. I GAME. Which is why PC will always be my god.
That goes without saying.

I am also a gamer, and thus I have no incentive to buy a Mac, either.

Actually, they don't, which is a big whoop. Apple hardware is as is, so once you've got one, it's there. PC hardware can be changed.

Well, yes, theres that. But like, I meant in terms of actually doing stuff on the computers. The things I can do on a Mac can just be done the same, if not better on a PC. Thats what I currently use, and it hasn't disappointed me one bit.

That goes without saying.

I am also a gamer, and thus I have no incentive to buy a Mac, either.

I'm going to buy a GeForce 8800GTS soon. I'd like to see a Mac match THAT.

It's got widgets, those are handy. And the expose windows feature and the dock are very useful. Plus, it can work with some MS Windows software. Unlike other systems... (shifty eyes)

(cough)Unixsystems(cough)

You were saying? (http://widgets.yahoo.com/)

They're both computers.
They both function the same way.
One just looks different than the other.
Big whoop.

Mac also uses a different kernel than the most common PC operating system (guess which one), and another file system too I believe.

Some of those ads are contradictory. Like talking about security. OSX will become less and less secure as it gains market ground, but also because it is the most similar OS to windows yet. It's using similar components, similar languages and so forth. OSX and XP have root accounts which unless password protected and make your system pretty vunerable - most people never change the root user password both on OSX and XP. The same goes for spyware. Even if an Apple is more secure, the user will still have to have the common sense to protect themselves from phishing and the like.

The magnetic power cord sounds like a dangerous innovation. The power cable sounds like it will fall off if there's a passing breeze.

Some of the ads are undermine the shallowness of Apples focus on asthetics.

The out-of-the-box ad further undermines the security issue for Apples. Do they ever update OSX? And won't you need to install Office from a CD? And didn't Microsoft get in trouble for bundling too much software with XP?

Oddly enough I'd rather play on XP and work on OSX because most of the games I like only work on windows and so won't be present to distract me.

And didn't Microsoft get in trouble for bundling too much software with XP?
Because Microsoft was deemed to be abusing their monopoly power, something Apple doesn't have and thus can't abuse.

I love it how you people use the "most people", "many people", and "people have said" to somehow strengthen your bullshit.

Hilarious.

OK, I'll rephrase that: everyone I know would be embrassed to own such a gaudy computer.

I'm going to buy a GeForce 8800GTS soon. I'd like to see a Mac match THAT.

I'll be getting the GTX on a new computer. *raspberry*

I'll be getting the GTX on a new computer. *raspberry*

Well, if you're American, it's cheaper. The GTX SHOULD be, by conversion rate standards, about AUD800. It's actually AUD1200.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=18632

Well, if you're American, it's cheaper. The GTX SHOULD be, by conversion rate standards, about AUD800. It's actually AUD1200.
So import it yourself.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=18632

LOL

My PC just had a slowdown cause I forgot to shut it down. So when I restarted it it couldn't do anything. So i tried the old CTRL+ALT+DELETE and tried to shut down my computer and it took forever. Thankfully I finally got it to shut down. My PC seems to take so much friggin Ram to do simple stupid stuff. Plus the Yahoo Messenger/Toolbar seems to take forever to load up.

So import it yourself.

Neh, too much trouble. Besides, I'd have to use my mom's credit card, and she'd never let me spend that much.

Apple: Cool enough for your granny
Silver surfers biggest Mac owners
Published: Thursday 30 November 2006

In its latest batch of adverts, Apple painted the Mac as the young, cool face of desktop computing. But now research has found it's the silver surfers who have a yen for Cupertino's goods - while the kids are opting for cheap Windows machines.

According to a report from industry watchers MetaFacts, nearly half of Mac owners are 55 and older - that's almost double the share for average home-PC users.
http://hardware.silicon.com/desktops/0,39024645,39164472,00.htm

Personally, I'll take Apple seriously again when they regain 10% or so of the computer market, which they haven't had in something like 15 years.

Use whatever is best for the job. I run XP, Solaris and Red Hat myself, depending on what I'm doing. But there's no reason to fire up Civ 4 in Red Hat and no reason to run Oracle on Windows, either. ;) IMO, there is no such thing as a business worthy Mac server.

Bah, this is the way I go and the ONLY way to go:

http://www.afjv.com/press0506/050630_alienware_geforce780.jpg
Mine hasnt failed me yet.

23209xzz--=zz Hard Drive Has Been Hacked 2032=-=='']]]/
Can Not Continue 2309222==-' Shut Down Initiated 2-3=3-2=[]';'p\'\[]

I've never used a mac so whats so good about it besides the fact that it looks nice?

I don't know, but occasionally I DO have to use a Mac (if you work in a public school, chances are you have to use a Mac) and I find it very user non-friendly. It drives me insane!

Bah, this is the way I go and the ONLY way to go:

http://www.afjv.com/press0506/050630_alienware_geforce780.jpg
Mine hasnt failed me yet.

*starts to shake*

Alienware! I want, I want! Gi'me Gi'me Gi'me!:eek:

Of course they won't, because it would go something like this:

PC guy: I can play Crysis on Ultra High setting with 8xAA and HDR lighting

Mac guy: On a good day, I can sometimes play WoW or Quake 2.

AAAhahahaha! Yeah, tell me about it! I will probably need to get a new desktop when I receive my preordered copy of Spore, and it sure as hell won't be a Mac.

Alienware?! Just buy a Chieftec tower and build it yourself, peoples :P You'll spend less than half for that overpriced hunk of junk.

LOL

My PC just had a slowdown cause I forgot to shut it down. So when I restarted it it couldn't do anything. So i tried the old CTRL+ALT+DELETE and tried to shut down my computer and it took forever. Thankfully I finally got it to shut down. My PC seems to take so much friggin Ram to do simple stupid stuff. Plus the Yahoo Messenger/Toolbar seems to take forever to load up.

sounds like you need to defrag

I can't see any of these fun videos because I'm on my boyfriend's laptop running linux and no matter how many times I install Flash IT NEVER WORKS.

A Mac these days is just a PC with a version of Linux (called Mac OS X).

There are some hardware differences between a PC and Mac, but all the main components which are not customised are just standard PC parts. The Mac laptops are kinda unique - but they can run Windows XP which means that are just ASUS laptops (ASUSTek make Apple's laptops).

And all it takes is clicks to staple a book together?



All you have to do is select some photos and e-mai them to appe and they'll make a book out of them, I've made 2 already.

*starts to shake*

Alienware! I want, I want! Gi'me Gi'me Gi'me!:eek:
LOL....they're good, but relax, they're not worth dying over.


*starts stroke Alienware and rubs penis against the cold, smooth exterier of the Alienware*

.....Or are they......


Alienware?! Just buy a Chieftec tower and build it yourself, peoples :P You'll spend less than half for that overpriced hunk of junk.
Yeah, but since I'm not a nerd and dont know how to build a computer, I'd rather have PROS do it, so my computer wont break when I turn it on.

And its hardly a hunk of junk.

snip

Of course. Anybody with an ounce of computer literacy is too advanced for a Mac.

Bah, this is the way I go and the ONLY way to go:

http://www.afjv.com/press0506/050630_alienware_geforce780.jpg
Mine hasnt failed me yet.

It's almost as nooby as a Mac. A real man builds his own.

It's almost as nooby as a Mac. A real man builds his own.
Incorrect, a "real" man wouldn't be caught dead knowing how to assemble something that didn't have the potential (if used improperly) to kill a family of four.

Incorrect, a "real" man wouldn't be caught dead knowing how to assemble something that didn't have the potential (if used improperly) to kill a family of four.

A computer can kill a family of four, if you know how to hack a bank and empty their accounts.

Alienware?! Just buy a Chieftec tower and build it yourself, peoples :P You'll spend less than half for that overpriced hunk of junk.

My first three cars combined didn't cost as much as an alienware machine! :eek:

A Mac these days is just a PC with a version of Linux (called Mac OS X).


Incorrect. Mac OS X is built on Apple Darwin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Darwin), which in turn is decended from the FreeBSD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD) line (among other things, but not Linux). The BSD licensing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_license) is far more friendly to the mixing of commercial/proprietary elements with open source elements (i.e. Mac OS X), where as trying to do so with the GNU license (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License) (i.e. Linux) would be a pain-in-the-ass of mindnumbingly massive proportions, just asking for trouble.

sounds like you need to defrag

I can't see any of these fun videos because I'm on my boyfriend's laptop running linux and no matter how many times I install Flash IT NEVER WORKS.

I got flash Beta 9 running on 64 bit Linux.

<.<
>.>

Bah, this is the way I go and the ONLY way to go:

http://www.afjv.com/press0506/050630_alienware_geforce780.jpg
Mine hasnt failed me yet.

23209xzz--=zz Hard Drive Has Been Hacked 2032=-=='']]]/
Can Not Continue 2309222==-' Shut Down Initiated 2-3=3-2=[]';'p\'\[]

I want to over-pay to alienware about as much as I want to over pay to MAC.

There is not a system the build that I can not do for cheaper

Of course. Anybody with an ounce of computer literacy is too advanced for a Mac.
Yeah lets get you in CLI and see about computer literacy :rolleyes:

Im sorry I am not a mac fan, I find they are over priced and I dont care for the setup. But saying that somehow other users are nativly more advanced

Even in the *nix world that is not nessisarily true anymore

AS much as I love ubuntu it is brought about a bunch of casual users that DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!

That is fine not everyone has to know, but there are some pretty computer illiterate people in every OS now

LOL....they're good, but relax, they're not worth dying over.


*starts stroke Alienware and rubs penis against the cold, smooth exterier of the Alienware*

.....Or are they......



Yeah, but since I'm not a nerd and dont know how to build a computer, I'd rather have PROS do it, so my computer wont break when I turn it on.

And its hardly a hunk of junk.

Its not hard, the hard part is getting the right hardware ordered, after that it is tab A into slot B

Its not hard, the hard part is getting the right hardware ordered, after that it is tab A into slot B

Only fits one way. *nod*

A Mac these days is just a PC with a version of Linux (called Mac OS X).

There are some hardware differences between a PC and Mac, but all the main components which are not customised are just standard PC parts. The Mac laptops are kinda unique - but they can run Windows XP which means that are just ASUS laptops (ASUSTek make Apple's laptops).

OSX is NOT linux, Its BSD.

Only fits one way. *nod*

They are so well documented, that its not an issue. Though there are tips and tricks on making it easier, there always are but usualy you can get it done either way

They are so well documented, that its not an issue. Though there are tips and tricks on making it easier, there always are but usualy you can get it done either way

Ah, the accual construction isn't the problem for me, its the working out what to buy. I just can't work out whats the best and what "good" is, when deciding what to put into one.

Ah, the accual construction isn't the problem for me, its the working out what to buy. I just can't work out whats the best and what "good" is, when deciding what to put into one.

That is the trick to building a good vs building a great machine ... anyone can put togeather a random or a "high end" machine if they throw money at it

The trick is figuring out the hardware that best supports your goals as a whole without over spending

Someone that is GOOD can shave a few hundred wasted dollars off a machine sometimes ...

Ah, the accual construction isn't the problem for me, its the working out what to buy. I just can't work out whats the best and what "good" is, when deciding what to put into one.

If you can put what you wan into words, most forums are capable of picking the hardware for you.

It's almost as nooby as a Mac. A real man builds his own.
Its ALMOST as nooby as being an Australian German nationalist.:D
My first three cars combined didn't cost as much as an alienware machine! :eek:
My Alienware cost me about $2,300 or so.....how much did your cars cost?!:confused:

I want to over-pay to alienware about as much as I want to over pay to MAC.

There is not a system the build that I can not do for cheaper
I can't even think about building a computer, lol.

after that it is tab A into slot B
Thats what she said.
Only fits one way. *nod*
Thats what she said.
Though there are tips and tricks on making it easier, there always are but usualy you can get it done either way
Thats what she said.

My Alienware cost me about $2,300 or so.....how much did your cars cost?!:confused:

My first car was $100 in 1989, it was a 1979 Chevy Malibu that I had to fix up. My second car was a 1984 Cutlass Supreme in 1993, it was $1600. The third was a Buick that I had for a very short time, it was $500.

...ok, if one factors in inflation it'd be a different story, but I was also thinking more along this: http://www.alienware.com/alx_pages/main_alx.aspx , which is much more than the cars, even with inflation.

Still think this is the greatest Ad of all time: http://www.uriahcarpenter.info/1984.html

I would love to know who was the woman and who played Big Brother.

Edit: Basically it's saying IBM=Big Brother Totalitairianism, Apple=Liberty& Freedom

Don't they have a new program that allows the mac to fully utilize windows so that it can run windows only applications?

Boot camp. No one has any excuse to use anything but a mac now.

Boot camp. No one has any excuse to use anything but a mac now.

Yes they do: drivers and lack of hardware not outrageously priced. And if you don't need to use the Mac side, why buy a Mac at all?

My first car was $100 in 1989, it was a 1979 Chevy Malibu that I had to fix up. My second car was a 1984 Cutlass Supreme in 1993, it was $1600. The third was a Buick that I had for a very short time, it was $500.

Bah! I once got a perfectly working five-year old computer for free! Try to do that with a car!

Still think this is the greatest Ad of all time: http://www.uriahcarpenter.info/1984.html

I would love to know who was the woman and who played Big Brother.

Edit: Basically it's saying IBM=Big Brother Totalitairianism, Apple=Liberty& Freedom

The ultimate irony is that IBM comps can be customised and modified, while Macs have to be the way Apple says.

Boot camp. No one has any excuse to use anything but a mac now.

*clears throat*

PC guy: I can play Crysis on Ultra High setting with 8xAA and HDR lighting.

Mac guy: ON A GOOD DAY, I CAN SOMETIMES PLAY WOW OR QUAKE 2.

Thats what she said.

Thats what she said.

Thats what she said.

If you say "That's what she said" one more time, I swear I am going to jam this graphics card up your ass.

I am going to jam this graphics card up your ass.
*cough*
That's what she said?


*flees*

Boot camp. No one has any excuse to use anything but a mac now.

Sure I do

Price

Upgrade ability


If the stupid fucking thing is almost a PC anyways what is the BENIFIT to it? I dont particularly care for OSX (Dont care for windows either but have to use it some to support my users and game without cedega)

*cough*
That's what she said?


*flees*

*looks for excuse not to run*

I said if The Atlantian Islands says it, not you.

The ultimate irony is that IBM comps can be customised and modified, while Macs have to be the way Apple says.

I think it was refering to that IBM had a very rigid corporate structure. In the early 1980's IBM was PC. The corporate structure was extremly conservative of mostly white males who sold PCs to other companies. If you look at the Ad the marching workers are white males. The hammer thrower is a woman in excercise clothes (Note T-shirt and red shoes) who represents Mac, A modern compant selling computers for personal home use.

See: http://www.duke.edu/~tlove/mac.htm

BTW the Hammer thrower is Anja Major (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anya_Major)

I'm not sure how anyone can use Linux. It isn't compatable with anything. You can't use Windows or Mac software.

www.mightymcpilgrim.com/films/brokemac

Linux supports more hardware than any other operating system. It doesn't stop supporting old hardware just because some executives up top want you to buy a whole new computer either. The fact that it doesn't support one or two shitty proprietary video protocols is neither here nor there.

I can get a Bluetooth dongle, any Bluetooth dongle, and not even bother installing drivers for it. Plug in, and it works. Can you?

I can search for and install new programs (and keep them updated) with an easy-to-use package management system (yay apt/Adept). Can you?

Granted I can't just buy any old software off the shelves and have it run (though a lot of Windows stuff will run in Linux under WINE), but after getting to use OpenOffice for free, why would I want to pay £368 to use Microsoft Office? FireFox shows Internet Explorer up to be the crap that it is, and I don't need to keep in contact with Central Command who wants to install spyware on my system just to check that I'm "not a pirate" (Windows Genuine Advantage. Some advantage, eh?).

Sony's rootkit malware (yes, Sony has made a bit of software that takes over your machine without your knowledge) won't run under Linux (though the term 'rootkit' is originally a *nix term), and neither will the vast majority of other virii, spyware and malware. Sometimes not being the most widely-used OS on the planet is an advantage.

Unreal Tournament 2004? Doom 3? All of these things run under Linux, and both ATI and Nvidia have Linux drivers available for their cards (though I really wish they would make them open source).

Linux not being compatible with anything? That's a hoot.

Hehe it also has had cool transparency forever in the windows version.

I believe that KDE has a 3D Desktop option that you can use to move around the multiple desktops with. Haven't used it yet, does anyone know if it's actually useful?

I believe that KDE has a 3D Desktop option that you can use to move around the multiple desktops with. Haven't used it yet, does anyone know if it's actually useful?

I have with gnome

I assume you mean xgl/compiz?

*looks for excuse not to run*

I said if The Atlantian Islands says it, not you.
http://idea.yoll.net/other/fighterjets/f15-5_large.jpg
*Flys overhead, swoops down over Posi while breaking the sound barrier and yells*

"That's what she said!"

#!/bin/bash

echo "Well perl aint my baby and I dont really really feel like draging up other languages right now while trying to work"

echo "But you are right lots of work but its worth it if you are building up a normal use desktop"

echo " which to be honest I dont normaly do anyways as I usualy use them for servers"



class RubyMessage
def initialize
@message = "Hm, is this a good excuse to show off?\n\r"
@message << "If so I might as well stick my two pence in here."
end
def output
return @message
end
end

aMessage = RubyMessage.new
puts aMessage.output
puts "and without vowels: #{aMessage.output.gsub(/[aeiou]/, '*')}"

My first car was $100 in 1989, it was a 1979 Chevy Malibu that I had to fix up. My second car was a 1984 Cutlass Supreme in 1993, it was $1600. The third was a Buick that I had for a very short time, it was $500.

Bah! I once got a perfectly working five-year old computer for free! Try to do that with a car!

Ah! But the five year old car actually has value. A five year old computer doesn't.

I have with gnome

I assume you mean xgl/compiz?

Actually what I was thinking of is for GNOME (silly me). It's not xgl/compiz though. Look for the package "3ddesktop" in the universe/utils repository.

3D-Desktop is an OpenGL program for switching virtual desktops in a seamless 3-dimensional manner. The current desktop is mapped into a fullscreen 3D environment where you may choose other screens. Several different visualization modes are available. A window manager compatible with the GNOME pager standard is required.
The transition from working desktop to fullscreen 3D environment is seamless: when the pager activates you see your current desktop appear to zoom out to a point in space where you can see your other virtual desktops allowing you to select another.
The program is rather memory-hungry and it is CPU intensive, but it's accessible from the command line, which makes it perfect for show floors and impressing your non-UN*X-using friends.

Boot camp. No one has any excuse to use anything but a mac now.

Ok, so why should I pay x3 the price and have to SHELL to use the programs I need? Try selling that to the business world and see how far it gets you.

Still think this is the greatest Ad of all time: http://www.uriahcarpenter.info/1984.html

I would love to know who was the woman and who played Big Brother.

Edit: Basically it's saying IBM=Big Brother Totalitairianism, Apple=Liberty& Freedom

I reckon that the "freedom" they speak of is ironic, given it's from a company (apple) that has stranded it's users twice? (Read: applications not being backwards compatible, vs. Windows which will run anything since DOS 1.0?) :D

I reckon that the "freedom" they speak of is ironic, given it's from a company (apple) that has stranded it's users twice? (Read: applications not being backwards compatible, vs. Windows which will run anything since DOS 1.0?) :D

Not to mention that to build a mac, don't you still need to be licensed by Apple?

Whereas anyone can build an IBM/PC compatible computer, due to IBM messing up when they invented the PC and forgetting to include a reverse-engineering clause in the copyright agreement. That, I feel, is mostly the reason the PC has been so successful; nobody owns it. Not even Microsoft (for now).

That said, the Mac did carve a niche out in the graphics/DTP industry and it still shines in that sector, even if it is somewhat expensive. I don't expect it to ever be as widespread as the PC though, at least not until it becomes as free and easy to make and distribute Mac-compatibles as it is to make and distribute PC-compatibles. I want a computer, not a games console with a keyboard.

Actually what I was thinking of is for GNOME (silly me). It's not xgl/compiz though. Look for the package "3ddesktop" in the universe/utils repository.

Ok cool ... have not tried it

I reckon that the "freedom" they speak of is ironic, given it's from a company (apple) that has stranded it's users twice? (Read: applications not being backwards compatible, vs. Windows which will run anything since DOS 1.0?) :D

Somehow I doubt that many DOS 1.0 apps will still run under a Windows NT kernel. I had to jump through some funky hoops just to get Battlezone (Win95 app) to run under Windows 2000. Impulse Tracker used to be perfect under DOS/Win95/98, but as soon as we went to an NT kernel, it only barely works.

That said, the x86 architecture underneath the OS is still largely compatible, right down to the old 8088 stuff. That is until Microsoft realises their plans with Palladium. Then you don't run shit unless it's approved, or you find a way to beat the system. It'll be good for censoring "unapproved" texts as well.

Joy!

I guess it's ok if that's all your gonna do. I did think about buying a $249 computer with Linspire from Micro Center but I love playing Sims so I decided to wait.

BTW is Yahoo software compatiable for Linux?

Kopete for the win.

Somehow I doubt that many DOS 1.0 apps will still run under a Windows NT kernel. I had to jump through some funky hoops just to get Battlezone (Win95 app) to run under Windows 2000. Impulse Tracker used to be perfect under DOS/Win95/98, but as soon as we went to an NT kernel, it only barely works.

That said, the x86 architecture underneath the OS is still largely compatible, right down to the old 8088 stuff. That is until Microsoft realises their plans with Palladium. Then you don't run shit unless it's approved, or you find a way to beat the system. It'll be good for censoring "unapproved" texts as well.

Joy!

2000 ain't XP (which does the job much easier). Even so, at least you COULD run it in W2K. Try that with almost any Mac app on OS 9 or 10 and see what happens. I still recall at the product launch the presenter running EDLIN as an example. I've run Harvard Graphics 3.0, which was enough of a nostalgia trip. :)

Palladium? Oh, I don't buy the fear mongering so much. DRM, just like copy protection on floppy disks, is going to be trivial to break and so probably won't see the light of day. Lord knows they've stripped enough OTHER features out of Vista. Grumble. :(

...or leak water.

Just to be pedantic, most liquid cooling systems use ethylene glycol, not water. Basically antifreeze.

They also have leakproof valves and such which means they don't.. erm.. leak. Even if you rip a tube out. I know this, sadly, from experience.

2000 ain't XP (which does the job much easier).

I could argue with that. I prefer 2000 to XP (less graphical tackiness, things generally run smoother). They also run on the same kernel, albeit a very slightly different version of it (Windows NT, I'm sure you've heard of it).

It's also just as tricky to get Battlezone to work on XP as it is to get it to run in 2000.

Palladium? Oh, I don't buy the fear mongering so much. DRM, just like copy protection on floppy disks, is going to be trivial to break and so probably won't see the light of day. Lord knows they've stripped enough OTHER features out of Vista. Grumble. :(

...also, given Microsoft's antics in certain less-than-liberal countries, I wouldn't put it past them. Palladium certainly has the capacity for some horrendous limitations of freedom, and it would be foolish to assume that it won't be used that way. Sorry, but if I make a program, I want to run it without obtaining permission and paying for it first. Ditto making a text that the government of the day may not like.

I think it was refering to that IBM had a very rigid corporate structure. In the early 1980's IBM was PC. The corporate structure was extremly conservative of mostly white males who sold PCs to other companies. If you look at the Ad the marching workers are white males. The hammer thrower is a woman in excercise clothes (Note T-shirt and red shoes) who represents Mac, A modern compant selling computers for personal home use.

And... who really cares about the structure of the company selling the product? I just care about the product.

http://idea.yoll.net/other/fighterjets/f15-5_large.jpg
*Flys overhead, swoops down over Posi while breaking the sound barrier and yells*

"That's what she said!"

*jams a GeForce 8800 up The Atlantian Island's ass*

I bet Fass envies you now. Or not, seeing as the sharp edges of the card have probably caused your rectum to start bleeding.

I reckon that the "freedom" they speak of is ironic, given it's from a company (apple) that has stranded it's users twice? (Read: applications not being backwards compatible, vs. Windows which will run anything since DOS 1.0?) :D

Besides the possible game, why would you want to run such an out of date app?

Linux supports more hardware than any other operating system. Linux not being compatible with anything? That's a hoot.

Ok then why don't more people use it? I would love to find an alternarive to Windows. I'm running XP and it's still slow as crap. You know as a green I would love to have a system not controlled by a coporate monster.

And... who really cares about the structure of the company selling the product? I just care about the product.

Neither do I. I use to work for Earthlink and thier corporate structure was way different than Mindspring's. I'm sure Apple is as corporate as Microsoft now.

Unix (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/) > MS Windows.

In about every possible way.

Linux runs on Intel boxes... Why would I need Mac OSX?

Linux runs on Intel boxes... Why would I need Mac OSX?

Linux runs on the PPC procs as well I have been running a cluster of g4 boxes for over a year

That being said why pay for the hardware?

Besides the possible game, why would you want to run such an out of date app?

Maybe if you want to keep your 1982 budgets made with VisiCalc. You know, stored in 5.25" floppies.

Ah! But the five year old car actually has value. A five year old computer doesn't.

Yeah, but you're comparing how expensive a new computer is when compared to an old car. But if you compare an old computer to an old car computers are usually cheaper. An old computer may not be able to run Oblivion, but it will happily serve as firewall, mail server, control the lights and heat in the house, become an arcade machine, etc.

I could argue with that. I prefer 2000 to XP (less graphical tackiness, things generally run smoother). They also run on the same kernel, albeit a very slightly different version of it (Windows NT, I'm sure you've heard of it).

It's also just as tricky to get Battlezone to work on XP as it is to get it to run in 2000.

Depends on the hardware and what you're running.
Windows NT? I'm sure I'm certified in it. :D

True.

Besides the possible game, why would you want to run such an out of date app?

There's actually a lot of proprietary data out there. Especially in the financial and medical fields: I had one client that used a Win 3.11 app that simply doesn't convert to any other useful format. Another had an accounting package that needed a DOS client and only ran on a Novell server on IPX.

Ok then why don't more people use it? I would love to find an alternarive to Windows. I'm running XP and it's still slow as crap. You know as a green I would love to have a system not controlled by a coporate monster.


Probably inertia. 98% of people run Windows, so 98% of developers will make software for Windows before other operating systems. It's like trying to stop an oil tanker once up to speed. It's also a very different OS to Windows. Don't run it expecting to find a drive C: for example.

I would suggest you download and burn a LiveDVD of Ubuntu or Kubuntu and give it a whirl. It'll load things a lot slower due to running directly from a DVD, and the package management system (a great way for installing and managing applications) probably won't function, but it should give you a taste of the X/GNOME/KDE interface and Linux's unique way of organising things (ie: everything, including devices, is accessible through the filesystem).

Also, I figured I'd mention that Linux also runs on the widest possible range of platforms, to a greater or lesser degree. x86? No problem. Mac? No problem. SPARC? No problem. Apple iPod (yes, really)? No problem. Nintendo DS (yes, really)? No problem.

It seems like there isn't so much as a pocket calculator that hasn't had a Linux made for it.